As always, the purpose of this thread is to gather the community to explore a flavor and its many uses. And it's also to have FUN!
Post recipes containing this week's Flavor of the Week, as the star or in a supporting role, with or without development notes. Talk about other people's recipes that use it. Compare and contrast different manufacturers' versions of the FOTW. Ask for help using that flavor in general or to achieve something specific, offer advice, brainstorm ideas, consider substitutions, suggest pairings... really anything at all as long as it's on topic.
This week's flavor is: Aromatic Tobaccos
What's that?
Our resident tobacco experts are more than welcome to correct me, but I think aromatics are tobaccos mixed with additional flavors like cherry and vanilla. It's the start of three back-to-bacco weeks of tobaccos. You can thank /u/chemicalburnvictim for these jokes, btw.
How did that get to be the FOTW?
It was requested. If you're not interested in this FOTW, please take this opportunity and comment to suggest one that interests you (or send me a PM to do that).
Past FOTW posts can be found here
Next week's flavor will be: Non-aromatic Tobaccos
The week after that will be: Tobacco Additives
The week after that will be: Marshmallows
The week after that will be: Pumpkin
The week after that will be: Persimmon
The week after that will be: Champagne
The week after that will be: Cake/Pandoro
The week after that will be: Hazelnut
The week after that will be: Maple
The week after that will be: Fig
The week after that will be: Blue Raspberry
The week after that will be: Dairy: Milk/Cream/Whipped Cream/Butter
The week after that will be: Banana
The week after that will be: Vegetals
The week after that will be: Gummy Candy
The week after that will be: Lemon
The week after that will be: Caramel
The week after that will be: Lime
The week after that will be: Cereal
The week after that will be: Orange
The week after that will be: Cheesecake
The week after that will be: Cherry
The week after that will be: Cookies/Graham Cracker/Pie Crust
The week after that will be: Coconut
The week after that will be: Cookie Dough & Cake Batter
The week after that will be: Custard
The week after that will be: Peach
The week after that will be: Raspberry
The week after that will be: Sweeteners
The week after that will be: Cinnamon Pastries
The week after that will be: Vanilla
The week after that will be: Canteloupe
The week after that will be: Honeydew
The week after that will be: Watermelon
Great puns this week!
Aromatics are probably the most popular tobaccos in the liquid form (lookin' at you, RY4.) When I first got in to DIY, I was all about that vanilla and hazelnut mixed with a sweet Tobacco. As I moved on in search of a dirtier, smokier taste, I kind of neglected the aromatics for a while. I've since found my ADV for the non-aromatic department, and I've started tinkering with the tasty stuff more.
Solo flavors:
INW Am4a tastes like a smooth pipe tobacco that is topped with cocoa and I get a hint of rum and dark fruits. I suppose it should be mentioned that some natural tobaccos can have some of those nuances without being topped with anything, but I'd still put this one in the aromatic category. Single flavor test @ 2% (originally tried 5% and hated the flavor.) I use a little lower in a mix in the .75-1% range.
INW Black Cherry for Pipe I have not had this for very long, but I am very pleased with what I've tasted of it so far. I was really afraid it would taste like medicine, and I was surprised to find that it doesn't. The Cherry is dark and not very sweet, and the tobacco aspect of it is full bodied and smoky, like Dark or Black for Pipe. Some may prefer a more pronounced cherry, but for me it's just right. I've got a mix that isn't quite share-ready yet that uses this with TFA Blackberry, INW Black for Pipe, and INW Black Jack Tobacco. It's looking promising. Single flavor tested @ 1.5%. Only tried a couple mixes so far between 1-2%, but could probably go up to 2.5%.
INW Cavendish tastes to me like a honey sweetened tobacco. Plays real nice with a bit of bourbon and a darker Tobacco. The room note can be a bit cat piss-esque, but doesn't taste like cat piss. Single flavor @ 2%. Mix between 1-3%.
