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- Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
- Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
- Want to get started but aren't sure how?
- Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.
Ask away!
So I grabbed a starter kit with 16 flavors. Not sure if I should dive right in and start mixing flavors or if I should just try each flavor as a single flavor first. What do you guys do when you add new flavors to your stash?
I'm brand new to mixing myself and noticed the general consensus is to try out each flavor on it's own so you can learn about each one. Makes a lot of sense, right? Can't run before you learn to walk, etc. So, naturally, I am going to completely ignore it. Lol no I really do get why it is advised but I lack both the patience and the discipline to do so and am gonna start mixing flavors together right away and do the single flavor thing in between. Luckily I tend to favor pretty basic fruit flavored juices so I think I'll be alright.
Where did you get your starter kit? I've been thinking about getting in to making my own juice too.
I'm in Canada so not sure if it helps you but thebrokevaper has the best starter kit up here. You get the nicotine base, 500ml each of VG and PG, a shitload of bottles, caps and drippers, nitrile gloves, a syringe and then 5x 10ml flavor bottles for $50 canadian. You can add 5 more flavors for 20 or 10 more flavors for 40.
https://thebrokevaper.ca/shop/diy-starter-kit/
I looked around and this was by far the best deal for any candians that come across this.
he's on reddit too @ u/TheBrokeVaper
so uh.... anyone ever accidentally add their flavor into a full bottle of PG instead of the bottle they just mixed the PG/VG up in?
I now have about 490ml of 0.2% blue raspberry cotton candy PG. God damnit ... lol.
Not sure what I'm going to end up doing here. Buy another bottle and dilute it further down to 0.1% or 0.05% or just let it sit around for when I'm doing a mix that contains that flavor.
Oh well, cheap lesson to learn that there's no room for a brain lapse mixing.
I've been mixing for myself and friends and I've always mixed in 30ml bottles. Could I mix into a larger bottle and then separate it into 30ml bottles instead of having to do multiple small mixes? Would I have to wait for it to steep a while before moving it into the smaller bottles?
Make a large batch (120ml+) and let it steep for 1-2 weeks minimum before putting into smaller bottles. You want the mix to homogenize before you pour it into other containers
I need to fix a bottle of Naked: Lava flow. I don't hate it, but I don't love it either.
I was thinking of adding Pina colada by capella, or maybe Shoshana strawberry by Inawera. Any thoughts appreciated!
The problem with 'fixing' a bottle of juice is that your percentages are gonna be off almost no matter what. With that said, it looks like Lava Flow is probably pretty simple. What do you think is missing? The pineapple is too sharp and doesn't taste right, the strawberry seems too earthy... What do you want to fix?
Why is flavor west to expensive? I don't need 4oz of a certain flavor lol
FW is expensive? Look at FLV instead, or INW when they're not on sale lol. I always thought FW was fairly cheap
Maybe I'm an idiot. But on a website where I do al my mixes and such people call for flavor west flavoring. When I go on FW website the smallest bottle option they give me is 4oz and it's $9. I only need like a 15ml bottle of each flavor
Can someone provide comparisons between the different marshmallows and whipped creams. Just making an order soon and trying to figure which ones to go with.
One day, when I get off my ass I intend to write an article that assembles all the public information on creams, marshmallow, etc and how to use them so the info is compiled into one convenient place for the community. This is probably the most challenging part of mixing. Until then you probably should ask more specific questions or search flavor reviews.
Are you trying to make a particular flavor profile?
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/index/flavor_reviews
Do you know how often this list is updated? It's a great resource thanks!
Hi guy's and girls I was wondering if you could help me in finding a dry coconut concentrate all the ones I've tried or read flavour reviews on are creamy I'm on the hunt for that dry shavings type of feel any help would be great 😀😚
Which ones have you tried? FA Coconut is the driest to me, whenever I use it I almost always use some of a creamy coconut along with it because I'm always looking for a coconut cream, not flakes. It does have some creaminess though. It's possible that you might need to add something dry with it to sort of morph it into flakes. But if you haven't tried it yet, definitely start with that one.
Nice one mate I've not tried fa's yet I'll put it in Friday order 😀
I am not sure what u/ID10-T is vaping, but FA Coconut is the creamiest of the coconuts, it is like vaping coconut milk (light coconut + cream) to me.
