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Rich and Creamy
submitted about 8 years ago by DoctorGroovy

Okay. So I'm working on a hot chocolate recipe for the upcoming holidays, and I'm struggling. I have a fairly decent flavor going, but it's not quite where I want it, and it's not rich and creamy enough.

TPA Merengue 2%

FA Fresh Cream 1%

CAP Chocolate Fudge Brownie v1 1%

TPA VBIC 2%

TPA DX Bavarian Cream 2%

TPA Sweetener 2%

Merengue, Bavarian, VBIC and Fresh Cream - I chose these flavors partially to give the whole thing a milky flavor, and partially to up the richness. The VBIC is there to add a little vanilla to the whole mix while keeping in them with the creamy aspect

Chocolate Fudge Brownie - It's just the best chocolate I've found, and the best I have. I wanted to use it because it gives me a fairly authentic chocolate flavor with little off tastes

Sweetener - I'm usually staunchly against sweeter in my juices, however I feel this will benefit from 1 or 2 percent, as hot chocolate is usually rather sweet. It also adds a little syrupyness that I want in there.

So I'm struggling. What's next? Its good, but not amazing. I want it to be richer, thicker, and maybe more chocolatey. Any ideas?

Stay Groovy Reddit,

~Doctor Groovy.

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by Tiptup300about 8 years ago

Remove sweetener while trying to balance a recipe, it doesn't affect texture much and is more of a distraction that will cover up the current flaws in the recipe.

TFA DX Bavarian Cream is a very slow moving concentrate since it's a DX version. Maybe sub with the non-DX? I personally found that it only messed up my early recipes when I was using it.

Other stuff looks about right.

Note that although this is a recipe, it's a WIP Recipe, there should probably be a thread specific to monthly WIP Recipes.

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by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

Good idea for a WIP thread

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by DoctorGroovyabout 8 years ago

I don't have the non-DX version of Bavarian Cream. Would a touch if butter add the appropriate Dikatones for that richness? And yeah. I will at least replace the tag for WIP.

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by Tiptup300about 8 years ago

Use a different cream or don't use any, Meringue, Cream Fresh, and VBIC are plenty of cream, not sure about subtle hot chocolate.

TFA Vanilla Swirl? or a marshmallow

I had TFA DX Bavarian Cream and I never found a good use for it.

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by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

I've been testing DX bavarian and regular Bavarian side by side. Not a huge difference for me in mixes at 1-1.5%

As a solo flavor at 5% they were pretty close for me. One of the only DX flavors I regularly use

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by Kewkewmoreabout 8 years agojust add sucralose

Flv milk and honey

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by zytukinabout 8 years ago

Try FA Marshmallow?
Marshmellow from other manufacturers might work as well, but I've only ever had it from FA. I use it in numerous mixes to add 'body' to the taste. Especially with creams and taffys. I also add it in small percentages (0.5% or less) to otherwise single flavor fruits to improve the vape.

It will act as a sweetener as well, so could try replacing the sweetener you are using with the marshmallow.

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by DoctorGroovyabout 8 years ago

I'll give that a shot! I have a little FA Marsh left.

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by xGRANITExabout 8 years ago

you said taffy. I've been struggling with a taffy base. care to lend your experience? right now I'm using like 4.5% FW Saltwater Taffy 2% Cap Marshmallow 1% Meringue FA

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by zytukinabout 8 years ago

Taffy base I made is:
1% FA Whipped Cream.
1% FA Vienna Cream.
1% FA Vanilla Tahiti.
0.5% FA Marshmellow.

Use at 3.5% and add the fruit of your choice.

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by xGRANITExabout 8 years ago

Is there a sub for vanilla Tahiti? That's like the only one I don't have

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by TheMostSolidOfSnakesabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

TFA white chocolate and FA marshmallow together does an excellent job adding a thick creamy base without overpowering everything.

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by DoctorGroovyabout 8 years ago

What percentage do you generally use for those? Also would FW White Chocolate work? I'd have to order TPA White Chocolate

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by TheMostSolidOfSnakesabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Only TFA white chocolate works in this way, and I recommend it at 2.5-3%

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by Cocky1976about 8 years ago

I'd add a small percentage of cap vc v1 and that marshmallow for a thicker creamy mouth feel. Also, random flavor but RF SC white chocolate is really good for adding a creamy sweetness without overpowering the other flavors.

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by DoctorGroovyabout 8 years ago

I was thinking about using cap VC actually. I just was worried I'd get too much of a custard taste. I think I'm going to try a combination with the FA Marshmallow and see how that goes. Thank you!

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by Cocky1976about 8 years ago

No problem, as long as you keep it to a low percentage it shouldn't overpower.

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by leojay78almost 8 years ago

If there's one word I can use to describe TFA VBIC, it's "rich". I would suggest increasing this to 3-4% for the vanilla and rich aspect. Then you could try FLV Cream at 1-1.5% or CAP Vanilla Whipped cream around 2% for the cream. I'd personally drop the Bavarian completely, but that's up to you. If CFB is your only chocolate option try raising in to 2% (JF Milk chocolate is my current go to). Not sure if you're getting enough milkiness in this recipe, but TPA Sweet cream is also another milky/creamy option. Just a few suggestions based on my experience. Enjoy the journey bro...

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by DoctorGroovyalmost 8 years ago

I also have several other chocolates, RF, FW Milk Chocolate and Dark Chocolate, TFA Double Chocolate Clear and Dark.

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