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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of February 27, 2017
submitted over 8 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

I feel like we could include a list of all the past weekly mixer threads somewhere for new users to be able to easily view all the most asked questions.

Past Weekly New Mixers Threads

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by TadnJessover 8 years ago

Hey mod's, can we get a link like this for the sidebar?

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by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

I can provide all threads since 2014 formatted in anyway.

I'm thinking maybe a table would be a lot more readable.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

> FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

The Automod has been promising this since forever and failed to deliver. Can you take care of that? You can do it in the form of a post, something like the top three questions from every month, and I'll put a link to that post in the sidebar.

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by geb999over 8 years ago

Is your juice good yet?

mine is. I've been mixing almost two months now and I must say DIY has surpassed my expectations. But that is no thanks to me. For you new mixers do check out ELR, ATF and the recipe threads here on the sub. I'd really like to send a thank you out to ID10-T, Fizzmustard, NotCharlesManson, Tranceinate and a bunch of other mixers whose names don't come to mind but post on this sub. My goal when I started DIY was to not get caught flatfooted when the FDA rules do (or don't) limit commercial juice and have a few "vapeable" juices and perhaps save a few bucks. Those goals have been met and then some. So far I've just been copying recipes with an occasional sub/adjustment here or there to suit my tastes, but I can see trying my hand at my own creations down the line (still learning how flavors mix and come together). It would not surprise me one bit if some of some commercial companies come to this reddit, copy recipes, change the names and sell them for tons of cash.

When I get those seemingly daily emails for a "juice sale" all I can think now is that even $20 for a 120ml bottle is too much. Plus many of the recipes I've tried are so much better than commercial. All that plus I'm trying mixes for juices outside my usual profile (and loving some of them). The icing on this cake is all the help the moderators and others on this sub give when answering questions. You guys could not have made it any easier for people to switch over to DIY. My tastebuds and wallet thanks you all.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Awww, shucks, geb. This made my day. :)

> but I can see trying my hand at my own creations down the line

I hope so. I'm excited to see what you can some up with.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Soooo... I need PG, VG, nic, and flavors. Suggestions on where to buy them? I'd rather get the best quality stuff at a fairly reasonable price.

Aside from bottles, what do I need to use for measurements?

Edit: I just joined this thread, so I've been scrolling. Found a few recommendations for where to buy supplies, but I would still appreciate any suggestions if anyone has new suppliers. Also, I haven't found anything on measuring, except 1% this 0.5% that... a brief ELI5 would be awesome.

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

Im a new mixer and I got 95% of my supplies from Nicotine River. I got a scale and bottles off amazon. Pg, vg, nic and flavorings I got from NR. I'm very pleased with them. Everything was packaged nicely, nothing leaked and the quality of everything I received was great.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Wow, they have some great prices. What'd you think about the flavors they have? I think I'll make an order today. I have a few recipes I've found on here that I'd like to try.

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

They carry flavors from all the big manufacturers. Find recipes you'd like to try, and pick the flavors from the manufacturers you need (capella, tfa, etc.).

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

If you haven't already please read the sidebar! Every question you asked has at least one great answer there. Use a scale that measures to .01 grams for your recipes. The percentages translate into weight or volume. It is the percentage of your mix that is that flavor.

ECX is a pretty good one stop shop. There is also a great thread from a while back about starting out, I'll edit in a link.

What a Noob has Learned After ~ 1 Month of DIY

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5t4w5j/what_a_noob_has_learned_after_1_month_of_diy/

Read the comments section too.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Thanks man.. I'm currently on the mobile app so I don't have access to the sidebar. I'll check it out when I get to my pc. I'll check out the link now!!

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

What app? You can find the sidebar by looking in "community info" should be in the top right corner in a drop down menu.

Logical Increments of DIY gear (alpha)

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5fu9ji/logical_increments_of_diy_gear_alpha/

This should be on your read now list also. It's in the sidebar, I found this very helpful. It's been updated recently

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by Synysterjesterxover 8 years agoPâtissier

Bull city flavors. Amazon for vg/pg. Nude nicotine for nic.

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by amouthforwarover 8 years ago

I know some custards, creams, bakeries take some time to steep. Do any seem to reach their peak a little faster than others?

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

It always varies from one flavor to the next, the percentages, the PG/VG-ratio, temperature, etc all have an influence. If you want to know specifically for a certain mix, you'll have to test it at various times of the steep to know when it's ready, with the added benefit of learning how the flavor is shaped over time. It's not that useful to know the steep time for a single ingredient unless it's exceptional or you'll be mixing it solo. I've never kept notes on that.

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by amouthforwarover 8 years ago

Im mainly askng for s&v reasons. Im not a big fruit guy, except for maybe strawberries and cream mixes. Been trying to do a bakeryish s&v or a ry4 cream. Got a nice apple cinnamon danish that came out okay, but wondering what else i could try...

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Most mixes are vapable right off the bat, don't be afraid to try them just because it says they need to steep. Some really do, and during this process you'll learn why. It's hard to be more specific than that as it's very situational. Think of it as cookie dough, it can taste awesome, but in some cases you really need to bake it before it's palatable, and that's not necessarily due to the individual components but rather the combinations thereof.

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by cloudstatevaporover 8 years agoMixologist

I would in general give all Creams 1 week and Custards 2 weeks, and with bakeries there is so much that can make a difference, but I give a base line of a week.

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by DNMWeedReviewerover 8 years ago

How Do I recreate the Juul Juice

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Use the search option

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by joshj5hawkover 8 years ago

How do you guys tackle switching flavors? Do you use a new tank/coil each time?

Disclaimer: I know what a mod, tank, and coil are but don't know shit about the details lol

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by Boondocover 8 years ago

depends. if it's something new that i haven't tried before or if i'm switching between wildly different profiles, i rewick. if i'm going fruit to fruit or bakery/dessert to bakery/dessert i just vape through it.

but i only use rebuildables and i'm not that big on bakery and desserts. if i was using a tank with prebuilt coils i'd probably use more than one and have one for fruits and one for other profiles.

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by 3423553453over 8 years ago

> Disclaimer: I know what a mod, tank, and coil are

I'm sure all DIYers mostly use RDAs.

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by joshj5hawkover 8 years ago

Google says "Rebuildable Dripping Atomizer" baha. Is it bad that I just use the tank I got with my mod? I drive a van for 8 hours a day at work so an RDA doesn't seem like it'd suit me.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

No. It's not bad at all. It's just not adequate for testing purposes

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by 3423553453over 8 years ago

It may be more convenient to you for daily use but it certainly is a hassle when it comes to testing flavors.

Some flavor compounds have a very high [residence time](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Residence_time_(fluid_dynamics)) and may take forever to flush out without a thorough cleaning.

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by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Usually I just push through the transition of flavour for like half a tank, doesn't last long. If I'm testing 3-4 different flavours on an RDA, I may rework once. And I definitely know the 2nd or 3rd juice through is not going to taste exactly like it should due to previous juices

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by 3423553453over 8 years ago

I made this recipe I found out by browsing the old monthly recipe threads from last year: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4vkvui/strawberry_milks_a_recipe_born_out_of_nostalgia/

It suggests adding 0.3% koolada for a cool milk so I did add one drop to ~12ml but then I also added 2 drops of pure water (<20PPM) because I usually like that.

Now crystals started to form immediately, it's like the koolada made snow flakes in contact with the water, I did remix without water and there is no crystals. I tried heating up the mix but the flakes are not dissolving.

I searched the sub but couldn't find anything about this, is that a known thing that we shouldn't mix water and koolada ? Anything I can do to salvage those mix ?

edit:

> Anything I can do to salvage those mix ?

The crystals are floating so I stored the bottles upside down and emptied most of it in another container, can't taste the koolada at all from the resulting juice so I guess that's what it was.

