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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of August 14, 2017
submitted about 8 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by grrrkgrrrlabout 8 years ago

Can I just take a moment to talk about our lord and saviour Grack juice? I sadly don't know who else to talk to about this. This is the first juice ever that I: •vaped 30ml without changing flavour • straight up proceeded to make a 100ml bottle of

Seriously, I only made 30ml as a biggest bottle before but with this juice, I knew what's up.

Bonus if you can recommend for me equally awesome stuff for my arsenal.

4 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Sounds like /u/philosaphucker would be the best person to recommend something to you, since he is the creator of Grack Juice.

Or you might just want to pick another of his recipes and give it a try: https://alltheflavors.com/users/Philosaphucker. I'm huge fan of Detox and Bamanaya.

Or try one of these Grack Juice remixes:

Prack

Slack

Quack

Wack

Galaxy Grape

If you just have an affinity for strange and strangely addictive stuff that's hard to put down, you might want to check out

Abuela

Terrorhawk

Fiestas & Fiascos

Coop's Kiwi Bourbon

Mango Beauregard

If it's a grape thing, Grape Ice Cream

Or if it's the cactus, in addition to all those Philosaphucker jump offs, you might want to look at Prickly Victory

Or if you just want something chilly, Sweet Summer Chill

3 points
 
by grrrkgrrrlabout 8 years ago

A great list which I will be working through. Thank you! You're a great asset to this community.

3 points
 
by Philosaphuckerabout 8 years agoWinner: Best Recipe of 2016 - Grack Juice

I am happy that you found a juice that is worth mixing in volume :)
/u/ID10-T is an absolute beast at compiling information for us, in addition to his many other talents. Here is one he missed from this month's recipe thread: A Purplish Choke from /u/nikareijii is pretty decent fan-fiction. I will review it sometime shortly.

1 points
 
by nikareijiiabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Woah I'm excited! At the same time I found a way to give that choke recipe a little more of an identity, so I am actively working on a version 2, that would be less of a funfic and more of a spinoff!

3 points
 
by UristMcHollandabout 8 years ago

I'm looking at getting some glass bottles to mix in, is there a real difference between the colors or is it just aesthetic?

3 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

Amber and Cobalt bottles may provide marginal protection from light. The difference isn't huge and you should be storing nicotine and juice away from light anyway :)

3 points
 
by UristMcHollandabout 8 years ago

Good point, thanks

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Brown does absorb some UV radiation, green or blue is just for show.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Green absorb radium radiation, blue absorb Cherenkov radiation

1 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Good to know :)

3 points
 
by GordoooMantecaabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I'm looking for a good "Tobacco Base" for Fruits, one guy told me i can use DK Tobacco Base (TPA). I have this flavors: Strawberry Ripe (TPA), Cherry Extract Flavor (TPA), Coconut Extra (TPA) and Forest Fruit (FA).

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

I'd personally stay away from the TFA stuff. I don't have much experience with fruits on top of tobaccos, but I'd maybe try FLV Native, FLV Cured, FE Captain, INW Black for Pipe (this one is a bit strong and smoky, if that's something that interests you. Could probably work with cherry), INW Cavendish works well with the Coconut Extra with Kentucky Bourbon, INW Am4a might work well in a fruit mix, I could see FE Black Mile Plus being good with strawberry, INW S'Camel (aka Dromedary), INW Tobacco Symphony.

3 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

I read on here that you can use 0.5% of FW Hazelnut in a strawberry mix to bring out the macerated strawberry flavor without getting a nutty taste, but I bought FA Hazelnut by mistake. From what I understand, FA is a lot stronger than FW flavors. Is there any concentration I can use this in as a replacement in a strawberry mix, or should I leave out the FA Hazelnut altogether?

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

It's not going to do the same thing that FW Hazelnut does to strawberries, unfortunately.

But there are plenty of recipes you can use it to make or use as examples of how to use it:

Loup Garou

Dogma

Banana Nut Bread

Creamy Cuban

Nuts & Cream

Strawberry Jam Toast

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Strawberry Jam Toast sounds awesome though, thanks for the link.

3 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

Dat jam toast. FA Hazelnut is dry and I used it to bring out that part of the toast.

FW Hazelnut is just bomb as fuck and please buy it. It's creamy and malty and delicious. An essential for sure and one of the first flavors I bought in 4oz size. Really dope with strawberry and with any milk type recipe you can think of.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Not a new mixer but have a question not worth making a post about. Have you ever had sweet corn ice cream?

Let's say you created a recipe for a perfect sweet corn ice cream juice. But the problem is, sweet corn ice cream in vape from is nice and all, but it's kinda boring. What would you want on or in that ice cream to make it more exciting?

