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So, after about 2 years of what I love I'm getting out of not only the mixing game, but vaping all together.
submitted almost 8 years ago by FullMe7alJacke7

Hey all I am going to give you a little background as to why I even bothered posting this, but for the inpatient folks, the TL;DR will be summarized at the bottom as the story isn't required, I'm just in a sharing mood.

Now let me give you some incite, I smoked analogs and got into smoking pot regularly (started both same exact day actually) from my second week of high school. I started out slow, bumming from friends, buying dime bags, etc. Then got more into it as my social circle grew larger. Worst I ever got was a pack a day and I turned into a run of the mill "All day every day" stoner. I didn't get high, I stayed high most of my days during this phase of my life. Then one day I woke up, smoked the last analog I had and went and dropped $300 on a Sig 150 with an Diablo RDA. Believe it or not, unlike most vapers that was the only mod I bought. I tried others that friends had but stuck with my original mod the entire time for my 2 years of vaping.

After 2 weeks of vaping regularly, I was spending an additional $80 a week on juice.... Thus leading me to research DIY. I dabbled a bit, then jumped in head first. In total, I've spent over $2,000 on flavor concentrates and I have well over 200 different flavors. Some still sealed, some half gone and varying sizes from 10ml to 500ml big boys.

I ended up doing a half-assed attempt at starting a line of vape juice and becoming a business owner. I didn't go the traditional route however, I had t-shirts made, vape bands, stickers, busines cards, custom labels, clean room bottled product, went to different semi-local venues to show off and sell my product, made a facebook group, etc. Did everything except buy a B&M location, instead I attempted to get into various shops across the country as well as every shop here locally. I made it on the shelves of a few local places and I was ecstatic about it! I was beginning to feel as if I was nearing success for what I set out to do. It was awesome!

Then it happened.... Business died off on my website, as well as in the local shops. People stopped buying as big of quantities and stopped buying as frequently no matter what I did to try to drum up business. I hadn't given up, even thought I was sitting on approximately 6 gallons of pre-bottled product that was just sitting there steeping for months.... The oldest bottle I have is currently 18 months old. The flavor has held much better than I anticipated based of my experience with many local brands which I am stoked about! But after a while I just gave up on continuing my vape business, I wasn't confident enough to keep putting money into something that stopped producing money consistently. I still have quite a few friends I sell the remaining stash to at reduced prices just to get rid of the product.

I always vaped my own product, I tried other stuff people had but never consistently vaped anything other than my juice. Then just a couple months ago I found out that I had testicular cancer and it had spread to my lungs, that was the last straw for me.

I sold my mod a few days later with everything else I had for it, RDA's, Tanks, Charging Bay, etc. So to this day the only thing I have left related to vaping is my $1,500+ collection of assorted flavor concentrates from CAP, TFA, FW, FA, DIYFS, INW, LA, LB, etc. If anyone is interested in purchasing my remaining concentrates or the rights to some of my recipes feel free to DM me so we can discuss the details.

I'm told my diagnosis is curable and I have already begun my chemo treatment as well as regularly taking my vitamins and CBD oil and I am staying positive about it. I'm not looking forward to the required surgery after to cut out the remaining tumors but shit happens, ya gotta figure out how to beat everyone at your table with whatever hand that bitch of a dealer called life throws you.

I know this post is kind of irrelevant and drawn out but I figured someone might find it to be a good read and I felt like telling my DIY story. Hope y'all enjoyed it.

TL;DR = Smoked cigs 7 years. Vaped 2 years. Attempted Vape biz. Found out I currently have cancer that spread to my lungs they say i can be cured, selling 150+ different flavor concentrates as I will not be returning to the vape community. DM me for details, will ship within US. Also looking to sell rights to my most popular recipes.

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by djrider69almost 8 years ago

God bless you man. My son is a survivor and it's a tough road you must face .. Your positive attitude may be the medicine you need.. You are lucky to live in an age where there are some very good treatments and amazing surgeons and oncologists.. Forward thinking is not only crucial but it's your only option.. You can beat this and I'm sure the community is pulling for you just as much as I am.. If you need to talk please reach out...

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

I most certainly will, thank you for your kind words! A positive mind is something that often gets overlooked or forgotten in situations like this. I'm not going down without putting up one hell of a fight and being positive could very well be the best weapon in my arsenal.

