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- Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
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No question, just wanted to say THANK YOU for the well organized and laid out subreddit. After reading the sidebar and browsing threads for a bit, I went ahead and ordered the supplies needed to start my own DIY setup. Currently vaping some juice I mixed myself and it feels fantastic (and tastes delicious to boot)!
Just thanks to everyone in this sub and the mods for making so much information available so easily. I look forward to lurking, and eventually participating in conversations when I'm deeper into this rabbit hole. :)
(mods feel free to delete, figured this was better than starting a new topic)
Welcome to our corner of reddit! Glad all the information could help you take this journey.
i'm searching for some fruit profile recipe where apple flavour will be dominant and cinnamon will be on background. searched in ATF "BEGINNER BLENDING MIXXED ROUND 1". there are mostly bakery recipes. google give some search results but because of lack of comments/ratings it's hard to say how good these recipes are.
thanks
Awesome Apple Pie by /u/botboy141 is easily my favorite apple/cinnamon recipe. I like 3 drops per 30ml (.25%), but 2 drops of FLV Rich Cinnamon sounds like what you are wanting.
That search term you used is a contest if I'm not mistaken. So that won't give you what you want.
i'm not used "BEGINNER BLENDING MIXXED ROUND 1" as a search term. i went through all of pages of this contest because few of key ingredients of this contest were apple and cinnamon. i trying to avoid to get repeating recommendation to search there
You can search by flavor. Searching is always important. Here, ATF, Google. I understand wanting to find a recipe that works for you but you have access to the same results everyone else does. Apples and Cinnamon are usually paired together in baked dishes. That's why you are coming across bakery profile recipes. Just pair FA Fuji with either FLV Rich Cinnamon or FA Cinnamon Ceylon
What is a.... ahem..... strap-on? (DIY Juice-wise, not...... the other one.)
What nic is generally regarded as good?
I'm looking to get more nic as I ran out, but I know nude nicotine had issues last year so I ordered from liquid barn. While the nic was okay because I don't mix as much as I used to it took a while to go through it and it oxidized a bit.
What companies do you recommend getting 100mg eliquid from?
I only buy nudenic. I just switched to their smooth salts and am loving it. I buy 100 mg solution in vg only as I find max vg is the least harsh. I'm really a flavor chaser more than anything.
I tried some from flavor barn and it was fine but frankly I think nudenic prices are very good. They provide test results with every delivery. I also buy my pg and vg from them. Free shipping over $100.
Does anyone know if flavor bases degrade over time?
Do you mean the concentrates? If so then yes they do but very slowly.
I make my own flavor bases but same thing. I started diy in December and graduated up to the pro methods pretty fast. Over the winter I made about 50 of them so I could make juice fast and enjoy the summer.
A sincere THANK YOU to both /u/skiddlzninja and /u/ID10-T -
Last week I was really struggling to get started and got some advice regarding additives and such. All of my juices just plain sucked and were tasting harsh as fuck like nothing I'd ever picked up at a store, even when those hadn't steeped they were vapeable. I took the advice and am now on the right track.
I stopped using sweetener and continued-on to try to isolate what ingredient was causing my problem of just plain funk taste but good smell in the bottle. I increased PG for my bases to help carry flavor and things were still pretty harsh harsh. Moved on to begin isolating ingredients by making a nude PG30/VG70 base, vaped it a bit - no problem there, was surprisingly sweet on its own. Then tried with a standard recipe using the base and got both great flavor and sweetness/body without having to add anything additive-wise. The problem? You guessed it - the nicotine I had.
I'd started with 24mg/ml 100%VG nicotine concentrate which I was diluting to 16mg/ml from MFS. Turns out it must have been a bad batch and more oxidized than I suspected because that was causing all of this terrible throat/tongue burn and rough harshness. After exhaustive research I found a different vendor with better ratings (Carolina Xtracts) at 100mg/ml in 100%PG and boy is the difference night and day. I had no idea the nicotine was the cause of all this. Even though my nicotine seems high I'm replacing cigarettes; so, for now it has to be. Part of doing DIY is my wanting to slowly wean-off and to an extent make my own nifty flavors!
Anyway, thanks again to those guys because, wow, what a difference. For others - careful where you get your nic from. It matters A LOT for flavor.
Here's the absolutely delectable flavors I've either stolen or just plopped together:
Dragon Drip (stolen/clone) -
- 7% TPA Dragonfruit
- 7% TPA Juicy Peach
Space Jam (stolen/clone) -
- 5% TPA Apple
- 4.5% TPA Juicy Peach
- 4.5% TPA Ripe Strawberry
Very Bloody and Drunk Pineapples (mine) -
- 8% FW Blood Orange
- 4% TFA Pineapple
- 2% TPA Kentucky Bourbon
Tobacco heads!
What specific tobacco flavor profile comprises the tobacco in most RY4 concentrates and most specifically TPA RY4 Double?
I've done some research and mixed a few other folks recipes, but I'm still kind of stuck. Most of the tobaccos I have are richer "pipe" style tobaccos. I have most of the INW "for pipe" line and Gold Ducat. These tobaccos all seem too rich for pairing with caramels and vanilla. At least to me they do. I like RY4 Double but I'd like to build something better.
What tobacco concentrates should I get if I'm looking to build a straight up RY4 from the ground up?
Are there some ultimate RY4 recipes I should look at that I may have missed?
Thanks for your help!