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by AhmaTowalover 8 years ago

Nicotine salts, what's the difference? Is it better? Does it mix the same at the same percentages, so can i subsitute free base for nicotine salt in a recipe and get the same result?My mom just got a juul to stop smoking and I'm trying to make it as cheap as possible for her to keep her motivated. Also can it be used in normal open system, box mod, setups? I haven't read anything about it other than some people using it for refill pods.

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by Kraftykiwiover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

> Nicotine salts

[This] (https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4z8qog/nude_nicotine_signature_and_the_juul/) may be useful.

Use: site:reddit.com/r/diy_ejuice Nicotine salts to find more

3 points
 
by PoorPappyover 8 years ago

For a Placid-ish mix, can strawberry ripe work reasonably well instead of TPA strawberry? I like the basic flavor profile and don't care if it it close to the original. I'm placing a concentrates order on a budget. edit: screw it, ordered both

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

They are very different as you'll find out for yourself :) Personally I dislike TFA Strawberry but TFA Strawberry Ripe is one of my most used ingredients.

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by PoorPappyover 8 years ago

Thank you.

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

opposite for me. ripe has this weird... overly green taste to it whenever i've used it. like eating a strawberry that's still slightly white at the tip or getting some of the leaves in a bite.

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Yea there seems to be two camps =) I get a slightly over-ripe but very fresh and sweet strawberry from Ripe, while plain Strawberry tastes super artificial, perfumey, I don't even know how to describe the taste.

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by Zaphodforpresident42over 8 years ago

I feel kind of stupid for asking this but...

Where do you store your flavors?

Cupboard? Fridge?

3 points
 
by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

Cupboard for me. Slot of people organize theirs on nail polish racks. There is no reason to keep them cold, just keep them out of the sunlight and away from heat.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

10 ml bottles on a makeup display rack in a room that doesn't get direct sunlight (blinds, curtains, and a window that doesn't face east or west). A spice rack would work too. Larger bottles in a desk drawer, I should really build or buy a shelf. paging /u/Apexified to give him a chance to show off.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

I'll show off but only because you asked.

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

Could you tell me a little bit about that label printer you have behind the scale?

I'm in the market. Looks like.. Dymo?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

/u/Zaphodforpresident42 see above ^^^

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by karmachad212over 8 years ago

Holy sheeit that's a super nice setup!

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by TadnJessover 8 years ago

I store my flavors, PG and VG at room temperature in a closed cardboard box. Heat and sunlight are the worst enemies of flavorings. My Nic on the other hand is stored in the deep freezer.

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by yungxdiabetesover 8 years ago

Hey guys, I just received about 500ml of juice and it's 0mg instead of 1.5. I know there's not much of a difference but i'm not ready to drop to 0mg. How should I go about fixing this? I've not opened any of it, and I don't have a clue about mixing nicotine or anything.

Can anyone help me out? Thanks!

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

If you only want a little bit of nicotine for your 500mL of juice and don't want any leftover, you can purchase a 15mL sample of nicotine here. If you want to use all of the sample in one go, get it in 50mg/mL strength so all you'd have to do is dump the sample into the 500mL of juice to put you at 1.5mg/mL total. I usually get my nic in 50vg/50pg, so you can either do that or get 100vg or 100pg depending on how viscous you want your liquid.

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by yungxdiabetesover 8 years ago

The issue is that it's in different sized bottles. I probably should have been more exact with what I got. I have (3) 120mls and (3) 30mls.

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You can still order the sample I linked along with a syringe (1 to 3mL size should be good). Add 3.6mL to the 120's then 0.9mL to the 30's. This is if you get the 50mg/mL strength.

Edit: If you do order this sample nic, go out and buy a couple bottles of juice to hold you over until the nic arrives.

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by xMoose499over 8 years ago

You could order 48mg/ml (relatively safe compared to 100mg/ml) in a small bottle, like 30 ml (since I am assuming you usually just want to buy it at 1.5) and mix into 30 ml bottles. You want 1.5mg/ml so 30 ml bottle would be 45 mg of nicotine so taking your concentrate (45/48=0.94ml) add it to your 30ml then fill the rest with your 0mg juice. You would need an empty 30ml bottle to do this and a syringe. IMO

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by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Have a Mustard Milk recipe with 5% strawberry ripe and 2% vanilla bean ice cream. Thinking of ordering FA Meringue in my next order. Would .5-1% of this be a good addition to my creamy fruit juices? Could I use it a little higher at like 2-3% to replace VBIC for a different, yet still creamy flavor?

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

FA Meringue is very sweet and very eggy. I use it primarily as a sweetener in bakery style recipes or as a sweetener with a bit of mouthfeel, around 1%. You can pair it with fruit, but the eggyness will make itself known. It has almost nothing in common with VBIC.

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by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Mmm excellent response. No room for egginess in my cream/fruit vapes. Word on FA Custard? Only other cream I've tried is CAP sweet cream and I hated it. VBIC is so good. Adds the right amount to any fruit at 2%.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

FA Custard is closer to authentic Euro custard, so it's brighter and has a hint of lemon.

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

FA Custard goes well with strawberry, I'm not sure I'd be a fan of other combos. CAP Vanilla Custard is much more versatile, you could try your hands at TFA Bavarian Cream or TFA French Vanilla too. Or just other brands of VBIC, such as FW or CAP, they are similar but different.

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by chasingbetterthingsover 8 years ago

Hi DIY. So I recently got into DIY, and I have to say so far I find myself dissapointed with how my liquids are turning out. While I was not expecting my own recipes to be very good, I made a few highly rated recipes such as Mustard Milk, Suckerpunch and God's Milk but I find that the flavor is not nearly what I'm expecting and usually tastes quite bland in comparison to things I might find in my local shops, even after a long steep (not to discredit the creators, I guess it's just personal taste or maybe I'm mixing them incorrectly).

I suppose my question then is, does anyone know of any recipes that seem to really stand out tasting like 'premium' juices?

I usually prefer fruity flavors, but I'm not opposed to creamy recipes or cereals. Would anyone have some suggestions for some recipes to try? Thanks!

2 points
 
by wee-williamover 8 years ago

I'm in the same boat as this dude! Started a month ago with those same recipes and still not finding the magic

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

What you are probably missing is sweetener. It's generally recommended to avoid sweetener when you are starting out because you will be a better mixer when it's all said and done. But if you must, you can do a quick search for recipes using sweetener and notes about using it to get that "premium" experience

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Have any of the recipes you've tried had sweetener in them?

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by chasingbetterthingsover 8 years ago

I do have Super Sweet (Cap) that I have been trying out in different juices, it helps with some flavors but in some I find it overpowering even in small amounts. In others its still not giving me quite what I am looking for. As for a recipe that calls for sweetener specifically, not yet :P

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Usually when people have problems with their juices not having a "premium" taste, the culprit is their palate not yet adjusting to juices laden with sweetener. How much is a "small amount?"

Of course it could be other things. What is your steeping method like?

2 points
 
by sakasa465over 8 years ago

Hi DIY. I'm not a new mixer, I've been at this for almost a year now and a friend told me to check out this sub. So looking through the recipes I found quite a few to try but when I mix I go based on ml's of concentrate rather than percentages. So for most of my juices I do no more than 6ml of concentrate for a 30ml bottle. My question is how do I base the percentages? Is it based off the total ml count of the bottle size I'm making? I know it might be on the sidebar but I can't seem to find the sidebar on the mobile site.

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by Boondocover 8 years ago

It's based on the total amount of liquid. I suggest using an e-liquid calculator such as the alltheflavors.com or e-liquid-recipes one.

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by sakasa465over 8 years ago

Okay, thank you I'll check those out once I get off work.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Alrighty, I've put together my order and I'm ready to pull the trigger but I want to make sure I have everything I need. I already have the safety equipment so I'm leaving that out.