INW Coconut is the driest of the dry, it is like vaping the husk of a coconut (with a small bit of the flesh).
I live in the Okanagan area (British Columbia, Canada) and I was wondering if anyone on here had any information on DIY supplies for everything I would need like PG/VG, Nicotine, and Flavor Extract. I would love to be able to go into a local store or a store nearby, even if that means I have to drive an hour to pick up.
I have looked everywhere on the internet for a Canadian website to order from that has free shipping and cant find anything, I hate to order through the US because there is always so many hidden fees, like passing customs, exchange rate and of course the actual shipping.
Any info helps out a ton... Thank you
if you're in the Vancouver area Gremlin DIY is localish. about an hour across the border but they don't carry nic. if you're willing to stretch the drive another hour Ecigexpress has everything including nic.
man, i would kill to have a flavor vendor an hour away from me.
Diy-ejuice has everything you need. Biggest flavour selection I've seen in Canada and is in Abbotsford too which is super convenient for you shipping wise. You have to order over $100 to get free shipping but that has yet to be a problem for me.
You won't find nicotine listed anywhere on their site, but if you email them about what they have they'll send you a list of their options. With that, you add your nic choice to your order notes and they'll send you an updated invoice that includes the nic. Canadian law is weird on this topic.
I've been getting everything from them for over a year now and they've been great to deal with. Store shows they're out of a flavour? Ask them and they'll double check inventory for you. They seem like the BCF of Canada. I love them.
EDIT: I realize I'm starting to sound like a shill for this company. I assure you I have no affiliation with them other than handing them my entire vape budget for the last year+
I've ordered from Ecigexpress, seems to have a bunch of flavors. Bought the Nic and a few flavorings from them and ordered the other stuff from amazon. FYI, watch to see what the expected delivery date is from amazon as there are a few items that take over a month. I would think that you can have the items drop shipped to a spot in Blaine (you would have to do some checking around) but getting into Canada is the part I don't know.
I just received my first order of DIY products from Dash Vapes: VG, PG, nic, maybe 8-9 flavorings - mostly TFA - and some labware. They have a few B&Ms in Ontario and an online store. Shipping is not free but seemed reasonable (I live in QC, I guess shipping to BC might cost you more) and as it's sent from Canada, you don't have to worry about custom fees. I just made my first ejuice bottle ever, so maybe I'm not very qualified, but it's my second order from them and I'm very satisfied. You can get 10% off your first order with the coupon code 'newvapor'.
I just mixed my first juice with a DIY magnetic stirrer. There are bubbles in the juice. Is this ok?
If not luckily it's only 10ml worth of materials.
I don't use a magnetic stirrer, but whenever I shake my finished liquids, there are a ton of bubbles.
Do you wait for the bubbles to go away? This is unflavored juice so I don't think it needs to steep.
Hi,
I want to start making my own juice for the juul. I have basically no idea where to start. Do I only need the 50/50 nicotine salt base and flavor or is there other ingredients I will need? I have no idea what materials I need to start doing that.
Thanks!!
Do the Capella V2 flavors and TFA DX flavors tend to match the originals as far as strengths and percentages go? I'm asking so that I have a starting point for single flavor testing on those tonight.
Use ELR and ATF for an idea of where to start in regards to percentages. Example.
Had not seen the ATF statistics showing the average percentages before. That's pretty awesome.
Keep in mind those are averages in a mix. You're probably going to want to go a little higher for single-flavor testing, maybe a little lower, too, to get an idea for the range for that flavor.
If you don't wanna go full ConcreteRiver and only plan on making one bottle per flavor for single-flavor testing, the average use percentages should be good for letting you know whether testing a given CAP or TFA flavor at 5%ish is a good idea or whether it might be one of those unusually strong or unusually weak flavors.
Right not a new mixer but I've just run out of nicotine. I ordered some from Darkstar (UK) last Sunday and it's been in the post about 4 days which I didn't expect. I split my last nicotine into 10 glass bottles in the freezer, taking one out each time. So I've got the 'dregs' of each one that I was thinking of combining. But the used bottles are kept in a cupboard so bit worried about those last few drops going off.