Nuts? Some kind of berry sauce? Caramel? Butterscotch Marshmallow creme? Some kind of herb or spice? Citrus zest?

5 points
 
by NB3000about 8 years ago

I have 2 get my 1st ever post out of the way sooner or later, so here's my suggestion. Lime and mango and/or pineapple...with sweet corn - it'd kinda be a tropical sweetcorn relish. I think. I'm just in the "studying phase" of diy so I apologize if that sounds outlandish. I have no idea what I'm talking about for ejuice, but I just had some fresh mn sweet corn prepared like that & it was fantastic.

Good luck!

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Thank you! I'm not sure how well Mango would work with it; tasting it, seems like they'd mix together too much and get weird. But lime seems like a fantastic idea!

4 points
 
by chewingpaintchipsabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Maybe a nice steak?

3 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

It would make a nice dessert vape after a thick juicy steak even without any additions

3 points
 
by chewingpaintchipsabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

That's exactly what came to my mind first lol

3 points
 
by chewingpaintchipsabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

But seriously, from the limited research I have done on sweet corn ice cream, they seem to be using a lot of berry syrups. So maybe like a nice blackberry sauce to go with it?

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Call me crazy, but...

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You're crazy. But I know of a couple of tobaccos that might fit very nicely with that sweet corn and ice cream.

3 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

I think caramel would work ? Blackberry, raspberry, or dark berries maybe

3 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCabout 8 years ago

TPA Butter, some Saline, and a top note of crunchy sweetness would be to die for in a sweet corn ice cream. I've not yet had a DIY juice that has properly balanced a flavorful mix of sweet and savory. What about a fried sweet corn ice cream?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I was leaning toward just adding some CAP Harvest Berry and maybe some Liquid Amber but fried sweet corn ice cream sounds even better, I'll give that a shot too, for sure, thank you.

2 points
 
by twoambienabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

sounds like Experiment One and i wouldn't add anything to it, it's great as is. if maybe you're missing whatever it has: try frosted flakes/corn flakes or bakery.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Never tried Experiment One

3 points
 
by Turbonatorchargedabout 8 years ago

So I fell victim to one of ELR recipes. I need help salvaging it, otherwise all 120mls are going to a waste. It was one of the recipes that looked good on paper.

The recipe is

*Butter Cream (CAP) 5%

*VBIC(TPA) 5%

*VC v1 (CAP) 5%

I am thinking of using it as a base but what would pair good with these three flavors. In fruit, I have Strawberry ripe, strawberry, kiwi, watermelon, apple and grape.

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

That much butter cream might be hard to tame, but I would let it steep for a week or two, then use it as a base like you say, at around 5% maybe. Strawberry will work, kiwi and apple too if you reduce the base a bit, or a combination of them. Don't toss it out, I'm sure you can find a use for it, although 120 ml will last forever.

3 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

Gotta cut that buttercream down, a lot. It's one of those flavors I don't go above 2% with, also 5% of TPA vbic and CAP VC just seems like there's too much. Maybe you should cut it in half by adding more PG and VG, then try throwing in some strawberries or something

3 points
 
by Turbonatorchargedabout 8 years ago

You were absolutely right. I mixed another 30 ml batch with 25% of base I already had steeped for 4-5 weeks. Added 3% of strawberry ripe and it's a decent vape. I am actually enjoying it now. Well, now I got pre-mixed base that will last me a while as /u/leapinglabrats mentioned. I love this sub is all I gotta say.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

how old is it?

that mix could be good if you waited a while. i dont have butter cream though. idk uhm take 10ml of vg and/or pg and add 10ml of that recipe.

if its good s snv or in a week then dilute it all. otherwise dont make 120ml samples in the future.

3 points
 
by Turbonatorchargedabout 8 years ago

It's about 4-5 weeks old. Cool I will try your suggestion. I will also search some recipes that use those 3 flavors as base. I usually make 10-30 ml tests but I was mixing a few custard recipes and thought what the heck! Definitely lesson learned.

3 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

Hmm damn dilution may be your best bet.

Also lol I noticed /u/leapinglabrats /u/hashslingingslashur And i, all answered your question within 2 minutes of each other yesterday.

I thought that was funny but didn't have time to point it out

3 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

I am unsure about creams. I've hated literally every cream profile e-liquid I've tried up to this point, but they've all been commercial juices.

I'm only just getting into DIY, so I wonder if I could make a cream I actually enjoy since I have total control over what goes in the recipe?

The question I have to ask myself: Do I hate creams in commercial e-liquids, or do I hate creams in general?