RY4 Double had no real tobacco note. Most likely most people interpret the Cyclotene as tobacco. Here's my "from the ground up" RY4 recipe. Haven't made it since this first test. The Flue Cured worked well because it's pretty sweet. Probably the best one I've had for RY4 style mixes is ECX Turkish. Same thing as the Super Concentrates Turkish that you'll find on Bull City and other sites that carry SC. It's nice and bold and kind of creamy. Works well with the vanilla and caramel stuff.
Here's one I did with Dark for Pipe. It was pretty good too. I was just playing around with the Maple Syrup, Vanillin, Brown Sugar, and Tobacco thing. I settled on the Turkish. My post here goes in to some more detail on it.
hey thanks, I figured Turkish tb would be a stand in it, I have western Turkish ultimate i'll try at a low percentage, the RY concentrates have a variation of tobacco to sweetness, but I see RY4 the most, so still but not still. I get its not a strong tobacco, but regardless, its still a tobacco. Like Black Honey. thanks for the posts though, looks great!
I don't think you can get the real RY4 that was created by Dekang way back when. And originally there weren't any RY0, RY1, and so on. The people that made the original never released them because they were their failed attempts. It was their fourth iteration that they settled on, hence the name. The only RY4 concentrate that I have is TFA RY4 Double, and I don't really use it. Typically, I would agree that what is commonly called an RY4 these days would be tobacco, caramel, and vanilla. It's kind of evolved from being an actual flavor of juice to more of a broad term for anything that hits those three notes.
Anywho, it doesn't really matter if anyone considers something a tobacco flavor or not. Just mix and vape what you like.
Hi guys, I've recently managed to gather all the necessary ingredients for the dinner lady remix and I really enjoy it.
For my personal taste, I'd like the sweet full lemon taste to really come through more, overpowering the doughy part.
I have fa lime Tahiti cold pressed, Tfa key lime, fa lemon Sicily, cap Italian lemon Sicily and cap Juicy lemon.
What would you add to get this really strong lemon lime flavor?
Start with 1% FA Lemon Sicily and see where that lands you. I have a [similar recipe] (http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1115741/Lemon%20Frosted%20Almond%20Shortbread%20v6) you may want to look at for ideas if you like this profile. There are a ton of lemon cookie/bakery recipes out there you should enjoy.
I guess I haven't found that one yet, because I am missing inw lemon. It sounds delicious, do you reckon I could sub any of my balls for the inw?
The dinner lady remix already calls for 3% Lemon Sicily. If you bump it up it gets a weird after taste that isn't great. (I have literally made over 2000ml of this juice in the past month). I've tried bumping up the juicy lemon to 1.5% with good results. You can also scale back the butter and the graham cracker a tiny bit. The recipe is already almost 15% flavoring, so it can stand a little less. I mix the flavoring separately as a base and only use 11%, it comes out great on a dripper. The lemon seems to shine a little brighter that way.
Also: You might want to try Dude, Where's my lemons? https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/16324#dude_wheres_my_lemons_by_whoisjayson
It's a great lemon cream recipe with (I feel) a stronger lemon taste. Imo dinner lady remix tastes almost spot on like a lemon meringue pie, and while it's great it's not as refreshing as the DWML
I have recently been into mixing my own juices. I came across a Strawberry Kiwi recipe that is 8% TFA Strawberry and 4% TFA Kiwi Double and 1% Dragon Fruit to enhance the flavor. The vape was perfect, but when i tried to substitute the TFA Strawberry for TFA Strawberry Ripe, i get the hardest throat hit. I would like to get some help!
Give it some age. New mixer here, but, first couple recipes I tried had strawberry ripe and they were harsh AF. Let em steep 3-4 days and it really changed for me, a lot smoother.
Anyone get their Vapechemy order yet from the giveaway?
Been almost two and a half weeks and I haven't gotten a shipping confirmation yet.
Nope, but it's shipping from Eastern Europe so I wasn't expecting speedy delivery.
Ah, I see. It's free so you can't really complain.
Funny you replied because I got a 120ml bottle of your 'If you like pina coladas.
How many of you use no more than 3 flavors in a recipe? Im skeptical as to mixing some of these recipes with 6 plus flavors . Wondering how many of you have tried more complex recipes but find two or three flavors is plenty?
I've kind of accidentally ended with a couple recipes that involved like 9 flavors, and they turned out pretty good. But I'd never do it on purpose, and I probably would never mix someone else's that has that many. I like them in the 3-5 range. When you consider how many flavor molecules are in the flavorings, when you get up in the 9 ingredient range you could end up with a shit ton of molecules all fighting for your tongue's attention.
Simple is best. Lately when I look for new recipes, I'm seeing 6+ (sometimes 10, wth) flavors. I nope out of them quick. I'm not saying they aren't some great ones using that many (Rhodonite comes to mind), but ~~most~~ a lot of them are just a muddled mess.
If you care to search the past few monthly recipe threads, I have posted at least one each month that have 3 flavors. Good feedback too. Sometimes I use up to 6, (4 on average) with a couple being additives used in a small but meaningful way. /u/ID10-T has quite a few great recipes if you want to search at alltheflavors.com.
So yes to your question. Keep it simple!
Some of the best recipes I've tried have had just three ingredients. /u/coop34's Kiwi Bourbon immediately comes to mind. It's incredible. I'm vaping /u/mlnikon's In A Godda Da Vida right now and it's an absolutely beautiful three-ingredient recipe. But other two- and three-ingredient recipes taste incomplete. Four seems to be a pretty good number (very often in the form of two main flavors, one supporting, one accent or additive) and it's where I tend to stop and ask myself, Do I really need more flavors, or just different flavors or a better balance of the flavors I've already got?