Will I know by smell if the nic is no good?
I think the smell would be a pretty good indicator. Mild peppery smell probably won't taint anything really. I suspect, at least some of your bottles, will be pretty bad. Depending on the cupboard temp. Throat hit could be a problem more than anything.
I'd make up a small batch of something strong that wouldn't be ruined by added peppery notes just to tide you over. I'd also start with the most recently emptied nic bottles until you have enough.
On a separate note: 4 days in transit is ridiculous. I just got my Darkstar today and it was shipped yesterday.
Ok thanks for the help. Smelt them and just get the smell of nic, can't see the colour through the amber glass but will see if that looks dodgy as well.
Yeah ordered Sun and they dispatched Tues afternoon. Maybe a bit harsh but did expect quicker dispatch. Contacted them and they said nothing they can do as no track so will just have to wait.
Thanks.
Is there anyway to search by 2 or 3 flavor recipes? For example, I'm just looking for some really simple recipes for TFA RY4 Double to try to get me into tobacco flavors (although I know RY4 Double is one of the least tobacco flavors). Is there anyway to limit or sort my results on ELR or ATF to recipes with few ingredients?
I don't think so, but there are only 38 public recipes on ATF that use it. Shouldn't take that long to go through them.
Oh good call... Kind of glanced over the actual number of recipes. Thanks.
RY4 Double is such a delicious flavor... Glad I grabbed it on my last shop
need help learning reddit formatting ive asked for help before but got little help that didnt help wan to format a recipe nicely.
i hate reddit tables try this
type some text then hit enter 2x
Now type an asterisk (*) on the first space of this line, hit space and type some more.
- it should look like this
repeat for all your flavors so it looks like this
- 4% fa Fuji
- 1% fa Coconut
- 1% Fa vienna cream
https://imgur.com/a/M4pph heres what it looks like before submitting.
(Two asterisk)Recipe name(two asterisk)
enter
enter (one asterisk)(space)% XXX Flavor Name
enter
enter (one asterisk)(space)% XXX #2Flavor Name
etc. it will give you a result like this:
Recipe Name
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1% TFA Abcde
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1% FW Abcde
We usually use tables. Scroll down to #5 on this link.
Which diy flavoring company's from west coast? Wondering for best shipping times.
Also I asked this last week but I think it got buried. Does Fuji dry anyone else's mouth out a ton?
ECX, Gremlindiy, nicotineriver, and liquid barn I believe.
Edit: You asked about Fuji in the recipe thread which is why no one answered it. Those kinds of questions don't belong in a thread specifically made for recipes. Fuji isn't dry to me. Might want to let it age for a few days then try again.
Liquid barn is a great site for pg vg but i feel a lot of people choose essential depot (delivered through Amazon prime) for the price.
Gremlindiy Is a great site for concentrates but they lack a few flavors.
A lot of people choose essential depot because they don't believe that PG and VG have differences in quality; they just think USP means that it's the highest quality. I received samples from Liquid Barn, and have since neglected the 3 gallons I had already payed for, and instead order all my bases from Liquid Barn. The wasted money sitting in jugs in my closet isn't enough to make me go back to vaping gallons of murky flavor.
Does this happen to anyone else? I made some pastry juices after vaping basically nothing but fruit juices for the past year and now all of my fruit juices...well, they're just not that good to me anymore. I've had quite a few people tell me that once you've vaped a good pastry that it's hard to go back to vaping fruits.
I like to mix it up so I never get tired of one profile
I do that too, but whenever I go back, the fruity vapes that I once loved just aren't as good.
Ok, I do have a couple questions to start this week. First, I'm not really a fan of Strawberry. I don't hate by any means but it's not near the top of my favorite flavors list. But I noticed it sure pops up in a lot of recipes and from what I gather it is often used as a flavor enhancer/binder/blender as well as its own flavoring. Do all you more experienced mixers find this to be true? Is it in pretty much everyones toolbox for its versatility? If so, i find it kind of fascinating. I totally don't understand it, but i think it's pretty cool nonetheless.
