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milk flavor without a sweetness/creaminess?
submitted over 8 years ago by eeeug

Hi, I am looking for a milk flavour but I don't necessarily want a creaminess or sweetness. I guess I'm looking for a sort of bitterness/saltiness. I know milk is not really "bitter" or "salty", but it has it's own taste and smell that is not "sweet".

Can anyone recommend a flavoring that might have what I am looking for? That being said, is there any flavors out there that can add a salty effect? I know FW makes a salted caramel flavor. Wondering if anyone has tried this and if it is actually salty?

Thanks!

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by ohm-societyover 8 years ago

Fresh Cream (FA); it will not give you saltiness but it will give you unsweetened smooth milky goodness.

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by Reldofover 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

fresh cream doesn't bring in a cream component though, not necessarily the "milk" that he's looking for. Its missing the "sour" component of the milk that i think he is aligning with the bitterness

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by eeeugover 8 years ago

Yes! It is that "sour" milk component I am after. That's what I tried to mean by saying bitter/salty. Okay so far I have heard FA Fresh Cream, TFA Dairy Milk, and TFA Malted Milk. I have all of these so I'll give them a try.

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by Reldofover 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

Yeah thought so, unfortunately, I do not know of a concentrate that can give you that :/ maybe adding in a SMALL amount of either a sour concentrate or citric acid would give you more of what you want with the fresh cream, dairy milk and malted milk. Good Luck!

1 points
 
by VapeQueen214over 8 years ago

FA condensed milk can definitely give that sour note, it's so potent.

1 points
 
by kb_zwrlover 8 years ago

Yup, use not more than 0,1% otherwise it gets chalky. Good idea is dilluting it into 10% solution and then using 1%.

7 points
 
by o0tenaciousCover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Milk sure as shit is sweet. that's why the dairy flavors have sweetness. Adding bitter or salty notes is nowhere near a milk profile. Unless you're looking for something to mimic skim milk, which is basically watered down milk with chemicals in it, in which case you're a monster.

5 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Salty milk sounds like someone milked the bull.

2 points
 
by o0tenaciousCover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I'm pretty sure that's a house concentrate at BCV

6 points
 
by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

Milk is sweet.... the kind of sugar in it is called lactose which is a double sugar composed of galactose and glucose.

3 points
 
by engmiaover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Yeah this.. Natural milk from cows that has not been altered in some way is usually pretty sweet.

I've tasted milk straight out of a cow, and it's usually much sweeter than the one you buy from the supermarket.

Also /u/eeeug try reading some flavour reviews on of all the creams and milks used in vaping, some of them bring sweeter notes, some of them are just fluffing up the mix without adding much sweetness.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

> tasted milk straight out of a cow

I hope you washed the udder off first, at least.

2 points
 
by rklimek76over 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

But then you won't get that "fresh off the udder" taste!

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Salt doesn't translate to vaping very well. But TFA Dairy Milk may be what you are looking for

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by Alextwillzover 8 years ago

Try a little saline. It can give you a salty flavor. You could even try TFA or FA Butter, maybe CAP Golden Butter. I haven't had them, but I imagine it might give a slight salty flavor. Just look around for flavors that might be more on the bitter/savory side and see what you can come up with.

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by HashSlingingSlashurover 8 years ago

Salty is going to be tough to capture in vape form because of the nature of the ingredients we use. Flavors are mostly sweet, and VG is sweet so that's inevitable.

Your best bet is FA cream fresh like someone said, TFA milk/dairy, and possibly TFA malted milk. Butter flavors are also good but I wouldn't build a recipe around butter, it's more of a final touch type of thing for me.

2 points
 
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by Cocky1976over 8 years ago

I actually have FW salted caramel. I don't really get a salty taste though. It's more a burnt flavor, it's also got an alcohol type smell to it. I've only used it once though, i believe I used too high a percentage though as it was one of my first recipes.

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

You owe it to yourself to give that one another shot! It is, for me, a nice rich, smooth caramel. I wouldn't go over 3% though.

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by Cocky1976over 8 years ago

Yea, I'll use it again. I'm pretty sure I used it with funnel cake, which sadly didn't taste how I thought. I probably put 6% salted caramel though. I also tried it in a recipe with Nona's cake, can you say Jaeger pie lol.

1 points
 
by mlNikonover 8 years ago

Yeah, funnel cake is tricky, a lot of people don't like it and I can't stand nona's cake. I actually get pretty good results using funnel cake under 1%

1 points
 
by hoodrattover 8 years ago

Saline solution will give you a salty taste. Give it a shot if you're interested. FW-Salted Caramel is way more sweet and rich than salty.

http://www.diyvaporsupply.com/saline-solution-diy/

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