I used to do everything individually, but when you get 5-10 new flavors in at a time, it's a major pain in the ass. I ended up making 240 ml in a condiment bottle of 65/35 VG/PG at a little over 2mg/ml, so all I have to do is drop in the new flavor, then add the base and shake and taste. So much easier that way. I still do everything individually when I make bigger batches, but for flavor testers and new recipe tests it has been a great time saver.

As for best it can be, don't underestimate steeping where needed. Don't expose any of your liquids to direct sunlight, heat or more oxygen than you have to. And don't substitute one flavor for another and think you know what the actual mix would taste like - it can be similar, but never the same.

Why the hell did I not think about this before I mixed up over 30 flavor testers. I could have saved sooo much time.

I've just started doing the following:

Make a base with the VG/PG/Nic strengths with the lowest percent flavouring you want to test.

Then divide the the base equally into number of %'s you want to test.

Then add flavourings to each tester to bring up the flavour % to what you want.

It does have the disadvantage that the VG/PG ratios and Nic strengths move but it's not by much.

For example I wanted to test 0.5%, 1%, 2%, 3% and 5% flavour concentrations. So I made a 20 ml 6 mg/ml 70/30 base with 0.5% flavouring.

I then divided into 5 equal 4 ml batches (5 different percentages to test).

Then I added flavouring to each 4ml sample to bring up to the required testing %.

(I used a spreadsheet to to the calculations).

Interestingly according to my spreadsheet even at 5% the tester was 5.7 mg/ml, 67/33 VG/PG. So not really enough of shift to worry over.

I've just started doing the following:

Make a base with the VG/PG/Nic strengths with the lowest percent flavouring you want to test.

Then divide the the base equally into number of %'s you want to test.

Then add flavourings to each tester to bring up the flavour % to what you want.

It does have the disadvantage that the VG/PG ratios and Nic strengths move but it's not by much.

For example I wanted to test 0.5%, 1%, 2%, 3% and 5% flavour concentrations. So I made a 20 ml 6 mg/ml 70/30 base with 0.5% flavouring.

I then divided into 5 equal 4 ml batches (5 different percentages to test).

Then I added flavouring to each 4ml sample to bring up to the required testing %.

(I used a spreadsheet to to the calculations).

Interestingly according to my spreadsheet even at 5% the tester was 5.7 mg/ml, 67/33 VG/PG. So not really enough of shift to worry over.

They are a German company, so not widely used

The Strawberry explosion...I really enjoyed that. It really is a strawberry explosion.

The Strawberry explosion...I really enjoyed that. It really is a strawberry explosion.

Did you only order from FW?

What percentage did you mix it at?

idk what shipping is gonna be like on a glycube but thats a good place to start

http://www.essentialdepot.com/category/VG-GLYCUBE.html

ED also has an amazon shop with slightly more expensive prices

i have no idea on pdo : /

Depends on what quantities of bulk you're talking here. If you're talking about direct from the manufacturers then you're going to have to prove what you're using it for. DuPont, who was the sole manufacturer for a while, refused to sell to anyone for vaping purposes. I've only been able to find it on Ebay for a very inflated price so I haven't even tried it out yet.

Most people use PDO 1:1 for PG.

Amazon for pg/vg. They are both free 2 day shipping with prime. VG by the gallon yo.

source on pdo in here

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/43q73k/i_just_got_my_liter_sample_of_zemea_propanediol/

Where do you buy your propanediol? I've been wanting to try it for a while.

Not one ingredient. It's probably overflavoring. Nothing is usually "responsible" for vaper's tongue, other than vaping the same profile excessively, without drinking enough water.

> I just made my first order for all the supplies to start making juice on my own and I ordered a couple of starter flavors and a sample pack. Any one have some good recipes for any of these juices? I have VG Base and PG Nic.

Also you can create a free All The Flavors account, stick your flavours in a list and then then get it to suggest a recipe. Use the +1 or +2 filter to guide your future flavour purchases.

There is a Suggest A Recipe Thread. List your flavors there, instead.

> I just made my first order for all the supplies to start making juice on my own and I ordered a couple of starter flavors and a sample pack. Any one have some good recipes for any of these juices? I have VG Base and PG Nic.

