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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of February 20, 2017
submitted over 8 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

Does anyone remember a cpl days ago when a guy offered to send me a RDA for free ? I can't find who he was. I got a Troll V2, with fused claptons installed, in the mail, I did not buy. I assume he had to send it, and I want to thank him, but his messages he PM me are not there anymore. It's strange. I think he was a vape saint. Wow, there are still good people in the world. He told me to pay it forward as compensation. Really made my day! What a real ass dude!

3 points
 
by kindgroundover 8 years ago

Yeah. People do crazy strange kind stuff like that in the vape community. A lot of us hobbyists have plenty extra. I vape forward a LOT of gear. It just feels better than making a buck off of it.

3 points
 
by IDoLiftBrahover 8 years ago

How much does the brand of flavoring matter when it comes to mixing recipes?

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

It is crucial.

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by IDoLiftBrahover 8 years ago

Shit. Thanks for your reply. I'm starting with single flavors to begin anyway so after I get the hang of that I'll buy some common recipe flavors.

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Stick to TFA, CAP, and FW to begin with.

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by ajsam3over 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

A LOT. Every brand has its own take on whatever they say it is. Two companies can each have a strawberry, but that doesn't mean they taste the same. For example, I hate FLV strawberry, but TFA strawberry is absolutely amazing (as is strawberry ripe).

3 points
 
by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

Just started getting into the DIY world and the idea of steeping is confusing me. Some articles say to submerge in hot water. others advise to leave untouched in a dark place. and others contradict that by saying you should shake daily and open the top every day.....so what is the correct steeping method to get the best from your juice?

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by 3423553453over 8 years ago

I used to think my juice was steeped and there was nothing else worth waiting for until I started mixing in 100ml and hiding 10ml bottles around the house.

The ones that I forgot about between the couch cushions were the best.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Different people will tell you to do different things because that's their personal preference. Ultimately you might want to try different things before deciding what works/tastes best for you. I think you'll find the most common advice is no hot water or anything like that, leave in dark place, shake periodically, and not open the top.

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Cool dark cabinet for a week after shaking it all up by hand.

Also, see this thread.

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by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

awesome! cheers for the link that was exactly what I needed to read

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by doom-cookieover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Thanks for linking that thread! It cleared a lot of things up for me. I've just been keeping my juice in a cool dark place, and shaking it, and not adding sweetener. It's good to read that I've been doing things "properly" for a newbie.

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

I'm planning to order 10 items from capella. Can you please help me decide what items to get. Something that will help me start my DIY, something that can give me a lot of option in mixing flavors. If it is possible, no sweeteners.

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

Instead of just ordering 10 flavors, find recipes you think you'll like, and order the flavors for those recipes. It will help you be more focused in the beginning of your DIY journey.

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by dominicaldazeover 8 years ago

Look on the sidebar - new mixers recipes and flavors. There's a bunch of Cappella flavors there. Also like they said, buy flavors with a recipe in mind, not all willy nilly!

2 points
 
by dogaaover 8 years ago

Any advice for capella choclate fudge brownie. I vaped it with cake batter and it still vapes awful. Also is it good advice to let the CAP CFB breathe to let out the alcohol as it sates in an old thread. The impression i got that this was a big no no due to the volatile compounds in flavours which would escape (granted I read that in regard to speed steeping)

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

It's not a very good flavor, it's just hard to mix with and it doesn't stand that well on its own. I would keep it low, around 3% and back it up with another chocolate, cookie or biscuit, but even then it will have kind of a funky yeasty taste to it.

It shouldn't be necessary to breathe, but it will need a fair amount of steep, around two weeks, to lose some of the more offensive notes. Breathing in general isn't a good idea for the reason you stated, it's only useful if you know what you're doing and why.

2 points
 
by dogaaover 8 years ago

3%and I think I have the inw biscuit lying around, I'll try that . Maybe mix it up with vanilla custard. It really is bad when I tried it and I accidentally ordered double the amount so I need to utilize it and 5 % of it and cake batter is rank even after 2 3 weeks.

