One thing I haven't seen mentioned here yet is shake every single bottle of ingredients before you use it. That includes flavours, nic, VG, PG. Especially the flavours.

"For etc if I needed 2% of TFA sweet strawberry and I'm marking 50ml then it's 1ml I need?"

Why are you trying to calculate it yourself? You put how much you want to make in and it'll tell you the exact measurements you need.

One thing no one has said here, it does take a little time to get used to if you are coming off commercial juices. Because they are laden with sweetener.

Just recently I went into vape shop for the first time in 2 years. I wanted to try to get a little inspiration and ideas of flavor combos (and I didnt have anything better to do). Really nice setup of 30 subtanks to try all the juices. I must have tried most of them, and every single one was loaded with sucralose.

After leaving, right away I couldn't taste my own juice. Very weak. For the rest of the day it sucked. Next morning I was fine, back to full flavor again. Could it be that you haven't given it a few days, while staying away from non-sweetened juices?

> and opening the bottles to let fresh air in

you should not do that. All the flavour volatiles will escape.

Break it down a little, buddy. Make yourself 15ml of just the pg/vg mix and one flavoring, and see if you can taste that. If you can't, try a little more flavoring, see if there is a difference. Don't waste any of your nic and start with just one flavor. After that, try it with another flavor or a blend of two. Tiny little samples. They should have noticable flavor even without steeping.

This will let you figure out fast, cheap, and easy whether the problem is "I can't taste these flavors at the % i'm using, and need more", or "I'm using too much flavor and its muted", or "I taste the flavor, it's just not sweet", or something else. It's basically what people do to test or review a new single flavor... they try it in a vg/pg mix at 1%, then 2%, then 3%, until it gets strong. After working out how the flavor tastes, for them, by itself, it's much easier to use it in a mix with confidence.

Unfortunately you might be an under taster (not sure that's a thing but whatevs) for instance you say store bought juice tastes good but to me it is overwhelmingly sweet and over flavored and I got flavor fatigue or vapors tongue from vaping as little as 10ml depending on the juice. Now as a general rule of thumb different flavoring companies have different flavoring strengths. If you take a TFA flavor and enjoy it at 5% and try the same with INW or FA you typically will have just ruined your juice as INW and FA are typically much stronger with a general flavor mix percentage of 0.25-%2 so as you can see there are a fuck ton of variables.

If I were you I would use a juice calculator from

http://e-liquid-recipes.com

And find the recipes you mentioned click the wrench tab and adjust the flavor percentage of the mix and up it by like %10-%20 mix them up and try it if it's still under flavored up it again until you reach the flavor you want

Try steeping without breathing.

Get a mixer to stir it up. If you don't have one, then use a drill. Mixing is way better than shaking. It might help. From reading your comments, your %s seem right on, so that's not what you should be worried about, but maybe try upping to 15%, but at least you are doing your math right.

You're new to mixing?

You're used to sucralose. These juices aren't sickeningly sweet, and that's why you can't taste anything.

Force yourself to vape the juices for a week, and you'll start tasting it.

I find experimenting is my best friend in doing DIY. Lots of 10ml bottles and test and retest. I found some great flavors for all day vapes and some meh flavors

If you are new to DIY it is going to take a little time for your tastes buds to adjust. Most commercial liquids are over flavored due to the majority of people using subohm tanks with wide open airflow. I suggest closing your airflow down a bit or even trying a flavor rda like a hadaly clone and of course giving yourself some time to acclimate to lighter flavors.

Invest in some scales, It'll make mixing more easy and accurate, I've been DIYing since about march, I always mix up new recipes in 10ml bottles to test out, once I'm happy with it, I'll mix up a 100ml

For a spot on lemon tart I recommend a one shot that works everytime mixed @ 15% [here] (https://www.bigjuiceuk.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=53_58&products_id=1223) buy it from [here] (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/bigjuiceuk/) with free delivery

Sorry missed that out but yes I do that every time too. I have even give some to friends to try and they have said the same thing "don't taste that strong"

I really am stumped?

have you tried just shake n vape? leaving the cap off for 4 weeks (while steeping) is probably letting out most of your flavor

Right so I'm sitting here and thought sod it!

I decided to up my percentages like so:

If it said 2% sweet strawberry and I put in 1m in for a 50ml mix l I topped it up to 2ml and did the same for all of the ingredients.

Just vaped it and it tasted much better! Not sure what it will be like in a few weeks but it can't get any worse (I hope lol)

I had the same problem. Turns out I had vapors tongue. Couldn't taste anything for nearly a week. But that was it, just a week. After 4 weeks of steeping it tasted too strong.

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