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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of July 03, 2017
submitted about 8 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by Prometheus_unwoundabout 8 years ago

Will anyone help me figure out how I screwed this recipe up? Almond custard

Vendor|Concentrate|% |:--|:--|--: CAP|V. Custard v1 |4% TPA|Vanilla swirl |2% FA|Catalan cream|.5% INA|Marzipan|1% CAP|Sweet cream|1% TPA|Cheesecake(graham)|1% FA|Meringue|2%

This tasted nifty after a week, but after a month it's developed some undesirable characteristics. It is slightly sour, and the mouthfeel is weird(slick? metallic?).

Any ideas would be appreciated, Thanks!

PS- this is my first table in markdown, does it look formatted correctly? thanks

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

FA Meringue is a bit high, I'd dial it down. I haven't tried INW Marzipan, but it's possible that it might turn a bit sour and metallic over time. FA Marzipan is great, but it does have some odd properties that come out after a long steep.

As for the recipe, that's a lot of ingredients not entirely pulling in the same direction, so the outcome is kinda hard to predict. I'd try to simplify it a bit, such as dropping the cheesecake and the sweet cream. I doubt you'll even notice that they're gone, but it will help you troubleshoot.

Just my 2c

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by Prometheus_unwoundabout 8 years ago

That makes sense. I put the cheesecake in there in an attempt to give it a little grain. I've done single flavor on the marzipan at 1% and haven't noticed any thing like I described, but maybe that's the culprit. Rev B will follow your recommendations, thanks a lot!

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by LOL-Spelled_LOPabout 8 years ago

Can someone link me to a past post if they have one (found nothing in search thats within past few years), I may have overlooked (idk, new to reddit).

I'm just wondering what is the absolute bare bones setup for someone to make DIY juice. What would be the best budget (~100usd) setup that just covers the basics for a mixer youngling?

Also, could anyone link IMGUR pics of their setups? I'm trying to learn at an accelerated rate. I'm going back to scowering the web while I kindly await replies.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

Logical Increments of DIY Gear

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by LOL-Spelled_LOPabout 8 years ago

Thank you so much. I highly appreciate it.

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by TycoonTedabout 8 years ago

This should be on the sidebar! I didn't see it on there.

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by urs1neabout 8 years ago

I want to get into mixing by weight instead of volume. What's a good scale to use from Amazon?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

If you are in the US, you'll want to use the AWS LB 501

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by padishar123about 8 years ago

I love this scale. It's cheap and is easy to calibrate and use.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

First of all, thanks for posting this in this thread. I wanted to add to the other comment with another suggestion. [This scale](Smart Weigh Digital Pro Pocket Scale with Back-Lit LCD Display, Silver https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00IZ1YHZK/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_l2UwzbKPQCB1B) is really cheap and it has served me quite well. The AWS LB-501 is the standard among DIY Mixers, though there are other options that will work great. The nice thing about the LB-501 is that it can run on a wall plug instead of batteries, and it has no auto-shutdown. Many scales will automatically shut off after 20-30 seconds of idle time, so if you're looking for another option, battery powered or not.... look for something without this feature, or with the ability to turn this feature off. Also there are scales (like mine) which will stay on for 2 full minutes before shutting down due to inactivity. That's good enough for me. Good luck buddy!

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by urs1neabout 8 years ago

The input is very much appreciated! :)

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by xbritabout 8 years ago

SNV recipe ? If not what steep time would you give this recipe ? Just got Lemon Sicily so I want to try this tonight

Sugar cookie 4% CAP vanilla custard V1 2% Cheesecake graham crust. 2% FA lemon sicily. 2%

Any thoughts on the percentages here would be appreciated too.

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by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'd try that at various times to see how it changes and when you prefer it. At least steep it overnight. But the first three ingredients all get better with time, while the lemon will fade. There will be a sweet spot in there where the other ingredients have steeps some but the lemon hasn't faded too much. So try it after one day, and if you like it, vape on. If not, give it like three days, and try again. And so forth. That's how you'll find the optimal steep time.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

I would give that a week. ID10-T's comment is more precise, but just based on the looks of the recipe, I would give that 5-7 days before I vaped on it =)

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by padishar123about 8 years ago

I use the lazy mans technique: If you think ahead and mix flavor bases you can just sit on it for a few weeks. Then make a bottle, sit on that for another week or so. It should be good on the first try. Don't forget to leave the cap off the final bottle for 24 hrs after final mixing to let the flavor alcohols, etc... evaporate.

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by trianglefor2about 8 years ago

Does anyone have reviews of nic salts ? I have found nudenic but I cant find any info about them being used in diy. Do you know if they ship to europe?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Check with them about their shipping. I use Signature to make high nic juice for the iCare and AIO. Others use Smooth to achieve less of the throat hit in normal devices.

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by padishar123about 8 years ago

I switched to nude nic smooth vg about two months ago. I'm never going back to freebase nic. I've also noticed I can mix a presteeped flavor base and vape it immediately. I do let a fresh bottle sit open for 24 hrs to let the flavor alcohols evaporate but other than that flavor is great right away. Flavor does seem to improve about 10% after an additional week post mix. Keep in mind most of my flavor bases are 1-4 months old. Honestly I don't understand why more people haven't tried them. At 75/25 mix, 6 mg nic, there is ZERO PG/nic throat hit. The only downside I see is the nic buzz is not as strong vs freebase. This has to do with chemistry. I did a lot of reading but basically freebase nic is more easily absorbed by the body. Tobacco companies add chemicals to cigarettes to help the nic salt convert to freebase under heat. Nic salt is the natural, stable form of nic in nature. The bonus is nic salts don't oxidize over time vs freebase so a bottle theoretically will have a much longer shelf life.