This is what my order consists of:

  • 100mg Nicotine 500ml/ PG base
  • 1 gallon of PG
  • 1 gallon of VG
  • Syringes - 1ml, 3ml, 5ml, 30ml
  • 20 Glass Bottles 60ml

Flavors (all are 4oz or 8 oz):

  • TFA Pear
  • TFA Vanilla Cupcake
  • TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • TFA Sweetener
  • TFA Sweet Cream
  • TFA Crunchy Cereal
  • TFA Strawberry
  • TFA Caramel Candy
  • TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust
  • TFA Bavarian Cream
  • TFA Apple Pie
  • CAP Sugar Cookies v1
  • CAP Vanilla Custard v1

Any suggestions on what I'm missing or a flavor or two to add to make a recipe you know would be great to try?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

A scale to measure by weight - so much quicker and easier, disposeable pipettes if your flavors don't come with dropper bottles, disposable plastic bottles maybe, smaller bottles for single-flavor tests and so you're not committing to making 60ml bottles of things you might not like, recipes that you plan to use for those flavors if you don't have them already lined up, and

Jesus H. on a motorcycle smaller bottles of flavors than 4 to 8 oz of flavors you haven't tried yet and might detest! 4oz of TFA Sweet Cream and TFA Crunchy Cereal? IDK about the Crunchy Cereal but other TFA cereals are notoriously bad. Sweet Cream can be useful in small amounts but over 2% tastes like toe cheese to me and maybe to you too... 4oz would be more than a lifetime supply. Seriously recommend getting some 10ml flavors and making sure you like them first. Seems like about 75% of people love TFA VBIC, but the other 25% have like some kind of genetic defect that causes them to perceive it as tasting like straight up black pepper. What if you buy 8 oz of that only to discover you're one of those pepper people?

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

> CAP Sugar Cookies v1

> CAP Vanilla Custard v1

Those are the only two I'd get in 4oz +

Jesus H. on a motorcycle is correct!

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Yeah, CAP Sugar Cookie I have actually used 4 oz of already and ordered a 4 oz replacement, and my 4 oz CAP VC is getting low. But what if he or she is one of those weirdoes who doesn't like those? I'm not going to advise someone buy 4 to freakin 8 ounces of a flavor they haven't tried yet. Not even Sugar Cookie.

3 points
 
by McVapeyover 8 years ago

I'm big on sugar cookies so I'll keep these at 2oz. Everything else is getting 10ml.

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by CHINCBover 8 years ago

This, so much this. Don't waste your sanity on mixing by volume. Scales are cheap, reusable and the advantage isn't only in more accurate mixes but MUCH less cleanup.

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by coop34over 8 years ago

Might I suggest getting smaller bottles of flavoring? 4oz is a lot to be stuck with iffen you don't like them. Like, a whole lot. 30 or even 10ml is the size I get for new to me flavors.

The 60ml glass bottles, I assume is to break down the nic for storage? And don't forget a titration kit! I like to be assured of my nic being correct.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Flavoring shrunk. Yea, I got the 60s for storage.

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

4 and 8 ounce is a LOT of flavoring to be stuck with if you don't like one of them. You might want to stick to 1 oz starting out to make sure you'll enjoy and actually use the flavor before committing to larger bottles.

Also skip the syringes and pick up the LB-501 scale from Amazon. Way easier to mix with, and way less clean up when you're done.

Also consider getting some smaller plastic bottles in 15 or 30ml for testing new mixes. Pick up a couple 120ml or 250ml squeeze bottles for your pg and vg as well to use while mixing.

Just my opinions of course!

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

Added the smaller bottles, pipers, larger bottles, and shrunk the flavor sizes!!! I'll order the scale today as well. Thanks!

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

Sounds good. It's easy to overlook the small things. Good luck!

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by TadnJessover 8 years ago

Your base supply list looks good, but you will probably end up using more VG than PG. I would suggest that you find recipes that sound good first before building your flavoring list. Then only buy the flavorings for those recipes. You may want to consider smaller amounts of flavoring at first so that you do not get stuck with large amounts of flavoring that you may not like. You can always reorder more of what you do like in larger quantities later. As far as recipes go, search the monthly recipe archives listed in the sidebar, or try https://alltheflavors.com/ and http://e-liquid-recipes.com . Be careful with ELR though, try to stay with highly rated recipes because it tends to be filled with marginal recipes.

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by McVapeyover 8 years ago

I've picked up almost all of the recipes I want to try from this sub and 1 or 2 from ATF. Also adjusted the size of flavors to 10ml. Thanks!

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by TadnJessover 8 years ago

Keep calm and mix on! Welcome to the rabbit hole.

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by Kraftykiwiover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Nitrile gloves

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by se7enohnineover 8 years ago

noticed in the flavour of the week thread, one of the upcoming features will be oddball berries. one of the berries mentioned was lingonberry. they're very popular here in Newfoundland and Labrador, we call them partridgeberries. i'm wondering if anyone has any experience using lingonberry flavourings. i've been dying to mix up a partridgeberry bread pudding flavour.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

u/ID10-T and I were discussing this. We have not come across an actual Lingonberry flavoring, but u/Apexified has come up with a recipe that I've been meaning to try out. Lingonberry

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by se7enohnineover 8 years ago

i found this in my searches. haven't come across anyone that's used it though. it's PG based. i wonder if it's specifically made as a lingonberry flavouring or a combination of other flavours like you linked.

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by Apexifiedover 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

That's definitely interesting. If you do get it, please report back. I've had that place bookmarked but I've never seen anyone use their flavors.

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by getslashedover 8 years ago

What's your experience with Big Mouth concentrates? it's new in my country and I can't find any review on them.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It appears they are one-off concentrates, designed to be mixed as-is. You probably won't find any information on them here.

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by cardyologyover 8 years ago

Hey guys, best place in the UK to buy a DIY kit?

I was considering one called make my vape, anybody used them before? Thanks.

2 points
 
by JayPerpover 8 years ago

I've just ordered a kit. Will be here in two days. I'll keep you posted

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by cardyologyover 8 years ago

Thanks but I ended up ordering too :) Large kit.

Hopefully the flavours I got are nice!

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by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

Will Juicy Orange (CAP) go with Gummi Bear (FW) I'm brand new to this whole DIY Ejuice mixing any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I've never tried FW Gummi Bear but it should work. Both are flavors that could potentially be harsh, so don't overdo the percentages. CAP Juicy Orange is pretty weak and artificial though, FW Blood Orange is a more natural orange flavor.

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by haylee345over 8 years ago

Hi! No matter what I mix, I'm getting dry hits. I ordered all supplies from wizard labs, and all of my flavorings are TFA, TPA, or FA. I vape a 3% nic at under 30 watts with a 70/30 vg to pg. I add 1% marshmallow to all my mixes and allow for a 1-2 week steep in a drawer. My nicotine is kept in the refrigerator. I've tried changing coils.

Flavors I've mixed up are amaretto, bourbon vanilla : dragonfruit : strawberry ripe : juicy peach : pear, vienna cream : combos of the fruits mentioned. I follow recipes and use 7%-15% flavor depending.

Edit: I have a cuboid mini with a notch coil.

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Nothing really stands out. How would you describe the dry hit, does it just taste bad and burnt (coil gunk) or is it hard to inhale to the point of choking (burnt cotton)? If I had to guess, it's either your setup (coil, wattage), or the marshmallow combined with certain flavors.

Edit: Also is it good for a bit, then goes bad, or bad from the start?

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by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

Which creams from the suggested first order list have dairy? I used to love this premium juice and it was strawberry horchata ice cream. I was thinking of doing some mustard milk with cinnamon danish swirl and another milky flavor. Any suggestions?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

FA Cream Fresh or Fresh Cream (same thing, you'll find it called different things on different sites).

