Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 15 wrap 26g 3mm Nifethal 70 coils @.15 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.
Testing: FLV Milk @ 1% and 1 drop per 10 ml (about .25%), 60/40 VG/PG, Steeped 9 days.
Flavor Description: Heavier than straight milk, more like a flat cream flavor with some buttery and malty notes. Under .5%, good hit of dairy flavor without tasting buytric or rancid, and stands up to higher heat pretty well. Dense texture, but not fluffy like a whipped cream. At 1% that dairy gets a bit heavy and the maltiness gets a bit nutty, and the entire thing tastes like it's right on the verge or souring. I'd call it closer to a clotted cream up higher. Does a good job of tasting dense and rich with no DAAP, according to the [Flavorah GCMS](http://www.flavorah.com/wp-content/uploads/safety/flavorah_milk_gcms.pdf]. I'd use this an accent to add some richness and dairy realism to thinner creams like FA Fresh Cream at .1%-.4%.
Inhale is buttery, with a weird touch of sharpness in the top notes. Dense, but flat, with a lightly malty/nutty dairy note. A little bit sweet, but not like a full on sweetened whipped cream. Exhale is fairly flat, with that buttery cream up front, and some malty notes that get nutty as you increase the percentage. Exhale is just as dense as the inhale, and it seems to really coat your palate. Lingers on quite a bit after vaping it.
Off-flavors: I get a touch of a black licorice / anise to this, but it's pretty subtle under 1%.
Throat Hit: Light, but it comes and goes. Kind of lodges in your throat a bit, if that makes any sense with vapor at all. It's not really harsh, but it seems to kind of build up and get a bit dry.
Uses & Pairings: This should have some interesting applications. The easiest is to add some realism to wetter, thinner cream flavors. It should work a lot like FW Hazelnut to add some malt back into a cereal recipe, with some added richness.
I think the fact this gets sour but not rancid may also work in something like a cheesecake recipe, especially when you're trying to replicate something slightly savory like a sour cream cheesecake.
Notes: This is on the strong side of things. I made a dilution of this for S&V concentration testing. At .1%, I get some milder malty and buttery notes, without a ton of heavier base. At .2%, you've got a good deal of buttery dense body, and that maltiness is getting more solid. At .3%, this is closer to a heavy cream flavor, with that maltiness getting a bit sour. Most real dairy has a touch of that sour note, and here it isn't unpleasant so much as realistic. .4% is pretty intense for me. Thick, buttery, and just a bit nutty and sour. .5% may actually taste a little too realistic for me, and I'm getting a bit of a anise type of spice here. 1% is dense, buttery, and nutty. It tastes like it right on the edge of souring. Just for laughs, I tried this at 2% and it wasn't working for me that high. It's nutty, sour, and a bit too rich. I'd use this an accent at .1-.4%.
Second Opinions:
Not a whole lot
ELR page is pretty sparse. Two notes, one saying mix it low at .5-1%, and the other 3%
That's the wrong Flavorah product page text. At least, I hope it is. Sometimes I worry about that Flavorah blurb guy and if this is really what he wrote for FLV Milk, it might be time for an intervention.
When you try my Sopapilla Cheesecake work in progress juice for /r/mixersclub this month, please let me know if you think FLV Milk might be the missing ingredient. It sounds like it might be.
Me screw something up? That's unpossible. I'd say good catch, but I'm not sure how that one even slipped by. Thanks man. I'll keep it in mind when trying that sopapilla cheesecake.
LOL I'm glad it was your bad and they didn't actually have the Peach Gummy blurb on the Milk page. Could only have interpreted that as a cry for help by a blurb uploader in the throws of psychosis or chained up in the FLV basement, or both.
Did you try it >3%? I just ask because I remember you guys talking about that weird flavors that taste good < .5% and > 3% on mix life.
So I just tried this at about 3, 4, and 5%. It's a bit much, that maltiness note crossed well into nutty and then kept going onto sour. It's a bit rough. There's a chance it's salvageable with a relatively huge steep, but I'm not thinking this comes back together and works again at higher percentages.
Just watched Mix Life. I'm sorry you destroyed your palate.
It was just for a couple hours. It was honestly worth a shot though. I think the flavorah frankenstein thing for me only really works with their fruits, but I was curious about it as well. It was definitely interesting, this stuff tends to just lodge in your throat and I was tasting it for a solid 15 minutes after trying it at 5%.
I wanted to add some notes to this but I can't taste this flavor very well at all. I've tried anywhere from .25%-3% and it tastes like nothing to me. I might have just had a off day both times but it seems this flavor is useless to me for now.
Good notes, thanks!
I'm having enough trouble finding a place for this 120mL of TFA Malted Milk and 10mL of TFA Dairy Milk to buy anything else with the word "milk" in it lol. Great review as always, though.
You're in the 120ml of malted milk club too? I was really overenthusiastic because it sounded like such a good idea at the time... I'll go ahead and say that was probably my dumbest purchase thus far. That and that fucking 120 of TPA Mango. I've been on the verge of just tossing both of them at least a half dozen times.