I always charge friends $5 per 30ml, which seems to be the norm around here. I will sometimes lower the price a couple bucks if they get a 120 or larger, just so i dont have to make them juice as often lol.

For the scale, get the AWS LB-501. It is the most commonly used around here and for good reasons.

Hope this helps.

I calculated (and I mean, really calculated in a spreadsheet taking way to much time to do so) and it costs me $3.10 / 60mL bottle, $2.33 if they return the bottle (hahahahaha yeah right) so I charge $5 for 60mL / $10 for 120mL.

I am not factoring in my time, because:

• I enjoy mixing and I'd probably be at the workbench anyway
• They are my family / friends, or people close to them
• I'm not mixing in quantities where the cost of the materials impacts my budget / cashflow (I can afford to do it)

Since 60mL 'premium' juices can go for $18 - $25 in stores and most of these people are too lazy to order online, they really appreciate my prices.

At the end of the day, charge what you feel it's worth. I mean, don't rape them over a bottle of juice, but you don't have to give it away either!

Nicotine River is probably your best bet. They sell decent nicotine and have a lot of different brands.

Looking at DIYFS average percentages, you can probably bump it up a bit. Without having tried that concentrate I can only speak in general terms, but few concentrates stand well on their own. You can boost whatever aspect you want of it. Some FA Caramel, TFA Brown Sugar or even a tiny amount of FA Honey to enhance the caramel part, or some FA Fuji, FA Liquid Amber or any number of regular apple concentrates to add to the apple (or why not some FA Pear or Apricot?). As for adding sweetness, you should try to stick to sweet flavors primarily. Marshmallow will alter the taste a bit, EM could work but there's a high chance it will also mute the apple. Sucralose is basically like pouring sugar over everything, perhaps not really suitable for this and will wreak havoc on your coils.

¿Porque no los dos?

Try 3% Forest Fruit, 2% Custard, 1% Cream Fresh.

Maybe i don't get your question but...

www.e-liquid-recipes.com, sign up, create a new recipe. It'll tell you how much of each to put in based on what percentages you enter.

New recipes will be developed in % of each flavor. That can be converted to weight with an ejuice calculator when you go to mix

New Amsterdam vapes has a good couple of YouTube videos on the subject. Perfect for beginners.

You can remove the 'by weight' part from this question. I believe you want to know how to make original recipes.

I've asked variations of that question myself and searched far and wide for the answer -- and still the only answer I've come up with is 'trial and error.' You just have to mix shit and see what works.

Need more details. 70/30 isn't really high for today's atomizers. What's your setup and give us an example of a recipe that is causing you problems.

It might be high in sweetener. Juices that are super sweet don't wick well for me.

Try 50:50 and see f it makes a difference, did for me on my uwell crown. If not, yeah coil.

still need specific recipes or brands or we all gon say its your nic.

Could be the vanilla. I get a harsh metallic shit taste from any vanilla flavouring. Other people are more or less sensitive to different vanilla flavourings. Might be worth trying the vanilla on its own in just VG.

Premium means nothing except that they jack the price up for absolutely no reason. Premium isn't a measure of quality.

Been making my own for around 6 months now. Only last week I tried a few of my friends store bought juices. Every single one of them was just a sugar filled disaster

>after Vaping your own juices for a long period of time, have you tasted vendor made "Premuim" juices, and if so how were they?

Beyond sweet. So much sucralose I can't tell what other flavors they're using. It might as well just be 5% cap super sweet in VG. It made me sick.

>is it possible for your taste buds to become reacclimated to the taste of additives in said premium juices after not vaping​ them?

Yeah but the only additive you'll be finding in "premium" juice is sweetener. usually sucralose. if you keep vaping it you won't taste it as much.

No idea for part two.

Part 1: yeah. Bombies. Their shit is so good, even though the Nana clone is good, there's still many flavors I love from bombies that haven't been cloned. I'll buy them once in every blue moon

The juices I thought that sucked before I DIY'd still suck and the ones I thought were good are still good. They're just a tad "safer" to my taste buds now, because they're aiming for many people to like their juice. I like to take small chances in my mixes to change things up and make an intriguing flavor.

Never throw anything out. Just keep trying it once a week or so. Eventually it will either be good or you'll have vaped it all.

> Does the flavor purchasing ever end?

