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Why don't many people use Oneshots?
submitted about 8 years ago by greezyweezy

...I mean compared to people who mix their own flavours.

Is there a problem with oneshots? What are the benefits of going full DIY?

Thanks

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12 points
 
by ElBradabout 8 years ago

IMHO, a oneshot has already been mixed, whereas mixing my own, I can control every aspect of the flavour.

Sure, making your own can be a lot of guess and test, but once it's perfected, it's dialled in to exactly the way my tastebuds want it.

With a oneshot, you can still add a little here and there...but you can't ever reduce the amount of a specific ingredient.

9 points
 
by mpkeithabout 8 years ago

I've purchased one of the oneshots... Rhodonite. It has a bunch of flavors that I don't/didn't have. I think I had 2 of the 8 or 9 the recipe calls for. Although I wanted some new inspiration for my experiments I didn't want to buy a bunch of flavors that I may or may not use (I have plenty of those as is). Also, I can mix it up according to the recommended percentage and know that what I've mixed is what somebody (with actual skill) intended. Lastly it is convenient, if I'm in a hurry or feeling particularly lazy I don't have to gather several flavors and measure etc... One bottle of flavoring and I'm done. I think they're a cool idea and worth it especially if one is trying to save a few bucks, is starting out with diy, or just needs a little inspiration for something new.

3 points
 
by Binsky89about 8 years ago

Rhodonite is definitely worth buying the flavors for. I'm vaping it right now.

2 points
 
by LineUpandW8about 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

I tried rhodonite but I think I messed up which raspberry I got. It calls for the "INW raspberry koncentrate" and I bought INW raspberry. Tasted like disgusting cough medicine.

EDIT: sorry I meant INW, not IWA. Long shift on a Sunday.

1 points
 
by Binsky89about 8 years ago

How long did you let it steep for? It's not great until it's sat for a week.

1 points
 
by Ephelusabout 8 years agoFrugivore

IWA? I've always used INW for Inawera. Rhodonite is a good shake and vape, but it's sooo much better after an overnight steep, and perfect (IMO) after 3 days.

1 points
 
by RinVapesabout 8 years ago

Pretty sure those are both the same. Koncentrate is just the Polish/European (whatever) spelling... I personally love INW raspberry... but to each their own.

8 points
 
by skivianabout 8 years ago

oneshots are the worst of both worlds. only slightly cheaper than just buying pre-mix, with almost all the hassle of DIY mixing.

8 points
 
by Apexifiedabout 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

> only slightly cheaper

Most of them I've seen are 7.99-9.99 and make 200-300ml (or more) Even cheap juice is twice the price for half the volume. It's actually only slightly more expensive than mixing it yourself, in a lot of cases, depending on quantity of each ingredient you buy.

But if you already have all the flavors, it's definitely cheaper to just mix them up.

4 points
 
by grrrkgrrrlabout 8 years ago

I agree with you on the price. The thing is not that oneshots are more expensive (because they are still relatively cheap), but my dislike for them is that they're inflexible. If I have the oneshot, I can make that juice. But if I have the independent flavours I can make different juices, try the recipe with different percentages, etc. If someone just wants that particular flavour and they're certain that's all they want to vape they might as well get the one shot.

3 points
 
by Apexifiedabout 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

And I agree with you. One shots are like a nice transition from commercial juice for both the consumer and the creators and I like the idea of both being pulled in to the DIY side of things. It seems like a win win; the companies get to keep the recipe under lock and key and the consumer gets to save some money while also being introduced to how simple DIY can be.

6 points
 
by dominicaldazeabout 8 years ago

one positive point that i haven't seen yet, is that if you like the looks of a recipe but dont own the ingredients (yet) you can get a one-shot to see if you like the recipe or not, before buying the component concentrates

5 points
 
by clay3rabout 8 years ago

Is a one shot one flavor or a pre-mixed flavor that you add to your base?