I got into DIY because even outside of creams I've been unable to vape more than 1-2ml of 90% of the juice I've purchased, only finding 2-3 ADVs out of maybe 90-120 juices I've tried. Maybe it really is only commercial creams I hate?

Cheap nicotine, garbage flavorings, oceans of sweeteners, specific flavorings I am unaware I hate, it could be any number of things that make me dislike the creams I've tried.

I love Apple Waffle from GSV, so that inspires at least a little hope for me, even though it's not really creamy, it is a far cry from my usual fruit/candy vapes.


#What would you recommend I do?

Is there a simple, highly regarded, impossible to fuck up cream recipe I can try that will help me determine if I actually hate creams? Absolutely not banana though. Anything banana flavored except the fruit itself and actual baked goods makes me dry heave. Probably not strawberry either.

I've got a sneaking suspicion that I am a strawberry non-taster, and I'm still in the process of finding a strawberry blend/combination I can actually enjoy. I've got pretty much every strawberry flavor arriving Friday that I plan to start single-flavor testing on.

3 points
 
by twoambienabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I'm also new and also very picky. What I'm doing, and I think it's working well and logical, is focusing not on trying to like flavors I hate -- but instead focusing on those few that I know I like. I love butterscotch in commercial juices, so I buy every Buttescotch flavor I can find, on a quest to make amazing (to me) Butterscotch juices.

I also like custards and cookies -- so I'm doing the same with those.

I hate fruity commercial juices. I'm not trying figure out if all the fruity juices I tried were just the creator or I hate fruity flavors. To be honest I don't really care which it is right now. Maybe later I'll try and create a fruity juice I actually like but for the time being I'm focused on what I already know that I like.

tl;dr focus on what you know you like, not what you don't like.

2 points
 
by noahdblevinsabout 8 years ago

Get a variety of cream flavors in small bottles and flavor test them. That is the only way you will know. Try a couple marshmallows too.

1 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Good advice, thanks. You're pretty much spot on here. I guess I was just being lazy, lmao.

3 points
 
by mj72about 8 years ago

please help with my 1st recipe ever

is this a good mix? valus are good? steeping time?

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1787086/sweet+custard+cigar

sweet custard cigar

Ingredient|% :---|---: Caramel v2 (CAP)|4 Cigar Passion (FA)|2 MTS Vape Wizard (FA)|1 Sweet Cream (CAP)|3 Vanilla Custard v2 (CAP)|4

Flavor total: 14%

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Have you mixed and tried this? 8% of v2 flavors might be a bit much. Will most definitely increase the steep time. Probably about a month. I would personally shoot a little lower on everything except the cigar. Maybe like Caramel @ 1.5%, Sweet Cream @ 1%, Custard @ 3%, and drop the MTS. MTS isn't really a "first recipe" type of additive. I think in 2.5 years of mixing I've used it for the benefit of a recipe once.

Or if you've already tried this and like it, just rock with it.

1 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

I've only been mixing for a week now, but I've already used one additive (TFA Sweetener) in a small amount to great effect. How do I know if I'm "getting ahead of myself" so to speak?

1 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Best thing to do is just research. Very rarely will I pick up a flavor or additive that hasn't been discussed here. If I can't find it here, it's most likely been discussed on ECF or ELR.

As far as MTS goes, it is used to kind of mute high notes in a mix and make it all blend together. I'd imagine that your recipe shouldn't really need it since you've got the vanilla and cream, which should make it pretty well rounded and full tasting already. Adding MTS will end up muting things for you.

The one time I've used it was in a recipe that had some clove and cardamom, which was a bit too intense and I couldn't really taste my base, but dropping the percentages they ended up getting a bit lost. The MTS calmed them down to where they were still on top, but they blended with the base and it all tasted like one juice instead of a bunch of random stuff thrown together. If that makes sense.

2 points
 
by Amd241997about 8 years ago

I've never mixed my own juice before, but I do know the basic concept. I'm looking to start mixing my own to save even more money (I currently only buy other people's diy's) and possibly sell as well, if I can mix good enough. I'm looking to mainly do basic fruit flavors (blue raz, strawberry cream, watermelon Apple) nothing too complex, but easy enough for me to do that others will enjoy. Any tips you experienced mixers could give me would be awesome.

Some questions I have to start off with:

What's the best and cheap nicotine to use? Ex. I was looking into Nude but they seem a little pricey

Can I use any pg/vg? Ex. Store bought from Walmart?

Where's a good place to get deals on concentrates? What brands are best but still inexpensive?

What gear should I invest in to start off with?