SC Island Tobacco tastes like a pina colada. The tobacco note seems to be very mild to me, and you'd probably want to mix it with something else to boost that. But if you like pina coladas (and getting caught in the rain) then check it out. As I'm updating this, I am testing it at 1 week. Tobacco is coming out a bit more in a smoky way. Kind of like a smoky pina colada. Pretty cool flavor. Single flavor @ 2%, haven't mixed with it, but I'd probably keep it at 2% or lower.
INW Morning Rain Tobacco is a bit of an odd one. Citrus notes and a Koolada type cooling sensation. Pretty decent solo, but benefits from being mixed with a bolder tobacco. Single flavor @ 2%. In a mix will kind of depend on how cool you want things.
INW Falcon Eye I get ginger note from. It's quite tasty, and after a really long steep some really pleasant Tobacco and smoky notes come out. A quick google suggests that there might actually be some pipe tobaccos flavored with ginger, so that's interesting. Single flavor @ 2.5%. In a mix between 1-3%.
INW Canadian Type and INW Desert Voyager I will throw in the same boat because they both have a maple syrup note. Desert Voyager is probably the better of the two, and it has similar vibes as TFA RY4 Double, but I like it more. Haven't done a whole lot with these two. But yeah, they got Maple. Single flavor @ 2-3%, in a mix around the same.
INW Gipsy King is a really weird one. It's got all sorts of fruitiness going on. Maybe some berries and grapes and other things my poor little tongue can't quite identify. It reminded me of a Black and Mild Wine when I first tried it. I've since bought a Wine to smell next to it, and it's not exact, but it's close. Single @ 1%. Mix if you dare. Keep it low if you don't want it to overpower. Start at .25% and work your way up.
I've done run out of time on my lunch break typing all this out. I'll return with some aromatic recipes after work!
Edit: some formatting and some usage percentages.
I've recently fallen down the rabbit hole of tobacco flavors and have been reading a lot of your comments as I search this sub. Thank you for sharing so much knowledge on this topic!
I've only tried single flavor tests so far and a few simple 2-3 flavor mixes. I don't know if you've ever tried Rocketfuel Vapes but their NET flavors made me really fall in love with tobaccos. I don't care for any RY4, most caramels makes my throat feel thick and gunky; too sweet is also a turnoff.
I guess I like more robust, spicy and nutty? I still don't have the palate or nomenclature to put it into words but I know that Black for Pipe will be a staple, I even liked it on day one of the test. Gold for Pipe is another already on the keeper list. Pretty sure about DNB too - definitely as an additive, not solo.
That said, I'm finding that I really like pairing tobacco with certain spices and fruits. So far I have only tried peach, cinnamon, clove and chai on my own (separately, not all together!) Really love Rocket Fuel Calamity Jane in the spice arena. Other commercial ones I've liked are blueberry, raspberry and maybe apple. I like more than just a hint of fruit, some have been too far in the background for my taste so DIY is the way for me to go.
I'd love your thoughts on pairing with fruits - are there certain fruits you've found to be a definite yes or no in pairing with Aromatics? Any unusual ones? Spice and/or nut combos? I know already that clove can be good but I need to be much more light-handed on that one.
Conversely, are there any tobaccos in the Aromatic category that are a yes or no to pair with fruits? Anything more you have time to share on this topic would make my day.
Edit: I hope anyone else will feel free to chime in on the above, I know there are others whose tobacco comments and recipes are awesome but I don't know or remember the usernames.
Off of work and ready to dig in to this.
I have never had Rocketfuel, but I have tried some Truebacco NETs, and those got me really interested in doing my own NETs, which I've had some success with, but I think I still prefer playing with the artificial stuff. Less coil gunk and less work. Maybe harder to find a decent, authentic tasting tobacco, but there's plenty of gems to be found. Black for Pipe and DNB are probably my most used flavors, so I think we are on the same page. I can't really stand very much vanilla anymore, so I tend to stay away from the RY4 stuff.
In the spice category, a few months back I got sucked in to clove and cardamom because Cloud Alchemist Arrakis sounded very intriguing (though I've never tried it.) I eventually moved on to some similar things, but kind of left the Arrakis clone behind. As fate would have it, /u/kindground made Dune around the same time, and it's probably better than what I was working with.