Secondly, I've only made 2 mixes so far, and gave both to my sister. One was dragonfruit/peach/juicy peach and the other was berry mix/Bavarian Cream/vanilla bean ice cream. Both mixed at 3% and 60/40 VG/PG. I told her give me as much feedback as possible and to point out every little flaw that she could find. She hasn't gotten thru too much yet, but seems to really enjoy the first recipe.
As for the 2nd mix she said it was good, but thought there may be an off flavor in it. She described it as subtle yet familiar and if she had to describe it she would say "minty". I tried the other juice but didn't try this one so I can't put it into my own words. Anyway I did a little digging around and found that TFA Berry Mix contains ethyl alcohol and none of the others do. That's the only thing that I can think of at the moment, but haven't had much time to look into it before as I'm at work, on my phone and don't have the juice on hand. So, does ethyl alcohol has a unique flavor that she could be describing? Again, she said it was subtle, familiar and not really bad, but maybe out of place. Any ideas?
Could be that TFA Berry Mix isn't a good flavor. There aren't many notes on it and I have never seen anyone here use it in a recipe. You would be much better off using CAP Harvest Berry or FA Forest Fruit depending on which direction you want to head down the Berry Kingdom path
What are your favorite combinations of strawberries? After trying TFA Strawberry Ripe and FA Strawberry Red Touch separately in mixes (not bad, but not nearly good enough) I mixed them together and got great results. I tried 6% Ripe and 2% Red Touch.
Do mixers ever use three, four strawberries together in mixes?
Sometimes too many strawberry types screws things up . The one strawberry that seems easy to taste even at low percentages is Shisha strawberry .
Ripe is a tough one to taste in recipes , i like regular TFA strawberry and sweet strawberry from Capella's , Jungle flavors sweet strawberry is good also .
I have INW strawberries but have not used them in anything yet .
FW strawberry is very weak imo but it is tasty .
I wanna try mixing my juice at 70VG/20PG/10DW and I wanna make a base rather than measuring everything separately all the time. Assuming 10% PG based flavorings and adding the DW afterwards, what kind of base mix should I go for?
The amount of flavor base you should use when mixing is based on the total flavor percentage of the original recipe. Is that what you are asking?
I don't generally work with recipes. I use one-shot flavours or single flavours, mixed at 10%. That's why I'm asking about what base to make, since the juices I mix never deviate from that percentage.
10% DW is extremely high. Your ejuice is going to end up very thing, and lack a lot of flavor.
I tried 10% jungle juice and while I like the flavor, there's not enough of it and the mint is too strong for me. I'm hoping for some feedback on a potential "fixed" recipe before I mix it up, specifically the watermelon percentage and whether meringue is necessary or not:
Unfortunately the flavors in the recipe plus FA lemon Sicily are the only fruit flavors I have! Thanks for any advice!
By your "mint flavor is too strong for you" comment i assume you mean the menthol .
I agree , if the menthol was absent that recipe would be my # 1 for sure . I can even handle some menthol but in this recipe it's overpowering .
No I tried just straight jungle juice at 10% (single flavor). It's not horrible but it's too much menthol/mint for me (not actually sure what is in jungle juice if it's menthol/mint/koolada). So I want to drop the percentage in half and fortify the fruits with some other flavors. I'm hoping 5% will be the right amount of mint!
Does anyone know of companies that manufacture small packs of nicotine designed to just add to 30mls of 0mg liquid? All I can find is bulk nicotine.
Edit: http://sapphyrenicotine.com/ This is all I can find but I'm not sure on quality here.
Nude Nicotine has a free 15ml sample, just pay a couple bucks shipping.
Not quite what I'm looking for but thank you. I'm more so looking for something that is single use that I can buy a large quantity of so people that aren't experienced with mixing can add preset amounts easily.
2ML for $8.25 My word. I have never heard of that company before this. Here is an alternative idea though. You could buy 120ml of 100mg/ml from here. Quality of their nicotine is top-notch, you couldn't get better. It will cost you ~$30 shipped.
Pick up some small LDPE bottles from vendor of your choosing. Example. And a couple small syringes, 1ml and 3 ml. Dispense desired amount into small bottles. (.9ml for .3% target strength, 1.8ml for .6%, and so on).