I don't know why you're immediately skeptical about recipes with 6 or more flavors, though. Coop's right, quite a few of them are just a big fat mess. But others are magnificent. You'll still get surprises, both good and bad, but the more you try the more you'll be able to tell at a glance whether something might be worthing buying and/or pulling out more than 6 flavors for. Flavor/development notes also help for me. If someone can really make a case for why so many ingredients are necessary, and their breakdown of individual flavors lines up with my experience of the ones in it that I've tried, I'm much more likely to give it a shot.
Anyone have a recommendation for stand alone fruit flavors? Just one and done, no other flavors required?
Also, a cream/vanilla that would work as an "& cream" add on for most fruit flavors?
Thanks all
3% INW Shisha Straw
1% INW Cactus
3% FLV Wild Melon
1-2% FLV Pink Guava (straight grapefruit)
2% FA Fuji
Just to name a few, I like all these standalone. For cream I would have to say FA Fresh or FLV Cream. I'm not a big fan of vanilla, but DIYFS Holy Vanilla is a crowd favorite.
What Coop said, and also 3 to 4% FLV Mango.
FLV Cream is a good one if you don't want a vanilla cream (use at 1%) for a bit of cream. If you do like vanilla, TFA Vanilla Swirl is the most versatile. CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream is another good one.
Mixing I've been trying to create a contraption to swivel/spin my bottles of fresh juice because the magnetic mixer I've seen are really expensive ! Does anyone know any tutorials or affordable mixers?
Sorry for my English it's not the best punctuation and grammar are not my strong point still learning
Thanks for the help!
I bought a "scientific lab clamp" and put it in a cordless drill. Saw it in some intro diy juice vid on YouTube.
One of these: 214F2 Karter Scientific Extension Lab Clamp 3 Prong Single Adjust 10-90mm Jaw https://www.amazon.com/dp/B006UKI83U/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_Ps-6yb3M72049
Works pretty well.
I bought a used vortex mixer for $25 on eBay. Works great. I short my bottles by 2.5 ml which also helps. I hold the bottles side on the padishar123 instead of the bottom.
It was a bit rusty and missing a knob. I made a best offer on a $50 one saying no one else would buy it because of the looks and he bit. You can also use an ultrasonic cleaner which is next on my list. Buy an industrial looking one in the $80 range on Amazon.
i have a request that i know i should post in r/electronic cigarette but for some reason that sub intimidates me. i've only been vaping for a little less than 2 months, and i've been diying all my flavors. a good friend set me up with the rig i have now to help me quit smoking, and it was a trade deal (not anything unsavory, i don't know why this matters but whatever) so i didn't actually purchase the mod or rdtas i have right now- which are a snowwolf mini 75w TC (the nice teal color), a digiflavor mtl tank and and an avocado 24 rdta. i love all of it and have been using the hell out of it. i guess my question/request is- i'd really like to have a back up rig, something all black, i don't ever exceed 30 watts, but would like to have the option to go up to 50, and a matching all black rda- something velocity style hopefully, or at least somewhat simple to build on, because i'm still very unconfident in my coil skills. i can manage single builds fine, and usually just run a single in my avocado with the air shield on the other side. double coils aren't something i've been able to successfully build on yet.
so anyway- if you're still with me- would anyone care to recommend me either a kit or even individual mods/rdas that would look good together that seem to fit the bill? i'm asking here as well because since i diy my juices i'd rather stay with rebuildables, that seems to yield the best flavor results from what i've read and i'm glad my friend didn't even give me an option there. i'm hoping at least some of yall are on the same page. any advice on vendors/specific sites would be helpful too- i have thus far only purchased from gremlindiy and ecigexpress for flavor stuff and don't know much about actual rig vendors. oh and i forgot to mention that i'd like to keep my total cost below a hundo, which i think is possible?
thanks in advance for any advice and i apologize for putting this here knowing it should go elsewhere.
edit: i'd also like to say that yes, i have absolutely searched these things on the electronic cigarette sub and elsewhere on the net and i've browsed a few sites- i am not completely clueless and i tend to feel confident in my ability to research something well enough to make a good decision- this is all just so new to me and i feel i genuinely trust most of yalls opinions on things and i've gotten good advice from redditors before. this is why i'm asking, not because i don't know how to use the search bar. i promise i know how. please don't be mad at me.
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Howdy!
I've been hanging around /r/ecr for a bit, and while it can be intimidating(Some of the users get a little salty now and again) the Daily Questions Thread is always a great place to seek advice. We won't bite, I promise!(Only if you ask nicely..)
Anyhoo...For a decent, single battery mod that isn't going to shatter your credit card, there's a couple of options. If you would rather have an internal battery device, I can recommend the Innokin CoolFire4 TC100. It's a very nice little device, with a great hand feel. I've had one for a little over a year now, and it's been solid. It's taken a couple of drops without any issues and has some fairly accurate Temp Control(TC) for nickel(Ni200), titanium(Ti) and 316L stainless steel(SS). I've used the TC function on Ti and SS(I'm allergic to nickel) so I can say that those work well. Of course, regular old Wattage Mode works just fine too! The CoolFire 4 does support 2 amp charging, which gets the 3300 mAh battery from empty to full in just under two hours, provided you've got it plugged into a wall wart that provides 2 amps.