Also you can create a free All The Flavors account, stick your flavours in a list and then then get it to suggest a recipe. Use the +1 or +2 filter to guide your future flavour purchases.

Not really. Mixing straight into the bottle and shaking it together works just fine.

I would just use normal bottle that you mix your juice in. The stuff that most places sell premixed is 30%, so that's what going to be in most recipes you find. They don't say if it's w/w or w/v, but 3 g crystals and 7 g PG should work fine to make things easier. Just test out your solution to find your sweet spot, and when a recipe calls for it, add what you find to be best for you.

Can't speak for WS-23, but the density of menthol is 0.89 g/ml so assuming 1 g/ml is accurate enough. It's really not important as it's not a flavor per se. The melting point is 36–38 °C or 97–100 °F, so just immerse the bottle in lukewarm water and shake it up now and then until you can't see any more crystals. Don't overcomplicate things ;)

510 Central from Amazon? When I need bottles quick I buy those. All their bottles are excellent

Compared to the amount you get it isn't cheaper. Buy them separately you'll be able to make more juice. You're getting less right now for cheaper. Buying all of the bases separately is more expensive right now but cheaper in the long run.

Personal preference but some recipes will be really runny and some really thick. Separate bases is what I always have used and would personally recommend.

That's all i use. It's more expensive, but it's so much quicker and more convenient. I used 100mg and pg/vg for years, but won't go back because this is so much easier.

Since you are going to invest in high quality nicotine, I recommend picking up enough amber glass bottles with phenolic caps. I follow the storage practices outlined here. I don't know whether that is overkill, but I have nic a little over 2 years old that is still as good as new.

As far as which flavors, this is worth a look. BUT, I really recommend picking out some well reviewed highly rated recipes that appeal to you, and buy those needed flavors. Look thru the monthly and best-of threads here, and alltheflavors.com for some great recipes that have positive feedback.

Welcome!

There is this recipe that looks like it uses Black Fire and Black for Pipe in an interesting way.

We are going to need to recipes you used and the brands for those flavors

DIYFS Holy Vanilla is only available direct from them.

Jungle Flavors is only available direct from ECX.

Ecigexpress, Bullcityflavors and Gremlins are the three I use that have most of the concentrates I'll need but the ones you have listed are both going to have to be separate orders.

Here's a guide.

If shipping glass bottles I would use a small box and wrap bubble wrap around each bottle along with lining the box with it. The goal is to be able to drop it from 6 feet with no damage happening.

I use Priority USPS padded envelopes. Throw the bottles in a separate zip bag, put them in the package, seal and print off the mailing label. I've shipped over 240 mls at once this way.

Here's a guide.

If shipping glass bottles I would use a small box and wrap bubble wrap around each bottle along with lining the box with it. The goal is to be able to drop it from 6 feet with no damage happening.

I use Priority USPS padded envelopes. Throw the bottles in a separate zip bag, put them in the package, seal and print off the mailing label. I've shipped over 240 mls at once this way.

See this guide to figure out what you need to do and how.

This stickied post in the side bar from /u/kirkt

> I personally do not recommend kits for new mixers. I started with a kit myself and still have some of the original kit which has never been used in years. I have reviewed kits and found them lacking some essentials yet including useless stuff. My personal recommendation is to visit one of the comprehensive vendors who carry nic, bases, flavors and gear and start shopping (see the verified vendors list).

See this guide to figure out what you need to do and how.

This stickied post in the side bar from /u/kirkt

> I personally do not recommend kits for new mixers. I started with a kit myself and still have some of the original kit which has never been used in years. I have reviewed kits and found them lacking some essentials yet including useless stuff. My personal recommendation is to visit one of the comprehensive vendors who carry nic, bases, flavors and gear and start shopping (see the verified vendors list).

I would start around 3-4% single flavor with FA in a MTL device. It's better to try that and bump it up if the watermelon turns out too weak, than to go too high and blow your senses.

There are only a few SC flavors on that list. The only one I see worth it is Watermelon.

Same here, cant find diyfs holy vanilla or WS-23 anywhere. I may have to try across the pond.

That burnt taste is coming from the coffee flavor. There aren't many good tasting coffee flavors. FA Up is a popular one, though. Adding TFA Sweet Cream would be a good idea for the creamer.