If you want to start researching in more detail start here:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/Deeper_DIY/comments/3k6h2r/nicotine_freebase_vs_salt_absorption_vaporization/

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Flavor bases don't steep. Leaving the cap off for 24 hours isn't a good idea.

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by Mooseypoooabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Curious to attempt a nutty banana bread, as well as a more general banana bakery.

Stuff I've got to work with in that theme is:

TFA banana nut bread
FW hazelnut
TFA dairy milk
FA meringue
TFA vbic
TFA sweet cream
TFA Belgian waffle
FW yellow cake
INW biscuit
TFA graham cracker clear
CAP vanilla cupcake v1
TFA bavarian cream

Any pointers would be fantastic

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I don't know if you can get the rest for this recipe but it would be a good start. TFA Banana Nut Bread is a fantastic flavor on it's own so I would try that and go from there.

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by videogamingtownabout 8 years ago

Didn't see a thread to ask for recipes , I'm looking for a really sweet vape to temporarily replace my Strawberry milkshake ADV, i have the following flavors available.

Bavarian Cream (TPA) Cream Fresh (FA) Lemonade (Natural) (FW) Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA) Strawberry (TPA) Strawberry Lemonade (ooo) Vienna Cream (FA)

Can anyone recommend anything?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

The thread is there.

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by videogamingtownabout 8 years ago

it wasn't put up until an hour after i posted, i'll move there .

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by benjaminbutthurtabout 8 years ago

Trying to pull my first order together but most of the vendors on the side bar either don't post internationally or they do but for a price over 100 percent of the cost of the actual order. Any internationals here that can recommend vendors that do nic/vg/bottles/flavours the whole shebang with reasonable postage to Australia? Thanks team!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

VapourEyes?

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by benjaminbutthurtabout 8 years ago

Thanks :)

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by scoobsabout 8 years ago

Hey man im in aus too and i order my nic from Mixology in NZ

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Hello. Just started mixing today!

I got pre mixed VGPG base with Nic shots and flavours. One of the flavours ive made is FW Pink Lemonade at 11% but it's really grapefruity and quite sour. What can I add to this to help the taste?

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by HashSlingingSlashurabout 8 years ago

I'd start by using less. Start around 5% and work from there. What other flavors do you have?

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by kindgroundabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

All you can do with this batch is maybe add a little sweetener or Ethyl Maltol (Cotton Candy) to try and mask the over flavoring.

As suggested, next time start at 5% and work your way up until you like it. Flavor West is usually around 5% for single flavors. Other companies like Inawera, FlavourArt, and Flavorah are stronger and around 1-2% for single flavors.

Every brand and every flavor is different. Start low and work your way up. You can add more drops to a bottle but you can't take them away.

2 points
 
by jeebz_about 8 years ago

I have peaches and cream Blueberry extra Glazed donut

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by Captorjohnabout 8 years ago

Whats the best way to add vg to your mix? I am currently using a small funnel, filling some old 120ml plastic bottles. I preheat the vg in a pan of hot water(ketchup dispenser). It just hangs in the funnel. I am going to assume that a wider bottle opening will maybe solve this issue. Or not.

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by Diyalexhabout 8 years ago

I use a condiment bottle

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by djrider69about 8 years ago

Why not just put the nozzle in and squeeze? Works for me,,

2 points
 
by kindgroundabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I have these funnels that jam into the bottle with no room. I just fill the funnel then pick up the whole thing and squeeze the bottle repeatedly until the funnel is empty. Repeat until done.

TLDR: I need new funnels.

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by Captorjohnabout 8 years ago

woot, I will try that next time, thanks...

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

I also have another question

As a new mixer I've only bought about 4 flavours which seemed nice to me.

How did you guys build your collection of flavourings and know which ones to buy? It just seems so vast out there that I'm getting a headache.

I've got a few one shots from ChefsFlavours coming but just wondering about others

2 points
 
by nw167about 8 years ago

Trial and error mostly in my case. I have so many flavours that I have no use for.

The usual advice is to find recipes that sounds good and is highly rated, and buy those flavours, then build up your collection from there.

Do you want to build up a big collection so you can sit there concocting and engineering your own recipes? Or do you just want to get a few nice flavours so you can make a small variety of juice that doesn't cost much? For the former, you're gonna end up spending a lot of money on stuff just to test and play around with. For the latter, you'd be better off letting us know what kinda stuff you like and asking for advice on specifically which concentrates would be a wise investment.

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Oh okay thank you.

And no definitely no concocting needed. I like a specific type of liquid flavour; Lemonades, Fruity, Fizzy, Beverages etc. I'd like to try out some dessert flavours and pastries etc but not sure which ones.

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by nw167about 8 years ago

You definitely want to get some LA Lemonade, 5% is a good place to start with it. It's nice on its own and mixes well with other fruits. TFA Strawberry goes nicely with it.