Now you have the same package that company is selling. 120ml vs 12ml for around $50 (or less) total.
I wanted a Placid clone(ish) and forgot pear on the order, but I have Fuji. Suggest percentages please on these, just to make something tasty, doesn't even have to be like Placid. I have: TPA Strawberry, TPA Honeysuckle, FA Fuji, FA Lime Tahiti cold pressed
Best weight, free, simple, calculator?
I use the one at [ELR] (http://e-liquid-recipes.com/create). It's free and has a ton of great features.
Is there any recipe website with flavors I have on hand?
Kinda like www.supercook.com?
I f'd up my last order and got 70 ml of WF Caramel Rice Crispy treats. Any and all ideas welcome.
They are a newer flavor company so there are little if any flavor reviews for them. You'll have to mix it up and do some testing of your own. Just curious, how do you accidentally order 70 mls of something?
Put it in the what can I make with these flavors thread with the rest of your flavors. That would be a start
I'm looking for ideas in general though, not just with what I currently have, as I intend to increase my flavour collection greatly with bill S-5 currently going through the Canadian senate
Just mention that in the thread over there We need to know what flavors you already have before we can recommend any new ones anyway
So strap on was my first mix earlier. So question is, is it supposed to be a rough SnV? It seems pretty harsh, maybe I'm used to EM?
Anything shake-and-vape can be slightly harsh the first 2-3 days, wait and see. If it's still harsh after that, it could be the nicotine that's harsh or you might prefer slightly less flavoring.
Nic would be my last guess, I got CXTC, but maybe. I'll give it a bit thx. I did also go about .5 over my usual nic, but didn't think that would make much difference.
I keep getting ocasional hot spots(kind of), but only seem to get it in one of the recipes I mix. Would a magnetic stirrer or frother help with this?
It's not a really bad hot spot, its just a quick heavy throat hit really, probably every 10-20 vapes. I'm wondering if these could be result of "flavor pockets" not mixing in well. I've tried steeping it for an extra week. My next test will be doing a 0mg mix of the same recipe and see if I still get it.
Post or link the exact recipe including flavor brands and percentages, there might be a clue in there somewhere.
What is the PG/VG ratio?
70vg/30pg, 3mg nic. Nic and bases are from ecigexpress.com.
6% 50mg 50/50 pg vg base 3.5% cap blackberry 1% cap french vanilla 5% cap vbic 1% Fa custard 67% vg 16.5% pg
Hmm nothing really sticks out, except that 3.5% CAP Blackberry is kinda high, I'd try lowering that to 2%. Possibly light coil gunk that burns itself off if it gets hot enough, but that's far fetched. Are you shaking the concentrates too before use?
Do you store the mix in the fridge by any chance? That could lead to flavor separation etc, but the throat hit shouldn't be that random.
Do you shake the hell out of your nic prior to dispensing?
I'm looking for a TFA Pie Crust substitute for a Key Lime Pie recipe I'd like to try. The recipe has graham cracker clear, which I have, but it also calls for pie crust. I have INW Biscuit, FA Joy, Cap Vanilla Cupcake V1, and Cap Vanilla Custard V1. Will either of those due as a viable replacement?
The only one of those that comes anywhere close is biscuit but I think your best bet is, as /u/ediblemalfunction said, is to just leave it out. However, you might want to increase the graham cracker clear if it's not already being used at a high percent. I'd have to see the recipe to say for sure whether thats a good idea. Maybe make a small batch with just leaving it out, try it, and then decide whether it needs more crust?
This is the recipe. It turned out ok w/o the pie crust. I threw in some TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust at 2% and it meshed pretty well.
How many juices do you guys usually alternate between to avoid your tastes buds getting immune to your ADV? Do you vape the same juice all day? Does the flavor diminish? Or do you try to switch between a few juices daily/weekly?
I have one ADV but after a few days the flavor starts to become extremely muted, and then soon after I can't taste anything. I vaped straight vp/pg for a day and then the flavor came back but it quickly disappeared again.
Been wanting to make an Abuelita hot chocolate vape. Unfortunately I have no idea what type of chocolate they use. It's kinda like tootsie roll type flavor with nutmeg and some cinnamon. Any hints as to what kinda of chocolate might help me get there would be greatly appreciated.