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by CancerousToeJamalmost 8 years ago

This is my first post on reddit. New to vaping, just wanted to say I hope the best for you sir.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thanks! If you're new to vaping the best thing I can say is stay away from unregulated mods and mechs unless you know what you're doing. If you aren't sure then just stick to something with a chip in it. The chips are designed to be destroyed before anything else happens. Use common sense and Google and you'll be alright.

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by CancerousToeJamalmost 8 years ago

Yes sir. I only have mtl tanks three aspire zelos that come with nautilus 2 tank and 2 nautilus mini i picked up. Im thinking of doing some diy ejuice just because of uncertainty of upcoming regs. Thanks for the advice.

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by KeepItReal_Trillalmost 8 years ago

Very respectable choice. Best of luck to you. You'll be in my thoughts and I'm hoping for the best.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you! I'm sure I will get through it, I am responding incredibly well to the chemo thus far. I haven't had nearly as many side effects as I expected at this point. I guess that's a perk of having to deal with this at the age of 24, my body is pretty strong and will recover faster than if I was at this point 40 years from now.

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by KeepItReal_Trillalmost 8 years ago

That's good to hear. I'm confident that you'll beat this shit. I know I'm not the only one rooting for you. Stay strong and push through.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Haha you're most certainly not the only one! I met the most amazing woman 4 months ago and she didn't run away like I was expecting when I told her about my condition. Instead she has went above and beyond to be as helpful and supportive as possible, I would have married her already but I am waiting to see how things go financially.

If medical bills end up being overbearing there's no point in making her legally responsible for my debt on the off chance I don't pull through.

All I know is that she came into my life at the perfect time before I even knew I needed her. I am blessed I have her to support me through this difficult time.

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by tranceinatealmost 8 years agoIn a good mood for now - don't piss me off.

Turning 25 in August. Smoked for 4 years, now have vaped for 4. I wish you the best, man. Sending good vibes your way~

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thanks man!

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by Jackrarealmost 8 years ago

What symptoms did you get that made you get checked out? If you don't mind me asking.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Enlarged right testicle, at first I questioned if it was larger or if I was just imagining it. Then I started thinking maybe it was just temporary swelling when I did go "Okay, it's definitely larger than usual" thinking it was due to recent activities or something along those lines.... Then it didn't go away....

My father had fluid buildup in his at one point in his life and the little bit of research I did helped me decide it was either the same thing or it was a tumor.

So at this point from the time I initially started questioning the size change until I got my medical insurance was about 8 to 10 months or so.

Medical insurance got approved and it's required to have a physical done and fill out some type of survey with your medical provider. They did same day scheduling so I went in and when it came time for the physical he was going to just skip it if I let him but I had to insist he actually did it. When I had the physical done he said it was about 10cm, I felt no pain from it at any point, only discomfort. They scheduled me for an ultrasound the next day, which led to a surgery to have it removed that same week followed by CT scans which showed it spread to my lungs. I've got a 2" spot in the center, another almost 2" spot in my right lung, and multiple smaller spots in both sides. Also after a biopsy, the pathology report showed it was 80% Teratoma which doesn't respond much if at all to chemo. Thus the impending surgery to have remaining tumors removed. I'm hoping the tumors respond better than he thinks they will in combination with the CBD oil. I'd like to avoid surgery all together if I can, but I'm not counting on it.

The main reason I didn't get checked sooner was just due to waiting for medical insurance and negligence tbh. I'm the type of person that hates hospitals and refuses to go in unless my limbs are falling off or I'm turning green.... So main lesson to be learned from this.... Don't fucking procrastinate, just go get checked.

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by sirfletchalotalmost 8 years agoI <3 ID10-T

My mother passed away 2 years ago this Thursday due to terminal lung cancer. overall she was battling cancer for 5 years. I constantly told her to try cbd oils but as she was extremely anti drug she point blank refused. I don't know if it would have made a difference at that stage but I wish she had just tried it.

Anyway, I have my fingers crossed for you and wish you all the best

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Im sorry to hear that about your mother. I don't know if it's going to help me or not, but I figured I should at least try! Thank you for your kind words

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by sirfletchalotalmost 8 years agoI <3 ID10-T

I think that it's got to be worth a try. I just wish my mother wasn't as stubborn as she was.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

My mother is stubborn af too.... it's a trait that has it's advantages and disadvantages unfortunately.

