Not when I had my 30th bottle of flavoring and had to find a new way to store them all, not when I bought VG by the liter, not even when I did the math and realized the 120ml of nic base would last me for like a year. None of those made me pause. Hunting for a bottle that's been steeping for a couple weeks and is totally ripe and being unable to find it easily by just reaching out and grabbing it. That right there was the moment I realized "this is just a thing I do now"
I use only use 6-ish ml/day. The 1200ml of prepared juice I have on hand is going to last A WHILE.
http://imgur.com/a/gfMVz
Compulsive collecting, gotta love it.
I sell and give a ton away myself. I have four relatives that exclusively get from me, and a few locals that are sick of overpriced $22/30ml bottles that murder coils.
Honestly the biggest reason my friends want my juice is because store juice kills their coils and mine doesn't. It's ridiculous
I think that's part of starting out. When I used to do flavor reviews, I'd have 10 or 20 bottles of single flavors on hand, plus another 10-20 bottles of trial mixes in my daily rotation. It was madness. I have since settled to mixing 500-1000mL a week, all in 120mL batches. Coming to accept the fact that "other people's recipes are actually pretty damn good" has helped with the bottle clutter and time wasted with numerous trials. I do still work on my own recipes, just 2 or 3 at a time rather than 10 or 15 at a time.
That being said, I order my bases only when they're on sale, gallons at a time. Liter of nic every time, 200mL stock minimum, because you never know when they are going to shut that shit down. Flavors, I have around 200, and most of them get ordered by the oz, and that doesn't even shake a stick at some other mixers' stashes. I have 2 scales, looking at a 3rd. I also have a TON of glass/plastic bottles clean or waiting to be cleaned. Add in pipettes, syringes, beakers, funnels, and all that other shit that comes in handy once in a while, and you've got yourself a monster. And I'm sure there are others here that make my 2 cupboards crammed full of supplies seem like a small order of fries at McD's.
Do your scale recommendations vary from the sidebar?
My next order is going to be the 501. My buddy gave me a cheap-o off Amazon that I use a lot, but I don't like the display on the right side because my arm blocks it. (Can't pour left handed for shit) I have an older high capacity dinosaur one that only goes to the 0.1 g with with a finicky set of button and display issues. I use it for bigger batches.
I dont see a problem there.
Ive been in the DIY game for about 2 months. I have a 200+ flavor collection if you include the order I placed today.
I dont look at it as spending 140 on flavoring, I look at it as saving 1,260 on store bought juice. (And that is low end store bought juice) Not to mention I can try way more flavor combos with that money that stores will not offer.
Failed creations/just got tired of them
And don't even get my wife started on the stuff on the kitchen counter.
http://imgur.com/a/3PhLf
So, i bought and built an armoire specifically for vape supplies. The blue and orange rack holds approx 1/4 of my flavors (empty here as i had just moved everything across the room to put in the armoire), The white basket is slap full of half used juices i give away (stuff i don't care for but someone else will), the keyboard drawer holds a bat symbol atty holder with several drippers and an old kayfun clone, 5 or 6 different gauges and types of wire and several different wicking materials. The box that says happiness (originally, bed bath and beyond, holds close to if not more than a liter of flavorings, the USPS box on the bottom holds empty flavor bottles so i can keep track of what i'm out of and the Walmart bag is one of three slap full with empty bottles that i rinse and reuse when trying out new recipes. Happy coincidence? My video games fit too.
I sliced my fucking finger trying to open one of those 120ml bottles, what is the secret? Because it's not sliding an xacto knife between the bottle and the cap, that's for god damn sure.
On topic, I'm content spending $25/120ml for custom juice I specify (self-confessed recipe creeper here) but haven't put the "Y" in DIY... just yet.
I gave up. None of the tips I found here worked for all of the 120 ml gorilla bottles I had. I now order 100 bottles of a certain type, see if I like them, then order something completely different because I have yet to find a great bottle all around.
Has anyone hopped on the "BPA free" trend for ejuice bottles yet? I've been reusing this guy and it's treating me well, but I do wonder... Obviously glass exists but seems like a logical selling tactic for plastic ones.
I've given up on them after the first 5 pack I picked up off of BullCity. Of the 5, I tossed out 4 of them. One of them, thank god, the nozzle pops right in and out just perfectly. I'm scared to order more. Granted while they were in use, they work real well. Didn't have to squeeze too hard when I'm down to the last quarter of the bottle.
Don't feel bad. I have 4 L of juice ready to go... I started mixing by the liter when I realized I was tired of mixing every week
I'll be mixing by the liter as soon as I find some ADVs. Shame I don't know anyone offline that vapes, because they'd be getting some ultra steep discounts on juice that's way better than what they're buying online and in the shops.
Look for the Nana cream clone recipe in here. It's very close, especially after steeping, and I personally never get tired of it. It was the first recipe I made the jump to liter with
Thanks for the recommendation, but it honestly sounds like the perfect storm for the worst vape for me personally. I just can't stand banana flavoring at all, even in non-vaping stuff. Wish I could be a banana non-taster instead of strawberry.
Creams though, I'm not sure about. I've hated literally every cream profile e-liquid I've tried up to this point, but they've all been commercial juices.
I'm only just getting into DIY, so I wonder if I could make a cream I actually enjoy since I have total control over what goes in the recipe?
The question I have to ask myself: Do I hate creams in commercial e-liquids, or do I hate creams in general?
I got into DIY because even outside of creams I've been unable to vape more than 1-2ml of 90% of the juice I've purchased, only finding 2-3 ADVs out of maybe 90-120 juices I've tried. Maybe it really is only commercial creams I hate?
Cheap nicotine, garbage flavorings, oceans of sweeteners, it could be any number of things that make me dislike the creams I've tried.
I love Apple Waffle from GSV, so that inspires at least a little hope for me, even though it's not really creamy, it is a far cry from my usual fruit/candy vapes.
Banana though... Absolute hard pass from me.
#What would you recommend I do?
Is there a simple, highly regarded, impossible to fuck up cream recipe I can try that will help me determine if I actually hate creams?
I got back into mixing in March of last year. So far I've spent over $3,200, mostly for the 400+ flavors I've collected.
But-- I can make damned near anything now! I should just tell people: "Go to All The Flavors, pick out some recipes and I'll make those for you."
And sure as shit, there'll be one stinkin' flavor I don't have yet!
My concentrates are just in a shoe box I probably have about 50 different flavours. As well as this I have 5 litres of VG and 2.5 of PG. Depending on what atomisers I'm using I can vape 30+ml a day. I usually mix 100ml bottles and have about 4 different flavours/recipes on the go at any time to vape. I also sell liquid to some of my friends which gives me a little extra cash now and again. I really should find out how much I've spent on vaping and diy from the start because it's easily about £600 maybe more