A mixing tip to help reduce errors.

submitted almost 8 years ago by lNTERLINKEDWTF is a "Terpene?"

Hi guys, it's my first time making a post here so i'm sorry if this belongs somewhere else.

I thought I'd share a tip that I carried over from when I used to be a cocktail bartender. We were taught to always put the booze in first when making drinks, for a few reasons. Firstly, it's the most expensive thing in the drink, and if you mispour, it will be a costly mistake. If you pour 50ml of bourbon into your mixing glass instead of 25ml, it's fairly easy to just double all of the booze you are adding, then split the mix in half and keep one half for the next time someone orders that drink.

I treat my flavours like I did spirits in cocktails. If you always add flavour first, you can easily recover from a fuck up and won't necessarily have to make a whole double batch to steep right now, you can just keep it for the next time you make this recipe. Adding flavour to your already measured PG/VG/nic makes this more of a headache, and you might end up with a huge batch of fruit based vape that dulls quickly and not end up using it all.

I would also recommend mixing anything you are going to have steeping for a long time at 0 nic, as it's really easy to just add some nic as and when you need it.

Sorry if this is obvious to everyone, but I thought new mixers might get something out of it.

Comments

11 points

by BlazeDemBeatzalmost 8 years agoMentholatier

I always do nic, flavor, PG, then VG last. Do VG last because it's what finishes off the bottle. I can basically eyeball it, even though I still use the scale.

2 points

by Moukloupalmost 8 years ago

Doing this ever since I mispoured like 5 times too much flavour, great tip anyway I appreaciate it dude thanks!

2 points

by Urano_Metriaalmost 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I still cringe at the time I needed 2% TPA VBIC and accidentally added 2g instead. Ended up like 9%, totally unrecoverable lmao.

Protip: Never mix while trying to beat the timer on the microwave, you'll fuck up.

2 points

by leapinglabratsalmost 8 years ago

It's worth pointing out. Also start with anything that is hard to measure or dispense. My biggest pet peeve is euro droppers, I've had a few disasters with them, so I always start there. Second comes anything where one drop is perfect but a second drop would ruin everything.

1 points

by tha_dankalmost 8 years ago

Those droppers look like a nightmare to use.

1 points

by leapinglabratsalmost 8 years ago

Sometimes they are indeed, depends on the viscosity of the concentrate. If it's too thin you might as well be trying to pour from a bucket. Too thick and it's like watching paint dry. If there was a great alternative for glass bottles that didn't involve pipettes, I'd burn them all ceremoniously.

2 points

by 3423553453almost 8 years ago

> I would also recommend mixing anything you are going to have steeping for a long time at 0 nic, as it's really easy to just add some nic as and when you need it.

Conversely, I always pre-mix all my nicotine in vg at 3mg to slow down degradation, the longer it stays concentrated, the more it is exposed to oxygen. Then I sometimes eyeball it at 50/50 during mixing with plain vg so I end up with a ~1.4mg mix, nicotine precision on that scale isn't important IMO.

I'd rather be slightly imprecise with nicotine than mix with oxidized nicotine.

edit: then/than

2 points

by paperskulkalmost 8 years ago

How do you make sure sure your nic is evenly mixed into the vg before using it as if it's 3mg all the way through? I'm new and am wary of nicotine in vg not being as evenly mixed/distributed as pg, but will use so little (mixing for only myself) that I don't want my nic to oxidize/expire.

3 points

by 3423553453almost 8 years ago

I just shake it like a crazy person then I try not to worry about it.

1 points

by Urano_Metriaalmost 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

It should also somewhat homogenize over time since you're storing it in VG at 3mg over time and not vaping it right away. Regardless, I always shake whatever I mix like a spaz until light won't even pass through it.

2 points

by Asifchalmost 8 years ago

How much effect have the oxidation have on nic. Like for 100 mg nic if its left for a few months roughly what will be the final mg. I am asking because I have got about 100 ml of 100 mg nic and i vape at about 1 to 2 mg max so this will last me for quite some time.

2 points

by 3423553453almost 8 years ago

It changes color, smells/tastes stronger and weakens. I don't think anyone has a solid scale of how potency relates to oxidation but the bad taste will hit you before the lack of potency I'm pretty sure.

2 points

by leapinglabratsalmost 8 years ago

It doesn't get weaker, it just gets more and more harsh on your throat.

1 points

by lNTERLINKEDalmost 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

That's a good tip that i'd never thought of, thanks.

2 points

by OutOfBounds11almost 8 years agoFrugivore

Would you really double a mispour and have half of it sit around to serve to the next poor sap that ordered one? That's terrible.

1 points

by lNTERLINKEDalmost 8 years agoI did not ask for this flair.

Yeah it's pretty common when making cocktails. If there is only booze in the shaker, what's wrong with it, exactly? This is done before adding ice etc so it's literally just a few shots of spirit sitting in a glass.

1 points

by simpleone234almost 8 years agoMixologist

All my batches are usually 100grams, so it's easy to calculate %'s off the top of my head with no calculator. Start with flavors first, then I add PG until the scale reads 30grams(30%) and then nic 3mg, then the rest is filled with VG until it hits 100grams on the scale. It's super fast and like you said, if you mess up the flavors, you can adjust for it on the fly.

1 points

by TheDeadlyPretzelalmost 8 years ago

Huh I have always done this, Always found it to be the only real logical way

1 points

by Asifchalmost 8 years ago

Yes. Thanks. That's what I have noticed that it has more harh throat hit and slightly changes the color to pinkish.

1 points

by kindgroundalmost 8 years ago

Always nic first. It's about the only ingredient that is dangerous or not good if overpoured. That and I buy expensive fucking nic.

Then flavors. Then pg. Then vg.

-5 points

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