Also I just wanted to confirm the breathing thing because of this thread and just wanted to see if it was still the thing to do because the thread was a year old and things change so fast around here.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3a8iv7/cap_chocolate_fudge_brownie_review/

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

It can have its uses, you just need to mould it into something enjoyable, like a chocolate ice cream or a chocolate cake. CAP Cake Batter is another flavor that is notoriously hard to use right, I completely missed that when I replied. The combination of the two could be the biggest problem.

Whether it contains alcohol or not depends on what version you have, there's a V1, a V2 and possibly a RF. You can sometimes rescue bad mixes by breathing or diluting, worth a shot if you were going to throw it away anyway.

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Does anyone know where I can get Lactic acid from a UK vendor.

2 points
 
by drhappycatover 8 years ago

ebay

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

thanks make

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

No idea, but another way about it could be through use of a concentrate that contains high amounts of it, here's a good read: http://juic.org/aroma-volatiles/lactic-acid/

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

I am trying emulate u/spiritofsalts experiment with neutralizing nicotine with lactic acid and making a nicotine salt from r/deeper_diy.

I have had success using TFA Pineapple but I want to now try it with a custard recipe and do not want to add another flavor profile.

According to the post above you do not taste the lactic acid if added in equimolar quantities.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Interesting experiment :) Seems to be available on Amazon, I've never seen a vaping vendor carry it.

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by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

Just finished my 1st ever diy attempt and it actually turned out ok (to my utter amazement! ). got the kit in the post today with 4 concentrates. strawberry milkshake, blueberry muffin, banoffee pie and double cream. mixed up a 5ml batch of banoffee pie to a 30/70 PG/VG ratio and 6mg nicotine. gave it a quick shake and vape test and the nicotine is just right, as is cloud production. However flavour isn't that strong, just a real mild hint of banana. as this is my 1st attempt I'm struggling to decide whether to steep for a week or two, or add a touch more flavouring. any tips?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

What brand of flavoring is it? How much flavor (%) did you use?

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by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

Just the branding I got with my starter kit. vapable (uk based company). used it at 15% flavour

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'm sorry, I know nothing about their house flavors. A steep might bring out the flavor some. Have you tried any of the other concentrates yet?

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by sokutsivdover 8 years ago

Repost
Currently in my cart for my First DIY order:

Vendor | Flavor | Size ---------|----------|---------- TPA | Banana Cream | 30ml TPA | Caramel (Original) | 10ml TPA | Strawberry | 30ml TPA | Vanilla Bean Ice Cream | 30ml

This should make me 2 popular recipes:

  • 375ml of Mustard Milk
  • 500ml of Atmose Chifles

(I am planning to sell these 2 ejuices)

After making these recipes I should be left with 200ml of Base. What flavor (or two) should I add to my cart to make a single flavour recipe for my own ejuice needs?

6 points
 
by BaskinginBlackover 8 years ago

Soo you're just getting into DIY and planning on selling someone else's recipes right off the bat... hmm

2 points
 
by ilikecockover 8 years ago

I am currently vaping a 5% FW Strawberry at 70% VG and 10 mg nic and I'm enjoying it, so your TPA Strawberry should be good for a single flavor recipe. I also mixed a 5% FW Double Apple (same recipe as the strawberry) and it was pretty good. I actually quite enjoy the single flavor recipes, and I'm partial to fruit flavors.

1 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

there are a bunch of great 3 flavor recipes out there I'd look at the GUSH clone Its like 3 flavors and tasty (if your into candy / sweet vapes) also you could grab a banana nut bread with the caramel you have and maybe some AP should be nice

1 points
 
by dominicaldazeover 8 years ago

It would help if you told us what flavors you like or your normal vape juices you bought before.

2 points
 
by dovakeeningover 8 years ago

I just got a strawberry milk tea juice on clearance at my local shop. I love it. I know strong bases on strawberries and cream, like most people I'd imagine, but I don't even know where to start on teas. Help me DIY ejuice, you're my only hope.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Does it really taste like it has tea in it? Because sometimes when you buy milk tea it's really just a fruit milk slushie thing that doesn't even have any tea in it, and there are juices that follow that and call themselves whatever fruit "boba" but don't have any tea flavors.

2 points
 
by dovakeeningover 8 years ago

There's definitely tea on the back notes. It's very creamy with light strawberry on the inhale, but I can taste tea on the exhale.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Black tea or green tea?