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by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

What would you suggest for percentage to add some milkiness?

Also on the cinnamon danish swirl i was thinking 2% too much?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I would have probably started with 1.5% on the CDS and 2% on the Cream Fresh, so that 1.7 and 1.7 looks good to me. I'm glad you found something you're enjoying!

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by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

So I mixed up this recipe in attempt to clone it and its really close. I am going to let it steep for a little but I am amazed that this is so close on my first try. I assume the guy that made this used mustard milk as a base for the strawberry ice cream. Here it is if you want to try it out! http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1246178/Saros+attempt+1

VW strawberry is TFA strawberry im pretty sure so i subbed in 1 for 1. I think the cinnamon danish swirl either needs to be lowered, steeped or just use a different cinnamon but its all i have at the moment and its working really well.

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by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

I'm considering heating VG to encourage bonding during the cooldown period. No heat-steeping with other flavors involved. Simply heating the VG and then adding flavors and nic to it. I'm a bakery vaper and most of my mixes are 80-85 VG. Two weeks of steeping is a bit...long.

Speaking of steep time, I need some good SNV recipes. I'm getting burnt out on grack juice and shurb. I have about 40-50 popular flavors and a few niche flavors. So, fire away.

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by Tacliteover 8 years ago

Kiwi Bourbon from /u/coop34 is fantastic right away.

MFG | Flavor | Percentage ---------|----------|---------- FA | Kiwi | 4% TFA | Kentucky Bourbon | 2% TFA | Toasted Marshmallow | 2%

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by vProdigyyyover 8 years ago

I'm looking for 10 different flavors that have a variety, but can also make some good mixes. Just looking for a good jumpstart to get into diy! I'm really into fruit flavors, but am looking for something new as well. Thanks in advance!

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I'm not sure whether all of these come in exactly 10 mls but I'm going to list ten favorites of mine.

  • CAP Sugar Cookie
  • TFA Dragonfruit
  • CAP Italian Lemon Sicily
  • TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
  • TFA Strawberry
  • FA Forest Mix (Forest Fruit)
  • TFA RY4 Double
  • LA Lemonade
  • TFA Strawberry Ripe
  • CAP Vanilla Custard
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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Have you looked at the My First Order Flavors in the sidebar?

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by vProdigyyyover 8 years ago

No sir! Thanks for the info I'll check it out!

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by olmilleyover 8 years ago

Ok guys, hoping to get some suggestions. I currently have 3 flavours:

-TFA Hawaiian Drink -TFA Strawberry (Ripe) -TFA Strawberry

I have been looking to purchase some more flavours and so far my list contains:

-TFA Bavarian Cream -TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream -CAP Vanilla Custard -CAP Sugar Cookie

What are some other flavours/recipes I could use to benefit my collection? Really wanting to make something that tastes "premium". Thanks!

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by coop34over 8 years ago

Have you looked at the recipes at alltheflavors.com? Sort by rating and read the reviews. Lots of good stuff there. God Milk flavors are all must haves, meaning they are used in a lot of different recipes.

ELR also has some good recipes. But again, look for those with positive feedback.

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by olmilleyover 8 years ago

Thanks. I have browsed ELR a bit but have never checked out all the flavours. Gonna look some recipes up now. Appreciate it!

3 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

If your looking to mix something up that taste "Premium" your gonna need some sweetener.

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by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

So I just started to mix my own ejuice I made up 2 bottles of the same recipe after steeping for 2 days so far one of the bottle has a layer of clear liquid sitting on the top of it the exact same pg/vg and % of flavours went into both bottles. An reason as to why would be greatly appreciated thanks. Both bottles have no nic the flavours I used were

Cotton candy - TFA 1.5% juicy orange - CAP 2% Koolada - TFA 0.75% Lemonade natural - FW 10% Orange citrus - Flavorah 3% Shisha orange - INA 2% Sweetener (sucralose) - TFA 1.5%

70/30 vg/pg

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by DIY405over 8 years ago

Did you wash the bottles before hand? Maybe there is some soap or water that was left int the bottle ?

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by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

No I didn't. Thanks

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by Boondocover 8 years ago

how much shaking did you do?

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by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

About 30 sec to a minute

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by firentxxxover 8 years ago

How vital is the small percentage of water in VG to the overall process? I'm planning on doing an extraction process that would evaporate the water from the VG so I'm wondering if I should be concerned / add it back after the extraction is complete / or not worry about it. Thanks!

2 points
 
by pieisveryniceover 8 years ago

Okay. So my one love in life right now is the flavour mtbakervapor Honey berries. I've done abit of DIY, and recently a purchased a few mtbaker concentrates. I didn't buy the Honeyberry one because i coulnd't find it. The concentrates barely gave any flavor, i dont know if its was bad, or it was I who was bad. Any way, im a bit on the fence of ordering more of their consentrates i would really appreciate a clone of this delicous eJuice! I googled a litte and found some, but no commets or thoughts from others so i thougt i'd post here. Thanks for reading

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Post this in the Clone Request Thread. MT Baker flavors are mainly just FW flavors. If I had to pick some flavors based on the picture (not FW, which will probably make a better juice) they would be JF Honeydew Melon, LA Watermelon, TFA Kiwi Double, TFA Strawberry Ripe and JF Sweet Strawberry

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by pieisveryniceover 8 years ago

Okay, thank you for your input. I appreciate it.

2 points
 
by thrownawaytrashover 8 years ago

Smoker here trying to quit.

What's a good flavor to combo with menthol? I'm thinking fruit flavors would go well?

made the mistake of buying a rootbeer+menthol liquid and don't want to go through that again...

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/9396#grack_juice_by_philosaphucker

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by DIY405over 8 years ago

If your having any troubles quitting and have any questions feel free to pm me. I had a 1/2 a pack a day habit for 16 years.

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by thrownawaytrashover 8 years ago

Thanks, but I think I'm good.

I'm vaping 95% of the time now and can hardly finish a stick when I do revert back to cigs.

This is the closest I've been able to quit the damn things since forever.

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by DIY405over 8 years ago

Nice!

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by ShotgunWedding0over 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

To be quite honest, nearly every fruit flavor will work well with menthol. The most popular are probably grape, strawberry, or watermelon. I've done menthol with pineapple, orange, pomegranate, kiwi, blackberry, lime, mango, etc. The list goes on. My advice would be to mix up a few different ones, just to change it up every so often.

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by rklimek76over 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I've just got a few questions about sweeteners and I've looked into this pretty extensively, but still had a few questions.

  1. Are TFA EM and TFA Cotton Candy the same exact thing? I've seen it said that Cotton Candy is simply EM, but is it the same concentration as TFA EM?

  2. Is the proper substitution for TFA Sweetener to Cap Super Sweet a 2:1 ratio? I've seen it said that Sweetner is a 5% dilution of Sucralose, while Super Sweet is a 10% dilution, so this seemed appropriate.

  3. I just recently purchased sweeteners and haven't used them extensively, but I was wondering at what concentration sweeteners will begin to cause considerable gunking on coils?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship
  1. Yes, I think they're both just 10% EM and completely interchangeable.

  2. Someone will please correct me if I'm wrong but there isn't a substitution for TFA Sweetener to CAP Super Sweet because TFA Sweetener contains both 5% Sucralose and 5% Maltol. CAP Super Sweet has no maltol and I think it's 20% sucralose rather than 10.

  3. CAP Super Sweet at 0.25% and TFA Sweetener at 1% will gunk pretty good, if gunk is what you're after.

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You're about 3 minutes behind me, bruh.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I can't believe it took me more than 3 minutes to type that. I'm getting so slow in my old age.