Goal: to sell 120 ml chubby gorillas for $20-$25 a piece and profit by at least $10

Thank you guys again! Happy mixing!

2 points
 
by Apexifiedabout 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

The best and cheap? You have to pick one of those when it comes to nic. A happy middle ground would be NicSelect and a retailer that sells a lot so it's always fresh (NicotineRiver is probably the cheapest reseller)

You can use any USP VG/PG but buying it online will typically be cheaper because you'll be able to buy a larger quantity. Tractor Supply sells PG but it's $26-$29/gallon vs $17/gallon at NR.

No one can tell you what the best flavors are and the vendors we all use have varying prices and selections that make it almost impossible to pick just one. Between BCF and ECX you have nearly everything covered for selection. Gremlin has a lot of smaller size samples to minimize your investment while trying a lot of flavors and places like Heartland, NicRiver and WizardLabs typically have better deals on larger size bottles.

Get a scale (LB501) from Amazon and go read the sidebar a few times. No one is going to want to buy your juice unless you're good at creating recipes and you won't get good at that without investing time doing research and testing your flavors individually.

1 points
 
by Amd241997about 8 years ago

Thanks for the info. I'm just getting started so we'll see where this goes. I'm picky about juice, so if I like what I make then others should to. Gonna start off selling to people at work and then hopefully branch out to reddit. Again, thanks.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

> I'm picky about juice, so if I like what I make then others should to.

Exactly how I feel, to be honest. I hate 90-95% of pretty much all commercial juice out there, which is what led me to DIY now. If I can eventually mix something that ends up being an absolute ADV, there's no reason to believe it's not at least on par with some of the best commercial juice out there.

On the other hand though, I wouldn't really be comfortable selling something that wasn't an original recipe. With the thousands of publicly shared recipes, and the thousands of far more experienced DIYers out there, I feel that's a long, long way off for me if it even happened.

2 points
 
by coop34about 8 years ago

I don't usually push a kit, but this one looks ok for a new mixer. Optional: scale, but highly recommended.

Pick your flavors for tried and true recipes like Strap-On or one of it's many variants.

God Milk

Blue Voodoo clone hat is an oldie goldie for that profile (I haven't created a better one).

If you like the hobby,I recommend resupplying nic from either Nude(slow but worth it) or Carolina (expensive but fast). PG/VG from Essential Depot, concentrates and empty bottles from Bull City Flavors.

The sidebar on this subreddit is chock full of helpful advice too, be sure to check that.

Welcome!

3 points
 
by Amd241997about 8 years ago

Thank you! You are fucking awesome! I'll be sure to check all of that out. I'll most likely buy the cheaper stuff to experiment with and then once I'm confident, I'll jump for the better stuff to sell with. This is completely new to me, which is why I asked here first, so thank you for helping me out.

1 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

Check out Bulk Apothecary, I bought a gallon jug each of pg & VG for $30 including shipping

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

What's a better concentrate to use to try to bring out strawberry, FW Hazelnut or TFA Dragonfruit? Could you use both?

Also, for my little Nautilus 2 that I use high nic juice in, I'd really like to make a sweet-ish mint candy with an icy finish to it. By sweet-ish, I mean that you can obviously tell it's a mint candy and not just straight up listerine/toothpaste/unflavored menthol.

Thanks!

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Dragonfruit, absolutely. Hazelnut isn't really used to bring out flavors, but more to add some complexity and thickness to grains or creams.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Thanks! I'm brand new to DIY, but I know that dragonfruit is a good emulsifier. I just read on another thread recently that a few people used FW Hazelnut at 0.5% in a strawberry mix that sent the the strawberry flavor into a macerated strawberry. Sounded interesting.

3 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCabout 8 years ago

As a somewhat former non-taster of strawberries, Hazelnut (FW) brings out strawberry flavor MUCH better for me. Dragonfruit does just barely allow some more top notes to peak through, but only with the "seedy" strawberries if that makes sense.

2 points
 
by medi3val5about 8 years ago

I have a recipe that tastes GREAT but is too... "rich".. I guess is the best word. It feels both too "thick" in my mouth and too "rich," to the point that I almost feel a little sick after vaping it for a little while. It can be a little cloying. Would I just dilute it with more VG to tone it down a little bit? Also, this is my first DIY recipe, so maybe I'm just getting used to made-at-home??

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

What's the recipe?

2 points
 
by medi3val5about 8 years ago

Sorry, here it is: http://tjek.nu/r/ed9e

RyD2 clone:

  • Nicotine juice 6 %

  • PG dilutant 8%

  • VG dilutant 74%

  • AX Hazelnut (TPA) 3%

  • Bavarian (TPA) 2%

  • Brown Sugar (TPA) 1%

  • RY4 Double (TPA) 6%

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Oh good lord. That hurts my eyes. Post recipes here in percentages, and add spaces. Otherwise the link will suffice.

