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Ask away!
I am thinking about/trying to get in to DIY juice mixing. I actually started to process my orders at bull city vapor and liquid barn. Come to find out, Liquid Barn doesnt ship to Indiana (probably) due to certain laws that have since been changed. I have emailed Liquid Barn asking them if it was possible for them to open shipping up to indiana. I was curious if anyone personally recommends any other vendor that sells good quality PG/VG/Nic bases? I want to look around in case LB cant open back up shipping to Indiana.
I've never ordered from them, but I've never had any issues in Indiana with Bull City, Vaperstek, Nude Nicotine, E Cig Express, or Wizard Labs. For nic I'd suggest Vaperstek. Or are you looking for a premixed VG/PG/nic base?
Not looking for premixed bases. I Rather buy separate bases to test out different mixes. I saw bull city has their own bases and added them to my cart there just in case. Are their bases pretty good quality? I know that seems like a dumb question, but I'm just worried about getting low quality bases and have my mixes taste cheap because of it... it's hard to explain lol. Same thing with vaperstek. Is their nic pretty good?
I've made five orders from nude nic with no issues. I live in Fort Wayne indiana.
Check out the smooth nic salts. I switched to them for a less harsh vaping experience.
I haven't had any issues with Nude, but I think Vaperstek is a little better. I haven't tried any of the salts yet. I only do 3 mg and kind of like a little throat hit. Sort of used to live in Fort Wayne too. Elkhart boy now though.
i just closed down a vape company that i owned. i have tons of unopened and new bottles of everything from TFA strawberry to Cap sugar cookie everything in between get at me ill send you pics of all my inventory. i got you for way less than retail.
That's weird. I watched a YouTube video a couple months back and the guy said Liquid Barn were the only ones who would ship to him.
Indiana is a little funky because of laws that were in place from July 2016 through January of this year, when they were changed. Basically, if you wanted to manufacture or sell ecig related product in Indiana, you had to be certified to do so. Problem is, there was only 1 small security firm in the entire state that was "qualified" to to so. It hurt our vape shops pretty severely. I cant say exactly what changed in the law, but i do know it lightened some of the harsh requirements that companies had to meet in order to sell here. A lot of companies are still operating under the impression that they still cant ship to Indiana, though.
Glad to hear they're loosening up a little bit for you guys. A 7.5% tax per ml here in WV is what got me started in DIY. Which I'm ultimately glad happened. I had been like your average Joe struggling to make a bottle stretch from paycheck to paycheck. Swimming in it now though lol
As an update to my last post ... the birthday supplies from my wife turned up today (and she's insisting I start using them now even though it's a couple of weeks to my birthday) and I ended up getting (all 10ml)
CAP Pink Lemonade
CAP New York Cheesecake
CAP Cereal 27
CAP Lemon Lime
CAP Graham Cracker
CAP Vanilla Custard (v1)
TFA Mango
TFA Ripe Strawberry
INW Grapefruit
FA Fuji
FA Fresh Cream
FA Cola
RF SC Blue Raz
Thanks for all your suggestions, looking forward to trying these out :)
Please suggest a use for my useless TPA Pineapple? Everytime I mix up a recipe, it overpowers everything. TPA Pineapple has a weird throat hit as well. It isn't like vaping a 1000 needles, more like burning throat hit. I got a 30 ml of it for Lava Flow clone but so far no dice, I have about 25 ml left. I've had it for 4 months and since flavors lose potency and can go bad, if I don't find any use for it, well then it's going to the trash.
What should be my next pineapple, or couple of pineapples (different brands) to make a decent pineapple concentrate?
TFA Pineapple is one of those flavors that ruins recipes for me. Even in very small quantities it just tastes off to me, to the point where it makes me wonder if I taste it differently than other people. Cap Golden Pineapple and Inawera Pineapple are much better imo.
After going to my local vape shop yesterday to buy some replacement coils, I purchased a 30ml of the shop's boo berry cereal. I don't usually buy shop-made juices, as ive been mixing for a year or so, just following recipes online mind you, but i just got paid, and i wanted to see if they had anything noteworthy. OH MAMA, this juice is incredible, i cant get over it.
I thought to myself, theres no way they didnt just find a recipe online, and make it from there, its a fairly small shop with ~2 employees at any time, so i can't imagine they are doing any experimenting, mixing and blending flavors in the back of the shop to develop their own blends.
My question: how closely do you guys think their boo-berry is to say https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4qrd3p/july_2016_recipe_thread/d4vdyd2/?context=3 ?
