Can't find the right milky flavor

submitted over 8 years ago by antilogy

I was hoping you guys would help me out. I can't seem to find the right milky note for things. Everything I try seems to be a sweetened milk (like condensed sweetened milk), custard, vanilla, butter, marshmallow, bizarre buttercream frosting note, or whipped cream. My white whale at this point is a flavor that adds just a plain milk note. I don't know if it's a combination that I just haven't tried yet, or if it's a flavor that I haven't bought yet. I want that actual milk taste when you eat cereal or a milk note to add to a mixed berry juice, and I just can't seem to get it right.

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10 points

by Vurveover 8 years agoVurve with the Swurve

OOO Cream (milky undertones)

5 points

by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

^^^ This. I'm so new to this flavor, I haven't even single-tested it yet, broke my own rules about mixing with things I haven't tested to try someone's recipes with it because he asked me to. But as best I can tell, from tasting it in a mix with other ingredients that I am familiar with, this is straight up milk. I don't think I'll enjoy the SFT when I get around to it because I don't care for drinking plain milk.

1 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

I'm extremely intrigued. I've never heard of this company, and I love to try new companies. I kind of want to buy the onion one for an April Fools Joke...

3 points

by 0ptimusRhymeover 8 years ago

They have A TON of flavors. I've tried about 20 and haven't been impressed, except Milky Undertone. That one hits the spot for sure. I like to add 0.25 FA fresh cream to it for a thicker milk note, but for your needs you may not want to do that

1 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

Well, that's good to know that the rest are rather underwhelming. I was about to go out and buy a bunch so I could try them out as they're having a sale. I guess that's why I haven't heard a lot about this company then.

1 points

by CausticCloudCreatorover 8 years ago

This is a very good milk flavoring. This and sherbet is the only two OOO flavorings worth buying imo.

1 points

by Cbxcbover 8 years ago

What percentage would people recommend using this at?

1 points

by 0ptimusRhymeover 8 years ago

I use it between 1-2% but it's always been as a supporting flavor or in a stone mix. If I was gonna use it for a main flavor I'd try 3-4%. Personally I think it needs FA fresh cream and meringue to get a nice sweet milky flavor, but that might just be my tastes

1 points

by Cbxcbover 8 years ago

What I'm aiming for is a nice milky base I could either add chocolate, cereal or fruits to. So I'm definitely thinking fresh cream and meringue too. I'll probably add some CCW Devon cream as well.

6 points

by Fuzzy05over 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Believe it or not but i find sweet cream TPA to be the one you are looking for. The name on that flavor is wrong though its not sweet at all. I use it up to 3% for a unsweetened milk/dairy note. If you go above 3% it starts to taste cheesy. But its a very concentrated flavor. Goodluck on your search.

2 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

I never thought to add that because I usually just add it to bakery flavors as it has acetoin. Thank you!

5 points

by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

TFA Dairy/Milk at 1% or less -- too much and it tastes like sour spoiled milk.

0.5% of INW Shisha Vanilla can help round out the creamy aspect of milk.

FA Cream Fresh for the top notes, CAP Horchata if you need more warm body (don't overdo it or you'll get spice), a drop of coconut per 10ml to add body and consider a bitter nut like hazelnut at a drop per 10ml to add more of a sour bite without coming off as spoiled.

Milk is tough.

3 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

Shisha Vanilla is not one that I've tried yet. I'm gonna add that to my next order, thank you.

Yeah, milk is tough. I've tried probably 6 or 7 different flavors in different combinations and I just haven't gotten it.

2 points

by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

The hardest part of milk's flavor is that it isn't a flavor, it's a temperature.

Try room temperature milk and tell me how good it is, lol.

One thing I've tried was to use a hint of koolada -- not so much that you get any minty mouth feel, but just enough to make it feel ice cold. Try that, too.

There are some yogurts that might help with the fermented-sour notes, but I don't have any information there because I never got into yogurts yet.

3 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

Yeah I've tried TFA's Greek Yogurt with a little bit of vanilla ice cream and dairy milk mixed with fruits and it makes a smoothie flavor. It's wonderful.

3 points

by kindgroundover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Look to the sweet or fresh creams. FA Fresh Cream, CAP Sweet Cream, FLV Cream...

Everything you've mentioned is a dessert type cream or whipped cream. Keep it simple.

1 points

by psykiover 8 years agoMixologist

I second FA Cream Fresh. Straight cream, not sweet in the slightest.

2 points

by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5z8fh8/milk_flavor_without_a_sweetnesscreaminess/

2 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

Yeah I saw that, but they said they were looking for more of like a saltiness with sour, which in my head translated to a fresh churned butter (not a bakery butter, like an actual pad of butter) which is what I get from Fresh Cream and Malted Milk. That's not really what I'm looking for. I do use Fresh Cream in bakery stuff to give it that well rounded mouthfeel, and I'll most likely add it to a milk blend, but on it's own it's just not what I'm looking for no matter what percentage I've tried.

1 points

by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

FA Yogurt has a very dairy tone to it. At .25 it would probably do a good job add just a hint of unpasteurized milk.

Maybe make a Milk Salad?

2 points

by antilogyover 8 years ago

I am definitely going to try that milk salad.

1 points

by mlNikonover 8 years ago

Vienna cream is good to add to fresh cream for a milky note.

2 points

by kb_zwrlover 8 years ago

0,1% of FA's Condensed Milk may help you. No more than 0,1%! Otherwise you'll get chalky sweet milky mess.

2 points

by WorstAdviceROCover 8 years ago

Exactly. People rag on this flavor, but when used properly, it's great. I make a 10:1 dilution and use that @ 0.25%-0.75%.

2 points

by Grimacing_Menaceover 8 years ago

Going to try out Chemnic's Milk Stone. Will post once I try it out.

2 points

by ihatetoridethebusover 8 years ago

Hangsen Cream could be what you are looking for, its potent and needs a good steep, flavour somewhere inbetween whipped creme and milk.

1 points

by Vb7749over 8 years ago

Try flavorah milk and honey then thank me later

2 points

by mlNikonover 8 years ago

That is a fantastic flavor but in no way, to me, tastes like milk.

1 points

by Silba93over 8 years agoMixologist

FA Cream Fresh / Fresh Cream (same thing, some vendors display differently). It's milky at 2% and adding TFA Sweet Cream 1% will thicken it.