Got a quick question. Last time I mixed my juice I bought a nic base that was 70/30 VG/PG. I didn't really see that the site I'm ordering from offers nic in 100% PG or VG as well, but only with 32 mg/ml nic. Now, I wanted to make a 80/20 VG/PG juice @ 3 mg/ml nic strenght and I'm not sure whether I should buy the 100% VG or PG nic base. Any tips?
I would order VG if I were you. Ordering pg at only 32 mg/ml is going to bring your mixes right to the line or possibly over it for 20% total pg (i.e. Nic plus flavorings, which I assume are pg-based as well in your case). You can always get a small bottle of pg to add if you need.
As a side note, you can easily answer these sorts of questions by making a mock recipe in any ejuice calculator. You will see exactly how much VG, pg, nic base and flavoring you'd need for any recipe you're thinking of.
I would always recommend PG over VG as it is much easier to work with. The other comment is correct, recipes calling for more than 10% flavoring will bend your 80/20 ratio slightly. I'd say it's still worth it, but it's your call in the end.
The thing is, I now have no idea how much flavoring I need. When I first started researching, every site said 20%. But now I look at recepies and they're at like 7%. Max I've seen lately is 15%..
Depends entirely on what the author is trying to accomplish, a good recipe can be anywhere from 5-20%, but 10% would be a good average. Personally I prefer the ones below 10%.
Almost 10% of the mix will be the PG nic base, so at 15% flavoring you would be at 75/25 VG/PG and 20% flavoring would put you at 70/30 VG/PG. The difference is minute, but you may have your reasons for wanting 80/20 VG/PG that would warrant the hassle of VG based nic.
Hey Nicotine is not allowed in my country please tell me what to do 😭 I live in jordan BTW
Try distilled water to emulate a throat hit. You won't be able to find a suitable stimulant, but you can at least have the feel of nicotine.
Hey yall, this is like my 3rd time posting in this thread haha. I was about to order PG, VG, nic and flavors to make my first multi-flavor DIY (God's Milk), but I found out that I can't get my hands on TFA Dragon fruit flavor. The only Dragon fruit flavors that are available to me are from CAP and FW. I asked the man /u/ID10-T himself, but he hadn't tried either one before. Which one should I go for? I'm leaning towards CAP, since in the description of FW's Dragon fruit it says that they use ethanol in addition to PG as a distillant in the flavor.
TFA Dragonfruit is totally different from those two. It's not even really a true Dragonfruit flavor. Where are you located?
Northern Norway. I don't really know where to import from. I buy all my flavors from esmokes.se . They're located in Sweden.
Domestic vendors are usually best, have you tried pgvg.no?
In Sweden, I prefer these guys for DIY supplies, better bang for the buck. I'm not sure about international shipping though, you might even get a better deal from the UK, such as https://www.chefsflavours.co.uk/
I went through 10ml's of CAP Dragonfruit thinking it was TPA and I couldn't understand why people like it so much. It didn't ruin the strawberry milk recipes, but once I got my hands on TPA Dragonfruit it made such a huge difference.
Imagine how this recipe improved (14% dragonfruit)
Hey, this was my first diy order. I'm not sure of what way to mix them. Was thinking of doing 60mls each flavour when divided but my only worry is how do i know the right amount of the flavour shot i should add to a 60ml? For clarity i ordered 200mls of base. http://imgur.com/oD1az6L
On that site, looking at the description, it tells you the recommended % for each one. Use one of the many calculators like this one.
Might I suggest making smaller batches than 60ml, you know, to make sure you like it and don't waste your base. Just looking at the PB recipe, I would also advise using half the recommended % to start. Those look way over-flavored.
How tf do you search on atf? I tried to search track juice but nothing comes up as well as every other time I try to search something. You really need to know the exact authors name to search for something?
Hey guys!
So, I'm not really a "New Mixer" - I've been mixing for about a year now, a little more. Unfortunately, my flavors are just never as good as something I buy in the store, and it's crushing me.
As someone who's trying to quit smoking, when my ejuice doesn't have a decent flavor, I can't help but dive straight back into cigs.