I cant see a local shop selling juices with dyketones or sucrose, so I want to know what you guys think they are doing to deliver such a powerful, and on-point flavor?
Also, if you have a boo berry recipes, please reply or comment me, as I will not stop until I have something close to this flavor. Its awesome.
Try it out. You might want to replace FW Yellow Cake with JF Yellow Cake, though
second question: what tank/build do the majority of you guys use? I've been using the cleito up until yesterday, and now the cleito xo because i cant stand leaky juice all over my everything. But if there is a unanimous RDA forgetting the most out of vaping DIY juices, in terms of cloud and flavor, I'd love to know!
I use the Derringer clone from fasttech for testing. Ive Got a couple of them, they were like $6. With a single coil build on it. For flavor RDAs you're gonna want something small and limited airflow like the Derringer or the hadaly
For daily use I've been using a troll RTA and a serpent mini 25. In the past I've used a gemini mega RTA, smok TFV8 rba, and serpent Alto. Any decent modern rta should be good to go.
As for sub ohm tanks, I don't have much experience but my buddy who buys my juice uses a crown 2 and a crown 3. Both of those have awesome flavor and he enjoys my stuff using those devices. Also the tobeco super tank mini
do you build your own coils, or could one buy those little coil loops online for pretty cheap? in the past, ive tried building my own coils, but could never manage to get a nice-looking, tight-looped coil
Yep I have a whole *kit for building. I normally just use round wire or some prebuilt spools of claptons. With a kit like this you could make some nice coils easily. Or you can buy prebuilt coils for pretty cheap from companies like uwell.
I've found small, single-coil RDAs to work the best. The Hadaly is my go-to, but for those with less of a budget, I'd suggest the Oumier Wasp because it's a very similar design for about 1/8 the price.
Hey, it's you ! I just mixed 240ml of your gods milk recipe on alltheflavors, I'm going to let it steep a full week if I can, but I'm currently out of juice aside from 5ml of vape shop boo-berry
How long is it possible to store nicotine in the freezer without it turning bad?
My 100mg/ml nic in PG, amber glass with polycone cap, is dated May 2016, still good.
If you haven't saw it, "all about nicotine" in the sidebar lays out proper long term storage pretty well.
On top of what coop said I've seen people on here store it for 2.5+ years with it being almost the same as when they bought it.
Hi,
I'm really looking for a mix with this essences, but i can't really find any decent combination for them on my actual stash. i can't spend anymore now but i like to ask if anyone sees any combination that i can do with this flavors:
- Cofffee TPA
- Peppermint CAP
- Grapefruit (Inawera)
- Candy Watermelon FA
- Koolada TPA
These flavors are simply lost in my stash, i can't find any good recipie to try with them, i'd appreciate any help!
My stash link:
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/publicstash/75319
Thanks a lot!
I understand that VG/PG ratios affect the steep time of recipes when they are made, but with that in mind, other than throat hit, what else does this impact? Will I really notice a difference between 60/40, 70/30, and 80/20? I usually just mix things in the 70/30-80/20 range, but I've never really noticed a difference.
VG = Higher viscosity, significant clouds, less throat hit, less flavor, some sweetness.
PG = Lower viscosity, almost no clouds, more throat hit, more flavor, some bitterness.
The way you balance them has a large impact on the experience, the difference between 60/40 and 80/20 VG/PG is very noticeable.
I'm buying a large order of flavorings, the issue I'm having is finding a place to order all the flavorings at once. Here are the flavorings I want to order. (Should I order certain flavor brands from different places?)