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

I lost my mother to lung cancer a few years ago, and she was... well, I wrote a bit below about the strange things she did in her last couple of months. Dunno, there was nothing to be done for her at that point, and I think what she did kept her mind off the inevitable. That was worth something, IMHO.

I had some ideas about what she ought to be doing, and they differed from her ideas, but she was the one looking death in the eye, and in the end it was up to her. I tried to argue with her, once, about some diagnostics I wanted her to take, and when she became very upset I stopped, and never argued with her again.

Dunno- the CBD might have made her more comfortable, and it might not have. It wouldn't have changed the course of her disease. While it's natural to want to second guess every decision you made when you lose someone that close to you, I have come to understand that it's not worthwhile.

We want to feel as if we have some control over events, so when a really bad event that is completely out of our control happens we invent things that we could have done to make it better. We'd rather feel that we did something wrong than just acknowledge that there was nothing to be done. If we had just done this instead of that, maybe it would have been a bit better... somehow it's more comforting to blame ourselves than to recognize that sometimes very bad things happen, and we can do nothing about them.

It has taken me years to understand that about how my mother died. For years I second-guessed myself, wishing I had gotten there sooner, wishing I had not had certain conversations with her that upset her, wishing, wishing, wishing. In the end, I realized, I was just wishing she hadn't gotten sick, wishing she'd lived to be 100, instead of 66.

In the end, after a long time, I came to recognize that I did everything that could have been done. I was with her at the end, and there wasn't much else I could have done, except let her do what she wanted to. But it took a long time for me to really come to peace with that.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

UPDATE: Alright everyone! First of all I would just like to say thank you all for your overwhelming amount of support!! I've been around this subreddit for a few years now and 90% of what I have learned about mixing has been learned from you guys! So I have made the decision to share some of my recipes with the community so I can give back to you guys! I will not be sharing ALL of them however. I do need to keep my most popular recipes from my line a secret still so I can sell the rights to them, preferably to someone who will use them commercially so others can continue to enjoy these amazing flavors!

Now that I covered that briefly.... Here's the list of concentrates everyone has been waiting for!! Please send me a DM containing a list of what you would like and how much of it you would like. Pricing will be on a case by case scenario according to the volume of the purchase. All transactions will be done through Paypal once we establish what you'd like and what you will pay for the requested order I will send you the invoice. Thank you again!

Pre-Mixed
1.5 Gallons of Fruit Blast (Strawberry Peach Fruit Rollup) @ 3 MG
16 Oz Rainbow Sugar Rush @ 3 MG
500ML Trickster @ 0 MG
500 ML Blast Off @ 0 MG
750ML Mystery Flavor! (Seriously forgot what it is, good flavor though) @ 3 MG

Pre-Bottled in 30ML unicorn bottles @ 3 MG
52 Bottles of Utopia
176 Bottles of Strawberry Milk
106 Bottles of Elephant Ear
182 Bottles of Celestial Cereal
162 Bottles of Rainbow Sugar Rush

Concentrates & Base Ingredients
450ML of Nude Nicotine VG Based 100MG/ML (Kept in freezer since purchase)
0.5 Gal of Essential Depot PG
0.75 Gal of Essential Depot VG
60ML Ethyl Maltol Crystals

Flavor Art
90ML Almond
10ML Apricot
80ML Black Cherry
20ML Banana
100ML Carmel
120ML Cantaloupe
10ML Cola
80ML Cookie
15ML Fuji
90ML Joy
10ML Lemon Sicily
10ML Liquid Amber
50ML Milk Chocolate
30ML Strawberry
140ML Vienna Cream
140ML Watermelon
10ML Yogurt