5 points
 
by psykiabout 8 years agoMixologist

It's basically a premade juice where you just add nic and your base. I suppose you can change the concentration and add your own ingredients but you can't change anything about the actual recipe. Frankly I don't really see the point, it's just one step removed from buying juice in the store but you have to do the work to get it.

9 points
 
by pencilbaggerabout 8 years agoFrugivore

I've bought a couple of the diy or die ones because I just wanted to try it to see if it would be something I would like without investing in 8-10 flavors or whatever. I would never use them exclusively, but they can be useful to get a feel for a recipe without buying every flavor required.

4 points
 
by clay3rabout 8 years ago

Thank you! I learned things today!

5 points
 
by DonObliviousabout 8 years ago

I'm a big fan of them. Not something I personally use, but I think they're a good thing to have on the market. Either as a "first step into mixing your own juice" or as a "No Mr. FDA, this isn't for Ecigs, it's a Beverage Flavor!"

(price needs to readjust down to beverage flavoring prices to make that a reasonable loophole, i.e. we bought multiple Cherry Flavoring 4x1 gallon cases at a time at Pepsi)

My first "DIY" juice, in 2009'ish, was simply a weak nicotine juice and a bottle of "mint" flavoring.

5 points
 
by Llamatron2112about 8 years ago

I think lots of people use oneshots for the price, and control over PG/VG & nic levels, myself included. But there's little reasons why oneshots users would subscribe or participate in a DIY subreddit.

In my case I tried to DIY but I'm not methodical enough to really elaborate some recipes. So I switched to oneshots, and pretty much never looked back.

It's just a step between full DIY and juices: cheap enough to try stuff without risking to loose too much money, and having recipes made by much more competent people. The best of both worlds !

4 points
 
by mlNikonabout 8 years ago

One shots are gaining popularity. I think they are great for people who don't take mixing too seriously and just want something cheap to vape or for new mixers just getting into the game. I bet we start seeing more of them.

4 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngabout 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Starting out, I would have probably bought these, but once you get into creating your own profile and piling up flavors, it is nice to have the flexibility to make a tweak or two, or just develop something yourself. Today I wouldn't buy them, as I typically have the ingredients for most recipes already, minus florals which I have little desire to try.

4 points
 
by Smeggywulffabout 8 years ago

I diy a lot, but I still order a one shot from OSDIY: Lucky Shot. It's $30 for 16 oz which is pretty cheap.

It's very good on its own and I like it best at 7% flavoring, so one giant bottle goes a looooong way. It can be changed in subtle ways, adding caramel, hazelnut, coffee, etc does really well. I mix it at 6% with 1% caramel and .5% hazelnut and that's what my husband vapes with his morning coffee.

That said, nearly all one shots are a waste of money. I've seen many at $30 for 60 ml and that's just outrageous to me. I've found a few that I love, but the prices tend to be awful. OSDIY is definitely the best value I've found, and I suggest them to new diyers.

2 points
 
by twoambienabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Full DIY is almost certainly cheaper. I've never bought a one-shot but it has to be, they are inserting a middle man and likely multiple layers of middle-men.

2 points
 
by macKdittyabout 8 years ago

One On One just released some one shots and they want 12.99 for enough to mix 120ml, plus the VG/PG and the bottle. That seems kind of steep, but if it were closer to the price of what it might cost to make a 15% flavor mix, I would do it for convenience. I think I average about $3 per 120ml including the bottle, so for me it's a price issue.

6 points
 
by djrider69about 8 years ago

One on One is just overpriced in general IMO...

2 points
 
by Blaizefedabout 8 years ago

It really depends on pricing. I have a one shot from Flavour Depot (I am in the UK) that I buy from time to time. It costs about double what normal flavouring costs, but thats still pretty cheap. I mix it at 10% despite them recommending 15% and that also keeps the cost down where I am willing to use it. I have tried to clone it, with no luck, and just gave up and buy it premade. As long as the price stays within reason, I don't beat myself up about it.

That said, I have seen others that are way more expensive, and it can get to a point where I can find juices fully premade for less than some one shots.