TFA strawberry 120 ml
TFA Strawberry Ripe 120ml
CAP Vanilla Custard 30 ml
TFA Vanilla Swirl 30ml
TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust 30ml
INW Biscuit 30ml
FA Cream Fresh 30ml
CAP Lemon Lime 30ml
FA Kiwi 60ml
TFA Kentucky Bourbon 30ml
INW Marzipan 30ml
FW Fruit Rings 30ml
CAP Lemon Meringue Pie 30ml
TFA Marshmallow 30ml
TFA Raspberry Sweet 30ml
CAP Graham Cracker 30ml
FW Crunch Berries 30ml
INW Cactus 30ml
LA Lemonade 30ml
FA Lemon Sicily 30ml
FA fuji 30ml
FW Bavarian cream 30ml
TFA butter 30ml
TFA dragonfruit 30ml
Fa dragonfruit 30ml
INW grapes 30ml
INW raspberry 30ml
CAP sweet strawberry 30ml
CAP cereal 27 30ml
TFA rice crunchies 30ml
CAP sweet cream 30ml
FA custard 30ml
CAP golden butter 30ml
CAP juicy lemon 30ml
TFA jackfruit 30ml
FLV mango 60ml
FA Meringue 30ml
CAP sweet strawberry 60ml
TFA Bavarian cream 30ml
FA vienna cream 30ml
Fw Lemon Meringue Pie 30ml
Tfa pie crust 30ml
Tfa Rice crunchies 30ml
Flv Cream 30ml
Tfa Honeysuckle 30ml
Inw shisha vanilla 30ml
Fw blood orange 30ml
Tfa Orange cream 30ml
Cap sweet Tangerine 30ml
Tfa Koolada 30ml
Fa red touch 30ml
Inw shisha strawberry 30ml
Tfa Banana cream 30ml
La Banana cream 30 ml
Cap butter cream 30ml
Looking at your list, BCF should have all of those. Do you have recipes for all those flavors? Because that's a lot for a first timer
I can spot Grack Juice, Sadlads, Pebbles, Lemon Tart remix, Longing, Vurves Lemonade and a bunch of Strawberry milks (CheebaSteeba and Skiddlz for sure) in that list so it looks to be a greatest hits compilation from ATF.
I would agree with both Edible and Chewy though, perhaps consider ordering 10ml bottles for the flavorings that don't pop up in multiple recipes. For example, I doubt you will struggle to make your way through 30ml of CAP Vanilla Custard where as you might find 30ml of TFA Pie Crust to be harder to finish.
Check out the percentages as well to give you an idea of which bottles you might need larger volumes of. Using the example above if you mix up 200ml of Sadlads Cinnamon Toast Crunch (which is a fantastic recipe) you will only use 1.5ml of TFA Pie Crust.
This means you would need to mix 4 liters of Sadlads to finish the 30ml bottle. At which point you would have needed 120ml of CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl to mix that much.
Hope this helps a bit!
These are my current flavors at the moment, do the flavors I'm ordering look like a good addition?
Acetyl Pyrazine 5% (TPA)
Almond (FA)
Apple Pie (FA)
Banana Cream (TPA)
Bavarian Cream (TPA)
Berry (Crunch) Cereal (TPA)
Black Cherry (FA)
Blood Orange (Natural) (FW)
Blueberry (TPA)
Cake (Yellow) (FW)
Candy Cane (FW)
Candy Watermelon (FW)
Caramel (FA)
Chocolate (TPA)
Cinnamon Ceylon (FA)
Cinnamon Danish Swirl (Cap)
Cinnamon Roll (FW)
Cola (FW)
Cookie (Biscotto) (FA)
Cool Mint (Cap)
Cotton Candy (Flavor West)
Cream Cheese Icing (LA)
Dragonfruit (TPA)
DX Banana Cream (TPA)
DX Bavarian Cream (TPA)
DX Brown Sugar (TPA)
DX Coconut Candy (TPA)
DX Milk Chocolate (TPA)
DX Peanut Butter (TPA)
Ethyl Vanillin 10% (TPA)
Fruit Circles (TPA)
Fruit Circles with Milk (TPA)
Fruity Flakes (FW)
Fudge Brownie (TPA)
Fuji Apple (FA)
Graham Cracker (Clear) (TPA)
Green Tea (FE)
Hard Candy (FW)
Hazelnut (FW)
Honey (FA)
Horchata (TPA)
Joy (FA)
Jungle Juice (FW)
Lemon Lime (Cap)
Marshmallow (FA)
Marshmallow (FW)
Max Dew (TPA)
Meringue (FA)
Monstrous (FW)
Peach (FW)
Peach (TPA)
Peanut Butter (TPA)
Pistachio (FA)
Pomegranate (TPA)
Rich Cinnamon (Flavorah)
Ripe Banana (TPA)
Sugar Cookie (Cap)
Sweet Cream (TPA)
Toasted Marshmallow (TPA)
Unicorn Vomit (FW)
Vanilla Bean Ice Cream (TPA)
Vanilla Whipped Cream (Cap)
Vienna Cream (FA)
Watermelon (FW)
White Chocolate (TPA)
White Peach (FA)
On top of what /u/EdibleMalfunction said you're ordering large quantities of flavors you're probably not going to use very often.
You'd save a lot of money cutting some of those sizes in at least half. Especially if you don't have recipes for all those.
I just pulled a 5% Solo 70% VG TFA Sweet raspberry out of steep after three days, and it's really harsh on my throat. I know it's not the nic that I'm using because this particular recipe has worked great for all of the other 5% solo flavors that I've tried so far (6 so far). It's like it is super drying.
