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This week's flavor is: Persimmon!
How did that get to be the FOTW?
It was requested. If you're not interested in this FOTW, please take this opportunity and comment to suggest one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).
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WTF is permisson and why does it look like every 5yr old's Sun drawing when you cut it open? Lol no really...wtf is permisson?
Edit: Caught my dyslexia-esque response. I'm gonna own it!
per·mis·sion
pərˈmiSHən
noun
consent; authorization.
"they had entered the country without permission"
synonyms: authorization, consent, leave, authority, sanction, license, dispensation, assent, acquiescence, agreement, approval, seal/stamp of approval, approbation, endorsement, blessing, imprimatur, clearance, allowance, tolerance, sufferance, empowerment;
I am lucky and do not get a horrible throat hit from FLV Persimmon, and I really enjoy it. 1% solo gives a deep, fruity, slightly fleshy and sweet taste. It's great. It is a very strong flavor, easy to overtake a recipe with it. Apple has been my favorite thing to pair it with so far. When I smelled this, I just knew I needed to sft it. I loved it. I think I went through 30mL of it solo.
Persimmon Spice has such a small almost baked/charred Persimmon to it that I almost cant seem to find it. When I push it up higher in %'s to see if I can taste it, the spices are way too forward and are not pleasant. I think this flavor is more going to be used for its blend of other flavors and spices as an additive. I am trying to work it into a few types of recipes, but it is proving hard to work with for me. Notes of pepper, ginger, apple, and i get something similar to a rhubarb type taste. I don't get much else, but it makes it rough to work with.
I have NF Persimmon on order, should be here today, no later than tomorrow. I will have that tested as well, especially since these are the only 3 Persimmon flavors that I know of.
I'm working on a couple of Persimmon recipes right now. Part of the issue is getting the good flavor pairings. There are quite a few. I actually posted my personal thoughts here under the notes section. A test recipe I am working with right now using Persimmon Spice.
Fall and Love
- FLV - Apple Cider @ .4%
- FLV - Persimmon @ .2%
- FW - Yellow Cake @ 2%
- FLV - Pumpkin Spice @ .25%
I have enjoyed it and others have as well. I tried using pumpkin bread but it just has an offnote to it that I can't untaste; unlucky that way.
Have you tried pairing it with honey? I think it might be a good combo because some ripe persimmons have a honey like note to them
I have not yet, but I would say you are 100% accurate there. I think honey would be a very good pairing with it.
Yeah that's the main thing about actual persimmons I think, and might be necessary if you wanted to try to authenticize FLV Persimmon instead of just enjoying it for what it is. They have a unique base flavor and texture sort of like a bunch of stone fruits gangbanged a tomato but what really stands out is how honey-like their sweetness is.
Do they grow wild where you live? IF SO, DO NOT PICK THEM BEFORE THE FIRST FROST. The astringency of those suckers is off the charts and you will probably get the green apple quick-step even from just a lil taste. It's a marvel of nature how much persimmons change between not quite ripe and perfectly ripe.
Ooooooo that relish recipe looks N I C E
I'm the one who requested it. Its probably going to be a lame FOTW but it's a new topic at least and hopefully someone can chime in on good uses for them so I can convince myself to buy FLV Persimmon or FLV Persimmon Spice which are the only persimmon concentrates I'm aware of.
There's also NF Persimmon.
I think the trouble with FLV Persimmon is that while it smells like heaven, some people get the absolute worst throat hit from it. Others don't though? The trick might me finding out how many have enjoyed it versus how many are finding it unbelievably harsh.
FLV Persimmon Spice as best I can tell doesn't actually have anything to do with persimmon, they just needed a name for a spice blend and drew that one out of a hat.
I hope someone has a recipe for persimmon-flavored juice built out of other concentrates.
FLV Persimmon review by ConcreteRiver
FLV Persimmon at eLiquid Recipes
Persimmon sounds very tasty, if you can tolerate the throat hit.
I've been playing with FLV persimmon. My son (whose palate is much better than mine) likes it, says it really tastes like persimmon. I've been using it at 0.5% but recently tried upping it to 1% and quite like it. I mix it with a bit of FA pear and some custards to smooth it out. Roughly 2% pear and 1% each of Cap custard, TFA Bavarian cream and FA fresh cream (and a touch of sweetener to taste).
Is it rough on your throat without the creams?
Aprimmom
-Tpa - Apricot -3.00%
-Flv - Persimmon -1.00%
These two play together extremely well together. Very flavorful with the apricot note a bit more forward. Only thing is, persimmon has a kick to it, so I tend to lower my nic from 3mg to 1.5 - 2mg to ease that throat hit some. Overall, very tasty.