The Flavor Apprentice
30ML Acetyl Pyrazine
5ML Apple Tart Granny Smith
140ML Berry Crunch
20ML Blueberry Candy
100ML Blueberry Extra
50ML Brown Sugar
90ML Caramel Candy
5ML Champagne
110ML Cheesecake (Graham Crust)
30ML Cinnamon Spice
30ML Coconut Extra
30ML Dairy / Milk
590ML Dragon Fruit
120ML DX Banana Cream
630ML DX Bavarian Cream
600ML DX Sweet Cream
70ML Double Chocolate (Clear)
150ML Fruit Circles
120ML Graham Cracker Clear
165ML Grape Candy
70ML Honeysuckle
100ML Juicy Peach
120ML Kiwi (Double)
20ML Koolada
60ML Lemon
120ML Malted Milk
120ML Pineapple
10ML Rainbow Sherbert
30ML Red Velvet Cake
25ML Ripe Banana
10ML Smooth
110ML Sour
100ML Vanilla Bean Gelato
25ML Vanilla Cupcake
5ML Vanilla Swirl
10ML Watermelon

Flavor West
10ML Apple Jacks
5ML Cookies and Cream
8ML Green Apple
5ML Hazelnut
55ML Hard Candy
10ML Marshmallow Toasted
30ML Orange
270ML Rainbow Line Gum
10ML Rice Krispies Type
10ML Salt Water Taffy
25ML Skittles Type
10ML Watermelon
250ML Yellow Cake

Capella
12ML Banana
8ML Cake Batter
8ML Cappuccino V2
8ML Creamy Yogurt
5ML Cinnamon Danish V2
10ML Dark Chocolate Mint
8ML Double Apple
90ML New Peanut Butter V2
90ML New York Cheesecake
120ML Orange Creamsicle
75ML Passion Fruit
30ML Sweet Cream
70ML Sweet Mango
120ML Sweet Tangerine
8ML Sugar Cookie V2
70ML Vanilla Whipped Cream

Inawera
20ML Biscuit
30ML Grape

DIY Flavor Shack
60ML Butter Cream Frosting
120ML Expert Beer Flavoring
50ML Sweet Pucker Candy
5ML Yum Yum Gummy
5ML Orange

Liquid Barn
110ML Banana
15ML Cream
15ML Crème Brulee
70ML Dew Mountain
20ML Blue Raspberry
15ML Pacific Cooler
5ML Rainbow Sherbert
15ML Coconut Milk

One on One Flavors
10ML Belgian Waffle
5ML Lemon Lime Soda
15ML Maple Syrup

Hangsen
10ML Juicy Peach
10ML Australian Chocolate
10ML Watermelon

Disclaimer for my own protection
ALL AMOUNTS OF CONCENTRATES REMAINING ARE ESTIMATES. NONE OF THESE HAVE BEEN MEASURED TO BE EXACT. SOME BOTTLES ARE STILL SEALED, SOME HAVE BEEN OPENED.

Again, please send me direct messages with what you would like from my collection as well as the amount of cash you would like to spend total. Buyers will be paying for shipping, Most things will be shipped Priority USPS or cheapest way possible unless otherwise requested.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Alright I think I've got it formatted pretty well, and alphabetized (At least mostly) for ease of access. Post questions here, and DM orders. Thanks again everyone!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

List has been updated!

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by DoctorGroovyalmost 8 years ago

I wish the best for you moving forward. I'll send positive vibes your way, maybe they'll help with recovery. Thank you for sharitng your story.

The owner of the vape shop I work at is a survivor as well. I wouldn't be where I am today without her.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Absolutely! Thank you for your kind words and good vibes! I'm glad to hear that she pulled through! I'll be doing the same! :)

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by Cocky1976almost 8 years ago

Damn bro! That's shitty, keep your head up, positive attitude and all. We're all pulling for ya, well maybe not all. Some of us are probably checking our bearings right now ( horrible I'll timed puns intended) 😋

Feel better and good luck!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Haha gotta love puns! Thanks man, much appreciated! Good vibes go a long way.

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by VaultToastalmost 8 years ago

Best of luck with your treatment brother, show it who's the man! If I lived in the US I'd consider buying some concentrates, bummer!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thanks man I plan on it!

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by user3030almost 8 years ago

Hey man I hope everything works out. I have a friend who had stage 3b testicular cancer, basically spread to his liver part of lungs and guts. Dude did a couple rounds of chemo and a huge ass surgery to remove tumors from his liver and guts. That was three years ago now there is no sign of cancer and he is doing great. Testicular cancer has a very high cure rate so best of luck to you friend!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

It does have a high cure rate which really helps me keep a positive attitude about my situation! I'd rather deal with it now while I'm younger and have a stronger body to recover from this.