How long have you been steeping that?

2 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCabout 8 years ago

That brown sugar needs a good steep at that %.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

wtf ever happened to /u/crappy_guitarist ?

I miss 'em

3 points
 
by crappy_guitaristabout 8 years ago"I Bet I Could Clone That"

He ded

2 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

lost in the sauce.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0-F88c6Hrk

howve you been mane?

2 points
 
by VaultToastabout 8 years ago

I've recently just made my own creation, since I started not so long back I've been doing clones and copying recipes offline. I'm really happy with the outcome but something seems to be missing, what would you guys recommended to fill this out?

TFA Grape Juice - 6% TFA Juicy Peach - 2% TFA Kiwi Double - 1% TFA Sweetener - 1% TFA Sour - 0.5%

Cheers!

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Depends on what seems to be missing. Is it a lack of fullness in the mouthfeel? Try TFA Marshmallow 1% or TFA Coconut 0.5%. Are the flavors separate and you want them thoroughly blended together? Try TFA Dragonfruit 1% or TFA Strawberry 2%. Can't figure out what's missing? Try TFA Strawberry Ripe 2%. Is the grape just not grapey enough? Try a different grape. Is it not wet and juicy enough? Try INW Cactus 0.25%. The possibilities are endless.

2 points
 
by VaultToastabout 8 years ago

You are a hero! It's tasty but I can only describe it as one dimensional, some wetness could really help so I'll grab some cactus and maybe add some strawberry ripe for depth... Thanks my man!

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I wouldn't recommend both Cactus and Strawberry Ripe. Might work, but they typically don't go well together. I would stick with just the Cactus. It will add a depth of its own and if you're not getting it at 0.25%, try bumping it up to 0.5% in the next batch.

2 points
 
by BlackPokeballabout 8 years ago

Hi guys im new at diy but have done extensive research into the subject, i have ordered my nicotine (100mg) mixing equipment, a pre mixed vg70 pg30 base. The flavours for my first recipe i looked at reccomended % from other diyers, let me know what you think of these flavours. I think they could work but id love your input on the base idea 😊

TFA Blackcurrent - 6% TFA Blackberry - 4% FW Blue raspberry - 3% TFA Citrus punch 2 - 1%

Any thoughts would be appreciated 😊

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Welcome to DIY!

That's a ridiculous amount of TFA Blackberry. I wouldn't trust whomever recommend that to you. Try cutting it down to 0.5%.

2 points
 
by Fragility_about 8 years ago

Does adding sweetener to a full bottle of pre-mixed juice require steeping? (I know this sounds like sacrilege). I added 4 drops of FA sweetener to a 10ml bottle to test it, shook it periodically over 2 days and I haven't really noticed it.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

No, it doesn't. If you want it even sweeter, add more.

2 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

I bought a few bottles of LA bakery emulsions. Has anyone used these or recommended against them? It has water, PG and preservatives in it. Will it foul my coils?

3 points
 
by coop34about 8 years ago

This is the most recent list that I know of. They are hit and miss. Which ones did you get?

3 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

I bought Butter Vanilla, Cheesecake, and hazelnut. Thanks, I'll check that link!

3 points
 
by coop34about 8 years ago

I have been meaning to pick up cheesecake for a while now. I have saw several positive comments. I don't remember seeing the other 2 mentioned. Doesn't mean anything tho. I myself would test each one at 3% to get a feel for them. I'd love to know if any of them stand out for you...

3 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

Thank you thank you! I needed that list before I bought. Luckily, I bought them at Walmart, so I can return the baddies, or actually use them in baking.

3 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCabout 8 years ago

Don't use the emulsions!

1 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

More detail? Bad for the vaper or bad for the hardware? Or gasp both?

1 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCabout 8 years ago

I see you found the answer. Yup, both.

1 points
 
by Rainbird55about 8 years ago

Ok, I just did a comprehensive web search (which I should have done in the first place) and found that the LA bakery emulsions all contain gum or xanthan gum, which should not be vaped. It's also bad for coils. I wish that spreadsheet could be updated.

2 points
 
by Civinskoabout 8 years ago

So i finally got DNB and well.. i can't taste it, tried at 0.5% in a mix and got nothing. Tried upping it to about 3% still nothing. Tried solo from 0.5% up to 5% and still nothing.

I can't taste strawberry aswell but that's fine, not tasting DNB is just making me sad.

I don't even know if i have a question, maybe wondering if there's something i can do.