Make sure your coffee is very VERY low percent. Which concentrates are you using?

Make sure your coffee is very VERY low percent. Which concentrates are you using?

I can recommend you try PUR Caramel Coffee with Sweet Cream. I haven't messed around with many coffee concentrates as I had read none were that good and I never found a commercial coffee juice I enjoyed but as long as ur ok with some caramel in your coffee PUR's version is pretty tasty!

If you aren't buying in bulk, any of the DIY vendors or Amazon

[Glass bottle outlet] (https://glassbottleoutlet.com/collections/boston-round) They are not in ml, just look at 16oz size. I am not sure what the shipping costs are but the bottles with caps are about $2 in amber glass.

Here's a guide.

If shipping glass bottles I would use a small box and wrap bubble wrap around each bottle along with lining the box with it. The goal is to be able to drop it from 6 feet with no damage happening.

I use Priority USPS padded envelopes. Throw the bottles in a separate zip bag, put them in the package, seal and print off the mailing label. I've shipped over 240 mls at once this way.

Here's a guide.

If shipping glass bottles I would use a small box and wrap bubble wrap around each bottle along with lining the box with it. The goal is to be able to drop it from 6 feet with no damage happening.

I use Priority USPS padded envelopes. Throw the bottles in a separate zip bag, put them in the package, seal and print off the mailing label. I've shipped over 240 mls at once this way.

See this guide to figure out what you need to do and how.

This stickied post in the side bar from /u/kirkt

> I personally do not recommend kits for new mixers. I started with a kit myself and still have some of the original kit which has never been used in years. I have reviewed kits and found them lacking some essentials yet including useless stuff. My personal recommendation is to visit one of the comprehensive vendors who carry nic, bases, flavors and gear and start shopping (see the verified vendors list).

See this guide to figure out what you need to do and how.

This stickied post in the side bar from /u/kirkt

> I personally do not recommend kits for new mixers. I started with a kit myself and still have some of the original kit which has never been used in years. I have reviewed kits and found them lacking some essentials yet including useless stuff. My personal recommendation is to visit one of the comprehensive vendors who carry nic, bases, flavors and gear and start shopping (see the verified vendors list).

You'll want to check out the sidebar and read it thoroughly. Then find some well regarded recipes, and buy flavors from those recipes. As far as those ones you have, you should experiment. That's the fun in DIY. Leave out the Sweetener until you are more experienced

Mango @2-3% is pretty nice. The other 2 def aren't meant to be standalone, and I don't think they would mix very well with each other.

A piece of advice is to look up some recipes with POSITIVE feedback, then order those needed flavors. And like Eddie said, try to refrain from sweetener. Your coils will thank you =)

Welcome!

You'll want to check out the sidebar and read it thoroughly. Then find some well regarded recipes, and buy flavors from those recipes. As far as those ones you have, you should experiment. That's the fun in DIY. Leave out the Sweetener until you are more experienced

Mango @2-3% is pretty nice. The other 2 def aren't meant to be standalone, and I don't think they would mix very well with each other.

A piece of advice is to look up some recipes with POSITIVE feedback, then order those needed flavors. And like Eddie said, try to refrain from sweetener. Your coils will thank you =)

Welcome!

Its boring and tedious but if you don't want to throw your stuff out you need to do single flavour testing on them. My bet is that some of your flavourings are probably bad.

What I would do is, give them a good shake, make single flavour batches and try them out. Look at the flavour wiki for notes and compare.

That's what I have for you, good luck.

Are they the same recipes you have made before? Has your mixing equipment/vape gear changed at all? How old are your supplies?

Its boring and tedious but if you don't want to throw your stuff out you need to do single flavour testing on them. My bet is that some of your flavourings are probably bad.

What I would do is, give them a good shake, make single flavour batches and try them out. Look at the flavour wiki for notes and compare.

That's what I have for you, good luck.

Are they the same recipes you have made before? Has your mixing equipment/vape gear changed at all? How old are your supplies?

You'll want to check out the sidebar and read it thoroughly. Then find some well regarded recipes, and buy flavors from those recipes. As far as those ones you have, you should experiment. That's the fun in DIY. Leave out the Sweetener until you are more experienced

Mango @2-3% is pretty nice. The other 2 def aren't meant to be standalone, and I don't think they would mix very well with each other.