CAP Harvest Berry is another nice one which works well stand-alone.

I'm not really into dessert flavours, LA Banana Cream is about the closest I go, recommend getting that too.

TFA Dragon Fruit is a must if you like fruity stuff.

2 points
 
by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

I just keep an eye on the recipes being posted to this subreddit and alltheflavors.com, and make a list of the recipes I want to make if I don't have everything I need. Then, when the list is pretty long, I just use that as a reference to make an order of the flavorings I need =) ^please ^^help ^^^me

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by padishar123about 8 years ago

Yup this is what I do as well. I've been mixing for 6 months and hsve about 150 flavors. I split the costs with two friends but do all the labor so they basically fund my flavor chasing addiction.

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Another question..

Mixed a batch of Vampire Vape Heisenberg concentrate at 6mg 12%

It tastes really perfumey and too fragrant. Can I mute this in the batch I've made? Leaves my lips feeling really weird after.

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

also have you let it steep yet? the Anise in it will settle down in a week.

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Think I'll let it steep for a few days then

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

You can add more base to it. Ie if you have mixed 30ml at 70vg 30pg 6mg you can add another 10ml of unflavoured 70vg 30pg 6mg. This will reduce the total % of flavoring

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Would I need to add Nic too? I've got pre mixed base and Nic shots

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yes if you want it to stay at 6mg. How much have u mixed up?

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by Nrenee918about 8 years ago

Question for those of you familiar with ATF... TPA Honeydew and Honeydew II, are they considered the same thing here? I can only find honeydew. Thanks in advance!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4au3z5/tfa_honeydew_ii_new_flavor/

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by Nrenee918about 8 years ago

Damnit thanks for this. I definitely should have searched. I still can't find it on ATF though. Hopefully it'll be added soon.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Do you have Honeydew II?

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by shubhamdrakabout 8 years ago

I live in a ****hole in the middle of nowhere called Mauritius. The laws here about e liquids and e cigarettes are not very clear. Visitors can bring their e liquids in their luggage but we are not able to buy e liquids and have them shipped to us. If we do so they will most probably be seized by customs. I'm thinking of making my own liquids and selling them but getting the supplies needed (pg, vg, nic, flavourings, etc) is a real pain in the ass. Good flavourings like TPA, Capella, Inawera, etc are not available here. Also, I'm not sure if I could procure myself some pg, vg or nic locally. The shipping cost for about $3 of TPA flavourings is approximately $60 on some websites. Not gonna buy those ofc. I have a relative that's gonna be visiting from the UK in a few weeks and I'll have her bring some flavourings for me from there. Other than that there doesn't seem any way for me to get the supplies. Is there any way I could get those supplies at an affordable cost on this Island I live in or do I have to die of lung cancer?

TL;DR - I live in Mauritius where e liquids can't be shipped to because of shitty and unclear laws. Need help procuring diy e liquid supplies to make own liquid.

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by ID10-Tabout 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Post this on the front page for visibility, maybe someone will be able to help you. If anyone tells you it belongs here, tell them a mod said it was OK. We can always delete it after you get some answers. Or leave it up in case some other Maurtian comes along and does a search here looking for this sort of potentially life-saving information.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

The problem is usually nicotine, if your friend could bring some of that safely through customs, it should be possible to have the rest shipped. Though I'd make pretty small orders every time in case they get seized.

And if you go for simple recipes using strong concentrates, such as FA or INW, even a small bottle could last a very long time.

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by UIUXThrowawayabout 8 years ago

Off topic, but I actually had never heard of Mauritius until literally this morning. I saw it on Snapchat's new map thing. Actually looks like a really pretty place, eLiquid confusion aside.

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by dom1ngaabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

i don't live in US and shipping costs can be ~20-60$ (or even higher). try to compare shipping costs for one flavour vs 10 vs 20 vs 30 and track the difference. even with expensive shipping getting flavours from US is more than 2 times cheaper compared to local vape shops (they sell 30ml TFA flavours for ~13USD).

before making order try to contact flavour/nicotine suppliers support and ask them what they going to write to customs declaration. and ask them can they write something like "food flavouring" at everything. mb even put nicotine into some flavour bottles. i don't think that customs will smell each flavour if they will have any questions. also it's up to you how to use these flavours. they may be used for food. so actually you and supplier will tell the truth which may sound good in terms of your local laws.

country where i live have no issues with nicotine import. but one nicotine supplier sent nicotine to me with label "food flavouring". it was no need in that and i'm not asked for that. so what i proposed above may work for you

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by zachthompson4708about 8 years ago

So I'm new to vaping in general, started last week, and I can already tell store bought ejuice is gonna end up costing me an arm and a leg. Anyone here have a recommendation for a simple fruity recipe that will work on a sub-ohm tank? (70/30 VG/PG or more preferably) Also I'm that guy who doesn't want nicotine...

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Backwoods Lemonade

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by Apexifiedabout 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

I feel like you might have a bias for that recipe ;)

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by xdjinwonabout 8 years ago

Hey I've been meaning to get into mixing. I've done a decent amount of research through reading forums and watching videos. Now that I'm ready to take the next step, what vendors do you guys recommend for buying necessary supplies such as pg/vg, syringes, bottles, and flavoring?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

If you haven't already, check out the sidebar here for even more info. There's a list of vendors there. A few of the more popular ones are Bull City Flavors, GremlinDIY, EcigExpress and Heartland Vapes, if you are in the US. I recommend skipping the syringes, buying a scale and mixing by weight, instead.