I'm using the same setup as about half of the flavors - I wash my coils in denatured alcohol overnight, then in water overnight, then dry them for about a week. This has gotten me basically brand-new coils for either the Atlantis Evo or the Nautilis X that I'm trying it in.
Does it need more sleep time? It's on 4 days so far. Would an addition of a "smooth" additive help with something like this?
> I wash my coils in denatured alcohol overnight
Where did you get this idea? So you soak the coil and cotton in this solution overnight?
You know they add chemicals to it to make it poisonous to discourage consumption, right? You're inhaling that stuff...
I'm guessing that your problem stems from this method of cleaning.
This method of cleaning has worked great for the coils I've tried other solo flavors that I have made... I always soak and agitate the in water overnight after using the alcohol, and then dry them for a week. Any additives to the alcohol should be washed out with the water bath and agitation. The alcohol just is to remove the buildup on the wires. It's worked great so far for the last year on non diy ejuice and over the last couple weeks for trying out the diy ones as well. I really don't think it's a problem with the coils.
With a sealed container, I wouldn't be inhaling it anymore than I would be cleaning my windows with Windex. Less.
But I appreciate that it does sound weird, I came at it through trying many different things and long professional experience with cleaning cotton semi professionally (green upholstery cleaning) and denatured alcohol is actually very easy to clean out of the cotton with water with patience.
I personally wouldn't use that; it has some really nasty stuff in it. Just straight bottom shelf vodka would be just the same without the nasty chemicals that come with denatured alcohol.
Anyways, I find TFA Raspberry sweet to be rather quite strong. I have never used it over 3% personally. I also found some people reported that it can be rather harsh at higher percentages for some. Have you tried using it at 3% or less?
Hello everybody!
I'm attempting to create new ice cream recipe (first try) and I would like some advice. I need some help coming up with my ice cream base. Here's a list of what "creamy" flavors I have. Could someone make some suggestions on whether or not I have the right ingredients to make a decent base, and what percentages to use?
FA Cream Fresh
TPA Ethyl Vanillin 10%
TPA French Vanilla
TPA French Vanilla Cream
CAP Marshmallow
FW Marshmallow
FA Meringue
FW Sweet Cream
TPA VBIC
TPA Vanilla Swirl
Holy crap, I have way more vanilla than I thought. I'm after a light, refreshing ice cream base. I thought VBIC would give me what I was looking for, but I get a very heavy butter taste from it, and it's just a little much to be honest. Frankly, I'm glad I don't get the pepper tongue from it! Any help is greatly appreciated!
TL;DR - Need help mixing a light, creamy ice cream base.
How much VBIC are you getting a very heavy butter taste from?
The only thing I have used it in so far is Mustard Milk, and the recipe calls for 8%. I'm thinking that I will need to use VBIC in my base to get the flavor I'm going for, but at a much lower percentage.
Yes, that's what I was going to say, try it again, at a much lower %. The problem with trying to create an "ice cream base" is that it which ice cream base works best is going to vary depending on what other ingredients you're using. Customized cream to fit the other other ingredients is always going to work better than some kind of attempt at a one-size-fits-all ice cream base. Or "stone" or "layer" or whatever you want to call it. But that doesn't mean it's a bad idea to have a go-to starting place to mix up your first batch and then adjust from there. Thank the juice gods you're not a pepper taster and try: 4% VBIC, 1% Cream Fresh, 0.5% Meringue.
Milky Chocolate, Hazelnut, Coconut ? That is the profile i want to vape a candy like profile. Now I am thinking of TFA Coconut Candy, I got no clue about Hazelnut and Milky Chocolate as there is a whole lot of Chocolate out there. Help is much appreciated.
I tried FA Coconut and did not like it at allllllllllll. It seems to ruin every mix i make.
TFA Coconut Candy is the right coconut for that job. You might find yourself ending up using FA Hazelnut, TFA Hazelnut, or some other hazelnut in the end, but I would start with FW Hazelnut because even if it's not the best fit for your candybar, you'll eventually find plenty of other uses for it. It's a real workhorse, that one.
I like FLV Milk Chocolate combined with FLV Sweet Coconut, but you're right, there are a lot of chocolates out there. It would be easier to list which chocolates to avoid than which ones might work.
Thanks ... What do you think of flv chocolate deutsch looks like it have chocolate and coconut combined i can get away with the cake taste as long as it's not like FA Joy (Very doughy) maybe a lil bit of Hazelnut and ready to go ? What do you think ?