And then of course you lose out on the benefit of making it yourself and adjusting things. I DIY mostly because it is so much cheaper so this doesn't really rub me the wrong way, but some guys just on principle don't want anything done for them. I get it, but I am not one of those guys. I don't taste juice nearly as well as I used too, so a lot of the subtleties of these mixes are lost on me. As such, I just use recipes I find online, and when I found a one shot that I could taste for a change, I keep coming back to it.

2 points
 
by Qudozabout 8 years ago

I buy shit tonnes of one shots. My cupboards are bursting with them.

2 points
 
by Silba93about 8 years agoMixologist

One shots are more popular than diy mixing by a long shot. You're not seeing the whole picture if you think otherwise.

I don't use one shots because they are usually shit and i can't control the recipe, I exclusively make and vape only my own recipes unless im working with someone.

1 points
 
by JohnLaCuentaabout 8 years ago

They're no fun, expensive and harder to tinker with.

1 points
 
by SilverBackGuerillaabout 8 years ago

Where is a good site to get them from?

2 points
 
by aerixeitzabout 8 years ago

I don't know about any other than enyawreklaw's mixes which are available at ecigexpress.com- that being said I've never used one shots personally, I've just seen that his are sold there through watching diy or die videos every now and then.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Ecig express, Gremlin DIY, and Chefs Flavours

2 points
 
by ceedee99ukabout 8 years ago

The OneStop DIY Shop have a good selection of their own brand and Chefs Flavours one-shots.

1 points
 
by hobospellsabout 8 years ago

If you're in the UK or don't mind paying the shipping overseas, Vape Domain are really good.

1 points
 
by LimeDriveabout 8 years ago

I find single testing flavors creates better recipes and fun times for your taste buds.

1 points
 
by marshwizardabout 8 years ago

I've bought a few one-shots. It's a bit of a gamble. Of the six I've bought only 2 were any good with the rest being either too sweet, completely flavourless or totally unvapeable due to tasting like vomit. I'll give a shout out to the good ones, Dark Stars Kanzi and Drip Hacks Verdandi (6 week steep on that baby).

1 points
 
by mkell43about 8 years ago

I think one shots are under marketed to many folks who vape. They can, yeah just can, reduce the amount of money you're paying for liquids. There is a company called Central Vapors that sells premixes of all of their flavors. What I did with them is order some of their sample packs, pick out the flavors I like and buy the premixes. 10ml's are <$4. Sure someone would have to pick up the nic/vg/pg, but overall it reduces the cost of liquid without needing to have all of the equipment and mixing as much yourself.

1 points
 
by Ernie_is_deadabout 8 years ago

I have not found a tasty oneshot yet.

1 points
 
by VAPORMARKabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I've been mixing for about 2 years. Oneshots are not attractive to me in the slightest. There may be others like me.

1 points
 
by EJuiceMakersabout 8 years agoMixologist

My view on one shots is you have to find brands you actually like. It takes a little shopping at first but once you find an adv it is awesome. I vape my own one shot all the time cause it takes less than two mins for me to whip up 120ml

If they are shitty one shots you are not going to enjoy it, but once you find winners that are a great way to take a day off from mixing. It's really about finding advs that work then you are set. And I'm someone who mixes almost daily and released one shots in UK and US.

And sometimes if you don't have the flavors on hand the one shot under $10 makes better sense. Also for a new mixer who wants to see how a good recipe is supposed to taste it's a great way to see where dedicated mixing can lead.

1 points
 
by RinVapesabout 8 years ago

Probably don't know they exist. They're relatively new... OR maybe they don't understand what they are? I would have loved to have one shots available when I started mixing. They are perfect for beginners or when you just don't feel like gathering 5-10 different flavors.

1 points
 
by fridge13about 8 years ago

I do both. One shots are good for quick easy juice. And ive tried plenty that were awskme and some that are crap.

But nothing beats mixing from scratch and having controll over what your bulding

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