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by xdjinwonabout 8 years ago

Do most flavoring come with a dropper?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

If you order from the sites I listed, all their bottles 30 ml and under have dropper tips.

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Any must have flavourings to get? I'm a fan of fruity vapes but also like pastry ones too.. thanks

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

TFA Dragonfruit (not for the flavor, but for its purpose in fruit mixes), CAP Italian Lemon Sicily, TFA Strawberry, JF Sweet Strawberry, TFA Pear, FA Fuji, if you like blueberry: FW Blueberry, TFA Blueberry Extra and FA Bilberry are the three to use together. INW Cactus is quite useful as an additive. INW Peach.

INW Biscuit, CAP Sugar Cookie, FA Cookie, FA Liquid Amber. I could keep going on and on. If you are just starting out mixing, I'd stick to some highly rated recipes first.

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by vApe_Escapeabout 8 years agoTobacconist

What is your normal ratio for a Blueberry/B. Extra/Bilberry combo?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Percentages are 3/4/0.5

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by Diyalexhabout 8 years ago

Check out "my first order" on the side bar and the top 100 on alltheflavors.com

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by shubhamdrakabout 8 years ago

I'm looking for good tobacco recipes to help transition from regular cigarettes to e cigs for use on MTL setups. Help me out.

2 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

I don't mix a lot of recipes from others, but I make a lot of my own. I'll give you some of my favorites.

Durry Air - I'm working on a new version of this, but this original is good. Created this to help out someone on here.

Smoking Popes - Not cigarette, but you'll have a hard time creating something that tastes like a cigarette. Good though.

Old English Style - English style pipe. Pretty strong.

Brigade 2506 - This is one of my favorites. You'll notice INW Black for Pipe is a common theme. It's my favorite, and this recipe really showcases it well.

In my opinion, stay away from Flavour Art tobaccos. Others like them, I do not really.

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by xXBROKEN81Xxabout 8 years ago

Has anyone cloned chubba bubble watermelon and chubba bubble apple?

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Try the clone request thread

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by xXBROKEN81Xxabout 8 years ago

Sorry

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Oh no worries, just think you'll have better luck there

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by PinkSprinkledDonutabout 8 years ago

Just put in my first order yesterday!

Is it possible to rinse and reuse PET squeeze bottles for ejuice? I bought 30 50ml bottles with my order. I just hate tossing plastic after using it once.

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by N3moHoesabout 8 years ago

Sure you can. The only issue you may have is with flavours like Melons or maybe Peppermint come to mind. Some flavours impart themselves into the plastic which can then transfer to the liquid you put in the bottle next. In my experience it's best to use glass for really strong flavours.

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by PinkSprinkledDonutabout 8 years ago

Alright, thanks!

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Another stupid question! I'm looking at E liquid recipes site to find some recipes to make. Most of them have nicotine as 72mg 100% or something.

I have 18mg VG Nic shots so how do I translate the recipe to this nicotine?

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Click on the blue wrench and select 'Adapt Recipe' then you can change the ratio of VG/PG, nicotine strength and base along with the amount to make.

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by jeebz_about 8 years ago

Fabulous. Thank you v much

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by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Having myself a heck of a time with All The Flavors. Was going to move all of my tried and true recipes there, and I hit a road block on the very first one. It seems that INW Tobacco Absolute Cuban Cigar isn't on the site anywhere, so I can't add it to my recipe. The box for brand won't let me put anything, and won't let me save if it's blank. Couldn't find anywhere on there to add the flavor to the site. Help me.

Edit: I think I figured it out. Seems you have to message them so they can add it.

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

You have to enter the flavor name in the second box, not the brand, and a drop down appears with every brand that has that flavoring or close to the spelling you input. You click on the flavor that you want and it auto fills the proper brand.

I think Tobacco Absolute Cuban Cigar is under 'Tobacco Absolute Garuda' or 'Cuba Cigar' one of the two. I'm not real sure on that one.

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by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

There's a couple I've found so far they don't have added to the site. Seems I have to message them so they can add it. Garuda is on there, but they don't have the Cuban Cigar Tobacco Absolute. I guess I'll have to go through my inventory and check to see if they have it so I can request them to add them all. Kind of a pain, but I've already paid for a year so I might as well.

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

They seem to really good about adding flavorings but they have missed some from what I've seen. It might be a pain but it's better than the alternative like ELR having 200+ of the same flavor entered.

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by uwotleventabout 8 years ago

Will pg help me reduce oxidized nicotines sourness? My mix is 90-10 but sourness makes it painful in both mouth and throat (I only have some pg with me until my VG arrives in the next few days).

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Your mix is 90 PG/ 10VG?

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by uwotleventabout 8 years ago

Ha, no 90vg 10pg, I forgot this mix in my cars glove box for 2 weeks, it steeped nicely but throat hit is extreme, it almost makes my throat numb after 2 hits.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

There's nothing you can do to save that. Exposure to extreme heat actually ruins your juice.

