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Recycled nicotine
submitted about 8 years ago by OriginalPugsly

In the process of trying to figure out if the epa or the state of California could get on my ass about disposing of old juice or bad batches, I came across this; https://knightshade.g2rev.com/faq.html#q02. Does anyone think we have to now worry about where our suppliers nicotine comes from?

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by jtriangleabout 8 years ago

Sounds unnecessary, but I don't see the harm in it. Nicotine purity is nicotine purity. If their extraction methods work there isn't a problem.

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by OriginalPugslyabout 8 years ago

purity is not the same as quality....

not to mention we have no idea of the recyclability (sp?) of nicotine... look at how paper and plastic recycle

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by jtriangleabout 8 years ago

Paper and plastic are completely different because they're made of a slew of compounds and don't get recycled with chemical processes.

Pure nicotine, as a chemical (C10H14N2) is what we're after. Perceived quality is up to how pure that chemical is. I don't know how they're recycling it, but if they're getting pure C10H14N2 out of the process, it'll be the same as any other quality nicotine. It can't be harder than extracting it from a plant, considering there's a couple orders of magnitude fewer chemicals in organic plant matter than there is in your e-juice.

You can objectively test the purity of a chemical like nicotine, so there's no real worry, provided they're actually extracting the nic and recycling it.

The holdup on "quality" here is how much nic gets oxidized before it gets to your vape. Shitty nic has more oxygen exposure, good nic has less. There's no "magic nicotine" that somehow tastes better, in its pure form it has no flavor.

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by OriginalPugslyabout 8 years ago

A plastic molecule is actually simpler than a nicotine molecule,, and when plastic is broken down and can't be recycled any more, the molecule is still pure. Perhaps, not paper on that tip... but I don't care to research it.

But ye proved my point about the shadiness of recycled nicotine..... unless we entertain the possibility that nicotine that has made it to the point of being thrown away rather than sold is going to be some unicorn of fresh, minimally oxidised variety.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Sounds shady but probably not a concern, the normal extraction method is pretty nasty and the end result is pure enough. Wouldn't this be used mostly by vape stores? I would also assume most vendors make sure to sell off any juice that is about to expire, with massive discounts if required, just to avoid this problem. Interesting nonetheless.

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by bagel-masterabout 8 years ago

I never even considered the possibility of the EPA giving a shit about people dumping juice down the drain or whatever. Wouldn't nicotine biodegrade?

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

It's toxic, kills fish and stuff

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by OriginalPugslyabout 8 years ago

Bagel, Yea.... so will arsenic, cyanide, etc. The problem is its toxicity until in does.

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