What ratio should i mix TPA Blueberry extra and FA bilberry?
Pick up FW Blueberry as well if you want a fully realized Blueberry. Your percentages will look like this:
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TPA Blueberry Extra 4.0%
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FW Blueberry 3.0%
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FA Bilberry 0.5%
I am ordering a bottle of fluffy ejuice the one juice i cant clone or go without. Out of stock on the 3mg so i have to buy a 0mg and a steeped 6mg. After mixing the two i will get a 3mg BUT will the juice still be steeped ? or what will it be like Thanks !
What is a good comparable substitute for TFA Sweet Cream?
I'm all out, plus my vendor is out, but I need to place an order anyway.
My options are CAP, FW, FLV, or OOO Sweet Cream. Thanks!
I went bonkers and ordered 150 bottles of flavoring right off the bat. What tips can you give for making the process of flavor testing them less daunting? Also, any organizing tips? In your practice, does it make more sense to organize by brand, or by flavor profile? Alphabetical? If you wanna check out the pile and offer some suggestions for additions or recipes here's my stash link: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/publicstash/132963
As for flavor testing, don't try to test them all at once. Pick maybe 10-15 at a time, otherwise you'll just get overwhelmed. Check the average percentage for each one on ATF and mix up 5-10 ml samples. Test on an RDA with either a super short wick that you replace for each test, or a wickless build with enough wire to act as a wick.
I would test all flavors once right after mixing, after three days, and after a week. Some flavors you'll want to test at two, three and even four weeks, as they keep changing with time.
For each and every test, you'll need to take notes on the flavor. As you can tell, it's already a lot of work if you want to be methodical about it, even with just 10 flavors.
You really should have just found a few recipes and ordered flavors based on that. 150 different flavors is way too much for anyone to order at one time, let alone someone starting out.
I did order from recipes I wanted for the most part. A bunch of them come from package deals I got and are in small quantities. Many of the TPA flavors are 4mls that I got from their variety packs. I chose the variety packs because they contained flavors I needed only small amounts of and thought of it as a good opportunity to try things without investing in full bottles.
Two questions and my great beginner discovery:
- Are there any great salty flavors? I've noticed and really liked this salty note I tasted in some pre-mixes and would like to replicate it
- How much am I going to regret not steeping? What's generally the minimum steep time? I'm impatient about trying my new creations
Discovery: CAP Popcorn is awesome (and almost satisfies the salty kick I'm on), mixes nice with cakes and caramel. Anyone have recommendations or suggestions for Popcorn recipes? Is there a better Popcorn flavor out there than CAP?
Can't help with the salt and popcorn, but steeping is really a personal preference. If you like it freshly mixed, then go for it. There's not really a standard steep time that applies across the board. Some stuff can be good in a couple days, others in a month. I always have a taste of a fresh mix or single flavor, then check it again after a day, again after a week, and just keep checking it until I don't really notice a flavor change. But if you like it fresh, just do it. Maybe set some aside to compare fresh vs 2 weeks. If you like 2 weeks more, make a big batch to sit for 2 weeks. I'm pretty impatient too, but once you get a few big batches sitting around, you get in to a nice steep cycle where you've always got something steeped. It's all up to you though.
For some reason when I vape my DIY mixes I'm getting a greasy/oily feeling in my mouth. Anyone know why this might be happening?
I get that from FA Coconut, CAP Butter and some others. If you can figure out a certain concentrate that is doing it, there's nothing to worry about. If it's in all your mixes, regardless of ingredients, there might be cause for concern.
That's the odd part, it seems to happen regardless of flavors used. I think it must have to do with my VG/PG mix, I just can't figure out why.
Then I would suggest vaping the VG as is, no nic, no flavors. If that seems fine, do the same with the PG. Replace with another brand if either is the culprit. Can't say I've heard anyone complain about it before and it's not really the kind of symptoms you'd get from an allergy.
What recipes are you vaping when you experience this?
Hi,
So i have a bunch of flavors. I started to experiment a bit with mixing them and got some nice results. Some bad ones too. But now i'm a bit out of ideas. Is there a site where you can enter all flavors you have and it comes up with a bunch of recipes you can create with them?
I know this might be a bit vague but I'm having trouble with identifying what might be causing my juice to be pretty harsh.
I made a base tropical fruit blend that I'm trying to clone the Villians ejuice "Doc Holiday" (autocorrect fail I know).