If you'd rather have a mod with swapable batteries, the eVic VTC Mini/VTwo is also another great little device. It provides 75 watts via single 18650 battery, and does TC for Ni200, Ti and 316LSS. Again, I've used the TC function for Ti and SS, and while I wasn't impressed with the Ti, SS seemed to work well. Power/wattage mode works solidly, and the device is fairly small, so it's easy to take out and about. The 510 connector(Where the atty screws into the device) is a little on the shallow side, so tanks or RDA's with long 510's will need a spacer/washer to keep it from wobbling. Other than that, the mod is quite well built. I've dropped mine countless times without issue, it's been across the states and back four times and out of the country twice with zero issues. I've retired mine, but if I needed a great mod for under $50 this is the one I would pick-hands down.
As for RDA's, I'm not too well versed. I use RTA's almost exclusively and the one RDA I do use for tastings isn't made anymore. I can however recommend the Nalu RDA. It's a two-post design like the Velocity-styled decks that are all the rage, but it's got some fairly beefy lead holes so that you can fit some of the bigger wire types in there should the need arise. It's also has bottom-fed airflow, which you would be used to coming from tanks. I prefer bottom-fed airflow myself, but they can leak if you angle them too sharply when taking a pull.
If you've got any other questions, please don't hesitate to ask! I'm usually on reddit a few times a day and am happy to be of help. Cheers!
thanks so much for the thorough response, i really appreciate it. the evic mini has been on my radar mainly because i appreciate it's appearance a lot. i also appreciate the tip about the spacer/washer- i ended up choosing the eleaf aster 75 because i also liked it's aesthetics and seemed to get good reviews, and a derringer style clone rda- i'm vaguely concerned about the fit between them being off and didn't know a spacer/washer would suffice there. i'll get it all sorted, and thanks for being so kind- i tend to be a little sensitive and just try not to step out of bounds when i'm new on a sub.
Quite welcome! As far as the spacers go, if I recall they're called "Mod Savers" and you can get them over at Kidney Puncher. Or, in the spirit of DIY, make some yourself using a plastic milk jug/depleted cash card/anything plastic. Simply use a paper hole punch to make the hole for the 510, then trace the outline of the atomizer onto the piece of plastic. Snip away the excess with a decent set of scissors and BOOM: spacer!
If you ever have a question regarding mods, attys, or the like just shoot me a PM. I'd be more than happy to assist you in sorting things. As far as "stepping out of bounds", I know all too well what that feels like. When I first started using reddit, I wound up with that egg-on-the-face feeling more than a couple of times. I think the biggest rule of thumb for using a subreddit that's new to you is this:
READ THE SIDEBAR
I know that one gets hammered here and on /r/ecr a bunch, but it's true. Every sub has it's own unique rules that the community has decided, so it helps to get yourself familiar with whatever guidelines they've set up. I think that's the biggest blunder most new redditors make.
I need a good tropical mix recipe. Something like fruit punch. I have a gushers recipe but don't like the strawberry alone.
Another question for this group I recently got golden pineapple and cream soda and sweetener I know you guys don't like sweetener but I mixed and steeped it for a little it's suppose to be a pineapple soda but it tast like pez candy XD with hints of pineapple so I don't if the sweetener is making that flavor or what if needed I do the recipe below !and being new to making juice I'm waiting for my scale currently but I have a syringe that measures up to one Ml if I making a 10 ml bottle would putting .6 ml of nic be correct for 6% that's what the calculator said to put in
Cream Soda (TPA). 1.21 ml Golden Pineapple (CAP)3 ml Sweetener (Sucralose) (TPA)1.02ml
That's what you're putting in a 10 ml bottle? That's like 52% flavoring.
So I don't screw up another one what should I adjust it to for a 10 ml because I don't quite understand how to use the ejuice calculator yet
If you look at the bottom where it says totals, you will see that is for making 30 ml. If you're making 15 ml, you'll want to cut everything in half. Using double the flavoring might be why it tastes so funky. I'd probably put money on it.
What tank do you use to try your flavors? I have my first DIY's steeping and haven't figured out how I want to taste test them. Any suggestions? I've found that (for me) I much prefer prebuilt atomizers. I currently use the alien mod and a baby beast tank. I have an avocado 25 bottom air flow, a limitless rdta+, and a cloud beast with the rebuildable. But my best flavor comes from baby beast prebuilt.
I'd honestly recommend getting a good RDA. It's a whole lot easier to flavor test with an RDA than it is with a tank. And, for the most part, the flavor is better on a good RDA. Doesn't have to be expensive, a Velocity clone can be had for cheap, or pretty much any clone
When you say velocity clone, is that the same as velocity style deck?or do you mean a knockoff? People keep using that word, I do not think it means what I think it means
Well, the Velocity is an RDA that used the 2 post deck, was kinda revolutionary when it came out, much easier to build on. You can find quite a few clones (or knockoffs) of that particular atty. It was my first RDA and I loved it. The Tsunami uses the same velocity type deck, but has bottom airflow. I still use it on my tube mechs
I always test my mixes with an rda. Either my Kennedy or Hadaly clone.
If I'm mixing for subtank users I'll up the flavor percentage a little. If it's for MTL tanks I'll up the flavor percentage even more.
By how much do you increase for subtank and MTL users?
That's what I'm concerned about when I sell my juices as I only use my Odis O-atty and Hadaly to vape my juices. I had a feedback recently where my strawberry cream juice was tasteless, and he was using the Tobeco Super Tank mini.
I use a bridgeless atomizer for $4. It's not as good as a real coil or rba but you can test flavors back to back quickly.
Does anyone here know what VapeWild's "Just cookies, dude" flavor actually is?
I've heard they just resell TFA, and I've heard the same but with FW.
I love the flavoring, it is brown in the bottle, and has chocolate chip cookies on the label (not that it matters, they could put any pic they want).
Just wondering if someone can point me in the right direction, so I can pay less mark-up.