Edit: By the way it looks exactly as people described it (really dark etc..) but has no smell to it.

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You got what?

5 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

/u/civinsko found out about our lord n savior drum n bass

3 points
 
by Civinskoabout 8 years ago

Sadly i CAN taste drum n bass

3 points
 
by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Pretty sure that is INW Dirty Neutral Base

3 points
 
by Civinskoabout 8 years ago

Inawera Dirty Neutral Base.

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Man, I don't think I can help, but I just wanted to say how sorry I am for your misfortune.

I think I've kind of built a tolerance to it, but when I first got it .5% was wonderful.

2 points
 
by Civinskoabout 8 years ago

The concentrate smells like something to you? I'm thinking i might have gotten a bad batch or something.

I HOPE this is a bad batch :(

4 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

The smell from the bottle isn't crazy strong, but it does have a bit of an astringent, ashy smell. It's got that look like it has solids kind of floating in there, so maybe it wasn't well mixed when they filled your bottle. I've noticed the bottle I've been using seems to have less of that stuff floating around, so maybe I'm not actually building a tolerance, but my bottle is weaker. The first bottle I ever had you could see those solids in the drips. Seems to be a bit more mixed in now.

So maybe bad batches do go out. Now I'm worried I might have one.

2 points
 
by Fewondabout 8 years ago

So this is my first time mixing and I got my order a few days ago. My problem : I only taste VG on all my mixes.

My first try was DIY or Die's Fried Ice Cream using syringes (the scale only arrived today). Probably messed up the dosages but it's ok, I only made 5 ml.

Fast-forward to today, I receive my scale and try to mix Fried Ice Cream again but this time with a scale. I make 10 ml and decide to try it immediately ; I'm not expecting anything great but it was really bad. It tasted like a dry-hit without the cotton actually burning and a bitter aftertaste. I try the other recipe in the video, Strawberry milkshake, mix it, shake it and again, same taste, no other flavor.

Maybe the problem is coming from the steeping time, so I try the mix I made a few days ago with the syringes : same taste, time apparently didn't help.

I thought this was caused by TPA Strawberry (Ripe) so I tried to mix it alone, at 8% in a 5ml (70/30). Again, same horrible taste but I can't feel the Strawberry. I try to add 2 drops of EM to see if there is a difference : nothing changed.

I decided to vape the VG alone to see if it was causing the problem, this is definitely the only thing I'm tasting in every other mix.

How can I know if the VG is bad or if it's just me? Should I contact the seller? The batch number is written on the bottle, can I just ask him to check? Thanks in advance and sorry if I'm not clear !

4 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

VG isn't supposed to taste anything but slightly sweet, if it tastes horrible it's definitely bad. Is it a thick syrup or really watery, any smell or discoloration? Either way, if you're sure it's not your tank or residue from something else, contact the seller.

3 points
 
by Fewondabout 8 years ago

It is a thick transparent liquid. There is a slight smell but barely noticeable. I tried tasting it on my tongue and it's really sweet but no unpleasant flavor. The problem is that when vaped, the smell that was hard to notice when the VG was liquid gets stronger and become the dominant note both in the smell and the taste of the vapor.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Yea, that shouldn't happen, it's been spoiled or contaminated somehow. Fortunately, VG is cheap and easy to come by, you could get a small bottle from some other place to compare, but if you vape straight VG and it tastes bad, you should complain and they will likely send you a new batch free of charge.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Where did you get your VG? You linked videos. Did you use a calculator to mix the recipes?

2 points
 
by Fewondabout 8 years ago

Sorry, I forgot the most important. So yes I used this calculator and got the VG from diy-ejuice.com. They have good reviews, on this sub too, so I probably messed up something but I'll contact them just to be sure !

2 points
 
by shariltonabout 8 years ago

So I bought a few TFA flavours to try out as I'm 80% certain it was the concentrate from Vampire Vape that didn't agree with me. I picked out ripe strawberry, marshmallow, dairy/milk, spearmint, dragonfruit and vanilla swirl all in 10ml bottles just to try out for myself.

I know I want to mix this at least 70/30 and preferably 80/20 of VG/PG but I'm lost.

I have 2 x 10ml 15mg nicotine shots mixed apparently 70/30 (but some staff members say it's 100% PG). I'm unsure how to actually mix based on nicotine shots since I started this game way too late.

Couldn't afford £15 for 30mls that lasts me a few days. I currently go through 50mls a week.

Edit: I vape 3mg and chain vape, I like fruity flavours but after ordering don't hear incredibly great things about ripe strawberry.