I made it with FW mango at 5% and 2.5% CAP sweet guava. The term "throat hit like a donkey kick to the balls" would be a nicer feeling then what's being given from that combo. I'd like to add a white peach to it but I'm not sure if that's going to make it worst or not. Is there something dummy simple I'm missing or should I try different mango and/or guava? Or can it be my stepping process?
For the first 3 days I let it breathe because the guava has alcohol in it but still not sure what can be the issue. Thanks in advance.
Rule out that it isn't your nic that is harsh and don't breathe the juice for starters.
I used the same nic in another juice and it's the normal kind of throat hit that you should get with it. So I know for sure it's not the nic. As for not vaping it anymore I already poured it out.
I haven't tried FW Mango so I can't speak for that, but CAP Sweet Guava has never given me much throat hit. I would single test the mango and guava separately, see if you find either of them harsh on its own. If it's the combination, you could try swapping either for a different brand. I would recommend FA White Peach for the peach, but I'd probably stay under 1% for that one.
Edit: This review says there is almost no throat hit for FW Mango Natural. If anything, I'd say the "natural" version would be the harsher of the two.
Just got my first order, im concerned about the bottles i ordered , should i sterilize them with something? or Could i get away with emptying an old beardvapes glass bottle and using that to mix after rinsing?
Cleaning glassware is wise, there could be warehouse / shipping dust inside. Washing out with a little soapy water, rinsing well then boiling the bottles for a few minutes in distilled water will more than likely take care of anything that might have gotten in there. Just be sure they dry totally before mixing anything in them. Also, yes, you can reuse your old juice bottles as long as you clean them well.
Excellent, this answers one of my questions! Would you reccomend the same without the boil for plastic syringes, etc?
Does anyone know any good watermelon or ginger ale recipes. More focused on ginger ale because I have yet to find a juice that really taste like and bubbles like this juice I had a while ago. As for watermelon I can't many that use TFA watermelon is it a bad concentrate?
Juice doesn't bubble like carbonation. I don't have any recommendations for you for ginger ale. CAP Sweet Watermelon or Double Watermelon are good, LA Watermelon is another one.
I know it doesn't actually bubble ლ,ᔑ•ﺪ͟͠•ᔐ.ლ XD But thanks for the reply I was trying to find a recipe for either because I've hit my budget for ordering concentrates till the next month. (ಥ﹏ಥ)
I do have RF SC watermelon but I can't find a recipe with it
CAP Egg Nog 100%
I want some- U got some? I didn't realize this had been discontinued, I also know some of us can't stand it... I like it. If you have some to get rid of or know a vendor with old stock, I'd appreciate it/ more info.(US)
OSDIY has some left.
So i am looking for a new scale and came across this one on amazon. The largest i mix is 120ml bottles and was wondering if anyone has any experiences with this scale. Seeing as it wont get overloaded until 500g i feel like this should work for what i need. Any input or suggestions greatly welcomed.
Link to scale: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/aw/d/B00ME8VI34/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1498213951&sr=8-5&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=aws+scale&dpPl=1&dpID=41tJnpJFTdL&ref=plSrch
Not new, but I'm making 150ml - 300ml batches of basically all of the recipes I have, so I can focus on making new stuff and not running out of the juices that I like. So, for those days that I don't feel like mixing, I'll already have a bunch of juices that just need nicotine added to a 30mL bottle. For long-term, what's the best place to store juice that has already been made? I'm thinking about getting one of those little $100 mini-fridges, but if there's a cheaper way or a free way, I'm here for it
In a dark cupboard away from heat. Probably in the same spot you keep your large bottles of vg and pg.
So, free?! Sounds good to me. My closet is my own personal little abyss. Nothing but vape gear, DIY stuff, and electronics in there. It's probably only opened once or twice per week. And the AC is on practically year-round. One small thing, though. When you say light, you just mean sunlight, right? Because I keep my concentrates, VG and PG at a desk in my den, but the window has black-out curtains that never open. If I turn the lights off in here at 2pm, it looks like a sunset and that's only because of the light along the edges of the window-pane.
I've made a couple of batches of juice. I've learned that steeping is important but i still don't think I'm getting the results I'm looking for. It's so difficult to find what you want. Different flavor companies with different recommended percentages. I'm having particular trouble getting the amount of additives right. Fa sweetener, tfa sour, fa arctic menthol. Anyone know a decent starting point?
menthol isn't an additive. menthol is life.
hmmm....
damn it. i was hoping i could make that my flair
Actually menthol is only an issue when i use it as an additive. Straight 10% menthol is the only successful flavor I've made. Doesn't need to steep. Tastes the same at mix as a week later. Great for sinuses.