Maybe FW Sugar cookie? It's a pretty dark flavor
Well, I was just looking at that on Bull City anyway, so I guess I'll order a small bottle, unless someone steers me towards something else. Thanks!
Hi, I ordered a bunch of these flavors http://www.ebay.com/itm/E-DIY-Juice-flavors-Food-Grade-Concentrate-Over-110-Kind-of-Flavoring/222336516880 and there is no recommended dosage percentage info anywhere, not on the e-bay product info or on the flavor backside. So basically I have no idea how to mix it so the throat hit would not be too strong. Anyone used this flavor in their DIY?
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Not a new mixer, but I read something on ECR that made me doubt everything I knew about steeping.
On ECR people were saying that they only steeped recipes IF they contained nic. And that steeping was only to help the nic?
In the 4 years of my DIYing I make 500mls of VG + Flavour let it sit for about a month and then add nic to the smaller bottles. This is because I tend to change how much nic is in each bottle. Am I doing this completely wrong? I didn't think nic needed steeping, just the flavours?
Nic doesn't. It just needs to be shaken. Flavors do. Those people on ECR are full of shit
I've found that Nicotine takes at least a few hours of sitting for it to homogenize a little bit.
Am I mistaken or am I possibly not shaking mine enough?
I was doing it that way but got sick of figuring out how much to add. I switched to flavor bases as those can steep in a small bottle. I think adding nic does alter the flavor but after a week it seem to have settled out. Just my two cents. It's also important to leave freshly mixed bottles open for 24 hours to let the alcohols and such evaporate as those make juice taste nasty.
Does anyone in Europe know if I can get TFA Butter from a European shop? Haven't had any luck in my search for a while.
Also, is CAP Golden Butter an acceptible substitute? Because that is one flavor that I can definitely buy around here.
That was surprisingly hard to find, two Swedish vendors carry it though:
http://esmokes.se/en/-tfa-butter
http://vapenation.se/index.php?id_product=23&controller=product
Never tried it so I can't compare.
I haven't begun mixing yet and am starting my research. Where do I start? I've checked the sidebar already. Just wondering if there are any additional resources I can check out.
The sidebar has literally everything you need to get started. You just need to find recipes.
This might sound silly but what is a sidebar?
It's the "index" or "guide" that every sub has. In it you will find rules, tips, links, and anything the creators want to put in there. Any time you go to a sub and before you post anything, you read the sidebar. There are numerous was to access it, depending on what you are using.
It's all there for sure. There are some videos out there somewhere if you like visuals. And as Edible says, just find the recipes that both appeal to you and have POSITIVE feedback (there are some real turds floating around). Check the "best of" and the monthly threads. Also alltheflavors.com and sort by rating to see plenty of mixer reviews.
I just started in December. I did a TON of reading in forums about methods and equipment. I suggest using eliquid recipes and mixing by weight. All you need beyond materials is bottles, an accurate scale, and pipettes. A label maker and shaker are optional. The hard part is learning to use pipettes and what types of notes to take. Steeping is mandatory so be patient and have fun.
Does pineapple flavoring irritate your throat?
I mixed up a bottle of an ELR recipe - FA Tiger Blood which as the name implies uses all FA flavors. I subbed CAP Golden Pineapple (1%) for the FA pineapple. I find this juice tears up my throat at anything past 40 watts or so. Is this common with pineapple flavors? what been your experience or is it just me?
Pineapple flavors can be brutal. TFA's Pineapple is notorious. INW's is a kinder, gentler pineapple, at least to me. CAP's falls somewhere in the middle.
At 1% CAP's version wouldn't be a harsh throat to most people, I think, but you might be more sensitive to it than most people. Of course throat irritation could be from number of factors but if you've narrowed it down to 1% CAP Golden Pineapple, that's only a little surprising. Have you noticed any other flavors being especially harsh to you? Citrus maybe? Or peach/mango?
I'm pretty sure it's the pineapple. any commercial pineapple juice I tried was just too much (both throat hit and over the top flavor - I was hoping 1% would be ok). there's coconut, watermelon and strawberry in the juice - all flavors I use in other juices with no problem. I find the flavor is fine and not too intense but the throat is not enjoyable. Again vaping it under 40 watts makes it manageable but I generally vape my Merlin Mini at 50 - 60 watts. just not with this juice.
I'm going to try mixing some of your pineapple juices to see if it's just something about this particular juice or pineapple juices in general for me.
> there's coconut, watermelon and strawberry in the juice - all flavors I use in other juices with no problem.
Can you be a little more specific about your recipe with these flavors and Cap golden pineapple? At 1% you should be okay.
Hey guys I have 3 unopened (still in vac seal) [blue raspberry, Belgian waffle, and sweetener] and I was wondering if anyone has some extra like TFA flavorings (fruity, berries stuff but open to anything) each bottle is 15ml and would send with tracking obviously. Just let me know! Edit: flavors are from liquid barn sorry I haven't had my coffee yet.
I'm not sure what you are trying to do here. Trade your three for something else?
Yes I would just like to try some of the other companies flavors. I can have some people vouch for me that I've made trades with before. Really interested in like capella and TFA fruity flavors ice creamy stuff berries etc.
Ok this a request and a question
1.has anyone ever ordered from nuclear vapes 2.have you had their nukacola quantum 3.If so do you know a recipe or a clone because I can't find one online at least
Thank you for taking the time out your day to read this Sorry for my bad English
Try posting this in the Clone Thread. You may get quicker answers there for this type of question
is there any other chocolate consentrate beside TPA Double Chocolate Clear that has a clear color?