I also want a menthol vape but I don't want the spearmint to be too strong.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Did you also buy PG and VG separately?

2 points
 
by shariltonabout 8 years ago

Yes I did! Not gonna use the pg anymore

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Have you tried using one of the calculators in the sidebar to figure out how much nic shot, VG, and flavor to mix together, such as dot1ml.com?

2 points
 
by SynesthesiaBrahabout 8 years ago

Is there a list of all TFA/FA flavorings that don't contain diacetyl? I thought that no FA flavors contain diacetyl but I read that some actually do.

4 points
 
by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

TFA dx flavorings are made to avoid it. FA, for the most part doesn't contain it, but a few do especially thier baking line which ecx only seems to carry.

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

You can check ingredients for TFA flavors right on their site.

2 points
 
by sirfletchalotabout 8 years agoI <3 ID10-T

just received some new concentrates in the mail and I'm curious to know what percentages work well for these as standalone and in a mix

  • CAP sugar cookie
  • CAP new york cheesecake
  • FLV cookie dough
2 points
 
by coop34about 8 years ago

You need this link.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

That looks like the start of another one of your killer 3-ingredient recipes right there. Cheesecake-Filled Sugar Cookie?

2 points
 
by coop34about 8 years ago

Maybe, but you burned me out on Cap Sugar Cookie:) You almost can't go wrong with the stuff. My last order was 4 oz.

Thanks for saying "killer". What is sad is that here lately I have just been too lazy to even mix 2-3 flavor mixes. I keep putting it off until I'm scraping bottom, then hastily making a few things.

Man, I need to do something about that low t....

2 points
 
by acesrhighabout 8 years ago

I posted recently about my nicotine levels,(former smoker) but I already ordered some bottles of 3mg nicotine ejuice and have been blowing through it. People suggested I at least get 6 or 12mg, but I already ordered, so it was suggested I add some nicotine myself. I ordered some 100mg nicotine and it should be here soon, but I have 3 1/2 120/ml bottles of the 3mg stuff I need to cut it with.

From what I read, 100mg of nicotine is referring to 100mg per ml. So 3.5ml = 350mg, mixed with 120ml of other liquid, should be right, to get me just below the 6mg liquid. Is my math wrong? Maybe even keep it at 3ml just to be safely low on the levels. Oh, and does it take time to settle for safely vaping or can I vape it after mixing it well?

4 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Your math is correct. Since nic is dealing with mg/ml, you can pick the math apart pretty easily.

Your 120 ml of 3 mg/ml contains a total of 120*3=360 mg of nic. If you add 350 mg of nic to that, you have 710 mg of nic. The total amount of liquid at this point is 123.5 ml, so just divide 710 by 123.5 and you get 5.75 mg/ml.

If you use 3.8 ml instead of 3.5 ml, you get 5.98 mg/ml. I don't have the formula memorized to make it exact. Nothing wrong with using an ejuice calculator though, I just like to double check by hand.

2 points
 
by acesrhighabout 8 years ago

Thanks a ton! Just didn't want to overdo it. Awesome.

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Forgot the last question. The short answer is no, since you're adding very little liquid to the mix. That is the beauty of 100 mg/ml.

2 points
 
by acesrhighabout 8 years ago

Sweet. Thanks again :)

2 points
 
by Rybosabout 8 years ago

New mixer here - I ordered a "starter kit" of sorts from Vapewild last week and have been mixing with 6 of their flavorings (grapefruit, orange, peach, green tea, honey and coconut) to decent results.

I want to expand my flavors, and get cheaper VG/PG and better nic (whatever VW uses is kind of harsh, even at 2%).

Are there any good websites that carry an array of flavoring brands so that I don't need to order from multiple sources?

Edit - just found the "verified vendors" list on the sidebar. duh.

3 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

http://www.bullcityflavors.com/ is my favorite.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

How is the throat hit nicotine from VaporsTek? I'm interested in keeping my MTL juices for my Nautilus 2 throaty like 24mg but dropping the nic level to around 12mg so I can puff on it more often. At the same time though, I don't want my 3mg mixes for DTL to be overly harsh.

2 points
 
by catchthemagicdragonabout 8 years ago

Alright, out of cheapness to save on shipping for my first order I just got VG from bull city, this shit doesn't suck or is low quality is it? Have you ever noticed a difference in VG in general?

And about the nicotine. I ordered a 120ml sample of Carolina xtracts 100mg, but this is only going to last me a few months vaping like 120mls a week after some math. I forgot to get more brown bottles but I have I think 4 empty brown 60 and 120 bottles from a juice company I can clean out. But they're simple ejuice dropper bottles, can I find some better lidded containers because they don't seal the best? So, I'll probably keep about 15mls out in a drawer, but just how much damage can be done each time you open your freezer stock? Will I be fine splitting into 2-3 bottles?