Kind of depends on what you're after with diy. If you just want cheap juice, you can find some recipes you like, and just keep making those. Start buying bigger bottles of the flavorings to cut costs a bit more.

If you're wanting to start creating your own recipes and get adventurous, I don't think that it does end. As long as manufacturers keep releasing new flavors, you'll want to try them to see what you can create with them.

I started out as the first type (except I created one recipe that I made for a year and a half) and now I'm more of the second. I end up placing like 2 flavor orders a week because I'm impulsive and not patient enough to do a wishlist and all that.

You could also put those 60 flavors you have on the Suggest a Recipe thread to get some ideas.

Steep them 1 month minimum or twice as long as is recommended, whichever is longer.

Not really. You're probably going to have to just make something else.

But what is it you're trying to make that needs LA Lemonade? Maybe someone could figure something out if they had the recipe and knew what else you have on hand to mix with it.

EM isn't a sweetner but it tastes sweet but it mutes mixes.

FLV Sweetness doesn't mute or gunk and is a all around good sweetener.

Nothing is going to sweeten like sucralose will but those two are your best bet. Honestly though, I just omit sucralose all together when a recipe calls for it. It's usually not necessary and if it is find a sweet flavoring for the mix instead. Using sucralose is just lazy.

I haven't tried their tobacco one ... It's difficult to mimic their flavors because each flavor uses a different balance of acids which further effects the flavor.

I'd give the tobacco pods a try but my girl mostly uses my juul and she likes the creme brulee and mango. It'll be weeks til I can try the bacco one. Hopefully someone who's tried it knows something I don't

I would say yes but personally that is too much custard for me. If you like the heavy eggy flavor then go for it. I like around 5%, assuming you have a decent atomizer for flavor. You'll need to steep it for 2 weeks to a month before it's going to be awesome.

The flavor might be slightly boring without a fruit but worth a shot.

Vapable but one-sided, you should consider obtaining a strawberry flavor to go with that. Drop the custard to 4-5% though, 8% is too high. While you can vape it right away, it will taste much better after two weeks.

Absolutely. It'd be a nice simple vanilla custard

Cap by itself at 10% is very vapable. I keep some of that around all the time for when I don't want much flavor, just smooth and mellow. Also use it to reset my coils when I had a strong flavor in there, as it mixes well with anything.

You just need to shake it very well. It doesn't need to sit for the nicotine to distribute

If I'm not mistaken, Chef carries them under a slightly different name, for whatever reason:

https://www.chefsflavours.co.uk/116-lauren-s-flavours

I haven't tried FW Blue Raspberry, but this looks like it could be good. I'm not a fan of TFA's Blackcurrant, try INW or MB if you want a more realistic berry, but TFA's may work here in a way that they wouldn't.

Anything citrus tends to mess with flavors. It can make them pop, it can mute them, I always leave that out while trying things out so I can tell for sure what it does. When in doubt, leave it out until you're happy with the profile, then try again.

Same with sweetener, it has some muting properties that can inhibit development. It's usually better to use inherently sweet ingredients, as a lot of concentrates already contain sweetener and they stack. But when you're happy with the profile and feel it could use some more sweetness, then it's a good time to use it.

For strawberry, you'll want TFA Strawberry or FA Strawberry, I think those would work best in this profile. TFA for a more candy like berry, FA for a more realistic.

Yea, what you're making sounds good and I like your ideas. Don't be too concerned with what is the "right direction", that is entirely up to you and what you prefer. Be persistent, make small changes, don't be afraid to try new things and you'll end up with something you'll really enjoy.

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Never tried a Red Bull recipe, but I've heard FA Mad Fruit is pretty close. I'd start with that and see if what you think it needs, if anything, to get closer.

It's always based on whatever flavors you have in your mix. If you have CAP Vanilla Custard and Strawberry in a mix, it's going to require the full steep for the full flavor to come through. Just because Strawberry is in there, doesn't mean that it's completely ready to go.

Yes, most are PG. You'll obviously know if it's VG.

More PG does not give you more flavor. It is a better flavor carrier than VG, though. Higher PG amounts (50 and above) aren't really suitable for today's setups. You certainly can, but depending on your gear, high PG will cause leaking and will burn. 70/30 is just a decent balance between PG and VG. I myself usually mix 65 VG/35 PG.