I started going more towards a Tobacco with a bit of pumpkin spice stuff with it. Autumn Smoke being the best version I have so far. The Falcon Eye might interest you, since it's got a ginger note to it, and it works really well with the clove and spices that are in the FLV Eggnog. I also use it in a sort of similar gingerbread custard tobacco that I'll probably be releasing soon, but in the spirit of FOTW, might as well give a sneak peak. Still subject to change, but most likely the final version.
Fruits I am still getting to know a bit. FLV Fig is a nice one to add to some darker tobaccos. I used it in Black Fig and I thought that was pretty tasty. TFA Blackberry seems to be working really nice in my limited experience. Super strong though. I used it in this recipe along with Black Cherry for Pipe to get a really nice, dark fruit taste that isn't too tart. An odd one that I've been playing with is INW Rhubarb. It's got a really strange, tart/sour bite to it, but I really like it. I am using it in this recipe, which isn't really a Tobacco in my opinion, but I'm really liking it. The Rhubarb hits right at the beginning of the exhale, and then transitions in to the peach. If you'd want it to have more of a tobacco note, I'd swap the HS Churchill for some Black for Pipe. Or maybe use it in something like this instead of INW Cactus.
I originally made Native GOD to be a base for that apricot recipe, but ended up going the Black for Pipe route, but it's still a really nice base to add some fruits to. I've noticed that Gold for Pipe is a really nice bridge type of flavor. It fills the gap between the tobacco and whatever topping you will put on it. Recently mixed up this cantaloupe tobacco using that base. I used Gold for Pipe in a similar fashion in this one to bridge the gap between the Red Burley and the honey Bourbon flavor from Kentucky Bourbon and INW Cavendish.
Nuts are another thing that I really like in my tobaccos. INW Tobacco Peanut has a really realistic raw peanut taste, but it's pretty potent. INW Tobacco Symphony is another great nutty Tobacco. INW 555 Gold is pretty decent, but it was an acquired taste for me, and then I think I vaped too much of it and got kind of sick of it.
I reckon all this can act as part 2 of my post. 2 birds with one stone!
This is great info - I think your recipes and suggestions just in this thread alone will keep me busy for a while. Thank you for such a detailed response! I'm excited to try more complex recipes and learn enough to try creating my own at some point. Funny you mentioned Arrakis - Cloud Alchemist does not ship to my state and I have always been curious about that one, so the Dune recipe also intrigues me big time too.
Also funny that you mentioned rhubarb; although I live in the South I am originally from Minnesota and can't seem to grow it down here. I just made a rhubarb custard pie from some our kids brought down so I might have to attempt some liquid with that flavor at some point. I enjoy grapefruit flavors which can also be bitter but rhubarb has a strength all its own.
Thanks for the notes, Mr. Victim. These are your weeks. Teach us your baccy ways.
I should have started with the recipes instead of the solos. You can create a better aromatic with non-aromatic tobaccos and topping them with whatever your heart desires. Part 2 coming in a bit!
I've really learned to like Morning Rain
I don't have those other 2 flavors, but it looks pretty good. At first I was a little iffy about it, but then I used it to replace FA Polar Blast in a recipe and it added a little something special. I'm not big on that cooling sensation, but for every now and then it's pretty nice.
- [INW Am4a](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Am4a)
- [INW Black Cherry for Pipe](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Black Cherry for Pipe)
- [INW Cavendish](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Cavendish)
- [SC Island Tobacco](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/SC Island Tobacco)
- [INW Morning Rain Tobacco](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Morning Rain Tobacco)
- [INW Falcon Eye](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Falcon Eye)
- [INW Canadian Type](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Canadian Type)
- [INW Desert Voyager](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Desert Voyager)
- [INW Gipsy King](http://theflavorwiki.net/wiki/INW Gipsy King)
I've been out of the country so I missed this thread. SC Arabic Tobacco should be mentioned here, too. Just like you said last week or so, this adds a spice / licorice aroma at low percentage. I am trying to find a way to make it work. SC Old Captain should also be included if you want a chocolate aroma. I need to pick up some INW/FLV Cavendish.