2 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

For the recent mixing competitions is there a standard pg/vg brand you must use or is that also based on mixers preference.

Thanks for you time :P

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'd say 70/30 or 60/40. Or you can look at each recipe on ATF and see what ratio the recipe creators used.

2 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

I was Wondering about the brands of pg/vg not the %. Beacuse each brand has a little different flavor.

1 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I use liquid barn. Any place that sells flavoring should have pg and vg. Those will all be fine to use. You can also check out essential depot

1 points
 
by yourewelcome_botover 8 years ago

You're welcome.

2 points
 
by VapeApe88over 8 years ago

Can someone please recommend suppliers for VG, PG, and Nicotine base?

I'm looking for a good balance of quality, price, and shipping speed

5 points
 
by BlazeDemBeatzover 8 years agoMentholatier

PG, VG and Nicotine - nicotineriver.com

flavoring - onestopdiyshop.com , bullcityflavors.com , wizardlabs.com

1 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

It's because of numerous post's saying their nic tastes peppery. Other people on here say it's fine. I didn't want to chance it, so I got a 50ml bottle, of 100mg/ml, Nude Nicotine. Got all the VG, PG, and flavors from WL.

2 points
 
by drhappycatover 8 years ago

For some reason wizard labs isn't recommended much for nicotine. Maybe they're not the best deal in town. I use them regardless because the concentration on the bottle is always the concentration you get. I think it's strange for a vendor to recommend you test the strength they send you.

2 points
 
by drhappycatover 8 years ago

Easy tea flavor to add to LA Lemonade to make a simple unsweetened arnold palmer?

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

FA Black Tea but it's not going to taste quite like unsweetened with LA Lemonade, since that's a pretty sweet lemonade flavor.

2 points
 
by drhappycatover 8 years ago

Thanks!

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Use at less than 2%. Probably start with a small batch at 1.25% and go up or down a quarter to a half percent in your next batch as needed.

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

Someone gave me a good deal with capella flavors. So far here is the list of what i am getting.

Cinnamon Danish Swirl v2 Vanilla Custard v2 Sugar cookie v2 Sweet Strawberry rf Sweet Cream Hot Cocoa New York Cheesecake v2 Double Chocolate v2 ( or chocolate fudge brownie)

Unfortunately, the other 2 that I am planning to get is not available for shipping internationally. Can someone please help me find a good alternative for them?

Bavarian Cream Double Watermelon

By the way, this is a project and the goal is to come up with 8 flavors. I already have some recipes in mind i just need a good replacement for the 2 flavors mentioned above.

Also, please feel free to suggest some changes on the other 8 flavors.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Why the Version 2s?

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

From what I read, v2 is better than the other. But please feel free to enlighten me.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

The V1s taste better. The V2s have things like diacetyl and acetoin removed.

2 points
 
by SnapeOfVapeover 8 years ago

I want to get into DIY and have found some nice recipes on here that I would like to try.

When going through these recipes I found one in the "mega tfa tpa recipe thread" that says '1 Drop per 3ML (Tart & Sour)'

Now I found this http://www.ecigexpress.com/diy-e-liquid/diy-e-liquid-flavors/lorann-flavoring/lorann-oils-1oz/tart-sour-flavor-boost-lorann-oils.html

Which seems to be what the person is referring to? Is this a necessary thing for me to buy? Does anyone know where I can find this in the EU? I'm going to order my stuff from CloudHouseVapor and I can't seem to find this item there so will have to make a separate order from another site just for this one part.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Since that was in the TFA thread, no, that was not the same one they were referring to, but it probably does the same thing. I'm sure you could leave it out, though.

3 points
 
by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

Search for TFA Sour or Flavor West or anyone.

90% of the time it's just referring to Malic Acid which gives you that sour bite.

It's mostly just an additive.

2 points
 
by SnapeOfVapeover 8 years ago

Thanks, I ended up ordering exactly that, TFA Sour after talking the Nathan from CloudHouse.

2 points
 
by LittleBastard1667over 8 years ago

How much of a difference does the base make in the flavor and overall quality of the vape? Consedering is Usp/Ep grade, would it matter from where you get it?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

The PG and VG base? Yes, it matters because it might not have been handled or packaged well, and you might detect a difference between soy- and palm-derived VG.