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by rklimek76over 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Thanks for the advice man. I saw you won the DIYorDIE Championship, congrats! Swashbuckle Shake is the only recipe I've got the flavors for from the competition, but it sounds delicious and the write-up is hilarious! Thanks for all you've done lately.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Thank you! If you like coconut rum you should enjoy that one. It's got a very Parrot Bay/Malibu thing going on, which by the way makes a great actual milk shake. Couple scoops vanilla ice cream, some coconut milk, coconut rum, blend it up. Milkshake, pirate style. Arrrrgh!

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship
  1. Yes

  2. Substitute based on how sweet you want your juice. TFA sweetener is ~5% sucralose, ~5% maltol, something like 40% water and then PG. There are other sweeteners available that are 10% sucralose. CAP super sweet is ~20% sucralose.

  3. Any sweetener added to your recipes will cause more gunking on coils than if you were to not use sweetener.

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by rklimek76over 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Thanks a lot man, I've heard people talk about using various marshmallows around 1% to add sweetness, but can that sufficiently substitute a sweetener? Btw, I really enjoyed your Cannoli recipe, it's on point, next time I have a bottle on hand I'll have to leave a review on AllTheFlavors! One of these day's I'll pick up some Cap Butter Cream so I can mix up your Apple Buttah, it sounds delicious!

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Marshmallows can add sweetness yes, but nothing compares to the sweetness added with sweeteners.

Thank you for the kind words and I'd appreciate that review. Definitely mix up Apple Buttah if you ever pick up some butter cream. Get some butter cream when you buy sweetener :)

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by PachucaSunriseover 8 years ago

So I have my concentrates (for about 3 recipes) just got my pre mixed base in from LiquidBarn, and with the next paycheck I plan on buying a scale because mixing by weight vs volume seems a bit easier.

However I don't get paid again until next Thursday, scale could arrive by next Saturday (Monday at the latest with Amazon prime).

Problem is I'm running low on juice currently and don't know if I'll be able to last that long. Does anyone have any suggestions as far as mixing goes without the tools to measure by weight volume? Perhaps a drop count converter or something?

Thanks!

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Can you not go to a pharmacy or like a cvs or walmart or something to get a syringe?

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by PachucaSunriseover 8 years ago

Aaaaaaand this is why I posted in the noob thread lol. I might have one around the house that I could use. I'll have to check once I'm off work. Great idea though, appreciate it.

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

If you have kids, you will most likely have something like that around the house. If not go to a pharmacy. You could probably even get a syringe for free if you say you have diabetes or something. Just tell them you don't need the needle.

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

Go to the Walmart pharmacy and ask for some oral syringes. They have skinny 1ml ones that work perfect. Last time I asked they asked me how many I wanted and I ended up with 10 of them.

2 points
 
by robbiepellagreenover 8 years ago

Got a quick question that doesn't deserve it's own thread. When making up the acclaimed grack juice recipe, can I sub the INW raspberry with TFA raspberry sweet or FLV raspberry? Cheers :)

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by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

You can substitute anything you wish, that's the joy of this hobby. If you substitute anything, it won't be the same recipe, though. That's the horror of this hobby.

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by robbiepellagreenover 8 years ago

Haha thanks man yeah i get what you mean! I should have been more specific though. If anyone is familiar with both flavours, would subbing it with FLV raspberry be close to the intended taste of the recipe 😬

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by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Not at all, same with TFA.

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by 3423553453over 8 years ago

You're probably better off omitting it. I've been going through 200ml of grack lately and raspberry doesn't really come out for me, I don't know what it is without it but I doubt I'd miss it.

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by robbiepellagreenover 8 years ago

I ended up mixing up a 30ml subbing it for the FLV raspberry. Figured at such a small percentage, and going by individual flavour reviews of each one, it couldn't hurt it too much.

2 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Thinking 3% FA Rasp, 5% TFA Dragonfruit & 4% strawberry ripe. Anyone ever try that mix? Kind of want to know before I order the flavors. Percentages are just a first estimate.

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by ShotgunWedding0over 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

TFA Dragonfruit at 5% is on the high side. If you were to try this mix, I would take TFA Strawberry Ripe to 6-7% and TFA Dragonfruit down to 1-2%. FA Raspberry will likely drown out the strawberry if you keep it that low.

However, even if this mix doesn't work right away, these flavorings are extremely versatile. You can use these flavors in hundreds of other recipes. I would get them anyways and play around with them.

2 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Thanks!

2 points
 
by bobmarleybroover 8 years ago

I have 3 questions What website is the best place to get concentrates

And what are some of the best recipes using the concentrates mention above

How worried should I be about using concentrates with acetone in them?

5 points
 
by coop34over 8 years ago

Bull City Flavors for the largest selection across the major brands.

The archived recipes from the sidebar, alltheflavors.com and ELR are all good places to find some things you want to mix. Just be sure to sort by rating, and read feedback other mixers have posted.

3 points
 
by chocolatiestcupcakeover 8 years ago

i like to use either gremlinDIY or Ecig express has a larger selection too. there are recipes all over gotta find whats right for you and fits your tastes because there is a TON of variance in the ejuice field. lot of people perceive tastes in their own way or enjoy different types like fruits/bakery/tobaccos/creams/custards. if your concentrate has acetone yes id be very worried but if you mean acetoin which im positive you do ;) then it is not as bad, you will have to do research and decide for yourself cause there is a lot of conflicting information

1 points
 
by bobmarleybroover 8 years ago

Any in the UK as delivery fees from us are abit high

1 points
 
by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

> acetone

you may have figured this out by now but there is no acetone in ecig liquid or flavorings. None.

it's acetoin.

2 points
 
by moist_hatover 8 years ago

Will be starting DIY next month, pretty excited about it all. I'm living in the Netherlands right now, and SaveVape.nl seems to be the best I've found to purchase everything.

My Wishlist here: http://imgur.com/a/Spsw2

VG base, PG base and Nic(48mg PG) is by Insane Tim. I cant find much on the brand online, so a little unsure about that.

Ive gone for a bunch of CAP flavours and swapped one for a TPA due to the v2 getting poor reviews - to try a popular Unicorn Milk clone from http://e-liquid-recipes.com/ I think ill also try a much simpler recipe, perhaps 2 or 3 flavours.

Things I still need to source: Scales, Glass Bottles, Gloves

My questions: How does my wish list look? Got the right things? Will plastic bottles suffice for the time being or is glass a prerequisite? Having trouble finding good bottles with cheap delivery for a good price.

I'm using this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_L18sa1DJJw as my primary guide.

What do you think? Am I good to go?

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I would skip the buttercream and maybe even the sweet cream and pop in another fruit or berry.

Unless you want to go PG heavy, you'll need more VG base than PG, since the nic and flavorings are PG based.

Never heard of Insane Tim, but the PG and VG shouldn't be a problem. With nicotine however, you get what you pay for. Cheap brands can be okay, especially starting out, but if you find that your mixes are too harsh, the nic is the first thing to check.

Plastic bottles are fine, get mostly 10 ml for now. You don't want to make larger batches of something you've never tried before.

Gloves aren't necessary, if you get nic on your skin just wash it off.

You will need that scale though. A cheap syringe may suffice temporarily, but that depends on what kind of bottles the flavorings arrive in. If you go for a syringe or use the pipette for any of the concentrates, be sure to wash it between every use so you don't cross contaminate the liquids.

Looks good though, you have the right idea, you've done the research, time to get your feet wet. You'll have a much better idea of what to order next, once you've made a few mixes.

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by moist_hatover 8 years ago

Unfortunately savevape.nl doesn't have 100% pg in less than 1L bottle, but its not a huge problem. And ill do more research on the nic brand [edit] Oops, it's actually just called Insane (tm), might be easier to research now.