> Straight 10% menthol
thanks... that was... an experience.
i dripped a 10% menthol PG dilution onto cotton that already had menthol in it. It's like vaping vicks which isn't entirely unpleasant.
E: Also i just realized that by going straight from the RDA with unholy amounts of menthol to my current ADV i was able to taste it in a new light.
It's a fruity pebbles rice crispy treat, i'm trying to ~~hit the same profile~~ clone it so it's helping. some notes
Patience is a virtue, you need to keep trying recipes and flavors until you find what you like, there's really no shortcut. While doing that, you learn everything you need to know about mixing. You will come across recipes that you like as they are. You will come across recipes that you know you would like better if you made some adjustments. And you will eventually find yourself making your own recipes from scratch, because by now you know what you like and how to achieve it. A couple of batches is nothing around these parts ;)
Agree with the other comment, skip the additives for now.
Total noob with a noob question… I just ordered a bunch of flavors and want to use pipettes for measurement. How do you get the needle tip off the bottle? It does come off right? Any "tips" (pun intended)?
You mixing by weight or by volume? If volume you shouldn't use pipettes. They are way too inaccurate. You would have to use syringes for that. Pipettes work great for measuring by weight though, if your bottles don't have dropper tops on them.
Depends on the bottle. Just pull them off.
Tips are in the sidebar.
Got it. Will hold on to the pipettes til I get a scale. Just trying to do it by volume for now. Going to grab syringes now. Thank you sir.
You don't measure with pipettes. Those tips are the same tops on any plastic bottles you buy. They just pop off. But you should be mixing by weight, dripping straight from the bottle.
Hello. Here's an example of my steps to do a 3 flavour mixing to obtain a balanced eliquid.
X flavour - X producer (3-6%) Y flavour - Y producer (7-10%) Z flavour - Z producer (2-4%)
First of all I calculate the "middle" value of flavouring and then I divide the result by 3. Ex. X flavour (3+6)/3 = 3
Is that right?
Thank you for your time.
Don't do this. Flavors vary greatly in potency. I wouldn't necessarily say this formula would give you a balanced recipe
Can't understand how to balance then if I respect the average percentage divided by three (due to the amount of flavours).
I know that the best "shot" you can have it's with the "trial and deny" method, but I'm just trying to theorize something to start off with.
If you're just looking for a starting place, go ahead and try it. Be prepared to get something that doesn't taste right and need to revise it considerably, but actually be prepared do that after any starting place, regardless of how you came up with it.
Single flavor testing, at varying percentages, is the best route to getting to know your flavors. As you work your way thru this tiresome but necessary process you will begin to know the % of each flavor needed for your tastes. Then you can better balance your recipes.
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Is it ok to measure nicotine in drops, i did a mix using drops but i haven't tested yet mainly because ive seen so many people online say never to measure nic in drops (seen after i mixed). It was an 18mg nicotine bottle shot from vapable.co.uk. I made a 30ml bottle and put 65 drops directly from the nic shot into the 30ml. Is it ok to vape?
Drops are in no way an accurate form of measurement when mixing. Especially with nicotine.
i know that now, but the fact that the nicotine shot bottle is 18mg 10ml and i've only taken a small amount out of the bottle surely makes it safe enough to vape? to make 3mg for a 30ml i would add 5ml of that bottle, the nicotine bottle itself isnt at the half way point it's way above that.
It'll be safe enough, especially if you're starting from 18mg. You could vape that straight without any real risk (depending on your setup and your tolerance you might feel a bit ill.)
I'm guessing you were aiming at making 3mg from your numbers (though maybe not, depending on what you are dropping from.) I think I could probably reliably get within 20% of my target using drops, but let's say you're really inaccurate and got twice what you wanted- that would be 6mg. That's not good, if you wanted 3mg, but it's not dangerous either. But it's better to actually measure, as you want to be able to produce a consistent product.
EDIT: And on rereading a bit, what you have at the moment is likely well under 3 mg. If you added 40% of the nic it would come out to a bit over 2 mg, unless I've borked my math somehow..
So I started thinking, hot water baths are not recommended because it damages the nicotine but what if you mixed, heated then added nicotine after?
It's also likely to destroy the more delicate flavors. It's just better to use time to steep your juice.
