It's arrived, as of today the new TPD laws come into play. If you havnt already stocked up on nic then it may be too late! I noticed this morning darkstar are still pushing it out on a litre or more to get rid of stock. not sure if they can actually do this or not but worth a try for anyone on a last minute dash!
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Curiosity got the better of me and I added a fake business name and registered number to my account on darkstar. It accepted it and is allowing me to buy 1 litre of 7.2 nic at £32.99.
Same in Germany. Anybody profit from the 10ml with max 20mg/ml limitation apart from the shops selling eliquid? DIY for new vapers won't be the cheaper option anymore. Sad. Best government(s) money can buy.
I've just done some quick calculations and to make 30ml 70/30 vg/pg at 3mg nic you would need 4.5ml of 20mg/ml 10ml nic shot. so slightly under half of one of those bottle. here in the uk there is a site selling them for £1 per bottle so it will cost 45p for the nic. not great but still cheaper than buying premium store juice
You're correct, it's still cheaper. I was slightly exaggerating in the spirit of doomsday. I paid 34£ (40€) for 1000ml of 48mg/ml. That amount of nicotine will be (with 1£ per 10ml of 20mg/ml) around 240£ in the future (or my math is completely of).
of course, it will still cost more to produce your liquid than it has up until now, but what can we do? from what I can see we have 2 options, either stop making juice and buy from retailers or just keep doing what we're doing and stump up a bit more cash for it
Still in stock although prices have been hiked up
http://everythingliquid.co.uk/shop/pg-based-liquid-nicotine-72mg/
£44 a litre ain't bad !
Nicotine page contains a disclaimer:- >All nicotine offered on this website, in excess of 20mg/ml is solely >for the use in manufacturing products that either comply with or are >exempt from the scope of The Tobacco and Related Product >Regulations 2016.
So not sure if the would still actually ship 7.2 Nic to normal customers.
I posted on another thread that you can still get 7.2 nic after tpd due to chemicals i.e. nic have there own regulations. This should mean company's outside registered vaping shops can still sell it as long as it's not affiliated with vaping in anyway. i will check darrent chemicals next week and see if they are still selling it
Watching this 8)
same
Damn need to be a business to buy at darrent this week, However everything liquid is good to go as mentioned below just tick the box. And yes there is a price increase but not to this extreme...check this out here.... http://www.nicotineuk.co.uk/1_Ltrl_-_72mgml_Nicotine_in_VG/p4340530_16722741.aspx Even at that extreme price we are used to it's still way cheaper than 20mg nic shots if you do the math
What sort of quantities did people stockpile? I got 2.5 liters sitting in the freezer so should be good for a while.
I've got two in the freezer as well. My first litre lasted nearly 3 years, so i should be good for the next five or six.
3 Litres of 100mg, pure VG, in my freezer :)
Im currently using the 1 year old nicotine stored in the freezer and neither the color nor flavour have changed, for now everything is fine. One interesting fact about VG is that it doesnt increase its volume while frozen, so is safe to store it in smaller bottles leaving no gap for air
Knowledge bomb: the vast majority of liquids actually contract when they freeze. Water is one of the very few exceptions. This is due to hydrogen bond interactions in the water that cause them to form an open, crystalline arrangement when they freeze. Most molecules do not have this interaction to this extent.
Source: dropped out of college but took a couple chemistry classes before I did.
Maybe i'm wrong, but i did some math concerning nicotine only.
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30ml cost 20 euros (minimum)
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To do 30ml at 6mg with 72% nic, you'll have to use 2.5ml
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Pre-TPD that didn't cost anything, let's say that the average DIY bottle cost MAX 1.50 euro
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Post TPD to do 30ml (6mg) with 20mg (10ml bottle) you'll need 9ml.
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A nicotine shot of 20mg cost 3.5 euros. You'll use 9 of that; that means you spend ATLEAST 3 euros just for nicotine, lets add flavors and VG and say MAX it cost 5 euros.
You still save some money; it sure costs way more but hell, with 10 euros you can get other flavors! For me it will be a bargain because:
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I'll do myself the liquid that i want, unfortunately here in Italy not many B&M have American juices, and if they have it, it costs way more, like 8 euros for 10ml lol
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10 euros saved come always handy
But really, fuck this law. I'm more sorry for shops than for me; one thing that bugs me is that cross border sale is banned in Italy, like come on, ffs.
> A nicotine shot of 20mg cost 3.5 euros
I think it is more like 1.8 Euros.
Went nic-free months ago, was the simplest option really.
I mixed 2 bottles with 0mg lately (I'm at 1mg at the moment). It feels like something is missing. Will try with .75mg and see if i can fade it out slowly. Then I'm gonna sell my nicotine stash on the black market and get filthy rich (<= joking).
I only managed to grab 500ml as it's right before payday so funds are scarce right now. But still, 500ml of 7.2 nic should last me a while, I vape at 3mg so I can't imagine I'll run low just yet
You can most likely still get it shipped from pink mule in spain, they still deliver 100mg nicotine all over europe.
>100mg nicotine
risky though no? anything over 72mg previously required a poisons licence didn't it? and now the limit is 20mg...
No that was only in the UK i believe, it used to be 100mg/ml in Denmark and other EU countries(Im a Dane, hence the Denmark reference). About a year ago, EU except UK got hit with the no more than 10ml juice bottles if they had nicotine and no more than 20mg/ml, so most UK retailers stopped shipping to Denmark, which was annoying, since you had good nicotine for really good prices, but pink-mule kept going, and is still going strong with their 100 mg/ml, i've ordered multiple times over the last year and never had any issues.
IMPORTANT NEWS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
curiosity got the better of me and I added a fake business name and number to my darkstar vapour account to see what would happen.........turns out it only went and accepted it and I can now order 7.2 nic by the litre!