2 points
 
by LittleBastard1667over 8 years ago

Interesting, which one gives a better vape? If bought from a shop that sells vaping stuff , it should be the good one, right?

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

On the VG, you'll find different people prefer one or the other, or more commonly, people who say palm-derived tastes better or that soy-derived is better because it tastes just as good but costs less. To be honest, I'm happy with my VG and and haven't even bothered to check which one it is. I have bought some that was not as good in the past; but I bought it at a health food store.

What you bought should be great, as long as it was kept airtight (especially important) and away from too much heat and sunlight and isn't super (more than a year) old.

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by chocolatiestcupcakeover 8 years ago

they say palm derived is better but its likely you may not even notice a difference. the shops could have either. just like they may use tobacco derived nicotine or synthetic nicotine. pg can be a little different too i think but not for sure on that

2 points
 
by liquidh20over 8 years ago

Hey guys, i just ordered a kit from LiquidBarn and picked some flavors i think i will like or will work with what i want to make. i really enjoy fruity juices, some of my favorites are TBD liquids-pineapple peach smoothie and Space jam-astro. i could not find any clones of the TBD juice so i made this one up. what else would you guys recommend i make with what i ordered and what do you guys think of my recipe. thanks guys!

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

There aren't many recipes out there using LB flavors. Your best bet is probably to try each of those flavors individually first, take good notes about how they taste, and then decide which ones you want to mix together. Don't know anything at all about LB Pineapple to be able to say anything about your recipe, but if you enjoy it, that's all that really matters, right?

2 points
 
by liquidh20over 8 years ago

Yup in the end it's whatever I end up liking. I'm also making a list of flavors from TFA to buy, what would you recommend from there?

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Strawberry Ripe, Strawberry, Dragonfruit, Vanilla Swirl, Bavarian Cream, Cheesecake Graham Crust (NOT REGULAR CHEESECAKE!! Do not order TFA Cheesecake without Graham Crust and blame that on me), Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, Marshmallow... and maybe Raspberry Sweet, Juicy Peach, Pear, Pineapple, and Banana Cream too, although you can find other raspberry, peach, pear, pineapple, and banana cream flavors that are going to be better for most applications.

However, and this is a big however, you're better off finding recipes that look good to you and buying what you need to make them, trying those recipes, single-flavor testing your flavors, and then tweaking others' recipes to fit your own tastes or building your own recipes, rather than just ordering flavors just because you think the flavors soundgood or someone said they're good.

1 points
 
by yourewelcome_botover 8 years ago

You're welcome.

2 points
 
by darrinsdenover 8 years ago

Why didn't I do this years ago? :)

Ordered a pack through LB, mostly as there is another vaper at work who went that route. Still trying out the flavors before I try other brands. But this was a lot easier than I thought it was going to be. and will save a ton of money in the long run.

After 7 years of vaping, I really have settled in to a set of juices and stayed with them. got way too expensive trying out new flavors.

2 points
 
by Antranikover 8 years ago

Hey guys, I'm still a noob at making juice and vaping so I'd like your help.

  • My current flavor stash inventory looks like this.

  • I used it to make grack juice and kiwi bourbon and peachberry ice.

  • So far, these flavors have been very good, but more like 8/10 for me. I want something that's like 10/10.

  • I noticed I really enjoy anything with koolada. I really enjoyed [Glass Apple](http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/435001/Glass Apple) but i'm out of Ripe Strawberry and only have Sweet strawberry. (I'm really not enjoying this sweet strawberry, I think I got spoiled with the Ripe version.)

What else do you think I could make with what I have that's good?

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5ulrr3/weekly_suggest_a_recipe_for_my_flavors_thread/

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by Antranikover 8 years ago

facepalm, ty

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

:)

2 points
 
by fadedfutureover 8 years ago

I'm interested in mixing my own juices but have no idea where to even start. I'm also new to reddit so if there's a thread out there on it & you just want to link me to it I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!

5 points
 
by MissGilover 8 years ago

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/diy_beginners_guide

Are you using reddit on a mobile device? If you are, get onto a laptop. You'll be able to see the all important side bar which has masses of really amazing information. Everything from first flavour suggestions to flavour reviews. Its a gold mine of info for beginners (like me!)