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by Severian71about 8 years ago

Adding more PG is unlikely to reduce throat hit. I started vaping long enough ago that VG was considered an exotic ingredient, and IIRC most of the juice I initially vaped was 24mg, 100% PG, mixed with standalone and pretty awful cheap Chinese flavors.

Well, the juice had some throat hit, and the flavors definitely came through. But really, better to just not let the nic go bad. Starting from good nic might help- I know Carolina is pricey, but it is, IMHO, worth it.

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by bernjc3about 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I finally got to taste the PB&J recipe I've been working on after a nice 2.5 week steep. I'm fairly happy with how it came out and think I got super close to what I'm aiming for on the first go, which surprised me. Anyways, I feel like it needs something to tie it all together and just make it a complete recipe. Here's what I currently mixed:
 

Qty|Flavor :--:|:--- 1% | (INW) Biscuit 2% | (TPA) Cheesecake (graham Crust) 6% | (TPA) Peanut Butter 3% | (TPA) Strawberry 5% | (TPA) Strawberry (ripe) 2.5% | (TPA) Vanilla Swirl
 
Right now I'm thinking I could do a few things. Lower the vanilla swirl and CGC a little, raise the strawberry ripe to 6% or strawberry to 4% (not sure which I'd like more, candied or naturalish), and add Dragonfruit to bring the strawberry together. Also thinking that Cinnamon Danish swirl could work really well at .5% or something.
 
Honestly it's pretty good where it is but just needs that umpff to bring it all together and I'm not quite sure what that should be.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I don't know what your purpose for the Vanilla Swirl is in your recipe. You may be able to leave it out. A bit of AP may help you here

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by bernjc3about 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Well the Vanilla Swirl is to give the peanut butter less of a natural whole foods kind of peanut butter and more of a creamy JiF. I may be able to achieve that with just Vanilla Swirl or just Cheescake, maybe not both.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

Have you seen the DIYorDieVaping.com recipe "Blackout" by enyawreklaw? It's just a straight peanut butter vape, and it's one of my faves. I agree with you, TPA PB definitely needs some help to taste like the good, creamy and sweet store-bought peanut butter we are familiar with. If you check out Blackout, you'll see what Wayne did to achieve this. I don't think the Vanilla Swirl is a bad idea, but I don't really think the Cheesecake belongs here. If I were making this recipe, I would try replacing both of those with a little bit of FA Caramel, FW Hazelnut, and use Bavarian Cream instead of Vanilla Swirl.
 
For you I might even recommend making Blackout as written as a one-shot concentrate, and then using that concentrate for the PB part of the sandwich somewhere around 10%. Then you will have room to add in bread and jam. Strawberry jam is pretty easy to mix up, and people have accomplished toast/bread in several different ways. It's not the easiest profile to begin with , though!

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Have you checked out /r/GooberGrapeVape?

You can probably find better info there as they're trying to create a PB & Jelly sandwich.

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by bernjc3about 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I had never even heard of it. Thanks, I'll check it out!

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Just peanut butter and jelly wouldn't really appeal to me without a sandwich to put it on. Perhaps it's the bread part you feel is missing? Upping the PB&J percentages won't help and adding more flavors will just make it a muddled mess. I'd focus on adjusting or replacing the Biscuit, Cheesecake and Vanilla.

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by kyler032about 8 years ago

are you allowed to send nic juice threw usps?

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

That's how every vendor online sends them.

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by kindgroundabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Shit! I've been using carrier pigeons this whole time!

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

That's incredibly irresponsible of you!

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You can send anything through USPS as long as it isn't hazardous

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by ChaoticPeacesabout 8 years ago

Very new to DIY but love it already! Couple questions I could not find answers for (I did try & search here!) & would appreciate any help:

  1. How much hand-shaking for a shake & vape recipe? Like 20 min continuous? Or whenever all the psychidelic swirls go away? Better to shake intermittently and steep overnight?

  2. How much room is optimal to leave in bottles? I've been filling them 90- 95% full. Is it better to leave extra room for shake and vape recipes so they mix more efficiently quicker?

Thank you in advance and to all here who answer all these (probably repetitive) newbie questions!

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by chewymidgetabout 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I shake until it looks evenly mixed, no strips of separation visible. Usually a minute depending on the head room. Depends on the recipe for a steep mainly fruity recipes can be a shake and vape outside of that it's not common. Even then the mixes usually benefit from sitting a day or so at least.

I leave as little headroom as possible usually. This is just out of personal preference. I make a 30ml in a 30ml bottle and there is usually enough air to mix it. Leaving extra headroom doesn't make things steep faster. It doesn't matter how much you have it's all the same when it comes to a steep.

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by ChaoticPeacesabout 8 years ago

Thank you! Yeah, since I dislike any cream/bakery/dessert flavorings in my ejuice, I realized the plus side of that is most of the recipes I like are shake and vape or don't need much steeping time.

And, yeah, I've been filling 10 mL bottles with 10 mL and the bottles still seem to have plenty of room to shake, so that works! Appreciate your help!

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by padishar123about 8 years ago

I short bottles 10% to make shaking easier. So 27 ml for a 30 ml bottle. I put them in a warm (not hot) bath for approx 60 seconds just prior to shaking to thin the vg out. I use a vortex mixer I got cheap off eBay and just go until it looks consistent. Just hold it up to the light and look for an oily looking streak. If you see that keep shaking. And yes 30-60 seconds is plenty. I usually shake again before I vape off the bottle the first time for good measure.