I have always mixed at 60vg. I don't notice a difference if it is 70, but higher than that is muted.

As to why you see 70/30 more, maybe that is a good balance for either a tank or a dripper?

really depends on the setup of the vape itself. I think the popularity of sub ohm builds is what led to a high 70% VG to become the standard, but you can always try it yourself. PG tends to give a harsher throat hit, so I mix mine at the lowest 60% vg, but I do notice a stronger flavor with less VG and more PG, it's all a matter of personal taste. Another thing about lower the VG, you don't really need as much flavoring, the VG tends to mute flavors which is why there are so many recipes with max VG and like 15% flavoring.

Which recommendations are you referring to?

Recipes are always listed as a percentage. Calculators do this math for you. Drop/tip size is irrelevant if you are mixing by weight

Vg gives vapour, pg gives throat hit. Higher vg means more vapour

FYI the accepted convention is VG/PG, people see 80/20 and think 80% VG to 20% PG.

/u/sirfletchalot nailed it. Be aware if you're actually vaping 20% VG to 80% PG right now, and plan on turning that completely around, the resulting mix will be much thicker and may perform differently in your device / tank. Thinner juice (higher PG percentage) flows and wicks much more easily.

Good Luck!

What are you using beakers for? When I do big quantity, I just squirt everything in to a condiment bottle, shake the shit out of it, steep, then squirt in to 30 or 60 ml bottle for daily use.

TFA's Strawberry offerings are not strong flavors. They need support to push them forward. And using Strawberry Ripe by itself, especially at 10%, is odd. Try RF SC Strawberry at 2% and Strawberry Ripe at 2%. It's my favorite strawberry right now. I also recommend picking up JF Sweet Strawberry to complete that sweet sweet Strawberry orgy.

I'm not an expert, so this is just a thought... all flavorings I've ever purchased come in LDPE plastic bottles. I don't think there's anything to be worried about.

FLV Cream

I second FLV. Just stay low, 1% or less to start, and give it a full week steep before adjusting %

Thank you I'll try that. I just like a really smooth inhale.

250 ml * 18 mg/ml = 4500 mg nic total
4500 mg / 12 mg/ml = 375 ml total amount
375 ml - 250 ml = 125 ml of 0 mg base to add

For flavorings, have you tried Chef's Flavours?

Yes, some people have reported that menthol smooths over throat hit for them.

If it's shaken enough, do whatever you want with it

This happens with INW on a lot of their concentrates. Something to do with the air bubbles settling after it's shaken. I wouldn't pay any mind to it.

Yes, better to break down nicotine regardless of the base it's suspended in.

Cool dark place works for raw VG and PG. I store all my nicotine in the freezer.

I'm not in the UK, but I've heard good things about Lucemill.

edit: they sell 72mg VG Nicotine

5% total flavor percentage is probably not going to be enough.

As a serious custard vape lover I can assure you that u/EdibleMalfunction is correct. I've mixed up so many different fruit/custard combos I've lost count.

And only recently have I discovered u/ID-10T simple sugar cookie recipe which is amazing, I'm on my second batch already and this one I've added a hint of CAP juicy lemon to it.

What kind of hardward setup are you using? Hardware is a very important variable.

Hardly anyone does and it doesn't make that big of a difference.

TPA Dragonfruit is actually not a Dragonfruit flavor.

You probably do not want to use FW Cancer Cake. You'll want JF Yellow cake.

CAP Vanilla Custard will give you some Vanilla, but there's no egginess involved with that. It's more of an American pudding like Custard.

Haven't tried it, but you can probably combine it with chocolate, nuts, or any number of creams or coffee flavors. FA Tiramisu perhaps. Here's a suggestion with absinthe. Start with a single flavor test at 5% and steep for two weeks, apparently the steep is vital.

As for saline, you can buy it at a pharmacy, but make sure it's just salt and water, no preservatives. You can make your own with 0.9% table salt and PG, it'll dissolve if you just shake it now and then, no heat required unless you're impatient. There will be impurities however, so don't make a habit out of it, and it will spoil pretty fast so don't make a large amount. Also wrecks coils.

It might need to be adjusted to better fit the rest of the recipe, but the only way to know how much and which direction to adjust it is to try it. Looking at the average use % is an excellent starting place.