Is it just me or FE Sweet Rice is mostly AP?

submitted about 8 years ago by nikareijiiDiketones, Schmiketones

So, I've got — finaly — a bottle of FE Sweet Rice (which is a funny story that I'll tell you later). And it is a nice aroma indeed. But I suspected that it is mostly AP (acetyl pyrazine).

Well the first thing: it smells like AP. Straight from the bottle it smells just like AP. Then I've made a bottle of Mango Sticky Rice (which is a great recipe by Shyndo — it is just fucking right, it is a form of art, I love it). And in MSR, being diluted 20 times, it still smells (and tastes) like straight AP to me.

Then I replaced 5% FE Sweet Rice with 2% AP5 (TFA Acetyl Pyrazine 5%) and the result was so damn close I couldn't believe it — it was close accurate to sweetener level. I don't mind it, it is tasty.

So, the question is: is it FE Sweet Rice or is it just me?

Yeah, the story.

I was making an order on chefsflavours.co.uk (since I live in Russia and we don't have many of the flavourings) and I saw it: FE God Damn Sweet Rice, that was glorified by many. But when I finished my order it turned out that the last bottle of FE Sweet Rice was already sold. So I wrote them a letter and asked may be, just may be, they have a lost bottle for me to buy it or, you know, one bottle rolled under the shelf or something. But they said no, they checked and found nothing. BUT when I received package I found that very 30ml bottle of that very aroma. Yeah, for free. Guys. Love you, you are great. I hope you are reading this. <3

Comments

5 points

by diyvapingalmost 8 years agoMixologist

I have extremely sensitive senses so I tend to pick up aromas and notes most average tasters don't actually taste. That being said, I have used both FE Sweet Rice and TFA AP 5% and can say that they don't taste the same to me, not at all in fact. AP has a bready, toasted corn chips kind of note, depending on how you use it, and it smells like straight up corn chips in the bottle. The FE Sweet Rice smells like basmati rice with a slight note of cardboard on the back end of it, similar to how many cereal flavors taste. Is there some AP in Sweet Rice, I would venture to say yes there is a little in it, but it's not enough to make it taste like straight ap. I've used 5% Sweet Rice and it was smooth creamy rice flavor.

Could they maybe have sent you a free bottle just to take the piss and it WAS actually a 30ml of TFA AP? lol

2 points

by nikareijiialmost 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

It must be something with me, then. I now proceed to blind tests. Thank you for participation, kind sir.

3 points

by skijumper97about 8 years ago

This is the same for both FlavourArt Cookie, and Capella Sugar Cookie. There may be some added ethyl vanillin and ethyl maltol, but both are definitely composed mostly of AP.

7 points

by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

I agree with FA Cookie but I get no AP from CAP Sugar Cookie. Not saying you're wrong, I just don't pick it up at all in that and I'm pretty sensitive to AP.

2 points

by nikareijiiabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Same here, no AP tones from CAP sugar cookies.

Also low (say 0.5%) and moderately high (say 2-2.5%) amounts of AP works in completely different ways and do have very different tastes.

1 points

by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Absolutely, I get a bread note from low amounts of AP, but anything above 1% just tastes like corn flakes to me :)

2 points

by RinVapesabout 8 years ago

Same.. I hate FA Cookie because all I taste is AP... but I love Sugar Cookie... If it's in the CAP, they hid it well.

1 points

by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Yea I used to love FA Cookie but I'm starting to struggle with the AP.. I guess it's like pepper from TFA VBIC, once you start to pick up on it you're screwed =)

1 points

by shyndoabout 8 years ago

This pretty much. I am quite sure it is AP with some added volatiles. It probably tastes a lot more similar if you let the MSR steep and those deliciously unique rice volatiles disappear.

1 points

by EarnestAccordabout 8 years ago

IMHO vastly different. Yes, I think CAP SC does have some AP in it, but compared to FA Cookie, it's a custard of the bakery world. FA Cookie is grainy at 0.5%. CAP SC only gets creamier and denser the higher you go. Dunno, we all taste things differently, but thats my take.

2 points

by 0ptimusRhymeabout 8 years ago

I've gone through a bunch of FE sweet rice and never really thought it smelled or tasted like AP. I guess maybe they share some of the same top notes, but that's about the only similarity I personally taste. I have a mango sweet rice mix that I know inside and out, I'll try swapping the fe sweet rice with some AP just to see.

1 points

by chewingpaintchipsabout 8 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

> Then I replaced 5% FE Sweet Rice with 2% AP5 (TFA Acetyl Pyrazine 5%) and the result was so damn close I couldn't believe it — it was close accurate to sweetener level. I don't mind it, it is tasty.

1 points

by 0ptimusRhymeabout 8 years ago

Yea I read that, that's why I said I'd try it with AP and see if it tastes similar when in a mix, cuz solo I don't really find much similarity between them. Or am I missing what you're trying to point out to me?

2 points

by chewingpaintchipsabout 8 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

wait I'm I trippin? Were you saying to replace the sweet rice with AP? because that's what he did. I may be reading your post wrong my bad if i am.

1 points

by nikareijiiabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

May be it's mango/coconut combo makes me feel it. But even the mouthfeel, god, may be I am just spinning myself.

I need to perform a blind test.

2 points

by 0ptimusRhymeabout 8 years ago

There was once a guy who tasted INW Biscuit in TFA dragon fruit so this wouldn't be the craziest flavor similarity I've seen someone suggest. Taste is such a varying thing from one person to the next so I totally can see some people getting something from a concentrate that others don't. Happens quite often I'm sure we've all experienced it. Read a review for a flavor and expect it to taste like XX only to have it taste more like YY to you. Either way it'll be fun experimenting with AP as I've always like the flavor even at 2-3%

-2 points

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