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by ChaoticPeacesabout 8 years ago

Ok, cool. I'd love to get some kind of mixer/stirrer with a heating element eventually, but for now, just shakin' em up 'til consistent will have to do. Thank you so much for the help!

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by ReaperNullabout 8 years ago

So I just started my foray into DIY with three One Shots. As I'm sitting there struggling to get 7ml of VG into my syringe, I search this sub. One my next two bottles it was much easier after I took of the damn 18g tip.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

You double posted btw.

Using a syringe for VG is the worst. I use a condiment bottle for each PG and VG. And I just add the VG last, so all I have to do is fill the bottle up to the top & im good.

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by HUNS0N_ABADEERabout 8 years ago

Newish mixer here. I was doing Dark for Pipe (INW) 3.3% + DNB (INW) 0.8% for a few batches & enjoyed it shake & vape-ish. Now I walked away from it for a bit & came back & the recipe seemed harsh. I added an eyeball amount of Shisha Vanilla (INW) to my last 30ml's, which turned out ok.

So, my question is does anyone know a good % amount for those three flavors offhand? I was thinking DfP 3% + DNB 0.5% + ShVan 1 - 1.5% would that be reasonable?
e: I also have Marshmallow on hand for a sweetener if anyone has any ideas with that.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

Yeah that should be just fine! I would probably just do 1 drop per 10ml of DNB and 1% Shisha Vanilla. You should try INW Gold Ducat

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by HUNS0N_ABADEERabout 8 years ago

I'm such an idiot I messed up the tip on my shisha flavor bottle! Now it's a pain in the ass D: I should transfer it to another bottle, but I hate to use a 30ml glass for just less than 10 of flavor :|

But yea thanks I'll try that :) And I do wanna try all the tobacco flavors! I like INW so far. Thanks!

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by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

> And I do wanna try all the tobacco flavors!

Prepare yourself, you're going in deep. There's a whole lot out there. I've got about 70 of them in my "active" inventory, and quite a few more that didn't make the cut. If you ever want some suggestions, hit me up. I might be able to save you some heartache.

As for your original question, it seems odd that the juice would get harsh after a while. It's usually the opposite. Have you ruled out that your nicotine may have gotten harsh? Your original numbers don't seem too crazy high. I hardly ever use DNB lower than 1% anymore because I like it dirty. And the "for Pipe" line I usually use around 2.5-3% in a mix. I don't do much with vanilla anymore, but 1-1.5% will probably work.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

Can't you just put a tip from another bottle on the Shisha Vanilla bottle?

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by kyler032about 8 years ago

should you refridgerate pg vg or flavoring?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Just keep it out of the light and away from heat

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Short answer: no

But if you live in a very hot climate, some precautions are advised.

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by hedonistmentalistabout 8 years ago

So I've been trying to recreate my all time favourite and ADP Ghost blaster by vapour eyes. The description of the juice on vapoureyes.com.au is 'A delightfully tangy Lemon/Lime Punch. Zap!' which a citrus inhale and tropical punch exhale and boy is that description bang on! For me it's exactly like breathing in boiling fresh lime juice and on that exhale that tropical PUNCHes me straight in the nuts like it's warning me to never stop vaping the stuff lest I wish to be ghosted. Now I really want to recreate it because it's costing me too much at the rate I vape it, but don't get the wrong idea and think vapoureyes is gonna lose my business because it's the only place I buy all my vape gear from so they'll still have a decent cash flow from me. I am fairly new to diys so I'm wondering if anyone's tried this juice and can steer me in the direction of a graveyard and or ghosties. The main flavour seems to clearly be lime so I've got that as main ingredient but I know I'm missing SOMETHING. I've got lime (cap) at 6%, orange mandarin (tfa) at 2%, lemon (inw) at 3% but there is just something else I'm not getting.. if anyone can help me nail my adv I would even be willing to send some dineros directly your way, cheers

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Try posting this in the Clone Request Thread.

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by hedonistmentalistabout 8 years ago

Wear wood I find that?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It's not stickied so you just have to search for it. There's a new one each month. There should be links in the sidebar as well.

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by Vapecity12345678about 8 years ago

I'm trying to create a good recipe with the RF strawberry lemonade I got a while ago but can't seem to find a quite good combo my last one tasted kind of like alien piss. But that's not what I shooting for what do you guys think of this one listed below I have yet to mix it . Does it need any tweaking to the percentages ?

Cactus INW 0.5 % Lemon Sicily FA 0.5% Dragon Fruit TPA 0.5% Strawberry lemonade RF 2% Sweet raspberry TPA 1% Shisha Vanilla INW 0.25 %

Thanks for your help as always my friends (☞゚ヮ゚)☞

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by kindgroundabout 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I would raise the RF Strawberry Lemonade to 3% and the TFA Raspberry Sweet to 4-5%. Other than that it looks pretty good.

TFA flavors are pretty weak especially Raspberry Sweet. As well, RF SC are definitely not as potent as they claim it to be.