Awesome reply, just what i needed, thanks mate!

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

No worries, best of luck! Hehe, (tm), makes more sense =)

Just want to clarify the VG. If you get twice as much VG as PG and mix just that, you'll get a 66/33 VG/PG ratio. Add in nic and flavorings and you'll end up between 60/40 and 50/50. If you order equal amounts and want something like 70/30, you'll have used up maybe a quarter of the PG when you run out of VG. If that makes more sense.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

Quick steeping question; If I shake two different bottles at say an 80/20 ratio, is the one with the least amount of bubbles the one that has bonded better?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

No. It's just been sitting longer or you didn't shake it as much

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

Made the same day within minutes of each other. Both were the put into an ultrasonic cleaner for a 25min heated cycle before being stored with the cap off. The one that didn't have many bubbles was shook first so I doubt there was much variance in the strength of my shakes. Both were shaken for 10s

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I'd be more concerned with what you're doing to your juice when you expose it to heat and open air than the amount of visible bubbles if I were you. Very little good will come out of that and potentially a whole lot of bad.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Skip the UC and do not store with the cap off. There is no reason to do either one of those things. You are more than likely just ruining your juice rather than helping it

2 points
 
by Ratforover 8 years ago

Canadian here. Tired of clogged coils, I'd like to go unflavoured nothing but vg (maybe watered down for viscosity), at 1.5mg nicotine. I see a liter of vg is about 30$, so I contacted my favourite store to ask how much for a liter of 1.5mg nicotine vg. They said 150$, that seems pretty high considering. Am I missing something?

4 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Tell them to fuck right off. That's absurd. /u/mlnikon could you help your fellow northern friend out?

2 points
 
by Ratforover 8 years ago

Yeah I thought their price was way high. I've emailed some other local stores for prices in the mean time.

2 points
 
by Trees4twentyover 8 years ago

Can get a gallon off Amazon less than that. I get essential depot vg/pg from there. Idk what shipping would run though. Check your local heath food store or co-op they sometimes sell it in bulk

1 points
 
by Ratforover 8 years ago

Buying vg isn't the problem, it's the nicotine

1 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

what are your nic options in canada? if you can get 100mg/ml you can nic a gallon of base @1.5mg/ml with ~60ml of nic, which should only cost you somewhere between $15-30

1 points
 
by mlNikonover 8 years ago

check out diy-ejuice.com. That is crazy. They don't have the nicotine on their website so you will have to add it in the comments section when checking out.

1 points
 
by doom-cookieover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Brokevaper is great. I can't remember exactly how much I paid for 500 ml nicotine and 2 L of VG but it was pretty reasonable, I bought a bunch of flavours at the same time. A little pricier for shipping than I'm used to paying but the box was fairly heavy and it did get here quickly.

1 points
 
by doom-cookieover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I would look up prices myself but the Internet Explorer at work doesn't seem to like that website.

2 points
 
by dutchahover 8 years ago

Does PET hold flavor like LDPE does? I find that getting decent glass dripper bottles is a bit of a hassle and I'm looking into alternatives.

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

https://shop.perfumersapprentice.com/flavorsworkshop/shelf_life.pdf

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by ChaoticLifeover 8 years ago

Hello. I'm eager to start DIY eJuice mixing. I've pretty much built my NicotineRiver order, but would like a second opinion before I place it.
I'm planning to get:
150mL 100mg Nicotine in PG.
1 gallon Vegetable Glycerin.
1 liter PG.
1 16oz squeeze bottle w/ twist top.
1 8oz squeeze bottle w/ twist top.
5 Luer lock 1mL syringes.
1 Luer lock 3mL syringe.
1 Luer lock 5mL syringe.
1 Luer lock 10mL syringe
For flavorings:
1 oz Cantaloupe (Cap)
1 oz Honeydew Melon (Cap)
1 oz Black Cherry (FA)
1 oz Condensed Milk (FA)
2 oz Watermelon (FW)
10mL Nectarine (TFA)

I'm planning to get some 2oz cobalt glass dropper bottles. My goal is to mix 2oz bottles at 3mg at 80-85% VG, 15-20% PG. I'm mainly planning to use 1 flavor per eJuice, although I'm hoping the Condensed Milk and Honeydew produce something similar to Vaping Birdy - Emperor Penguin. I am also planning to get an AWS LB-501 scale. What do you think?

3 points
 
by Trees4twentyover 8 years ago

I wouldn't freelance it at first. Flavors don't always taste the best solo. I'd find a recipe and go off that.

2 points
 
by ChaoticLifeover 8 years ago

Okay, thanks. I was thinking that it would be basically the same as a single flavor house mix eJuice from a local vape shop.

3 points
 
by Trees4twentyover 8 years ago

Well there is a possibility. They don't do that where I live. I mean people mix up single batches to test flavors. I've had a few that were good just as a single flavor. Most need supporting flavors or sweetener.

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I agree with the other comment, single flavors aren't much fun. You're better off ordering the flavorings from a couple of recipes, following the "My First Order" Flavors list in the sidebar, or getting some premixes.

2oz bottles are fine for premixes but if you want to try mixing up recipes, do your own experiments, DIY basically, you should get 10 ml bottles and try things small scale first.

3 points
 
by ChaoticLifeover 8 years ago

Okay, thanks.

3 points
 
by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

I'd skip the syringes all together and just grab a 100 pack of 3ml pipettes.

You can get it cheaper than this but prime is so useful...

Definitely mix by weight for consistency. I made the mistake of getting syringes and mixing by volume. bought a decent sized pack of them. I guess now i've got syringes for other applications though.

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by ChaoticLifeover 8 years ago

Gotcha. Thanks for the feedback. Shouldn't I at least use syringes for measuring the nicotine? Or do you typically measure by weight for that too?

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

i put my nicotine into a 30ml LDPE bottle and just drop it into the mix. you still measure by weight. amber bottles are preferred since nicotine will break down due to light exposure.. but I keep it in a dry, cool, dark space so i figured it was 'k.

here's an example using my strawberry banana milkshake recipe (v2 - no SB Ripe). here's a link to the recipe proper, click "mix" if you need a better idea or you want to edit the nicotine content/ VG/PG ratio.

^(E:I think there are bots crawling these threads... This recipe went from 0->3 views in under 30 seconds after posting... Interesting.)

using 100mg/ml VG based nicotine, 3mg is 1.11g per 30ml. If your nic is PG based that's only 0.93g per 30ml.

it really helps to use a calculator like e-liquid-recipes.com which is free or alltheflavors.com if you feel like buying a considerably cheap subscription. otherwise there are also a few desktop based calculators in the sidebar.

with online calculators / recipe books you seem to get what you pay for. ATF offers creative commons licensing, ELR offers.... a quick and free place to store your own recipes and that's about it.

my process, which i assume is the same stuff everyone else does, to measure is to

  1. tare bottle weight
  2. weigh out one flavor
  3. tare again
  4. weigh out second flavor
  5. tare again, repeat until all flavor is added
  6. add PG if needed, tare.
  7. add VG, tare
  8. add nicotine, tare
  9. shake until your arm hurts and let it sit for 7-14 days.

you can then check to see if your total weight is on point with the calculator by placing an empty bottle on the scale, tare-ing the weight of it and then placing your completed mix on the scale. never had two bottles weigh the same, though. usually they're within .1g of eachother.

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by Trees4twentyover 8 years ago

May sound silly but have I been entering my nicotine percentage wrong? I do 3% nic. So in the calculator I put 3% but I notice on a bottle of juice at the store it says 0.3%. I'm second guessing myself.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Depends what it is a percentage of.

3% of pure nic is 30 mg/ml.

3% of 100 mg/ml nic (10% dilution) is 3 mg/ml, or 0.3% of pure nic.