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by _OO00almost 8 years ago

I don't have anything to contribute to the actual discussion, but I just wanted to wish you good luck and positive thoughts! And all the best!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you!

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by jinx1213almost 8 years ago

I'm so sorry to hear all you've been going through. I will definitely keep you in my thoughts and I truly hope everything goes well with your treatment.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank You! Well you know what say, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger! Thanks for your kind words!

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by TheRealBobSacamonoalmost 8 years ago

Best of luck to you, you'll be in my prayers.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you!

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

I wish you luck. I have a friend who has been going through a very similar scenario over the last year- testicular cancer that has now spread to the lungs.

You likely know this already, but this is a common pattern, and the prognosis is much, much better than for the lung cancers that smokers usually develop. Even with this sort of distant involvement it is generally very treatable if caught early enough (which it sounds like yours was.)

So I'm really sorry this happened to you, but you have a great attitude, and the odds are in your favor.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Yes I'm well aware it is much more treatable than typical lung cancer smokers develop. Which was part of the reason for my story about even though I smoked like I did, my doctors insist due to the scattered pattern of tumors in my lungs it definitely was from my testicular cancer and not the other way around. Thank you for your kind words! I'm sure I'll get through it!

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

Yeah, given your age, and the short period you smoked for, it seems unlikely that smoking was the direct cause. Smoking does have some unfortunate systemic effects, and might have made you a bit more prone, but my guess is that you just drew the short straw. Sorry man- that sucks, and you have my sympathies.

Like I said, the odds are in your favor. I know them pretty well because of my friend, but I won't quote them at you. One thing I do hope you'll note is that your odds are actually quite a bit better than the numbers I would quote, because of your age, general health, and lack of other complications. Those numbers are significantly dragged down by older patients with other health problems.

I'm not a doctor, let alone an oncologist, but I am a betting man, and given what you've said if I had to place a bet on your prospects I'd bet on you getting over this.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Absolutely, I myself am a betting man. I have good odds of making it through this by far. I know exactly what you mean by the numbers, I've already looked into them and found the same thing. It's just grouped together by diagnosis for the statistics, age definitely is a big factor that boosts my odds dramatically.

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by kindgroundalmost 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I wish you the best of luck with your treatments and will keep you in my prayers. My wife is on her second half of her first round of chemo. It's been a hell of a journey.

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

Good luck, man. You and your wife have my sympathies and best wishes. I've lost a lot of the people I loved most to untreatable cancers over the last few years. But I've also had some people close to me come through treatable cancers really well, and one is still going strong fifteen years after a diagnosis with a bad prognosis. It's hard to know what tomorrow will bring, but it often works out a lot better than your worst fears would lead you to believe.

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by kindgroundalmost 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Thank you. It's a hard journey but I know in my heart that we'll be just fine.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you, I wish her the best as well. I hope she has a full recovery! I highly recommend the CBD oil in conjunction with the chemo as I have noticed the days I take it twice daily I feel better than the days I go to treatment without taking any CBD.

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by livinfreenNHalmost 8 years ago

I rarely comment but just had to reach out to you and say Hang in there. My father in law went thru a similar experience around your age. He also went on to father 3 children (1 of whom is my husband!) and lived a full and happy life to the age of 82. And of course God bless!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you for your input! That is very encouraging! My girlfriend wants 3 kids and is worried we won't be able to have any after treatment as I didn't do any sperm banking due to the extraordinarily high cost of doing so I just couldn't justify it.

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by pearljam18259almost 8 years ago

How old are you?

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

24

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by pearljam18259almost 8 years ago

Good luck man

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by Widner7almost 8 years ago

Best of luck to you, sending a pm as well

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Thank you!

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by KiEFx666almost 8 years ago

Best of luck bro sorry to hear, always a long time lurker but only a few months old on reddit. You got this bro mind over matter seriously, my grandfather just had cancer, and didn't take chemo but did take radiation once or twice I believe, the cancer wasn't really what was killing him not eating was, but as soon as the doctors told him to eat because he was starving himself boom, gained his wait back and just about a month ago he passed it like nothing happened. You got this, and you'll be in my thoughts mate, message me if you ever want or need someone to reach out too.

Edit: Changed "radiationg" to "radiation" how non-retards usually spell it.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Haha the edit at the end was way too humorous imo.