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by Vapecity12345678about 8 years ago

Awesome much appreciated :)

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by TheRealBobSacamonoabout 8 years ago

Okay so I read the wiki so please don't crucify me. I am wanting to get into mixing but all the DIYers I know have moved on and now own juice lines and have different companies manufacture their recipes so they are unwilling to help.. My question is this:

I would like to start out with fairly small batches (a few 120s of each flavor) and wish to make three flavors ... 1) banana custard (a very banana dominant banana flavor maybe like silverback rocky but with custard instead of cookies) 2) a strawberry cheesecake 2a) blueberry cheesecake and 3) a solid, fairly sweet, fruity (maybe strawberry watermelon or strawberry honeydew)

I have looked online at liquid barn and a few other diy sites and I'm pretty sure I know the flavorings to tinker around with and I think I know the basics. But if I wish to use 120ml chubby gorilla bottles and maybe some dark glass to store the extras what type of labware and accessories should I order. Aside from liquid barns labware kit is there anything else I am going to need. I would like to start off mixing by volume and once I master the flavors start mixing by weight and I have plenty of scales lying around for when that day comes. Is there any thing I'm missing as far as beakers etc. That I should know ahout ?

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You should start mixing by weight now. You'll regret it once you find out how much easier and less of a mess it is with a scale. There's really no reason to start out mixing by volume first if you are intending to switch later. So skip any kits you find. I would also recommend buying flavors from another site like Bull City Flavors, Gremlindiy, or Ecig Express. Liquid Barn carries their own flavor line, so you might have some trouble finding recipes.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Mixing is simple, you add flavors, nicotine, PG and VG, then you shake it up. You don't need any particular gear for this, just the bottles and a scale. Or syringes, though mixing by weight is simpler than by volume. If you're mixing by weight and your bottles don't have drippers, you'll need some pipettes, but that's it.

Don't make 120 ml batches right off the bat though, start with 10 or maybe 30 ml if you must, until you've learned the ropes. Not because it's easy to screw up, but because you may not like the recipes, and it sucks having 120 ml of something you're sick of after 5 ml. Start small, start simple, scale up when you know what you're doing. Same goes for concentrates, you're better off getting a few small bottles of different flavors than a big bottle of one flavor that you might hate. Need I say you shouldn't buy a gallon of nicotine until you've tried it? :)

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by TheRealBobSacamonoabout 8 years ago

Haha good point. Thanks for the input. Do you have any nicotine suggestions? I vape a 3mg but I do wish to try a 1.5mg mix .. I would like the least amount of nic possible while still getting a satisfying throat hit.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Brandwise, I'm not from the U.S. but CXTC would get my money. As for the strength, that's the beauty of DIY, you decide. I would recommend a gradual transition over a period of time. If you're used to 3 mg, go with that for a bit, then drop to 2.5, then 2, etc, at your own pace. Drop too quickly and you'll just end up vaping more to make up for it.

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by Brother_Bob1about 8 years ago

"I would like to start out with fairly small batches (a few 120s of each flavor) " I found that syringe mixing does not lend itself to 120 Ml. volumes. A scale may be more efficient for this volume. You can start mixing 120 Ml. test batches, but you may find that this will become a little too expensive if the mix(s) fail to meet your expectations. Most folks mix differently when compared to each other. Batch size, number of flavors, number of mixes made at a session, to name a few factors, can dictate the type of DIY equipment needed to complete the job. I suggest starting out simple with making 5-10 Ml. batches by volume, see how you like your mixes, then progress with the method you like to mix by, given the desired batch sizes of your known successful mixes. Might want to watch a few You Tubes about DIY mixing and see what folks are using, equipment wise, for mixing with regard to the batch size per mix.

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by TheRealBobSacamonoabout 8 years ago

Thanks for all your help guys. Ive decided to volume mix due to your input. Y'all are awesome

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by LuxNocteabout 8 years ago

First off, a big thank you to all the folk in this sub! It has been invaluable. I just made my first order and I'm waiting for the first batch to steep.

My only regret is not purchasing any PG. Right now my juice is super thick and viscous. I haven't added the nicotine yet, I bought 50/50 PG/VG nicotine, and I think the nicotine will thin out a little. If it's still too thick, can I use distilled water to thin it a bit? I think I read that somewhere in the sidebar threads, but I'm not sure what to watch out for.

I'm using a Smok Micro and a Smok Baby Beast. Any advice on what VG/PG ratio I should aim for?

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

So, what are you vaping right now which is too thick? Just flavoring + VG? Or did you use the 50/50 stuff + flavoring? I'm just a little confused about your question but I'll try to help you out =)

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by LuxNocteabout 8 years ago

This is what I have. I haven't added the base yet.

My base is 50/50 vg/pg. I don't know how much that will thin it out. My plan is to add distilled water to make it roughly the consistency of my storebought juice. Is that a good plan?

I've heard that too much vg will gunk up my tank, I'm just worried that if it's too thick, the wicking won't absorb it well.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

If you've mixed together those flavorings and you haven't added any base (VG/pg/nicotine), you should have a very thin liquid. About the same viscosity as water.