So I made a juice for this very new vaper. He's running it through a baby beast tank on an Eleaf 200w QC. The recipe is 70/30 VG/PG
TFA Cotton Candy~ 15%
CAP Blueberry~ 5%
Nicotine 9mg/ml
Now I told him that's very high nic for that tank but he insisted. I warned him it would be harsh but he said he's been using 12mg juice and that he'd be fine. So I mixed him up a 120ml bottle and after 12-18 hours I dripped some into my Derringer clone on a mech with a single nichrome alien coil at .17. it tasted like cotton candy on the inhale and blueberries on the exhale, harsh and a slight taste of nic. He got it and now says it tasted burnt. I told him he's probably got a dud coil. Says other juice through same coil tastes fine. What happened?
You might want to make it with 2 or 3% cotton candy. That is an insanely high percentage. Like world record. In the future, I would make a smaller batch for future clientele and if they green light it. Make a bigger batch.
I got the recipe online and it was rated pretty well by like ten people. But yeah I'm definitely going to make 5-10ml samples before making bigger batches for clients. Especially recipes I've never used before.
Yeah, probably one of those perfect storms set against you. 5 or 6 peeps using EGO style vaporizers and the rest being nuts lol. I gave up on recipes about two weeks after I started DIY. If I were you and could do it all over again. I would just read the reviews here on individual flavors. They are really good about percentages as a main note, accent flavor etc.. just by doing that you'll be way tighter in the pocket with a recipe you want to make right off the bat. Good luck and cheers!
Hi. This question probably gets said a lot on here but I have been thinking of making my own juice fed up of buying out of the shops , where do I start , what the best options to start making and best place to buy from.
Thanks john .
Are you on mobile?
Hi, I just got into this whole vaping thing and really like the concept of making your own juices. There's a bunch of sites in India that deliver VG/PG/flavors, but I can't seem to find one which sells Nicotine in a PG base.
Resources would be great :)
You probably won't find any companies specific to India here. Your best bet is to check the sidebar for nicotine vendors and find one that ships internationally, whether they are based in the US, or the UK (though acquiring nicotine from the UK is a bit more troublesome now). You could also just do some research on your own through whatever search provider you use, but I'm guessing you did this already.
thanks for that! yea, i'm just a bit concerned on the customs/law aspect of shipping nicotine from another country. I think I'll just order some nic from Liquid Barn and get someone to deliver.
So I tried it with a brand-new coil on my Nautilis X, same problem. Tried it with a cleaned coil on my Cleito and the problem mostly goes away, still a little dry on the back of the tongue and the throat but nowhere near as bad as with the MTL tanks. So, still have an issue for using with half of my tanks but not as much with the Cleito.
Still wondering if it's a steep time issue (time will tell) or if this is something that a "smooth" or blend "wizard" additive would help with, or if it's just because my senses are heightened with my recent quitting of smoking cigarettes.
I do yes
You need to reply ID10-T directly for him to see it here.
Liquid Barn second order and not happy at all!
My first order worth LB went off without a hitch. Shipped the same day and I received it in three days. This time I needed the flavoring bad cause I'm out and they didn't ship the same day and now Fed Ex is estimating 7 days shipping time. They shipped it Fed Ex Smart Post which it's very slow. Like they wanted to reel me in, now crappy customer service. Might be my last order from them! What's everyone else's experiences been with them?
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They shipped what you selected and paid for. You could have selected a faster service for more money. Over a certain weight/size they can no longer ship through USPS first class.
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The vendor has no control over the package after it leaves their facility.
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UPS and FedEx are incredibly slow for ground services. This is something you should have considered when you selected FedEx ground for your shipping option.
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Stop being so entitled and realize they did everything you paid them to do.
I asked what everyone's experiences had been with LB not get my butt chewed! Wow...
Mine experience with LB was excellent. USPS/UPS/FEDeX can be insufferable at times though.
A package of mine through another vendor travelled from CA to my tiny town 3x in 3 weeks. Their site does not allow PO Boxes as shipping addresses. Judging from the site, I assumed they went through UPS who require a physical address.
Nope they used USPS. Thats fine. The post office is small and they know me there. When I have mix ups in addresses they just throw it in my box. Nope these 3x they returned to sender. Now I have to pay shipping again and have my package shipped an hour away from my house.
It's life. I ain't even mad. Necessity is the mother of invention.
I use Wizard Labs (I'm in PA though). Their customer service team is great. Shipping is fast (free 2 day on orders > $65). They sell most of the top brands, nicotine, vg and pg (also in premixed base form), nic salts.... I've placed 5 with them. Don't see me going anywhere else anytime soon.
I have ordered VG from Amazon.com...
If you need me to reship for you you can send it to PA and I'll send it your way. I've been around for 3 years and help people in Canada often with reships. If you need it.