None that I know of. I have about 12 chocolate flavors, and only double chocolate clear is clear.
well... chocolate deutsch (flavorah) is on the "clear" side too. but it is not the chocolate I'm trying to identify in a chocolate vape im trying to clone. anyway thank you for your answers guys!
Only chocolates I have are TFA Fudge Brownie (if you'd consider that a chocolate) and TFA White Chocolate. I'm about 89.3% sure one of them was clear. I'd have to check later when I go down to lab (just a desk in my basement) unless someone else can confirm or deny one or both of those.
Im trying to make a mixed berries ejuice but im not getting a strong flavor from this..so what im doing wrong .. too much flavoring maybe ? I tried to lower some of them but still im not getting a strong flavor out of this.
here's the recepie:
Razzleberry (FW): 4% Berry Mix (TPA) : 3% Dragonfruit (TPA): 1% Fuji Apple (FA): 0.5% Grape Candy (TPA): 3.0% Raspberry (INW): 0.7% Raspberry Sweet (TPA): 2.3% Sweet Strawberry (Cap): 1.0% Sweetener (TPA): 1.5%
That's too much grape candy, try .5%. Lower the razzleberry and berry mix to 2% each, the raspberry sweet to 1.5%, the INW raspberry to .5% or lower, and drop the sweetener entirely. Maybe increase sweet strawberry to 2 or 3 percent.
I'd say you're overdoing it, there's too much going on in there. But the biggest problem is the sweetener. Fruits and berries tend to already contain Ethyl Maltol which is notorious for muting flavor, and when you put this many of them together, the EM stacks up. Add a sweetener to that which also contains EM and you're putting a damper on the whole thing.
So try skipping the sweetener, the sweet strawberry and the grape candy for starters. I don't know how the first two concentrates work together as I've never tried them, but if it's still muted, I would try leaving one of them out. At +17% you're pretty high on flavoring as it is.
Cool thanks alot any idea where i can see which flavors has Ethyl Maltol?
No problem, TFA discloses their contents, the rest are down to guesswork. Note that maltol and ethyl maltol, both commonly occurring, aren't quite the same thing.
Here's the flavors I have lying around, what do you guys think I should make? (Recipes please)
Bavarian Cream
Blueberry(Wild)
Cantaloupe
Caramel Candy
Cheesecake Graham Crust
Dragon fruit
Graham Cracker Clear
Gummy Candy
Orange mandarin
Peach(juicy)
Peanut Butter
Pear
Rainbow Drops
Red Licorice RY4 double
Strawberry
Strawberry(Ripe)
Swedish Gummy
Sweet Cream
Vanilla Swirl
Watermelon
Watermelon Candy
I am new only a few weeks and I am noticing a bitter taste to my recipes. I am impatient when it comes to steeping. I try a lot of sugar cookie recipes it is my favorite profile. I have been vaping for 3 years. I am not using Nicotine and I have used Diy or Die pretty much to help me order my flavors. I usually get my recipes from All the Flavors.com. Will lack of steeping time cause a bitter taste?
It can, especially sugar cookie tends to be a little bitter the first week, even more so if you use too much of it. Bitterness can also come from a base (PG) gone bad, you might want to try vaping it unflavored just to rule that out.
I'm impatient too so I avoid things that require a steep. Fruits and berries are very forgiving.
Thanks for the advice, it explains a lot and in the Sugar Cookie I mixed last night, I did a recipe, didn't think it was strong enough so I squirted a little extra in there. Yikes and that was a big mistake, hasn't been the good since. I will try to vape my base alone see if it is bitter. Love to all..Kim
If the recipe is highly rated, don't try tweaking it until you've steeped it. A lot of work goes into getting recipes where they need to be 2,3, or even 4 weeks into steeping. Not everything will be great as a shake and vape.
Recipe help - new mixer...
I posted my first ever comment yesterday, introducing myself, so I'm gonna skip that part now.
I've only ever mixed 4 recipes by myself. The first 2 came out fairly good, ones I thought up by myself. The 3rd one is a modified version of one someone posted on this thread, actually, except I now call it Dragonchee: Dragonfruit TFA - 10% Lychee TFA - 5% Lemon II TFA - 2% (added this bit)
It worked out well enough as a S&V.
I'm having troubles with the 4th one I mixed last night. I named it Citrus Crush, and I was really after a very citrussy in your face flavour. I used the recommended Mix % as on the bottles, but it's not quite as Citrus AF as I was hoping for.
Please can someone help with suggestions? Citrus Crush 50ml Bottle PG/VG 30/70 NIC @ 3mg Orange (FA) - 1.5% Grapefruit (CAP) - 4.4% Lemon II (TFA) - 1.5% Lemonade (FW) - 5.9% Raspberry (INW) - 1.2% (The place I ordered this from said the Raspberry is used often to add a sherbet-y feel to juices, and I wanted that on the exhale.)
I gave it a good shake, warm bath, shake mid way, returned to hot bath till cooled down, shake and then placed it uncapped in the cupboard overnight. It's not unvapable, but really not the Citrus kick I was hoping for...
Don't breathe mixes unless you need to get rid of alcohol in certain flavors. And skip the hot bath
How do I know if they contain alcohol or not? And thanks. I've just capped them both.
Why not the hot bath? I tried looking up tips & tricks before I started mixing, and some suggested the hot bath to help the liquids blend? That's why I did them?
Shaking and keeping them away from sunlight in a cool place is the best option. Heating can destroy the flavor volatiles you use, the nicotine, and lessen the longevity of the juice. As for the alcohol, you would know if it does. You can refer to the data sheets for the flavors or do research on them if you are not sure. But leaving the cap off also lets those flavor molecules escape.