2 points
 
by fadedfutureover 8 years ago

I am using my iPhone, I'll jump onto a laptop in a few & see what I've been missing. Thanks a lot! I've been told about the sidebar once today already but I had no idea what they meant as the app doesn't show it. I appreciate your help

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by MissGilover 8 years ago

No problem. I'd make yourself a drink, get comfortable and enjoy the reading! I've been DIYing for a month and I'm still absorbing all the info available. Dont forget to make the most of the search bar too. There is loads more info on flavours and common issues hidden away to find.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

What app are you using?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You can also view the sidebar from any mobile browser and any app

2 points
 
by nibor95over 8 years ago

Is it possible to sub the TPA Strawberry with INW Shisha Strawberry (which I can somewhat taste :D!) in the famous Nana Cream recipe? If yes can anyone clue me what % I should sub with?

4 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I'd say yes, they are pretty close in taste. 7% is overboard for TFA Strawberry in my opinion, 2-3% INW should do.

1 points
 
by nibor95over 8 years ago

Thanks!

2 points
 
by dnldcsover 8 years ago

Thinking about starting to DIY my juice. Does VG or PG on their own expire, if so how long do they last?

7 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

The minimum is one year for VG and two years for PG unless mistreated, but in reality they can last for many years if you keep an airtight seal and store at room temperature, out of the sunlight.

2 points
 
by infra_d3adover 8 years ago

Alright so last week I posted about tying to make a White Chocolate Truffle juice. I got some feedback from, /u/wh1skeyk1ng and /u/ID10-T So I've been working on it for the last week, and I think I have something that's getting close, might actually be there. I've not had time to let this steep yet, as this was my latest version.

This is what I have now

White Chocolate - TFA @ 4%

Butter Cream - CAP @ 1.5%

Cream - FLV @ 1%

Dairy/Milk - TFA @ 1%

Sweet Cream - TFA @ 1.5%

Marshmallow - TFA @ 1%

Vanilla Shisha - INW @ 1%

I'm kind of going for the Lindt Truffles, and I find them to be super creamy, a little buttery vanilla and with a kind of cooling milk taste when you break through to the middle.

I was getting way to much of a milk chocolate taste from FW White Chocolate, So I switched to TFA, that was the first change that helped.

Next I really wanted it to be just super creamy, so I tried to build a good heavy cream.

Cap Butter Cream - A very rich, creamy flavor for me. Adds some of that butter I find in the truffles.

FLV Cream - Another heavy cream, with some dairy and I think a little sweetness.

TFA Dairy/Milk - Kind of thicken the mix up, adds a little dairy and some sweetness.

TFA Marshmallow - For sweetness and some body

TFA Sweet Cream - Adds some sweetness and some creamyness, a little milk.

Also needed some vanilla to round it out

INW Vanilla Shisha - A vanilla that blends well with creams, kind of creamy itself.

Unfortunately, I've run out of truffles to test the taste directly with, they go kinda fast. Like I said I've not had time to steep this, but right now to me it tastes really damn close. I'm waiting until it steeps before I change anything, the only thing I can think is maybe just a bit more vanilla, but that may come out a bit more as it steeps.

edit

Going to have to make another one up to steep I think, this one's going to be gone by tomorrow.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I don't know about TFA Dairy/Milk (never tried it), but aside from that, it looks like something that would taste like a Lindt white choco truffle to me. Did you mean to post this in the Monthly Recipe thread?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5rj9jn/february_2017_recipe_thread/

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by infra_d3adover 8 years ago

I'm not sure if I'm ready for that, I mean I guess the only way to find out is to just post it.

Mostly I was posting just to see if anyone would poke some holes in it, maybe something that I could tweak.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I would mix it up if I had Dairy/Milk and actually critique it, but I don't. The only thing I would think about changing just from looking at it is replacing the TFA Sweet Cream with CAP's version which is just better tasting, IMO. I kinda want to do that, and sub FA Cream Fresh for the Dairy/Milk I don't have at the same %, and see that happens, because white chocolate truffle juice sounds pretty tasty to me.

