Percentage Used: 9%
Equipment Used: Troll 2 RDA with a single Kanthal .2 ohm Bird's Nest coil (Kernel 24GA*3+26GA= Wrapped 32GA) at 27W, full cotton wick.
PG/VG: 30/70
Manufacturer's Description: Bakers Touch is a full flavor danish style dessert: a cinnamon streusel yellow cake a la mode. Suggested Mix Percentage: 9%
Steep Time: 25 Days. I did try it at 1 week, but it shows a significant difference with the longer steep. Although good, it is worth waiting for, the flavor really deepens.
Aroma: Pastry, cake, cream, cinnamon, icing.
Flavor Description: This is a rich and full bodied danish pastry. Authentic flavor, buttery densely packed layers of pastry that is topped with heavy cream and drizzled with cinnamon sugar. Most prominant flavor up front is buttery pastry. I'm not getting a light and flakey mouth feel, more of a heavy cake. Next I notice the cream, it's very much like their vanilla ice cream. No egginess like a custard, yet is has that creamy slightly cooked pudding like consistency usually found in cream cheese danishes. It has the flavor of a light vanilla cream though. The cinnamon is a mild bakery cinnamon, fairly light, and comes through more on the exhale along with a hint of a slightly darker baking vanilla, more of a low note than the vanilla cream. Sweet cream butter and sugar are well balanced in with the cinnamon, very much like the streusel they refer to in their description. Moderately sweet overall, I'm also getting a sweet powdered sugar type icing finish. Every once in a while I get a hint of a super light maple. It's very faint and seems to come and go. I'm wondering if there is some brown sugar in with the cinnamon?
Off Flavors: Faint maple every once in a while, nothing offensive.
Throat Hit: 2/10
Pairings: Almost any fleshy fruit would be good here, turning it into a fruit and cream danish. It will also fit in very well to strengthen bakery notes, especially in cinnamon rolls or anywhere you would normally use Capella Cinnamon Danish Swirl. Great to add sweetness and body to custards, and tobaccos. Also would be very good with nuts, specifically almonds and pecans.
Notes: This is a very complex flavor, and makes an excellent single flavor for a fast and easy mix, or to have something good to vape while still learning about mixing. I enjoyed it at the recommended 9%, I wouldn't go over 10 tops. I'm going to start around 1-5% as an accent. It's much more complex than Capella's Cinnamon Danish, and I can see using this a lot.
Thanks for the review, always wanted more expert analysis on LB's flavors. I hate to go off topic, but other then binding to VG why would a single flavor need 7 day steep ?
I'm by no means an expert, but hope it helps. As far as steeping, I'm no scientist and there are many many debates on the forum about steeping if you do a search. Everyone has their own beliefs and preferences, and I'm of the category...whatever tastes best for you ;)
This is not exactly a single flavor such as TPA Strawberry. Our Kind Reviewer describes it as combining yellow cake, cinnamon, butter, cream, vanilla and (possibly) brown sugar flavors, so it's more of a one shot kinda deal.
Different flavors, different molecules, so it seems there would be differences in the amount of time these molecules would take to 'bind' to the VG and PG in the mix. If this is actually the way it works, then basically you're waiting for the slowest bits to catch up and complete the melding process.
It really just depends on the flavor. I have plenty of single flavor mixes that need an extended steep especially tobaccos. Nonna's and AM4A get a lot better with a step even when mixed alone IMO. Hell, I know several people who wont touch some of their single flavor mixes for 6 months.
Speaking of super-steeped single flavor mixes, I have a 7 month-old bottle of Gold Ducat (original formula) that is significantly more complex and tasty than batches which steeped for only a month or so.
Maybe I'll revisit the bottles of Am4A which were set aside because I tired of the flavor (when mixed at 4%, anyway).
These notes are great, just posting for posterity.
Disclaimer: I didn't pay for these, they were sent to me by Liquid Barn. Shout out to Liquid Barn
Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 15 wrap 26g 3mm Nifethal 70 coils @.17 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.
Testing: Liquid Barn Baker's Touch, 5 and 9% @ 1g/ml, 60/40 VG/PG base, Steeped 31 days.
Flavor Description: A whole bunch of stuff, all at once. I basically get a spicy yellow cake, although the nuance here is interesting.
This is halfway between a yellow cake and a breadier bakery. The texture is too soft to really carry the effect, but this is a bit too bready tasting for an actual cake. There's a softer grain that doesn't really support the light yeast risen notes here. None of it tastes bad, but it gets a bit hard to nail down for such a busy profile. I do get a decent richness, more like cake than a buttery pastry.
I'm not getting much a la mode here. There's a brighter vanilla pastry cream going on, but the heavier sweetness here makes it feel a lot like a frosting. This feels weighted pretty heavily towards bakery and the cream doesn't really stand out so much as blend in.
The cinnamon here is pretty unavoidable. It's a really solid bakery cinnamon and fits well with everything going on around it but it's fairly aggressive. Liquid barn is calling it a struesel, and you can pick up just a bit of a darker, almost raisiny brown sugar kind of thing happening alongside that cinnamon.
Overall the texture here doesn't really carry all of the flavor. There's some richer notes going on in the base of the flavor and a whole lot of cinnamon and sugar on top but that bakery flavor needs a little bit of reinforcement. This is also definitely on the sweet side solo.
Off-flavors: Nothing bad, but the texture doesn't keep up with the flavor. Also, it's a bit of an odd, busy profile.
Throat Hit: Moderate? I'm getting a good amount of spice from the cinnamon here.
Percentage testing: At 5% the cinnamon here really sticks out. I'm getting a lot more that struesel and some cake in the finish. I'm also not picking up much of that cream component.
At 9% the cake is starting to come out a bit more but I'd still call it cinnamon-forward. The cake doesn't real feel all that solid but the flavor is there. It's also getting fairly sweet and the cream is starting to come in. Feels a lot like a frosting.
Just based on these tests, I'd probably be using this a primarily cinnamon accent at around 3-4% or a primary or solo flavor closer to Liquid Barn's suggested 9%.
Uses & Pairings: Works pretty well as a solo flavor.
Outside of that, there's a lot going on here, and none of it's bad, but I'm not quite sure what you'd do with it. The path of least resistance would be reinforcing the cake note with FW Yellow Cake or your non-cancerous equivalent of choice. It should do an admirable job of filling out the base of this.
Outside of just adding a cake, you'll need a profile that involves cinnamon, a fluffy bakery, and icing. Could be used to bulk out Cinnamon Rolls, Capella CDS, or coffee cake type bakeries but I don't think you're going to be able to get away from that cinnamon. Could work for a snickerdoodle type booster with a harder AP underneath it and a bit of additional emulsification.
Or you could add some strawberries, and maybe some INW Custard and call it a day.
Mmmm sounds yum! Does LB ship to Canada? Can't access the website on my work pc for some reason.
No, they don't, I'm sorry. But, Bull City carries it. I think they ship to Canada, but not positive?