A piece of advice is to look up some recipes with POSITIVE feedback, then order those needed flavors. And like Eddie said, try to refrain from sweetener. Your coils will thank you =)

Welcome!

You'll want to check out the sidebar and read it thoroughly. Then find some well regarded recipes, and buy flavors from those recipes. As far as those ones you have, you should experiment. That's the fun in DIY. Leave out the Sweetener until you are more experienced

Mango @2-3% is pretty nice. The other 2 def aren't meant to be standalone, and I don't think they would mix very well with each other.

A piece of advice is to look up some recipes with POSITIVE feedback, then order those needed flavors. And like Eddie said, try to refrain from sweetener. Your coils will thank you =)

Welcome!

Its boring and tedious but if you don't want to throw your stuff out you need to do single flavour testing on them. My bet is that some of your flavourings are probably bad.

What I would do is, give them a good shake, make single flavour batches and try them out. Look at the flavour wiki for notes and compare.

That's what I have for you, good luck.

Are they the same recipes you have made before? Has your mixing equipment/vape gear changed at all? How old are your supplies?

Its boring and tedious but if you don't want to throw your stuff out you need to do single flavour testing on them. My bet is that some of your flavourings are probably bad.

What I would do is, give them a good shake, make single flavour batches and try them out. Look at the flavour wiki for notes and compare.

That's what I have for you, good luck.

Are they the same recipes you have made before? Has your mixing equipment/vape gear changed at all? How old are your supplies?

Gremlin DIY/Ecig Xpress both W Coast

what are you shopping for?

If you scroll down a bit on the BCF page, you see this:

>The Following is directly from Capella: > >"Due to popular demand and unavailable resources we have been forced to reformulate our original Marshmallow flavor concentrate. Tahitian Vanilla is now in high demand due to a global shortage which has driven $$ pricing $$ through the roof.

>In order to keep our flavor concentrate competitive we have used alternative compounds to formulate the Marshmallow flavor concentrate. In addition, diketones have not been used in the production of this flavor concentrate. Enjoy!!"

Here is some talk about it from a year ago.

No. It's "Shitty New Version" Marshmallow. Recipes are probably using the original version.

It's going to really depend on the flavor you are cloning. CAP Golden Pineapple is usually recommended, but for a clone I recently made, it required the dreaded TFA Pineapple in a small amount

If you're starting with 1.5 mg and add 9 of the 20 mg, you'll end up with 1,090 ml at 3.02 mg.

• INW Peach

• CAP Golden Pineapple

• TFA Kiwi Double

• TFA Blackberry (very potent. Use caution with this one)

You should be ordering based on recipes you find in this sub and on ATF. Do not place your order based on what flavors you think sound good. I will say that those flavors I listed are excellent ones, though. You just don't want to start experimenting on your own right away.

I'd recommend marshmallow from The Flavor Apprentace, they have 2 versions one with Diacetyl aswell as one without it. I've used the original, so I can't speak for the DX version (without Diacetyl). TFA have great selection and I have not had a 'bad flavor' from them, plus great customer service.

Someone else reccomended CAP Golden Pineapple in this thread, I've heard good things about them but never ordered from them myself. I've used Peach Rings and Pineapple from Mt Baker Vapor and enjoy both - unfortunately it seems they've stopped selling flavorings (I can't find them on their site anymore).

I'd maybe try cutting in half before adding more. The review seems to suggest it's kind of weak, but 15% seems a bit high.

Yes, flavorings and PG are really close to 1g / 1mL. VG has a higher density / specific gravity, around 1.2g / 1mL.

I agree with /u/ChemicalBurnVictim, over-flavoring (resulting in muting) is counter-intuitive but is a real thing. Try backing off the CAP Blackberry to 6% (should weigh out at 0.62g) Total weight for the finished mix should be right around 12g, assuming 70:30 VG:PG

Hope this helps! Good luck.