I'm a tobacco-noob who is looking forward to learning a lot during this 'bacco extravaganza. I don't have any great insights to share, as a relative noob at this, but I do have a little background and list of other people's recipes I want to highlight.
Tobacco e-juice got me off the stinkies, but I turned my back on it in favor of fruits and bakeries pretty quickly. Tried a few tobacco recipes early in my DIY journey but they ranged from meh to nasty and I declared myself "not a tobacco guy" for the longest time. Part of that was just not knowing what was good or how to use any of it. But some was just plain not enjoying the flavors. For example, and I know this is an unpopular opinion because many people love it, I can't stand TFA RY4 Double. I could enjoy some tobacco recipes for what they were, but still wasn't particularly interested in them beyond basic curiosity about flavors and appreciation for the work that went into the recipes. They "weren't my thing."
But I'm no longer "not a tobacco guy." This is the recipe that converted me, my light on the road to Damascus: Abuela. It's easily one of my most favorite recipes ever. It takes me to another world.
Right now, at this very moment, I'm also falling in love with Cardinal. It's everything every standalone RY4 should be, but isn't, in my opinion. I'll leave a formal review once I've spent a little more time with it.
Other recipes I've enjoyed since awakening to the beauty of tobaccos:
Recipes I have steeping now and am excited to try:
Recipes on my to-mix list:
Looking for more to add to that list. I feel like I need to try more before creating my own, single-flavor testing seems slightly insufficient for learning just how these flavors work together, beyond the now-obvious FLV Red Burley + FLV Cured dynamic duo.
Usually I'm the one answering this plea rather than making it, but Suggest a recipe for me?
Just to answer your plea of suggest a recipe ;) I'll go into very light notes on my bacco's in a bit. I'm sure there are much more experience tobacco heads out there with better notes than I though.
This will be a fun week! Here are three recipes that I'm really liking. The first two are by tobacco extraordinaire /u/ChemicalBurnVictim. He got me introduced to INW tobaccos and they are fantastic. The last one I made and I'm proud of.
Smoaked
Brigade 2506
Hipster Coffee Tobacco
edit: The Gold Ducat I have was purchased from Vapers Tek on 7/19. I have no clue if it's the older one or a new reformulated one, but it is very delicious.
edit2: If you like tobaccos, Brigade 2506 is a must try. Guy Fieri would travel across the country to try that masterpiece.
Added Hipster Coffee Tobacco to my list. I haven't enjoyed a coffee flavor yet, but I'll give it a shot since I already have everything I need to make it. Thank you!
Thanks for the Dune recipe plug. It's one that I'm pretty proud of. I want to try your idea of playing with some other additions instead of the spices. When I'm feeling better I'm going to make mixes to try out fig, apple/cinnamon and boozy pears maybe.
Dune just moved way up in the "gotta try this one" category. I second apple cinnamon too, I love that combo but have yet to mix it with tobacco myself so if you try it I look forward to reading about it.
Edit - I just realized I have FA Clove, not FLV. Any idea if they are similar enough in strength?
FA and FLV clove are similar in strength but not exactly in flavor. FLV is more towards a clove cigarette and FA is more towards a bakery or mulling spice clove. I've tried both with tobaccos (not with this mix) and I prefer FLV. FA should work in a pinch though.
So, let's see if I can actually articulate any readable notes here on a few of the Tobaccos I like. I will leave out FLV - Red Burley and Cured, mainly because those have become staples in any tobacco arsenal. If you don't have them, get them. Period.
FA - 7Leaves Ultimate: One I enjoyed. Its aromatic to me, very earthy. It's wet, and doesn't seem to dry out. It gets a bit sweet as well. Also has a bit of ash at the end. You can almost taste the leaf in this. Personally I like to dry it out with FA - Oakwood or FLV wood spice some. It gets close to an analog to me, but a little sweeter.
