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l o v e l e s s (orange milk)
submitted over 8 years ago by matthewkocandamixes it with love and makes the world taste good

What up.

I haven't posted on reddit in a long fucking time, but I've been lurking. I see y'all. Here's something new I had been working on for a while, and seemed to get pretty solid feedback, so why not share it up here as well.

As always, recipe and flavour notes below. Enjoy.

Loveless an orange milk ATF link

  • FA Blood Orange at 1.25%
  • TPA Orange Cream at 2.5%
  • CAP Juicy Orange at 0.75%
  • FLV Cream at 1.5%
  • CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream at 2%
  • FA Vienna Cream at 1%
  • FW Hazelnut at 0.75%
  • TPA Honeysuckle at 2%

Steep Time : SNV, but it's best after 4 days.

Description / Inspiration - Nashville, TN. On a secluded stretch of road, there is a beautiful little diner that pays homage to the old trucker stops where weary travelers can get a nice home-cooked meal. This diner is called Loveless Cafe, and it is one of the greatest places on Earth. With homemade biscuits made fresh every day, delicious coffee, and some of the greatest breakfast I've ever had, this diner is the greatest example of southern hospitality I've found during my trips to Tennessee. While I am not a fan of dairy milk, Loveless creates a variety of different flavoured milks that are all absolutely delicious. Obviously as mixers, we constantly see those strawberry milk, banana milk, and blueberry milk recipes almost every other day on ATF. However, Loveless stands out with something a little different, an orange milk. Of course, orange cream recipes are nothing new, but they tend to focus more on the orange note, or creating something like an Orange Dream ice cream bar. This recipe is a straight up dairy milk with orange accents, and it's one of my favourite recipes I've come up with, and the product of a few weeks of meddling.

Flavour Notes

FA Blood Orange/TPA Orange Cream/CAP Juicy Orange - TPA Orange Cream is a great concentrate, but one that is easy to fuck up. With too little, we won't taste much of anything, and with too much, we're stuck with some really bitter and unpleasant off notes of orange rind and soured milk. At 2.5%, we are getting close to this concentrate's ceiling, but it works beautifully. Here we get a nice base to build the orange milk off of. Slightly sweet orange flavour, heavy cream notes, and just a touch of sugar. Using FA Blood Orange at 1.25%, we get a nice punch in the mouth of tart oranges. This helps push the fruit notes through the remaining cream concentrates, and leaves us with something that hits those orange notes on the inhale, but fades away to give room for the sweet creams on the exhale. Finally, CAP Juicy Orange is one of my favourites, for it tastes EXACTLY like orange juice. It's a tough flavour on it's own, for it has a slight waxiness on the mouthfeel. But with all of the other oranges in here, it just gives us a little extra wetness to the fruit notes.

FLV Cream/FA Vienna Cream/FW Hazelnut - these three concentrates bind together to help us get a pretty accurate dairy milk base. The FLV Cream is one of the best cream concentrates on the market. Neutral, inoffensive, and full of mouthfeel. We get subtle notes of dairy maltiness in FLV Cream, but we're mainly using it here to create a nice, thick, unsweetened milk. The use of FA Vienna Cream brings some added sweetness to the mix, while suggesting the malt note we need to say this is a dairy milk recipe. Finally, the use of FW Hazelnut is in here to push that accurate nuttiness into the milk profile. Take a sip of plain dairy milk, and then take a whiff of FW Hazelnut, and try to tell me you don't need this concentrate in a milk recipe. I love this combination of flavours, and I think it creates something absolutely perfect for any recipe calling for dairy milk.

CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream - while this isn't an ice cream recipe, I don't find CAP VBIC to be an ice cream concentrate. For this recipe, the inherent vanilla notes found in this concentrate play better than using something like INW Shisha Vanilla, or really anything that is specifically JUST vanilla. With those concentrates, we get too much vanilla infused into the recipe, and it begins to take over the subtle orange notes. Instead, using CAP VBIC adds some more mouthfeel to the mix, while giving us just a touch of vanilla extract that complement the oranges so well.

TPA Honeysuckle - this was a bit of a stretch, for the original orange milk from Loveless does not have any floral notes or anything like that. But, TPA Honeysuckle is something special, and while I can't entirely pinpoint WHAT the flavour itself is, I notice how it helps keep the creams separated from the oranges, and it helps us achieve that goal to have a citrus fruit inhale, and a heavy sweet milk exhale. Honeysuckle seems to help this separation remain even after a steep.

Steep - delicious as a shake and vape, you know me, that's how I like my recipes. After about 4 days, everything gets to the best it'll be. The oranges meld together to create a bright, juicy, and slightly rind-y orange profile. The creams reach their peak and have a bold flavour, rich vanilla note, and delicious sugary sweetness. Overall, 4 days is where this recipe hits it's stride, but again, you can get in on it straight away.

So there it is, currently my ADV, and something I know I'll be returning back to for a while. If you've been to Loveless Cafe, you understand why it feels like Heaven, and I truly hope this recipe does them justice.

Cheers.

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by HashSlingingSlashurover 8 years ago

Saw this as soon as you posted on ATF. Next order I'll be grabbing two oranges I'm missing. Looks damn good, thanks for sharing

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

> Honeysuckle seems to help this separation remain even after a steep.

It seems like FLV Cream should be counteracting this (it works Longing) but every mix is different and what works in one might not work for another.

But I can confirm that Honeysuckle does this. Flavors that generally help blend other flavors together -- TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Whipped Cream, CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream, FLV Cream -- are well known, but I can't think of one besides TFA Honeysuckle that reliably aids in separation when separation is desired. Do you know of any?

Thanks for the recipe! Have you long have you tried steeping it before it's all gone? It starts coming together at 4 days but I'm wondering if it would be even better steeped to 14 days, as per my custom when TFA Orange Cream is involved. Or would that be enough time to muck up that delightful-sounding separation?

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by matthewkocandaover 8 years agomixes it with love and makes the world taste good

I thought the FLV Cream would merge everything together, and granted, I haven't been able to keep a bottle around long enough for longer than about a week to know what happens during a longer steep. I've remedied this by mixing up another 30ml to just sit in the cabinet for two weeks to see what happens.

After Longing, I decided that Honeysuckle is one of my favourite concentrates for it's ability to keep shit separated. I'm thinking that some assistance to the separation process comes from Hazelnut as well, for that concentrate has always helped keep my fruits and creams from blending together over time.

If you mix this one up, I hope you dig it. Longing was definitely an inspiration :*

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Favorited on ATF so I won't forget to give it a try. But that particular to-do list is now five pages long, so I don't know when that will happen.

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by KHcactusover 8 years ago

Well thanks, this was exactly what I was thinking I might want to try soon!

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by SophisticatedHackover 8 years ago

Great description of the process and moves made here. I thought I was crazy being hard pressed to find things Honeysuckle can't give some assistance to originally thinking it was going to be this niche flavor that would just be around for when I'm feeling especially 'weird'. I am starting to suspect Flavorah cream might be overtaking Fresh Cream...it is showing up more and more. Nice work and thank you for the insights. I hope to someday have all the concentrates you used to make this....

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by Zermachtover 8 years ago

Always happy to see more Honeysuckle, I always get weird looks when I say it to people. Is FA fresh cream a decent sub for FLV Cream? It's the only Concentrate I'm missing here.

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by PacificBlisterover 8 years ago

Haven't heard of honeysuckle. I'll have to check that one out!

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