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INW Lemon
submitted over 8 years ago by ConcreteRiver

Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 15 wrap 26g 3mm Nifethal 70 coils @.16 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.

Testing: INW Lemon @ 1%, 60/40 VG/PG, Steeped 13 days

Flavor Description: Bright, tart, moderately sweet candy lemon instead of a lemon juice or actual lemon flavor. Not quite as thick and sweet as FA Lemon Sicily, but very much in the same vein. No creamier undertones like JF Juicy Lemon either. I don't get a lemon pledge or cleaning product kind of vibe from this at all, which can be a problem with stronger citruses that don't have a ton of body.

Inhale is all lemon deep candy sweetness. No real zest here. Moderately dense but a building kind of sharp tartness. Exhale has a softer lemon candy flavor. Fairly bright, dense but no hint of any cream or anything like that. Definitely a candy sweetness, but not too sugary. Really light zest top notes but those accent the candy flavor as opposed to taking over. No lingering astringency or weird top notes, mostly a little bit of rawness in the mouth and a bit of a bit of a sugary mouthfeel.

Off-flavors: Nope. It's a fairly strong lemon flavor but at a reasonable percentage there is nothing that skews toward astringent or cleaning products.

Throat Hit: Pretty light. It's a strong citrus flavor, but it's fairly smooth all things considered.

Uses & Pairings: This flavor should fit in where you need a tart candy lemon type of flavor, but all of the other options are just too sweet. The tartness here is really cool, and something that doesn't really show up in the sweeter candy lemon concentrates.

Seems like the best use would be lemon bakeries and creams where you want to have a flatter, more savory base that isn't just straight sugar. I think it'd go well imparting good lemon flavor in like a cheesecake or milkshake

This gets a good amount of play in lemonade flavors, specifically because it has some of the tartness you get with sweetened lemons, but still manages to avoid being oversweet or too heavy. Seems like a good lemon for sweet tea as well. This still gets a bit too sweet for my tastes at higher percentages, but it's definitely more nuanced than some of your other options.

Notes:

Not quite as strong as you'd expect from a lemon flavor from inawera. Not weak by any means, but you can get over 1% without completely destroying your sinuses and throat. S&V Concentration testing, At .25% I get a lighter tartness. At .5% there is some sweetness, but the lemon flavor is feeling a bit thin. 1% is good, with some balanced sweetness and a bit of a sharper lemon tartness. Solo at least, 1.5% seems to be the sweet spot here. I get a full sweetness, some balanced tartness, and a nice clear flavor. After that the sweetness takes off at the expense of the more nuanced tart lemon. 2% seems distinctly sweet to me and by 3% I'm getting a more straight ahead lemon candy flavor like Lemon Sicily. Personally, I'd mix with this starting at .75% in accent roles with other fruits around, and maybe push to 1.5% and work up for stronger lemon bakeries and creams. I know this gets used higher (cough ID10-T) but I think at higher percentages it works more as a candy lemon sweetner than a good standalone lemon flavor.

Second Opinions:

Plenty of talk about this in the sub, just no flavor review.

Really good discussion of how this stuff works in the INW Lemon Mix Review. Among the most salient points:

"INW Lemon 3% works great as the main flavor in a lemonade recipe but I wouldn't recommend using it that high otherwise because it would overpower other concentrates. However, it's only about half as strong as Lemon Mix. At 3% you don't get that perfume quality you get when you make the mistake of using just a little too much of many INW flavors. Also no lemon Pledge taste like you get at higher percentages of other lemons. Throat hit is present, as you would expect from a citrus, but not excessive: INW Lemon has less throat hit than an equal amount of Lemon Mix. The sweetness almost gets into lemon candy territory, though, and it is missing that lovely, slightly bitter note that Lemon Mix has. It's flatter, too sweet, and less natural-tasting without being backed up by some Lemon Mix." -/u/ID10-T/

In an older FOTW Lemon Post, /u/botboy141/ adds "Lemon Concentrate is a strong, slightly sweet, candy-like lemon but without the lemon pledge quality of many others."

Here's your ELR Page. Mostly postive about strength and accuracy, although a couple complaints about a soapy taste.

And the BCF Page, because why not.

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8 points
 
by kindgroundover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Love this in bakeries and candies where a sweeter lemon would push sweetness over the top. It's definitely one of my favorite lemon concentrates.

I use it in my [Lemon Frosted Almond Shortbread] (http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1115741/Lemon+Frosted+Almond+Shortbread+v6) recipe and it really shines there.

6 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Thanks for saving me from having to go find and more or less repeat all of that re: the Lemon + Lemon Mix combo.

3 points
 
by yoopergeekover 8 years ago

[Best lemonade recipes as far as I'm concerned] (https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5bbkgn/flavor_review_inw_lemon_mix/d9n7adf)

5 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Thanks! Have to give credit to /u/Botboy141 any time those come up. You should have tasted all the many horrible, horrible ones I mixed up on my way to creating that Frosted Lemonade. I was flailing around in a lemony ice cream nightmare until Mr. Bot suggested a 3:1 ratio of INW Lemon/Lemon Mix.

I knew he didn't mean 3% and 1% but I mixed that up anyway to try them together after single-flavor testing them and was like WOW! Real Lemonade!

Frosted Lemonade was easy after that. It started with 3% Lemon, 1% Lemon Mix and 6% VBIC and then I just kept reducing a little at a time until it came together. Somewhere between 5% and 4% VBIC I realized it needed more milkyness without more vanilla and heavy ice cream notes, and threw in some FA Cream Fresh. It's still not spot on for one of those Chick Fil A drinks but I stopped caring about accuracy when I felt like it couldn't possibly taste any better.

5 points
 
by Botboy141over 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

I LOVE LEMON

2 points
 
by ConcreteRiverover 8 years ago

I'm a considerate nemesis.

5 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

I LOVE your write-ups! I suck at flavor testing. There are MANY flavors that I enjoy when mixed that I absolutely hate testing as a standalone. So, shaping profiles for me is extremely hard. IDK how much free time you have on your hands, but I'm willing to send you some flavors that I would love to have you review. I'll cover shipping costs. I find myself copying your notes and referring to the review archives every time I'm about to try a new mix. But for the life of me, I can't form flavor profiles on my own.

3 points
 
by ConcreteRiverover 8 years ago

I'll PM you. If they are something that is already in the archive with a review I may have my own notes on them already.

3 points
 
by coop34over 8 years ago

For those who enjoy candies, pair with TFA Sweet&Tart at 3:1 ratio for a Lemonhead!

3 points
 
by Erock11over 8 years ago

Lemon glazed cookies...seems like this flavor could be a good ingredient for that!

3 points
 
by JQWebcoover 8 years ago

I can't believe I don't have this in my flavor arsenal already, one of the few INW flavors I'm missing... Thanks for the review, great details!

2 points
 
by mentionhelperover 8 years ago

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2 points
 
by Bevlarover 8 years ago

Lemon Cookie

FA Cookie 2%
CAP Italian Lemon Sicily 2%
INW Lemon 2%
INW Biscuit 1% TPA Acetyl Pyrazine 0.75%

The 2 lemons make up the top note, it's very lemony.
Cookie and biscuit make up the base and the AP adds a little grainy/nuttiness to the mix.

Apologies for the poor notes, I don't note so good.

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