FLV - Turkish: This is a bright and spicy (not heat, but spiced) tobacco. Its also pretty aromatic. Its got a bold, but light flavor to it, not very deep or earthy at all. It's got a lot of spice to it, and it paired well with FLV - Native to me. The spices of both melds well, and Native will add some depth and earthy feel to Turkish if that is what you are looking for. Turkish is pretty dry, ever so slightly sweet and overall very good solo or in a mix. No ash to this that I've noticed
FLV - Cavendish: Is pretty spot on to a Cavendish. Its a slightly spiced pipe tobacco with cherry. Its someone wet and slightly sweet. It can fill gaps very well, and for those who like cavendish, probably good solo. I'm not a fan of it solo, but thats my taste, not because its bad.
FLV - Connecticut Shade: I will take the words right from Fear's Abuela. It is a great cigar wrapper leaf. It just works. Slightly dry to me, and slightly sweet. Earthy.
FLV - Kentucky Blend: Slightly sweet and pretty bold. I get a hint of cream to this as well. More of a cigarette style tobacco to me, but it works well in a cigar blend, adding depth.
FLV - Tatanka: Its a dark and bold tobacco. Sweet, and slightly nutty. Its got an interesting taste, that unfortunately I can't describe very well other than that. I have paired with with Chocolate and some creams and it does very well.
INW - Burley: This is interesting, because in the bottle, and fresh before steep, I don't get much of a great tobacco flavor. Its slightly stringent and kind of offputting. After about 3 week steep it does turn into a earthy, leafy tobacco that is reminiscent of a burley type. Its pretty good though. Not as bold as FLV - Red Burley. Its lighter, but still used as a great main tobacco note. It does need some help though.
INW - Captain Jack for Pipe: This is a very bold pipe tobacco. A little goes a LONG way. It has hints of chocolate, and possibly some butterscotch/caramel as well. This lends itself to dessert/sweet tobacco blends. Mix it with others.
There are also some additives I enjoy using in Tobaccos. These include:
FLV - Wood Spice, adding some great complexity.
FA - Oakwood is great for adding a woody, oak note. It can also help dry out a wetter tobacco.
AP gives a nutty/dry taste and feel, can also add a bit of texture if you are looking for that
Thats all I have off the top of my head.
Edit: I'll add some more later. I have more notes on my computer. Couple other burleys, few more flv, and some random ones like ry4s
Do you have a favorite recipe with that 7 Leaves?
I only have one posted, its the one that I have vaped more than 30mL of. The others i play with, they are ok, but nothing I like to release sadly.
These are really helpful descriptions. Would some of these pair well with fruits in your opinion? I'm particularly interested in a blueberry or raspberry tobacco.
Out of the ones I listed, in my opinion, Cavendish possibly. I didn't list FLV - Red Burley, thigh I guess I could have haha. Red Burley pairs well with strawberry and raspberry in my opinion. Dragonfruit as well. I could see Turkish could do berries as well, but haven't tried that personally.
And boom I finally had time. So, Aro vs Non Aro in the pipe community is a long running debate, it gets weird, nasty and heated at times as well. Classically Aro is flavored and everything else is English. Modern Aro is heavily flavored and Non-Aro is everything else. BUT. All tobaccos are flavored to some extent, this happens in the "casing" in the curing process. Not sure how many of you have ever tried to smoke an uncured, non-cased tobacco. Something along the lines of what you can get for Native American Spiritual stuffs. It is pretty bad. So having said that, all tobacco is flavored, the Aromatic descriptor is reserved for the more heavily flavored tobaccos that generate a heavy room note. Serious pipe smokers do not care for them because if you are chiefing heavily they start tasting like smoking an airfreshener or a scented candle. Light smokers, generally "mouth puffers" tend to like them because their bowl does not get that hot, they are not inhaling and getting most of their "taste" from the aroma of the room note combined with the texture of the smoke in their mouths. "whew" Aight Den. Since all tobaccos are flavored, we know this.... For vaping I prefer to refer to things as Desert Tobacco or Tobacco.. :) Because lets face it, the concentrates that are analogs of "Classic Aromatic Tobacco" are anything but pleasing Aromatics, 99% of them are "Aromatic AF" but not in a good way.