2 points
 
by AVADKTDAover 8 years ago

I'm brand new to reddit and diy so bare with me. Is it just me or does nicotine affect different recipes differently? For instance I have a store bought bottle of strawberry milk @ 3mg of nic. I also made a mix of bronuts @3mg. A recipe I found at alltheflavors.com. The strawberry milk is smooth and the nicotine feel satisfying not overwhelming. In the bronuts it makes me cough and is so strong it hides the flavor. I keep my premix 80/20@3mg in the fridge and thought maybe it wasn't warm enough when I poured it, thus creating a hot spot but shook it up for a while before pouring so idk. Anyway, my long winded question is do flavors affect the way you receive nicotine?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Could be certain flavors and not the nicotine. Did you mix up a batch without the nicotine to try it? Also, higher VG based nicotine needs to come to room temp and then be shaken. A lot.

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by AVADKTDAover 8 years ago

Yea I mixed a nic free batch and it was great. My nic was still a bit cold when I mixed it. I'm gonna try again at room temperature and test my results thanks for the insight

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Creams can cover up a bit of harshness while chocolate, nuts, spices or sharp fruits can make it more pronounced, I've noticed this too without giving it much thought. It's the flavor that is harsh and adding nic to it makes the nic seem stronger than it is. Just like trying to smoke after a coughing fit, still the same strength, you're just more sensitive to it. Using a cream in the other one giving you the opposite effect is why it seems so pronounced.

Or I could just be rambling and you're sensitive to an ingredient in bronuts, try it without nic to verify.

2 points
 
by fackyuuover 8 years ago

Anyone ever vaped Nicquid Soho juice? Described as "A sweet, nutty, carmelized flavor that is complimented by its roasted and creamy taste, which creates a light and smooth tobacco taste."

Is this the same or similar to FA Soho tobacco flavor? I find it odd they sell a tobacco juice with the same name as the FA flavor.

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

probably. that sounds like it

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by Sed8op8over 8 years ago

Hi my diy peeps im a relative newbie here about 5 months mixing now and im starting to get comfortable enough to either heavily adjust other people's recipes or even have a couple of my own now but im running into a problem. I am looking for a sweet custard base.

I love cappellas and it does have a bit of sweet but it almost comes off more savory to me. Even in my mixes and other people's recipes that contain other sweet tasting flavorings if cappella is the base I am still getting that savory custard taste not a sweet one.

Im chasing a custard flavor that's like( Vape Dawgz Dragons Milk ) it's a juice that I have only seen in B&Ms and it is a very sweet buttery milky custard and I have not been able to replicate that with cappellas custard base.

I have TFAs custard and inw custard on the way so im hoping to maybe have some better results but any ideas would be great and thanks guys and gals

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Is the juice sugary lips sweet or like natural sweetness? Try adding sweetener to your custard at like 1-2%. The description of that liquid you posted mentions a hint of strawberry. Look up strawberry custard recipes and see what people are doing.

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by Sed8op8over 8 years ago

Thanks gold no it's not em or sweetener im looking for as it just kind of gives my juice a hint of sweetness at the end but does not alter the custard base I taste. I don't really like what sweetener does to my mixes although it's useful in some to tame or meld certain flavors I guess ... Im really new to this haha but I don't think in accurately conveying my thoughts. I guess in looking for a sweeter custard flavoring. I know capella is the gold standard and I do like it in a lot of things im just getting a bit burnt out on it considering so many of my mixes and recipes use it and it's very distinctive to me.....Arghhhh im sorry I am having a moment it seems lol

1 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I think it could either be two things (or both).

  1. Sweetener or EM, but you just don't realize it.

  2. The flavor description says a hint of strawberry and you're talking about a light sweetness. Could be that they're using TFA Strawberry Ripe to add sweetness, but the strawberry still comes through. I'm thinking 2-4%. Try adding that with your custard.

I only fuck with CAP Vanilla Custard V1 and FLV Custard so I won't be able to comment on other custard flavors. Go to the "Flavor Reviews" in the sidebar and read all the reviews for custard flavors.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

I have a recipe that calls for French Vanilla Deluxe (TPA). I can't seem to find it anywhere but a few sites I don't use. Is this it? It says TDA... http://www.diyvaporsupply.com/french-vanilla-deluxe-tda/

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

That's the one.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

Thank you, sir

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Why would they call it TDA?