Oh yeah I am eating well, staying active when I can. I feel healthy still even during chemo. My hair is falling out but that's no biggie, it will come back. I have a pretty good outlook due to the fact I have pretty good odds of getting through it and over coming this and beating it. Optimism is a powerful and often overlooked weapon we need to utilize more in day to day life, especially during situations like mine. Your mindset does control the outcome of your life as well as overall happiness. Negative minds, will never be able to achieve a happy life. It's all a mind state.... Like sure, negative things are going to happen to you, but your happiness is only controlled by how you handle them. I could be going "Oh poor me, boohoo, why me, etc etc," Nah fuck all that. I don't want anyone to feel sorry for me or feel bad for me, don't give me special treatment. Send good vibes my way or leave me alone. I'm not feeling sorry for myself and neither should anyone else.

Simple fact is, this is my situation that I MUST deal with, so I step back and look at my options, what do I think will help me come out of this ahead? What door is the best one for me to open? I got this, I will win, because I refuse to lose. It's that simple, the way people think controls more than we give credit for. I mean look at social media and the news, its all about race wars and shit, NEGATIVE INFLUENCE on society. It's goal is to tear us apart, if you can't beat your enemy how do you destroy them? Make them fight each other.... All this shit influences how we think, how we act, how we feel, how we react, etc. Because we are being manipulated into having that exact mindset.

Sorry I got distracted and ranted but I do feel strongly about that. Thanks for reaching out! I appreciate your kind words!

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by KiEFx666almost 8 years ago

Amen brother, I agree with all the shit you stated. People tend to overlook the mind over matter thing too much and well damn dude, your mind has to be a powerful weapon because without it what are you? I don't know man maybe a robot? lol, drunk when typing this so excuse the bullshit that might spew but hell yeah bro you got this no doubt, and even after what you said i don't feel sorry for you bro just feel sad for ye, but that's the game of life. we're all dealt a hard fucking hand in this game it's not the same but when i was younger i had depression and got over that and now in my life i'm dealing with this new nemesis anxiety, not at all the same situation but just an example of how we learn to overcome and become stronger bro, you got this!!!

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

Honestly your response was one of most naturally formed ones so far, I blame the booze lol. But yeah man honestly I feel like depression and anxiety and things of that nature are more of a mindset type thing.

I'm by no means trying to discredit them as serious issues because I have seen how they can effect people, and I have been through them both. We all experience it at some point to a certain extent. With depression though especially I feel like its the quicksand out of all types of mentality. The harder you try to fight it off the faster it pulls you back under....

Yes it can be defeated, not always easily or quickly but it can be done. I feel like its similar to fighting addiction, you may not want that last line you did but your body or your mind told you to do it anyway. If you say "no, I don't need it" for long enough it slowly gets easier to not even be a thought. It's similar with the negativity from depression, you try to be happy but you just can't sometimes no matter what you try.... or you do get to be happy for a little bit and then something happens that triggers the negative again. Its not that you want to think about that dark shit that makes you unhappy your mind just does it against your will. You have to learn how to fight it off to the best of your ability repeatedly and eventually it is easier to be a positive person IMO.

As far as anxiety, I feel like this is more common and more related to fear of the outcome that may happen, even if its a completely made up outcome you concocted out of thin air that is 99.9999% not plausible given the current situation... but that 0.00001% is all it takes to make you think of it. It's pretty common in people that overthink because they are usually more intelligent that the more active people like athletes and people of that nature, they exercise their physical muscles while others exercise their mental muscles. Its hard to just shut off your brain and stop thinking, some times impossible.... Thus where the positive mentality can help out as well.

My philosophy is try not to overthink to the point of ridiculousness and if I notice I am doing it I find something to take my mind off of whatever I am overthinking.

If I am anxious about something I prefer the phrase "Fuck it, lets do it." Positive mind and just go for it if you even think about doing it and can see the good from it. I would rather look back on my life and say "Yeah, I did a lot of shit and enjoyed my life to the best of my capabilities." Than look back and go "Damn... I wish I would have done more things I wanted to do...."

Sorry for the run on... I hope this helps you in some way!

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by Prygonover 7 years ago

Found your post. Buy a cheap mod with wattage only (or whatever, a joyetech with arcticfox is a cheap DNA) and an atmos greedy ($30 on eBay). Use it for vaping CBD so it goes right to your lungs.