I've been all over the internet looking for ways to make good juice, but I just can't figure it out. I've tried steeping (as short as a few days to as long as over a month). I've tried reducing flavor percentages, increasing flavor percentages, simplifying my flavor combinations (I've mixed juices with anywhere from 1-5 flavors in it). I've tried dropping from 70VG/30PG to 50/50.
No matter what, I get these weak half-flavors that feel like they're mostly just a little sweet. The only time I can get strongish flavor is from berries and fruits, which very quickly water themselves down to that bland sweetness I was talking about. I did notice that when I swapped from a pen-style to a eVic VTC Mini, all juices seemed to lose some flavor (my preferred VTC juice from RipeVapes even tasted less spectacular, though when I moved to stainless steel from nickel coils, I got a bit of an improvement). When I first started, I avoided diketones, but in the search for better flavor I've abandoned that and now am messing with these four primary flavors (all from TFA): Caramel (Original), Vanilla Cupcake, Peanut Butter, and Hazelnut. I'm aware that people have suggested that these creamy, custardy flavors require more steep time, but frankly, I haven't seen any improvement from steeping.
I tend to vape between 35w and 55w, though mostly that seems to affect my cloud size and throat hit more than it does the flavors, and when on temp control mode, I usually float between 400F and 500F. I'm using the Crown Uwell 1.0 with SS 0.25ohm coils.
Please, help me get better taste from my juices, I'm desperate! What's even more frustrating is that I've found a local vape company that mixes their juices on-site (you can watch them do it, and they're not doing anything different so far as I can tell), and they're still producing better flavor than I am! I can't imagine that TFA is the problem - most people seem to approve of their juices. Even recipes that I've replicated have just tasted super weak!
EDIT: Should note that another reddit user, in a thread about max flavor percentages, described that some low percentage juices "taste like air" to him/her. This description really resonated with me - it's all very airy and empty, almost as though I were just vaping unflavored juice on coils that had recently been used with some other juice.
Have you tried mixing from recipes on here and sites like ELR and AtF, or are you just coming up with your own?
Personally, I use osdiy's Lucky Shot flavoring, mixed at 6%, with 1% hazelnut, 1% caramel. Comes out delicious. osdiy is super cheap at $30 for a 16 oz bottle.
>Have you tried mixing from recipes on here and sites like ELR and AtF, or are you just coming up with your own?
Both, though I've started just going for single-flavor recipes in order to reduce the number of variables that could be messing with my mixing. It's been awhile since I've used a recipe from the internet.
Have you tried different coils/different tank or RDA?
Well, I figure thats not the problem since in general, I can taste store bought flavors ok.
It's pretty much my last ditch effort since it just means abandoning part of my setup
The flavors you mentioned are mostly used for mouthfeel or as supporting notes, you probably want a fruit or berry as a main flavor.
Have you tried a different PG/VG supplier during your time DIYing?
Changed coils on my tfv8 multiple times the last couple days because i thought they were burning but i'm beginning to think its my ejuice, i started making them and the first batch tasted fine on my first coil, but now they have a funny taste, almost a slightly burnt taste. I only vape menthol juices. Recipe: 70vg, 30pg, 2% tfa wintergreen, 5% 1:10 menthol/pg mix, 3mg nic.
What coils are you using? The x4 wicked terribly for me. I had to use a sewing needle to poke holes in the cotton so it would wick fast enough. After that the burnt and dry hits stopped.
I'm on BCV getting ready to make my order. I want to try a Cantaloupe and VBIC. I have CAP Cantaloupe. What are some other melon flavors you recommend? I don't want it to taste like a Watermelon VBIC. More of just a touch of light melon. I'm trying to remix a old juice called King Louie, from Blue Label. I know cloning is just about impossible, but if I could get the flavor close I'd be happy. Here is the flavor description- Freshly sliced Cantaloupe topped with scoops of Vanilla. Bean Ice Cream.
FLV Wild Melon is really good, even as a standalone. 2-3% is plenty strong for me. And there are plenty of recipes around here somewhere.
FA Cantaloupe is the one I settled on for straight up cantaloupe, really good to me.
Other Melon flavor? Definitely JF Honeydew Melon. BCF doesn't carry JF, though.