Just don't breathe them. It takes like 3 days to get the alcohol out of a mix when it's capped, and breathing just makes juice taste stale.
As for your recipe, that's a lot of grapefruit, a lot of lemonade, and a lot of raspberry. Try 2% grapefruit, 3% lemonade, and .25-.4% raspberry.
So a couple of weeks onwards, and my new thoughts on these two: Citrus Crush - the first week+ sometimes it would come through with a harsh throat hit, but then I get used to it. Today though, I'm actually really enjoying it. It seems to have smoothed out, and I'm also getting like a sherbet-y wet mouth feel.
Dragonchee - yeah, not sure I should go so heavy on the Dragonfruit next time. It's not terrible, but I don't know if I like the flavour so strong. Next time I'll probably stick to using it as more of a -bringing-flavours-together- mix, instead of so much on its own.
I still would like a stronger lychee idea/recipe though.
I've ordered quite a few bottles of flavours today. Mostly along the Top 20 flavours to start with. Excited to mix some well respected recipes soon.
I have a question about using Acetyl Pyrazine. I don't really understand this flavor. I've searched it in this sub and read some of the posts but I still don't get it. I see it's added to desserts and nut juices a lot. does it add a nut (like peanuts say) flavor or does it just accent bakery notes? I can tell the way some recipes are described with a "nutty" note they don't really mean "nutty" in a peanut sort of way - if that makes any sense. I don't want to add a nut note to any of my juices (nut allergy - I don't really care if a flavor is derived from actual nuts or not; nut flavors (like peanuts or hazelnuts) make me feel queasy).
It brings out crunchy, crispy, nutty notes in other flavors. It's used as an additive instead of a flavor
thanks - just so I'm clear when you say it brings out "nutty" notes in other flavors do you mean nutty like peanuts/hazelnuts or do you mean nutty like in fresh wheat bread or something like that?
I hear what you are asking, you don't even want to try it if it taste like nuts, it will make you sick...I wish I had the answer, I am new too and I have the same question. I am ordering some in my current order and hoping I understand what it is for. I think it makes the flavor of like the cooked edge around a sugar cookie and adds to the fried taste in Donuts. That is what I get from what the research I have done. Can anyone else with experience help us to understand if that is how it is or am I totally off. Love to all...Kim
This is how it was first described to me, It's a flavour that at low percentages 0.25-0.5 gives a grainy,crispy texture (great for cereals )and at higher percentages it tastes more like corn chips or popcorn. People use it more for the texture it gives to the vape rather then flavour as such. Ever seen that Doritos ejuice?, that will probably just be AP at 3%
as a tool to give grain and texture to a vape or to accent and empathize certain notes such as notes.
Thanks so much for your response - that exactly what I was trying to figure out. I saw it used in many recipes with peanut butter or hazelnut (as well as bakery recipes) and I couldn't figure out if it was supposed to be a "nut" enhancer (as in peanuts etc) or a "grainy" enhancer (as in fresh bread etc). It sounds like I should be able to use it to bump up my bakery juices a bit. Either way I'll try it at .25% and see how it goes. If it was a true "nut" kind of flavor I'd forego it altogether. I really appreciate the response.
I have A recipe I've been trying to tweak Listed below
If I don't add the sweetener it's very harsh I've tried adding VG to it or switching the ratios but no matter what it's too harsh. So when I add the sweetener which I don't want to add too much a couple drops immediately overpowers it and that's all I taste. If there's anything you guys can suggest or change would greatly be appreciated
Sorry for my bad English
That is way too much flavor for all three of those
I posted a while ago but everyone just told me to look up one but they didn't seem right but I really wanted to try it so I went with the one with a couple rating do you have suggestion?
I have just started looking into DIY juice last night and have seen some things talked about that there are some flavors that are questionable to vape due to some chemicals in them, and I realize this changes depending on the mfg. Is there a general rule of thumb for the flavors that could be dangerous?
Hey all,
Fairly new to diy. Mixed up thirty or so 30ml bottles so far, mostly custards and cheesecakes. Would really like to get away from those and get into fruits. I'm looking for three or four versatile fruit flavors that will give me the best recipes and most options. Right now I have FA peach , FA Strawberry and TFA Strawberry ripe. I generally prefer watermelon, peach and pear profiles if that helps.
INW Watermelon is my favorite out of the bunch. A lot of people like LA Watermelon (Colorless) if you like candy type flavors. You'll find most recipes using LA more than anyone else.
INW Peach leans heavily to a peach ring flavor. FA White Peach is good just has to back some other peach up in the mix. TFA Peach Juicy makes me wish I had cancer but a lot of others like it.
TFA Pear and FA Pear are all I ever see people use. I have never messed with them very much. FA Pear is always used to give TFA's version more depth. INW Pear is apparently really realistic (like most of their fruits) but I've never tried it.
If you like these type of flavors I recommend you pick up INW Cactus. In low percentages it gives that wet taste that all of these fruits have in real life. Plus it tastes fucking amazing.
How do ya make a recipe table? I searched but I'm lost.
- You can start the
- sentences with an asterisk (*)
- to get a
- dotted list
otherwise scroll down a bit here to see how to make a table. It's kinda messy though :)
Any substitute for CAP Butter Cream? I have TFA Bavarian Cream, FLV Sweet Cream, TFA Butter, LA Cream Cheese Icing, and TFA Sweet Cream. I'm thinking TFA Butter and one of these creams at a 5:1 ratio (ie TFA Butter @ .2% + LA Cream Cheese Icing @ 1%) will be a suitable replacement, but I want some opinions before I waste any concentrates.