Hope you get better!

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by bmilcsalmost 8 years ago

Hi my man. For reasons unknown, this hasn't been picked up by the main stream. My guess is that the medical industry is an unstoppable economical force.

http://www1.cbn.com/cbnnews/healthscience/2012/December/Starving-Cancer-Ketogenic-Diet-a-Key-to-Recovery

I hope you look into this further if you are serious about your recovery. I strongly believe this is the truth.

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by deadguydrewalmost 8 years ago

I know you mean well but posts like this do more harm than good. There is no scientific background that supports the claims made in the blog post you linked.

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by FullMe7alJacke7almost 8 years ago

There may not be scientific background to it but I am more than happy to look into any possible option I may have, scienrificly proven or not. I mean let's be real chemo and radiation can't be the only way to treat this.... I'm convinced there's some other way our there to cure cancer tumors that causes less damage to your body. It is either undiscovered or it has been hidden due to cancer being a multi-million dollar industry annually.

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by deadguydrewalmost 8 years ago

There may be a better way that has not yet been discovered but hokum like the diet above or some mysterious super food that big pharma doesn't want you to know about isn't going to be it. Please talk to your doctor before pursuing any non-traditional treatments. Regardless, godspeed with everything, I hope to see an update showing that you kicked its ass.

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

I don't think anything is being intentionally hidden away for financial reasons. My mother died of lung cancer a few years ago. Unfortunately, she had a type that does not generally have a good prognosis unless it is caught early enough that surgery is an option. It rarely is, and wasn't in her case. So she opted to forego treatment, as it would have been quite unpleasant, and would have been very unlikely to do more than prolong things a bit.

She went to my sister's place to die, and I went there for the last week (the end came very suddenly, more suddenly than we had expected.) My sister was a grad student in the biology department at Texas A&M at the time. Her field was neuro-bio, so not related to cancer, but A&M is a big research University, with a strong biology department. I was there for a few days after my mother died, and my sister's friends from the department came over a couple of times to bring us food, and offer her support. Some of them were very involved in cancer research (including a close friend of hers who had lost her father to cancer a few years before.)

There was a limit to what they could say about their research (even public University research departments guard certain things a bit more than I would like) but I can tell you this: they had a sense of mission about their work, and seemed to think that what they were working on was likely to bear some fruit, though not for some time. And, of course, even developing a treatment for a single type of cancer that significantly improved outcomes would be enough to make your professional reputation. So I can promise you that they would not allow any significant result they worked on to be buried. The same, I think, is true of researchers in private industry.

Now, what is true is that research dollars in the pharmaceutical industry do tend to flow toward new drugs, as that is what those companies do. And science does have blind spots. It is possible that some things like ketogenic diets, etc, might be associated with statistically significant improvements in outcomes, for certain cancers, and that it might take quite a while for the medical establishment to establish that. But you can be certain that if any of them were "cures" we would know by now, because anything with a very high success rate would be noted.

My mother was a practitioner of traditional Chinese Medicine (and a licensed hypno-therapist,) a direct disciple of the head of one of the older Qi Gong lineages, and generally a bit new-agey (that's a bit of an understatement, tbh.) I know, from quite a lot of observation, that she was able to help some people with chronic pain that traditional medicine could not help. While she attributed that to flows of Qi, I attribute that to the fact that she was an extraordinarily persuasive person, and very good at inducing a placebo effect. I'm also glad to say that she always encouraged her patients with signs of serious underlying disease to seek out Western medicine. I think what she did was quackery, but it was, IMHO, worthwhile quackery.

In her last months she sought out some bizarre treatments, including a stint at a Seventh Day Adventist retreat where they attempted to cure her cancer with applications of scaldingly hot towels, a strict vegetarian diet, and lots of prayer. In the end they discharged her, because they had been unable to bring her around to their view of the Universe, and figured that without faith nothing else they were doing would help. She did some other weird things too. I didn't object to any of them, because I knew from the first time I talked to her oncologist that her prognosis was very poor- people very occasionally just spontaneously remit, but that's very rare, and absent that she was going to die. Her pursuit of quackery was a comfort to her, I think, and I don't think it did her any harm.