11 ingredients lol. People try too hard. Simple can be really good. Something like this:

4% TFA Cheesecake/Graham (light on cheese but heavy crust)

3% TFA Straw Ripe

2% INW Shisha Straw

1% FA Meringue (for additional sweetness)

If you wanted a little more cheesy taste then 1% Cap NY will help it. I keep meaning to pick up LA Cheesecake as some people I trust say it's pretty good, but I am happy enough with TFA.

Try TFA Vanilla Swirl.

Most likely Capella Sugar Cookie was the base in that juice. Search for recipes both here and Alltheflavors.com for well-reviewed recipes containing that. Here is a great one that can be easily be tweaked and/or added to.

Look for some additional recipes to round out your order. That works a lot better than picking what sounds good.

I was just looking through this page from the sidebar:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/first_order_flavors

Below the list of flavors is some sample recipes that only use those flavors. The Lemonade and Sugar Cookie ones were the most appealing to me, so I'm starting with the flavors required for those recipes.

You're thinking about benzoic acid, some talk about it here and here.

As for WTA, I've only heard that it imparts a taste and while it may give more of a buzz it may not be that good for you. I didn't bother reading up on it after hearing that :)

You're really only going to be able to extract the flavor from tobacco. You can buy nic salts (though not sure about Canada) so you can up the nicotine content without giving a really harsh hit. Are you currently mixing for them? Or do you know what strength they are trying?

You really should have done a bit more research before choosing your vendor. Vapewild is terrible and has left a bad taste in the mouths of the DIY community. Their nicotine is terrible, and they most likely use rebottled FW flavors if I remember correctly. Bull City, Gremlin, Ecig Express, Nicotine River, and Heartland should all ship to you.

Since you chose Vapewild, it's actually not going to be easy to find recipes.

In the event you're being serious I use to use mine every time. I also rented out government facility space in a nuclear reactor to be ultra safe.

Honestly now days, I don't even wear gloves unless i'm transferring nicotine.

I've never worn any protective gear. If you're careful, there's no need, but if you're a bit clumsy and prone to messing up, by all means.

lol. No hazmat suit.

> recipes will be really runny and some really thick. Separate bases is

lol never. I wore gloves a couple times but didn't bother after that.

CAP Sugar Cookie, TFA VBIC, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Blueberry Extra, FW Blueberry, RF SC Strawberry, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Marshmallow, LB Vanilla Ice Cream.

Cap Sugar Cookie, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA, Vanilla Swirl, TFA Pear, TFA Peach (Juicy)

:D I suspect this will be similar to many peeps.

CAP Sugar Cookie, TFA VBIC, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Blueberry Extra, FW Blueberry, RF SC Strawberry, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Marshmallow, LB Vanilla Ice Cream.

Cap Sugar Cookie, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA, Vanilla Swirl, TFA Pear, TFA Peach (Juicy)

:D I suspect this will be similar to many peeps.

Everything I need for Shurb, FA Mandarin, FW Beetle Juice, TFA Whipped Cream. TFA Vanilla Swirl etc.

And I have large quantities for the V2 and the latest version.

Everything I need for Shurb, FA Mandarin, FW Beetle Juice, TFA Whipped Cream. TFA Vanilla Swirl etc.

And I have large quantities for the V2 and the latest version.

Nope. What country do you live in?

Nope. What country do you live in?

CAP Sugar Cookie, TFA VBIC, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Blueberry Extra, FW Blueberry, RF SC Strawberry, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Marshmallow, LB Vanilla Ice Cream.

Cap Sugar Cookie, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA, Vanilla Swirl, TFA Pear, TFA Peach (Juicy)

:D I suspect this will be similar to many peeps.

CAP Sugar Cookie, TFA VBIC, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Blueberry Extra, FW Blueberry, RF SC Strawberry, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Marshmallow, LB Vanilla Ice Cream.

Cap Sugar Cookie, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA, Vanilla Swirl, TFA Pear, TFA Peach (Juicy)

:D I suspect this will be similar to many peeps.

Everything I need for Shurb, FA Mandarin, FW Beetle Juice, TFA Whipped Cream. TFA Vanilla Swirl etc.

And I have large quantities for the V2 and the latest version.

Everything I need for Shurb, FA Mandarin, FW Beetle Juice, TFA Whipped Cream. TFA Vanilla Swirl etc.

And I have large quantities for the V2 and the latest version.