I want to try a new flavor but I'm still a noob, and I just want some opinions on if this combo could work. Ive only ever used the vanilla before. All of these are TFA.
Vanilla Swirl
DX Bavarian Cream
Cheesecake (graham crust)
DX Caramel Original
Strawberries and Cream
Suggestions?
I'm not familiar with some of those. What I do is look at flavor notes online and compare to my experience so far. Then mix together whatever I'm thinking with as few ingredients as possible only after trying that will I start to add things in to get the profile I'm after.
I've been burned twice over the weekend by BCF randomly clearing my cart.
I'm looking to make my first order from ECX, but first I'd like to see what kind of bottles they ship in. If anyone could let me know what the 10mL, 30mL and 4oz bottles ship in it would be greatly appreciated. A picture would be great too!
Never bought 4 oz from there but the 10ml are more or less the same as BCF. The 30ml are also similar except the caps have that annoying ring on the bottom like FLV original caps do. This thread is about to go down because it's Monday - time for a new New Mixers' Questions thread - if you post this again in the new one someone might post some pics.
Hi guys. For anyone who's still reading this. How much does altering the base VG/PG of a recipe effect the flavour?
I've had recipes say a 90/10 VG/PG ratio for their recipe, but I find my coils don't wick well at that high of a VG ratio. I usually mix 30/70 VG/PG regardless.
Thanks!
Higher VG = less throat hit, bigger clouds, less flavor, may need to steep longer.
Lower VG = more throat hit, smaller clouds, more flavor. Possible leaking issues depending your device and ratio.
I just mix everything 70/30 VG/PG (you typed 30/70 VG/PG, was that a typo or is that what you really mix?). Although, I'm aware when I do that the amount of flavoring I'm using might be more intense than the creator intended. So if I'm providing feedback to someone, I'll be sure to let them know right away that I mixed it at 70/30 instead of the recommended 90/10.
Thanks for the response. I did indeed mix at 30/70. I figured PG carries flavour better and I'd seen others mix at that ratio on here. Any inherent problems with mixing at 30/70? My nic base is 100% PG too.
I've seen your username around a lot in the DIY recipes. If you don't mind me picking your brain... Is there a website where I can input what concentrates I have and it populates a list of recipes? I know there's ones for cooking/food!
If not, I've got these concentrates on hand. Any good combinations/links you could provide me with these off-hand? Thanks.
CAP Choc Glazed Doughnut CAP Cappuccino V2 TFA Strawberry FW Blueberry TFA Blackberry TFA Vanilla Swirl
The only way that's a problem is if it hurts your throat, makes clouds that are too thin to be satisfying, or causes your device to leak. But if you enjoy it and aren't having any problems with it, that's all that matters. That is the beauty of DIY, you can just do you.
Alltheflavors.com does that, you give it all of your ingredients and you can ask it what you can make. I doubt you'll find anything that you can make just those flavors, but you can also ask it to tell you what you could make with just one more flavor or just two more flavors. That can help you decide what to order next.
Not that you can't mix up something tasty with what you do have.
Try: Choc Glazed Doughnut 6% + Cappuccino 1% + Vanilla Swirl 4%
Or: Strawberry 5% + Blueberry 3% + Blackberry 0.5% + Vanilla Swirl 4%.
Is there anywhere that lists out which creams or desert flavors are diketone free? I'm going to put in another order for flavors, and I want to include some cream and desert flavors, but I'd prefer to skip out on flavors containing diketones if possible.
Almost every vendor will have a warning on flavors that contain diketones. V2 from Capella and DX from TFA don't contain DA/AP. FA is rumored to be DA/AP free entirely, and they did do some GC/MS testing on their flavors; I couldn't be bothered to read through them all though. Flavorah doesn't ADD DA/AP to their flavors, but that doesn't mean there isn't any in them. FW and INW don't give a fuck, they just want to make the best flavors they can without things like "health" and "welfare" to restrict them.
Thanks!
No problem. TFA and FW also list on their websites the components in almost every flavor, but that would require more time than just trusting the vendors that rebottle the flavors.(You can trust them, I know most of them personally and they're pretty much all stand-up guys.)