You're in a different position. You're young, otherwise healthy, and your cancer is generally very treatable, and has good outcomes more often than not. Keep an open mind, but... well, my Mom is not the only new-agey person close to me I've seen die of cancer, and was not the only person I've seen pursue non-traditional treatments that claimed very high success rates. None of them were helped. There are a lot of quacks out there, some of them well-meaning, and some of them more out for the money than Big Pharma at its most avaricious.

I had to have my cat euthanized on Thursday as a result of complications from GI Lymphoma. I don't mean to compare a cat to a human being, but I loved that cat, and was pursuing treatment options until something went very wrong on Wednesday, and I thought it just too much for her to take anymore. Being me, before that I had researched the hell out of the options, outcomes, etc, and every time I googled I got ads promising a natural cure for lymphoma in cats. And you know... as much as I knew these were ads placed by hucksters, there was a part of me that wanted to believe that they had the all-natural cure for cat cancer.

So I'm sorry if I've written you a treatise, but I've been through the wringer with cancer over the last decade. It has taken a lot of the people I loved most, and I've watched some of them pursue very exaggerated and very empty promises. I'm not going to call you lucky, cause it absolutely sucks that you developed a serious cancer at such a young age- that's the exact opposite of lucky. But if you had to get a cancer, at least you got one that can be treated, and has generally favorable outcomes.

You sound like a very sensible young man, so this is probably unnecessary advice, but I'd urge you to be very careful when it comes to things that sound too good to be true, and clear everything through your oncologist. They might have blind spots, and might even be wrong about some things, but they are your best hope, and in your case they are a good hope indeed. I know the lure of the exaggerated promise, and I would hate to see you worsen your chances in its pursuit. Anyway, you have my best wishes and sympathies.

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by bmilcsalmost 8 years ago

Google it. There were CNN new reports on it. There has been plenty of youtubers going on and on about it.

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by deadguydrewalmost 8 years ago

CNN reporting on something is not validation of its scientific accuracy, they are simply reporting on a study and not the quality or accuracy of said study. I'm not even sure how to respond to the fact that you use random Youtubers to inform your medical opinion. Either way I'm done posting after this simply because it'll derail this thread. Feel free to message me if you'd like to continue the discussion.

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by bmilcsalmost 8 years ago

I disagree. Overpopulation & health industry being a trillion dollar industry. But hey, it's your life.

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by deadguydrewalmost 8 years ago

You can disagree all you want but you are still wrong. But hey, it's your funeral if you're ever in that position.

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by Severian71almost 8 years ago

I responded at much greater length below, but... I'm not sure I agree that there is no scientific evidence that ketogenic diets can improve outcomes in certain cases. In fact, I think there is some evidence that a ketogenic diet might be a useful adjuvant in the treatment of certain cancers. I'd strongly object to the idea that it is in any way a cure for cancer, but there are in fact reputable peer-reviewed studies that indicate that a ketogenic diet might lead to improved outcomes for certain cancers. Please see:

Tisdale M.J., Brennan R.A., Fearon K.C. Reduction of weight loss and tumour size in a cachexia model by a high fat diet. British Journal of Cancer. 1987;56(1):39–43.

for an early result, and:

Maurer G.D., Brucker D.P., Bähr O., Harter P.N., Hattingen E., Walenta S., Mueller-Klieser W., Steinbach J.P., Rieger J. Differential utilization of ketone bodies by neurons and glioma cell lines: a rationale for ketogenic diet as experimental glioma therapy. BMC Cancer. 2011;11:315.

Seyfried T.N., Sanderson T.M., El-Abbadi M.M., McGowan R., Mukherjee P. Role of glucose and ketone bodies in the metabolic control of experimental brain cancer. British Journal of Cancer. 2003;89(7):1375–1382.

I could give you quite a lot more cites. The problem with the link you object to (and I object to it as well,) is not that there is no science behind it, but that it goes much farther than the science supporting it warrants. A ketogenic diet might, in some cases, lead to better outcomes in the treatment of some cancers. It is not a cure for cancer though, much as I wish it were. If we could get rid of cancer by not eating carbs that would be great. Unfortunately, that's not the case. And it would be a mistake, IMHO, for patients with treatable cancers to read papers like that and go haring off in search of radical "cures" their oncologists had not signed off on, and that might interfere with more effective treatments.

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