Confusing? I'd advice against using percentages for nic, use mg/ml if the calculator supports it, which it should.

2 points
 
by Trees4twentyover 8 years ago

I gotcha. They are just telling how much nicotine is in the bottle. So I'm putting it in the calculator right at 3%. I just over thought it and confused myself.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

If you're using 100 mg/ml nic it works. Should you mix with 72 or 48 mg/ml for whatever reason, it won't work.

2 points
 
by seratneover 8 years ago

Anyone else get a salty taste from sweetener?

I first noticed it with the DOD Stachio RY4U. Also, had to pick up a bottle of retail juice this week. The saltiness is not prominent in an RDA, but I've tried both in a couple different RTAs, and I'm getting a salty flavor from them.

Doesn't happen with any of my diy stuff which i dont put sweetener in, or even most other vendors of retail (Adirondack, Whit E, etc).

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by carbondnbover 8 years ago

Hi all I'm getting set up to make my first mixes. I'm still somewhat unsure about the ammounts I should use. My guess was to put the recipe here and have some of the more experienced members drop some advice.

The flavours in my starter kit (I prefer fruit-based flavours):

  • Vanilla Swirl - TFA

  • Banana Cream - TFA

  • Banana - TFA

  • Pear - TFA

  • Kiwi Double - TFA

  • Strawberry Ripe - TFA

I bought a 30/70 PG/VG base mix (street art series by cloud vapor) and a nicotine booster.

The recipe I was thinking of is based off of some recipes I found online, combined with my personal preference:

  • 5% Banana Cream - TFA

  • 2% Banana - TFA

  • 7% Strawberry Ripe - TFA

  • 1% Vanilla Swirl - TFA

The total would break down to 15% flavouring, with a 7/7 split of banana and strawberry, though banana has more emphasis on the creamy flavours in this recipe.

I was told that adding Pear in low doses (0.5% maybe?) can help boost certain fruity tones. Anyone have experience with pear in a banana/strawberry mix? Not sure if it would fit in.

Also, any suggestions on improving the recipe, based on the flavours I have at my disposal? Thanks in advance!

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/tfa_recipes?v=6bd02d38-3593-11e4-9020-12313d147591

check out the "Updated Percentages List" near the bottom, it gives you a good starting point for single flavor recipes. you might also see something interesting you might like to try.

the recipe looks pretty good to me. If you've got plenty of flavoring it's worth giving it a try and seeing if you like it. you may end up toning it down a bit, like..

  • 3.5% banana cream

  • .5-1% banana (or none at all)

  • 2% strawberry ripe

  • 1% vanilla swirl

  • .25-.5% pear

I'd steep for 7ish days to let the vanilla play with the other bits.

note: i haven't tried this so theres a pretty huge possibility i'd be wrong.

I don't know if the pear would effect the banana very much but it should do something nice to the strawberry. The best, or one of the best, part(s) of mixing your own juice is you get to play around with the flavors and see how stuff works out for you.

2 points
 
by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

Have you tried mixing it up yet? That seems like a lot of flavoring but not necessarily too much. Try it before you make any changes.

2 points
 
by carbondnbover 8 years ago

I haven't tried it yet. Waiting until tonight to mix it up so I have a chance to get some advice in first. I could lower the total % of flavouring. That's a good tip. thank you :)

5 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Try leaving out the banana and taking Ripe down to 5

2 points
 
by Phallicitousover 8 years ago

How do you guys go about trying out all your new recipes and flavors? Drip tank and just change out the cotton all the time? I've only got a wismec theorem tank, that has a gigantic wad of cotton to fill up, and a basic dual coil RDA my coworker gave me that hits me like a truck. Should I rebuild the RDA to lighten it up or maybe pick up a different atomizer?

Edit: I'm such an idiot. I forgot the actual mixing part of my question because I got distracted by my side question.

I got ten flavor concentrates and all the vg and pg I need. I would like to taste each one individually, so my guess is to mix like 7% batches of each one with no nicotine. Then I can move on to the above question and deal with that hurdle.

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by reticentDevilover 8 years ago

In answer to your first question.... I'm no expert at this DIY thing since I've only been at it for about 3 months. But I've been using 510 Bridgeless Atomizers to test flavors. Not perfect, but you can change flavors just by wiping it out with a q-tip.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Depends on the flavors. For some, 7% would be a good tester. For others, it would be horrible overkill and taste nasty despite being a good flavor at a much lower %age. For a very few, it might be too light.

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

TFA Papaya 7%

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'd vape that, if I had an atty I was about to throw away as soon as it was all gone.

By the way, I got your Fuzzy Strap-On ready last night. I'll try it out tonight or tomorrow. Something tells me it's going to be a nice fit.

2 points
 
by kryptohavocover 8 years ago

Im looking for a strong orange flavor. I have tried many but they taste to weak or dont stand out enough

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

FW Blood Orange is the best orange flavor I've tried. If it's too weak you could boost it with a bit of FA Orange, but don't overdo it or you will get burnt zest. Personally I prefer to add a bit of strawberry, it doesn't make it stronger, but it complements the orange to make a richer flavor.

1 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

FA orange mixed with FA mandarin at a 3:1 ratio gives a nice rounded orange flavor.

2 points
 
by mercifulzover 8 years ago

Hey guys, found a simple chai tea latte recipe and tried to tweak it. The original was TPA VBIC - 7% and CAP Chai Tea - 7%. I added on FLV Vanilla Custard - 4% and FA Meringue-1%

I am leaving it to steep for 2 weeks or so before trying it due to the types of flavorings in there that need long steep. My question is, did I go overboard? I am now feeling like the original recipe itself was way too high in flavoring amounts and what I did is overkill. Only time will tell at this point but how does the recipe look like to you seasoned veterans? Thanks!

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

The VBIC is probably unnecessary to use at all in this recipe. The Chai Tea is also high. I don't think I went over 3% when I made something along the same lines

1 points
 
by mercifulzover 8 years ago

Yeah the VBIC and chai tea were from the original recipe. I realized after I made a 60ml bottle that it was at 7% and concluded that I fucked up. It smells really good though. Tried tasting it and it tastes a little spicy due to the chai tea. Very curious to see how it'll develop. I would like it to be at least vapeable but I feel like the chai tea is going to overpower and destroy everything

2 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Should I order Bavarian Cream to add a milky sweetness to a recipe to make a berry crunch cereal? I am familiar with VBIC and know how to use that well, just wondering If there is any advantage with Bav Cream. Thanks

1 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

You should also consider TFA Vanilla bean gelato with FA cream fresh as a milk base (credit to Fizzmustard's Mustard milk diketone free recipe). Be careful using cream fresh though, more than 1-2% and you will get into 'toe cheese' territory.

1 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Looking for a decent single Cream flavor. Vanilla bean gelato sounds interesting but why does Cream fresh need to be added?

1 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

To me it seems to complete the 'milk' by adding mouthfeel and creamy flavor nuances.

2 points
 
by arabidsquirrelover 8 years ago

What are some other brands of VG that you all use?

I just cannot vape this VG from Bulk Apothecary no matter how much PG I put in it. It's dry as a bone and makes my mouth the same. I stopped smoking my own juice for about 2 weeks and went back to the Vapor Chef. That juice doesn't do what my DIY juice does to my mouth. It has to be the VG.

Thanks, bout to give up and go permanently back to buying juice.

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

DIY is an investment in yourself, not something you're doing for this sub or the community. Put some effort into troubleshooting it. Vape the VG as is. Is it bad? Try another brand or add some distilled water to it. Could it be the source? Palm, soy, coconut etc, try another source. If you've only tried one batch, it could be a bad batch.