It's kinda expensive, but I want my juice to be supremium, do you think Carolina is worth it or is one of the alternatives pretty much just as good? Only vape 3mg

3 points
 
by Apexifiedabout 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

The main difference with VG is the price. A lot of vendors resell the same VG but end up pricing it different based on the volume they're able to sell. Don't get your VG on BCF and ignore people who say Amazon is the way to go. NicRiver is cheaper for VG than Amazon even if you don't spend enough there for free shipping.

It's perfectly fine to split up that amount of nic but I've had no problem leaving 120ml on my desk for 2-3 months. If I were you I'd make your next order 120ml of Vaperstek nic and see for yourself if Carolina is worth the difference.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Less than a week old mixer here doing my first real strawberry mix as a semi-strawberry non-taster. Sometimes I can taste it fine, other times not at all. I'm sure it depends entirely on what strawberry different vendors are using.

Would anyone be willing to take a look at my recipe and suggest changes before I needlessly waste supplies?


#Strawberry WIP V2
Base: 36mg (PG)
Desired: 3mg
Ratio PG/VG: 30/70
Steep: Unsure

Flavor | Vendor | Ratio ---|---|---- Dragonfruit | TFA | 1% Strawberry (Ripe) | TFA | 2% Strawberry Shisha | INW | 5% Sweet Strawberry | CAP | 4% Sweetener | TFA | 1%


The first time I tried to make a strawberry I didn't have Dragonfruit, and the only strawberry concentrates I had were TFA Strawberry and FA Strawberry. I barely got any strawberry out of it at all. Don't remember the exact ratios I used though. It was the very first thing I mixed, and I didn't take notes.

Here's a link to all the flavors I currently own. Feel free to suggest anything out of there that might work better. If there are other concentrates I should buy instead, don't hesitate to suggest any. I'm placing another flavor order today anyway.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

If you can't taste strawberry well, INW Shisha Strawberry is probably your best bet. Edit: out of the strawberries you have.

I'd leave the Strawberry Ripe and Sweetener out of this and cut the CAP Sweet Strawberry in half.

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaabout 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Alpine and INW Wild Strawberry work well for non tasters

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Both are going in my next flavor order, thanks for the info.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Never mind on the Alpine right now. I'm not sure I can stomach $17.49 on a single 15ml flavor when I could get 8-9 10mls in other flavors.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Yes. Thank you. Edited to clarify.

2 points
 
by Urano_Metriaabout 8 years agoMentholatier

Thanks for the advice, I'll mix that up!

Edit: Should I single-flavor test all the strawberries I own before mixing anything, or just try this mix out?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Single flavor testing is always a good idea

2 points
 
by twoambienabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I just saw somebody say in passing we're supposed to keep our flavors in the dark? Is that right?

I just have mine on a table, exposed to lots of light. What's going to happen to them?

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

It's specifically UV radiation from direct exposure to the sun that you need to worry about. It will ruin your nicotine, PG, VG, flavorings and mixes alike through oxidation and quite literally ripping molecules apart.

2 points
 
by def_not_myselfabout 8 years ago

New to vaping here, just got my starter kit (2 bottles VG, 1PG, 5 flavors and 50mg/ml nic).

Always vaped premium eliquid with no trouble, but friday I tried to mix my own and got a terrible throat irritation when inhaling and mostly when exhaling. Tried to vape only VG, went smooth, only PG, went smooth, both together went smooth too, but when I add any flavor or nic it gets terrible, even with like 3% total.

My flavors are Strawberry (Ripe), Bubblegum, Creme de Menthe, Black Honey and Vanilla Ice Cream, all by TPA.

Any idea what could cause this? I'm used to smoking tobacco so I guess nic isn't the problem (but even VG+PG+Nic with no flavors gave me this dry sensation)

2 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

it sounds like your nicotine is not good. or your flavor usage is not good.

either way we gon need to see specific recipes/brands or ima just say its your nic and to buy better nic.

2 points
 
by superpetjaabout 8 years ago

Hi guys. I spent a lot of time to find coffee tobacco recipe, but still cant do it. What is your ADV recipe currently looking for mine. Tnx.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageabout 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

still tryna re-work mine. it destroids me wicks

  • 1% tfa coffee (black af)
  • 1% tfa garuda or cuban TA
  • 0.3% acetyl pyrazine 5

reformulation eta: august 2020

current adv's in sidebar. todays is 2.3%fa forrest fruit & 2% fa fl key lime.

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