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by loIwtfabout 8 years agoPâtissier

If you do everything as written on the calculator, you will end up with a finished product that is 22/78 PG/VG. That is a perfectly vapable ratio. No amount of VG will gunk anything up, there are many people who vape 100% VG Liquid, which is just VG + VG-based flavorings. The flavorings you are using are PG based, so that's why they are factored into the calculation that way. I still think I'm not understanding part of your question, though. You shouldn't need to add any distilled water to your juice at all. If you have everything listed on the calculator screenshot you posted, your liquid will be just like storebought juice.

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by coop34about 8 years ago

Until you can pick up some PG, you can thin it with DW if you think it needs it. It doesn't take much tho, 1-2% should thin it nicely.

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by Boondocabout 8 years ago

So I got some ws-23 @30% because I like cold but it's supposed to have less flavor muting properties than ws3 Koolada. Looking for a recommended percentage because it's supposed to be stronger than ws3 but I see recipes using it at 2% and up. That just seems insane to me.

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

It really depends on what you like I usually go for 1% for other people but 1.75 or 2% for myself.

A buddy of mine likes it at 3% but he is a weird one so theres that as well.

FYI it is actually not as strong as Koolada, I posted a link about cooling agents.

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by Boondocabout 8 years ago

Thanks for the information

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkabout 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Anytime. Let me know how you get on.

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by Captorjohnabout 8 years ago

New mixer, grateful for this sub. Whats the best way to clean/reuse plastic and glass bottles?

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by Martijn420about 8 years ago

Or rinse your bottles with water. Some of the smell may stick but u wont taste it.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Plastic isn't meant to be reused. Best way to clean bottles is soaking them in alcohol, then letting them dry.

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by leadpipe58about 8 years ago

I rinse them several times in hot water and air dry for the juice I make for myself.

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by MaryCherry10about 8 years ago

Hi there mixers, I have just received 1000mls of 100mg nic (from HeartlandVapes.) What is the best way to "decant" it? It's in a plastic jug. Amber dropper bottles and then freeze? I don't mix that much yet, I'm a beginner and my mixes are 3mg or 6mg stuff so I don't imagine I will be using it up quickly. Thanks!

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Figure out how much you'll use up during a couple of months and find some bottles to match that. Shake the heck out of the source bottle (hope you got PG base nic ;) and split it up into the smaller bottles. Glass or plastic, clear or opaque makes no difference, but dropper bottles will probably leak since the seal is just a rubber gasket.

Keep a working bottle, put the rest in the freezer. When you run out and fetch one from the freezer, let it come to room temperature and shake the heck out of it before opening.

Do note that this whole process isn't entirely necessary, but if you have high quality nic, expensive or hard to come by, it's a good way to protect your investment. If you skip this, your nic will slowly become increasingly harsh over time, depending on conditions and treatment.

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by MaryCherry10about 8 years ago

I got VG nic. Is that bad? And thanks for you advice, I will do that.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Hope you have strong arms :)

Edit: Okay I'll clarify. Nic tends to clump up, forming so called hot spots of much higher concentration, that's why you need to shake the liquid thoroughly. VG has a high viscosity compared to PG, so it's like shaking a thick syrup compared to a bottle of water. It can be quite a chore, especially with a whole liter of it. Shaking the nic is something you should do before every use anyway, so splitting it up into smaller bottles early is probably a good idea either way.

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by djrider69about 8 years ago

Less flavoring and/or more time steeping..

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by IFeedDogsChocolateabout 8 years ago

Are DIY kits worth it? Or can they be replicated cheaper? I'm wanting to start DIY but have a limited budget of $100.

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by 3423553453about 8 years ago

They're more about convenience than anything else last time I checked, the convenience of not filling your cart yourself.

Maybe you need those accessories and you'd need to other them elsewhere and pay another shipping fee etc.

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by IFeedDogsChocolateabout 8 years ago

Is liquid barn my best bet? Idc to do it my self, I thought that the kits may be cheaper due to their bulk order they use to throw the kits together.

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by EdibleMalfunctionabout 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Liquid Barn sells their own flavorings. I would not recommend starting out with something you will not find recipes for. That's one of the reasons why a kit is not recommended. You may end up with flavors you will not like. I'm not saying LB's flavors aren't bad, (they definitely have a few that I like a lot) but I wouldn't recommend a kit with only LB flavors to someone starting out.

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by 3423553453about 8 years ago

I know glycerin has a gravity of 1.26 but how does that affect volume ?

I have bottles that I graduate with water on a 0.1g scale, can I use that graduation to later mix by volume ? Or is 126g of glycerin larger in volume by comparison to 100ml of water ?

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by ChemicalBurnVictimabout 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

100 ml of water will be the same as 100 ml of VG. The VG will just weigh more.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Volume is temperature dependent. Your 126 grams of pure glycerin takes up 99.58 ml of space at 15°C and 99.87 ml at 25°C. As you can see, it expands with heat.

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by forgetfulcord54about 8 years ago

When making 10ml samples for testing flavors would adding nic to 3mg % cause changes to flavor profiles? I want to test flavors but get my fix too lol.

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by leapinglabratsabout 8 years ago

Slight but insignificant. Pretty wasteful though unless you only vape that flavor in that atomizer until you've used up the whole batch. Otherwise you'll use up a lot just wetting and replacing wicks. More importantly, single flavor samples tend to be so boring that you probably want to discard the samples after testing.

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by forgetfulcord54about 8 years ago

Gotcha! Thanks

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