But, I guess since we are talking concentrated flavors that are analogs of something "real" I will begrudgingly conceed that the term loosely fits. And also, I had some stuff gathered in my brain space to put here in regards to specific concentrates but it appears that /u/ChemicalBurnVictim has invaded my brain space and preemptively posted my thoughts, almost to a "T" It's almost like he is a serious tobacco vapes enthusiast or something.
/u/FearTX Just saw you on an episode of Noted. Great thread too.
I've tried the whole FA, TFA FLV ranges, nothing really stood out for me, although FLV were a lot nicer and more useable than FA/TFA, just a bit tame.
I happen to love the room note of INW Cavendish, but struggle to get the flavour to come through. Quite glad the weather is turning colder, so I can dig out some of my more robust recipes and home made NETs. Had quite a successful summer finding tobacco recipes that worked in the heat. For me that's where the Aromatics shine. Particularly INW Latakia. This kept me going all summer:
Latakia Lemon Posset:
AP 0.25%
INW Latakia 2.5%
TPA Lemon 2.0%
Saline 0.25%
TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream 1%
Some of my favorite tobaccos that have simple additions are:
- INW Black Cherry For Pipe
- INW Vanilla for Pipe
- INW 555 - nutty
All three are decent stand alone. I [threw some figs and stuff at Black Cherry for pipe] (http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1081762/Black+Cherry+Fig+v1) and it came out pretty nice. I just got tired of the long steep times and stopped working on it.
I've got handful of those For Pipes on the way to try out. Do you have % useage suggestions for them?
The Brigade recipe I posted has Black for Pipe at 2.5%. The first time I mixed it I accidentally used Dark for Pipe. Black for Pipe at 2.5% is totally fine, but I found 2.5% too high for Dark for Pipe, which has a bright fruity note to me, similar to a plum. I'd say 2-3% is great for Black and maybe 1-1.5% for Dark.
I'm still pretty new to these flavors so I hope someone with more experience with the for Pipes can help you.
I dont have anything planned and little to share. Admittedly I wanted to have that GCMS done by now but life.. uh... finds a way...
so im just gon share this v1 creation
- 3% TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust
- 1% TFA Toasted marshmallow
- 1% INW Custard
- 0.7% FA Coconut (meant to be 0.5% o well)
- 1% TFA Banana nut bread
- 0.02% [Acetyl Pyrazine 5% solution: AP5]
- 1% INW Wera Garden Cuban Tobacco Absolute.
For v2 I would cut the toasted marshmallow, up the AP to like 0.05 - 0.3ish. and maybe try to add some fa hazlenut or nut mix. Also might try swapping that fa coconut for FLV coconut0.2% or sweet coconut 1%. Im not at home so idk do what you want with it.
I have no way of confirming the FA hazelnut i have is in PG and not vegetable oil so ima prolly re-order from another vendor
triacetin or something of that nature would help blend that recipe btogether mo' better. which is going to lead me to the next note: triacetin for custards/tobaccos.
>obligatory for the noobs: heres our ugly illegitimate love child.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/CloudCollective/comments/3pqhc5/workgroup_tobacco_reviews/
Thank you for that link, I didn't know it existed! I've been reading different flavor profiles but having a bunch together is really helpful.
np/youre welcome
shoutout/thanks to all the cool ppl that lemme use their content/space and/or contributed content. i would have not been able to do that shit solo. I also did not expect it to become that helpful
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3q8az8/tobacco_review_tfainw/
I think that's the beginning. 2 lines, I think like 3 tfa reviews, and no idea wtf I was doing.
but we did let cloud collective die :[
but got a lot of great tasting notes and conversations :]
Thank god for Fear. Another gem in addition to Cardinal and Abuela
Prapple Baco
*1% FLV Granny Smith
*0.75% FLV Praline
*1.6 FLV Red Burley
*0.8 FLV Sweet Cigarette
*0.8 FLV Toffee
*1 FLV Turkish Tobacco
"Steeping Disclaimers: I really like FLV Tobaccos fresh, not that they fade away but on the Shake and Vape they have a very strong, rich and sometimes almost overwhelming presence that I enjoy. This one really comes together about day 5 VG Disclaimer, Yes, I still think tobaccos benefit more from 50%-60% VG, but do as you please, it is nice at 70% VG as well."
