I've been making delicious recipes from this subreddit and other sites since January and its been great. So many awesome, scrumptious recipes out there! About 8 months later, I would mix up a 30 ml batch of something like Grack Juice and notice that the flavor would disappear A LOT by the time I get through half of the bottle. It would taste pretty flavorless and almost harsh. Anybody else experience this before? Tried 4 or 5 recipes and always have the same issue. By the time Im halway thru the bottle, the juice becomes rather tastless and harsher than when I started. Any help is appreciated!
sounds like vape tongue. olfactory fatigue. try switching up your flavors.
also, drink more water and eat something salty or sour then try it again. or get a tongue scraper... brush your teeth... suck on coffee beans... mouth wash..
if all else fails vape a mix with no flavoring added for a while.
Thanks, but definitely not vape tongue. I have 4 recent flavors I mixed up, and all 4 are very different and yet lack flavor in the same way. I have a batch of flavor left from one month ago and it tastes fine. I had 2 friends taste the recent batches and also agree that it tastes like nothing and are harsher. Its as if the VG and concentrates are not mixing/steeping fully. As if im getting a concentrate amount of sweetness in the beginning but i end up using all the flavor up.. Wonder if my PG/VG/NIC has gone stale or changed consistency..
What level nic are you using? Is your nic source kept in a dark, cool place, or deep freeze for extended storage? If you steep, how do you do it? If you are leaving caps off or open, chances are some of the "alcohol" notes of your flavors have evaporated. Very well could be over oxidization of the nicotine, which will give that harsher, peppery flavor to them (if your juice has turned a pink/orange hue). What ratio VG/PG do you use? PG is a better flavor carrier than VG, but it also thins the juice out. Maybe up your ratio on the PG side a bit?
These are just some random issues, not sure exactly the culprit. You say it's not vape tongue, but you'd be surprised. It happens in a matter of days for me now, where I cant taste flavors in my ADV. I switch to a small batch of menthol juice for a day or 2 and everything is right again. Hope you can figure it out!
Hey thanks for the response. Nic is perfectly clear and was never harsh before. I divided my nic into 5 small 30ml boston glass bottles with flat caps and put into freezer the day I got it. They are filled to the max and placed in a freezer bag. I use a single bottle at a time until fully emptied and use relatively low levels of nic (2 mg) always making small batches of 30 ml glass bottles. Most of my flavors are 30 ml plastic bottle orders of TFA and FA. I have 1 L of PG and 4L jug of PG that I store in a dark place at room temp. Most of my mixes are 80 VG /20 PG. Both look and smell fine like the day i got them. Ive been using the same setup for 8 months, istick Pico with 2 kanthal A1 coils at around 0.36 ohms that i have replaced several times with shiseido cotton since day 1. I mix by weight on an AWS scale using commercial grade culinary sauce bottles. MAybe it is a slight case of vape tongue! who knows, hasnt happened in 8 months really!
Some flavors get better overtime and others have a tendency to fade. The issues comes when you want to make a big batch of a flavor that fades or when you want to make a recipes that uses both ingredients that need a long steep and ingredients that tend to fade pretty quickly.
The solution I have been playing with, while still in its infancy, seems to be working pretty well. Its what I've been calling staged steeping.
There is two ways to approach this depending on whether or not you want to make small batches or large batches.
For small batches you'd mix it up as usual minus the flavor or flavors that fade, steep it for however long it needs, and then when its ready add in the other flavors, shake and vape.
For larger batches create your recipe and mix two bottles, one large one with everything minus the fading flavors, and another that is essentially a one shot of the remaining flavors. Steep the first as usual and then when you break it down into a 30ml or whatever add enough of your "base" to get to you desired amount minus the "one shot" and then top off with that. This way you can have a few hundred mils of well steeped stuff and just add the fading flavor(s) in small batches as needed.
So say you've got some flavors that are amazing at 1 week but horrible at 3 and you want to mix it with some flavors that are terrible at a week but amazing at a month. Add the first set and steep for 3 weeks and then add the rest and steep for 1 week. Then you've got all of your flavors at their peak.