Also, is TFA Vanilla Swirl a decent substitute for TFA Greek Yogurt? I just want the creaminess. Not interested in the tartness.
Your Butter/LA CCI idea looks good. I don't know about the Vanilla Swirl/TFA Greek idea. Depends on what you're trying to sub it into really. It will be wildly different from the original recipe for sure, if it's a question of whether it would still taste good (or perhaps even better than the original) to you, depends. A combination of TFA Sweet Cream and FLV Sweet Cream might be closer, though still a ways off.
In regards on fruit flavors, how much do simple 2-3 fruit flavor mixes compare to more complex recipes that calls for 5+ flavors??
I've heard the advise to keep things simple a lot around here and I can see how single flavor fruit mix wouldn't really pack the punch of a nice 2-3 flavor mix. But how do these compare to something like this recipe which I just saw posted, it has 7 different fruit flavors + a sweetener https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/9179#blue_frost_by_apexified
Depends a bit on what flavors you use and what you're trying to achieve. Mixing apple with pear and mint can be nice and fresh, but pretty one sided. Mix that same apple with strawberry and peach and you can get a rich flavor with lots of nuances.
A common mistake that I've made more times than I care to admit is to add too many flavors to a mix. When a recipe tries to pull in too many directions at once, flavors start to cancel each other out and it gets hard to identify the individual flavors and turns into a muddled mess. Beyond the handful of flavors that make up the main profile you should only add things that will enhance or tweak those flavors. If you can pull that off, you'll end up with a unique and complex flavor with many aspects that a simpler juice won't have, but it's a long and rocky road with lots of failed iterations.
For this reason it's best to start by finding flavors that work together and keep it simple. Then you can start to add and tweak things little by little.
That recipe went through a lot of changes but it did start at 2-3 flavors and evolve from there. I wouldn't say it's inherently better than any good 2-3 flavor mix, but the things I added beyond that were to give depth to certain flavors and add nuance. It's important to start simple and stop when it's where you want it.
I am a just-started DIYer with a mind to not attempt any sort of substitutions yet. Until I know what I am doing, I am a bit scared to try anything other than exactly copying highly rated mix recipes. I am big on strawberries and cream type flavors.
My question is this: I would like to make a sweet, almost candy-like peaches and cream type flavor as well, and I am having a hard time finding highly rated recipes for that. I am considering using an existing strawberries and cream type recipe that works for me, ordering a few different kinds of peach flavor concentrates, and substituting one fruit for another without changing the rest of the recipe. I'm concerned that it won't work. Does this kind of substitution have a high chance of success, or should I expect that to throw the entire recipe off? Alternatively, could someone be so kind as to recommend a good recipe they have tried, which meets this profile?
It should work, but I would look at similar profiles to see what they're using. Here: [Peaches and pineapple cream] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/27720#peaches_pineapple_cream_by_conradvape), [Bourbon Peach Icecream] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/38064#bourbon_peach_icecream_by_blakedennis87), [Peachy Icecream] (https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/26723#peachy_icecream_by_chefproject).
There are a ton to look at. Just put peach in the ATF recipe search bar.
hey so the tpa/tfa dx flavors besides the fact that they are safer does anyone know if they are any good
TFA DX line and CAP V2 line are loaded with Butyric Acid, which is the chemical that gives vomit its smell. Turns a lot of people off from them. They have insanely long steep times, too.
I personally don't get bothered by BA in concentrates but others are more prone to tasting them more intensely.
Can I add Carolina Xtraction 100MG/ML Supercritical Nicotine/PG Solution to my already steeped ejuice?
I just want to add a bit more throat hit to some of my <12mg nic ejuices.
Sure! Just give it a good shake after adding to be sure it is mixed well. Some mixers even let their juices steep first without nic and just add it a few days before use to avoid oxidizing the nic.
How the fuck did you get gold for this?
I mean, it's not bad advice in any way, just not something I would think gets gold.
Boutta place a new order on more labware and flavors. Im lookin to do the nana milk, god milk, pistachio ry4, few others, but im gonna start a new quest for some cereal. Frosted flakes status, no fruits innit. I think i got the milk covered, and i also assume cereal 27 would be good in it, but whats another cereal to compliment a straight sweet cereal profile?
This one by shroomy is pretty much nailed. I half the ap though. http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/410262/Frosted%20Flakes%20by%20Shroomy
27 FTW! It is the closest you'll find for frosted flakes. A small bit of Acetyl Pyrazine or TFA Cheesecake/Graham is a good compliment. I have just started playing with TFA Lucky Leprechaun, it is pretty light at 3%, need to bump it up but it seems ok from that one tester.
FLV Cinnamon Crunch, FA Cookie, CAP Sugar Cookie, FA Meringue, and FW Hazelnut are all pretty big staples in creating most cereals you can imagine. FA Almond, CAP Marshmallow, and FW Yellow Cake are sub-staples for tweaking recipes to perfection.
The VG/PG/Nic bottles I'm looking at don't seem to have twist caps for dripping. I'm wondering if I can get advice or products to make it easier for pouring. Thanks
I use these for pg and VG. Nic I use disposable transfer pipets.
I find the ketchup squeeze bottles have too big of a spout hole for anything pg. Most companies should have tips for their bigger capped bottles. https://www.myfreedomsmokes.com/unflavored-nicotine-mixing-supplies/bottles-caps.html
https://www.diy-ejuice.com/Capped-Bottles-s/1829.htm
For a couple examples