A work in progress
2.5% INW am4a 2% TFA Kentucky bourbon 2% INW shisha vanilla. 0.25% FA honey
The am4a gives me a taste very reminiscent of scotch, the Kentucky bourbon fills out the scotch profile, the shisha vanilla and honey and a warmth and sweetness to the whole thing.
I'm glad I saved this thread. I'm going to save the ones for the next 2 weeks as well. I'm a straight tobacco guy and I really look forward to trying these out when I finally get started.
Thank you all for your insights and flavor profiles and also for recommending the ones that need mixed and the ones that are good standalone. That part is probably the most helpful a start because I can use the standalone to get myself started before I start mixing flavors.
**I'm only on Reddit every once in a while and don't recall how to do bullet points Here are two of my recent tobacco creations
The Don
FA Caramel @ 1%
FA Cherry @ 4%
FA Cookie @ 2%
FA Maple @ 1%
FA Marshmallow @ 1%
FA Meringue @ 1%
FA Polar Blast @ 0.5%
FA RY4 @ 2%
TFA RY4 Double @ 3%
TFA Vanillin @0.25%
Southern Hospitality
TFA Green Apple @ 2%
TFA Bav Cream @ 2%
FA Desert Ship @ 2%
FA Lime Cold Pressed @ 0.5%
FA Marshmallow @ 1%
FA Pear @ 2%
FA RY4 @ 1%
TFA RY4 Double @ 3%
TFA Vanillin @ 0.25%
INW's Gold Ducat and AM4A have become my staple aromatic tobaccos. Ive been tinkering with this recipe called Arab Ducat for a few weeks.
1% INW Gold Ducat
5% HS Arabic Tobacco
1% SC Arabic Tobacco
1% INW DNB
Still a work in progress. I am going to be migrating from ELR to ATF soon. Seems to be an easier site to mix on.
I think SC Old Captain and SC Blended Tobacco need a seat at the table. Both in my opinion bring tolerable chocolate aromas to any tobacco mix.
SC Old Captain: Nothing like SC Captain or INW Captain Jack for Pipe. This is straight cocao with hints of cigar leaf.
SC Blended Tobacco: Has a leathery note similar to TFA Western and TFA Turkish with a cocao background.
Personally, I feel like vanilla, chocolate, bourbon, and almond go very well with most hardline tobaccos (especially the Flavorah type such as Cured, Tatanka, Red Burley, Kentucky, etc).
Here is a simple recipe that takes a solid 3-4 week steep but is deliciously chocolately.
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1752169/Smooth%20Pipe%20Cacao
Absolutely love Desert Ship FA but there isn't a whole lot of recipes out there. I also love Double RY4 TFA. I'm looking for a recipe that combines these two flavors but is well balanced, desert ship is pretty potent and always ends up taking over. Would appreciate any advice or guidance on how to work with Desert ship FA.
Never really been a fan of DS, but I can honestly say that the only recipe to actually turn out well for me with that concentrate is [Cobra Byte] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/18069#cobra_byte_by_tonyp1119). 2 weeks steep is recommended on the recipe, however, I've found three and a half to four weeks to be the point where DS settles down and turns to something wonderful. Might be less in your face and lend to a shorter steep time if you drop from .5 to .25 (DS is pretty strong). Overall though, if you run with the recipe unmolested, I can say it holds up really well over time -- I had 10-15ml leftover from a previous mix that turned out to be about five months old and was pretty fantastic.
As far as DS use, it's one of those concentrates that requires a gentle hand; Less is more, so start low for a better result and if you think it needs more, add sparingly...
FA Monsoon is a nice blend of soft tobacco and autumn fruits. At lower percentages (around 1%) it is more of a tobacco with a fruit basket on it, very mild and pleasant, yet with complex tobacco note. As the concentration grows fruits become more forward, ending on 3-4% as a prominent but smooth mix of cherry, pear, melon and indistinguishable red fruit on top of a tobacco layer that is almost not there.
I really enjoy it solo at 1.5% (with a long steep) as a treat for my palate.