Perhaps you have a sensitivity to PG? Is the nic okay? Maybe you need to try entirely different flavor profiles? Perhaps add some sweetener or something like INW Cactus to freshen things up. There's a ton of things that can affect the quality of your experience. Don't get discouraged by failures, learn from them. Again, this is something you do for yourself, not anyone else.

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You shouldn't be smoking the juice. That's probably your problem. In all seriousness though, I doubt it's the VG. You should try to narrow down the source of your issue. Go to a pharmacy or Wal Mart and pick up some USP VG to test out. Maybe you got a bad batch of it from Essential Depot. But that's what I, and many of us use.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

I make juice for myself and for my wife. We both vape 3mg. I have a few friends that would like to try some of my juices, but I'm not going to order any more concentrates just to give them some free juice. Some vape a 6 and one vapes a 12. My mixes are all sitting in glass bottles aging. If I wanted to give one of them a 6mg, I'm going to have to add .9g to a 30mL vial. What I want to know is if adding nic, 2 weeks after it's been aging at 3mg, will force a need to re-steep? Should I go ahead and add the extra nic to a 30mL vial now or can I just add the nic when he comes over and call it a day? Kinda thinking about giving him a 3 and just saying fuck it. Nicotine isn't cheap.

3 points
 
by Apexifiedover 8 years agoSuckling from the teats of Daenerys Targaryen

Nicotine doesn't need to steep. After you add it make sure you shake it well and it will be fine.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

That small amount shouldn't matter at all for the taste.

2 points
 
by oOflyeyesOoover 8 years ago

Are there any current coupons? I was going to order from TFA, until I started thinking a bit more about shipping, and still needing to order nic.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Any of the permanently active codes in the sidebar work

1 points
 
by oOflyeyesOoover 8 years ago

I have been using the sidebar for all the new information and got a few mock orders set up, but I don't see any coupon codes atm? Am I not seeing something?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Yeah I just looked and they don't appear to be in there. I thought they used to be. Bull City is reddit6 I believe? If you google the vendor and coupon I'm sure it will tell you.

2 points
 
by N3moHoesover 8 years ago

I'm having real trouble with Blackcurrant Inawera, I mix at 3% as Inawera recommended and other recipes I've seen but zero flavour after 2 weeks. Mixed another batch at 6% and I'm just not getting the flavour described by other users. I really need a good strong Blackcurrant to go with Menthol. Any ideas and am I doing something wrong with this flavour.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I'm good at 1%, increasing the amount can sometimes have the opposite effect. But there shouldn't be zero flavor, something is off.

Do you get flavor from other concentrates using the same PG/VG and tank? In that case you probably need another brand, I recommend Molinberry Blackcurrant if you can obtain that.

Do you pick up any scent if you smell the concentrate?

2 points
 
by ChevelloKDover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Am I being too timid with my flavors?

When trying to create, I usually start with 3-5% of two to three flavors. I'm not getting a whole lot of taste out of anything I'm mixing up. I'm not real into mixed with 37 flavors, I can't taste half of what i read in flavor notes most of the time so I feel it's kind of a waste. I'm just coming off the last few days of Apple Buttah, so if that's got my tongue numb to certain flavors it might be it.

Current latest too-light flavor mix is

INW Captain Jack for pipe 3% TFA Black Honey 3% TFA Vanilla Swirl 1% 50/50, 12mg

I'm just getting a hint of the Captain Jack, and not much else. When I tested the black honey it was pure sweet honey flavor at 50/50 and 4%. I wanted to cut some of that and let the Captain guide the ship with a bit of sweet courage behind him to help out (to put it in flavor note language).

Made two 10ml bottles. One I'm just going to vape through and the other is going to sit for a week before I try it again.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Tobaccos require much longer than a week to steep, and are definitely not a SnV

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by ChevelloKDover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Sure, I expect that I'll have to wait for it to fully blend, but I didn't think there would be just almost no flavor from it in the beginning. The Black honey was really flavorful right away when I did a single flavor test with it, and so was the Captain Jack.

Is this just how it works with tobaccos? OK on single as SnV, but mix two together and the flavor goes away until steeped? I expected to be able as time goes on to experience how the flavors flow out and blend together.

2 points
 
by The_Big_Red89over 8 years ago

So I just started diy, like literally just started. Made my first 50ml batch of a Mother's Milk clone I found on 99juices and freshly mixed the strawberry was overpowering. But I shook it and aired it out about every hour for a day and it already tastes way better and has gotten some color. It's already vapeable!! But I was curious about this Moo E-Liquids clone of Vanilla Almond Milk. The original recipe calls for TPA flavors but at the time of ordering I didn't know any better and got TFA instead. I now know that the flavor's company makes a difference in their flavor. As in FA strawberry and TPA strawberry can vary vastly in strength and note. But these flavors are very simple in my recipe. Is their any rule of thumb when trying to sub company's flavor for another? I heard somewhere that TFA flavors are weaker but here is the recipe Dairy milk TPA~ 5% French Vanilla TPA~5% Hazelnut TPA~ 4% Can I just do these percentages with TFA? Should I increase all of them and prepare to dilute if too strong if I do?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

TFA and TPA are the same company. Also, don't breathe your mixes unless there is a flavor in them that contains alcohol and you need it to evaporate off quickly. Juices turning a different color (pink or red) is a sign of the nicotine oxidizing, and is not indicative of a steeped mix.

1 points
 
by The_Big_Red89over 8 years ago

I know you don't want your juice to turn red but I thought a dark amber color was good. Something about the sugars or something. And how can I know if my concentrate has alcohols in it? Will it say it on the bottle or is there an online resource?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

There shouldn't be any sugars in your juice. Sugars burn when vaporized. Unless you are using a flavor that has a color to it, you shouldn't look to the mix changing color as it being ready. There are only a handful that contain ethyl alcohol. Refer to the Data sheets by the manufacturer for the ingredients.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

TPA (The Perfumer's Apprentice) and TFA (The Flavor Apprentice) are the same thing.

3 points
 
by The_Big_Red89over 8 years ago

Oh, well that's great news!! I'm gonna make a batch of this stuff tonight!

1 points
 
by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

Thanks

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Welcome

1 points
 
by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

No I didn't wash the bottles. I will make sure I do in the future. Thanks.

7 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You need to reply to the correct comment. Take a look at this screen shot and notice the red circle around the "reply" button. Replying as a new comment without replying to the person that replied to you, doesn't notify them.

2 points
 
by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

Okay thanks

1 points
 
by Wudzy33over 8 years ago

Good 30seconds to a minute

1 points
 
by Smeggywulffover 8 years ago

Does anyone know of a company that makes rambutan flavoring? All these Asian companies and I can't find a single rambutan flavoring.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Do they taste like grapes or lychee?

1 points
 
by Smeggywulffover 8 years ago

They taste like rambutan.

They're related to lychee but don't taste like them (imo). They have a little bit of a bite like grapes do, but only that acidic sharpness, the flavor has nothing in common.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I don't know of one, you might have to DIY a rambutan flavor by trying some other fruit flavor that has something in common with it and tasting it, then figuring out what other flavors it would take to turn it into a rambutan. The right grape or a good lychee might be a starting place, but your best bet if you were to undertake such a project would IMO be FA Mangosteen.

0 points
 
by fuckniggabitchover 8 years ago

What is the deal with acetyl? Is it something to avoid? What does it do to a flavor?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It makes it good. Nothing to worry about

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

This about sums it up

That name though..

0 points
 
by fuckniggabitchover 8 years ago

That didn't really answer any questions...

6 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

It explains what it does to a flavor, which you asked for, and contains all the keywords you need to do your own research, which is what I'd recommend when it comes to this topic. There's been a huge debate over many years, a simple Google search will give you more opinions than you'd ever care to read. Simply put, there are two camps: Those that consider it way overblown and those that rather be safe than sorry.

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