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NET Tobacco Pairings?
submitted almost 8 years ago by axxegrinder

Hi All - I've got a nice NET@10% flavoring from /u/chemicalburnvictim. Good stuff. I've searched for pairings to add a little flavor to add to a similar NET (Nightcap) I want to try to make myself. Not a tobacco blend, but something like the following list. I know there are others, but these flavors really appeal to me.

Peach

Pineapple

Banana

Orange

Can anyone recommend which flavors for the above, and what % I'd be looking to start with to put on top of the 10% NET mix?

Thanks!

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by Mister_Regealalmost 8 years ago

Peach; FA white peach for an authentic peach "fuzziness" that mixes well with other peaches and reduces the candy-like taste other peaches have a notch. I've tried Flavor Revolution's peach and still haven't nailed it down, but FA white peach is a less sweet and dryer peach compared to Hangsen or TFA Juicy peach. Start at 1-2% and adjust upwards depending on how potent you want it.

Pineapple: Inawera's pineapple at 1.5% should be good, but you can ramp it up to 2 or 2.5% if you want a more intense flavor. Think canned pinapple.

Banana: do you want a candy banana or a creamy banana? I actually enjoy hangsen's banana but it's a bit on the ripe side. INW shisha banana is good, but a bit dryer and with the taste of banana runts to some.

TFA DX banana cream (free of BA) is the least "runty" banana I've tried so far, but it also doesn't seem super intense in mixes... so I'm still playing around with it and Bananas Foster (smoother, but a bit... cooked banana flavor?) to get a good balance & percentage nailed down.

Unfortunately, I do not have any orange flavors so cannot really offer up any good advice in that department.

I'm a big fan of pistachio and caramel in tobaccos, so I can't offer much advice in regards to blending all of those flavors you're wanting to use (I presume in the same mix) other than that I tend to use 0.15-0.5% FA passionfruit to bring tropical fruit flavors together.

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by axxegrinderalmost 8 years ago

Thank you very much, this is what I was looking for. I don't intend to mix them all together, perhaps at some point but I'm new to mixing and am really hoping to add a bit to a good NET flavor base.
To start I'll just be doing things like "pineapple tobacco", "peach tobacco" and so on to see how that works out.

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by WorstAdviceROCalmost 8 years ago

Medicine Flower Nectarine! Amazing with everything, especially the NETs I've tried it with... Especially good with a bit of spiced tobacco.

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by axxegrinderalmost 8 years ago

Thanks, I'll add that to my list, appreciate it!

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by axxegrinderalmost 8 years ago

Thank you; at what % are you mixing that into your NET?

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by WorstAdviceROCalmost 8 years ago

0.5%-1% is all that's needed. Goes great with drier tobaccos, also with Ry4's.

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by rabidnzalmost 8 years ago

Does net have the same issues as tea or coffee extractions, and the lipids associated with them? Or is that too miniscule to be a worry, like diacetyl?

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by Mister_Regealalmost 8 years ago

I would speculate there's a very low amount of plant lipids from the tobacco, but there are definitely natural sugars (and some added in the case of cavendish and other cased pipe tobaccos) and also the possibility of TSNA's... that said, some non-NET tobacco flavors tested positive for higher levels of TSNAs (presumably because of the tobacco varietals used in the production of the flavors) which was shown in some of the studies a few years back.

I believe it was Dr. Farsalinos who headed said studies, but it's been a while since I read them.

I vaped exclusively NET for four or five years straight, I didn't have issues health-wise and the biggest problem was coil gunk.

I use a half micron filter for my NETs. It's probably overkill.

WTA is probably "safer" as it is stripped of the organic material with a solvent wash, but it also doesn't have the same flavor a good NET does and requires serious chemistry knowledge and access to a lab (or paying a fair amount of money for WTA base)... though it does help some people enough to justify the cost.

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by thelateoctoberalmost 8 years ago

Is there somewhere you.would suggest I look if I'm interested in making my own NETs? Are there concentrates available that use them?

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by vApe_Escapealmost 8 years agoTobacconist

Great guides here:https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forums/liquid-extraction-from-tobacco.489/

Also if you want concentrates I'd recommend Naturally-extracted-tobacco.com and realtobaccoextracts.com both sell premixed and extracts.

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by ChemicalBurnVictimalmost 8 years agoresident tobacco expert

/r/Diytobaccoejuice has some good info on making them. Stixx Mixx if you would rather buy an NET concentrate.

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