Also, fix the weekly new mixer's link in the top bar. It goes to last week's thread.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Beats me, why does ECX call them "Signature?"

Good catch, will fix immediately, thanks.

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Look at the "Buy From" section here.

That leads you here.

2 points
 
by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

Oh crap. Thanks. I don't think about the sidebar when I'm on my phone.

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Those links aren't the sidebar. They're alltheflavors.com and wizardlabs.com respectively.

2 points
 
by 3423553453over 8 years ago

The Dank Apprentice.

2 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

Need my first real RDA for testing mixes. I say real because all I have used is these RDA's my buddy let me borrow to learn to build on. They are all "cloud chaser" RDA's, that are a cpl years old. Spent 200 bucks on diy supplies. Don't have much to spend, and don't want to wait 3 months on fast tech. I'm stuck on what to get. If you had to pick between these what would you buy ? Sapor, Hadaly, Pharaoh, Derringer ? Or is there better for around 40 bucks ? I know nothing about RDA's. I can do a basic build. A easy build deck is a must! I realize that the Hadaly, and Derringer are more than 40. I don't trust reviews on Youtube. Seems like they are trying to sell it to you. That's why I'm asking you guys.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Just get anything with a Velocity-styled build deck. Tobeccos can be found for 10-20 bucks.

1 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

If you just want something for flavor you could get a cheap clone of a nice RDA they can go really cheap (1-5$) or maybe a failed launch like the royal hunter min.

1 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

Can you get one from a site in America ?

1 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

for sure just google rda clone

2 points
 
by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

When coming up with a new recipe idea, how do you guys decide what flavours to combine? and at what percentages? and how many of you have had a crazy idea on combinations, that has turned out to be an awesome vape?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Flavor testing and knowing how they taste, how they react with one another, and what place they have in a recipe.

2 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

I think alot of people decide what they wanna make based on the flavors or smells they like. say you love thin mint cookies you could start trial and error with the flavors that make up a cookie (Mint, chocolate, cookie crust, sweetness) and just taste the cookie and find the flavor notes in the actual food or dink you wanna recreate.

Hope this was helpful happy mixing :)

2 points
 
by Sohdaover 8 years ago

I am just about to start making my own juice. Have everything but nicotine, which I expect to arrive on Friday. I plan on diving right in and experimenting with many different flavors and variations. The only minor problem I see is that I am a tank guy, and a tank guy who uses exclusively premade coils. Unfortunately, this doesn't seem like the best way to be testing juices all day long.

Anyone else like to DiY juice but not build coils? I have a mutation v4 dripper, wire, cotton and all the tools to build coils. I am not a big fan of it as of now, but it seems like the most logical way to go about sampling my creations. Anyone have any words of wisdom? Ideas? How about a good place to buy pre built coils that I can use in my mutation v4?

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by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

I have the same exact situation as you. Order will be here Friday.Except you have a Mutation V4, and I have Mutation, don't know what version. I think it's the first one.It's black with a trident on the drip tip. I'm trying to build on these old ass RDA's, but I get to the second coil, and something always goes wrong.

2 points
 
by Sohdaover 8 years ago

Ya it seems my biggest problems come with installing and wicking. That's why i was thinking of just using one coil instead of 2. Less chance of problems.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Do you know anyone who likes to build coils?

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by Sohdaover 8 years ago

I do not. Which is why I suppose buying some is probably what I need to do. I don't need anything fancy as I don't plan on dripping much, it just really seems like a hassle to do a lot of sampling with tanks. Also, this seems like the perfect time to teach myself how to build better coils as well.

1 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

You don't need a new coil or wick to try out a new juice just drip a few drops vape till dry repeat.

and if it's you just don't wanna commit to the "savage" builds that are out now some simple micro coils will work just fine :)

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by Sohdaover 8 years ago

Thanks for the reply. Sorry maybe I was confusing in my original post, but what you said is what I was getting at. I prefer to use tanks, but for sampling many juices I just don't really see a way around using an RDA. And no I don't need anything special, a simple micro coil will do the trick. It's just for sampling juices and tweaking recipes as i make them.

I started out ready to ask a question, hoping for an alternative, but pretty much worked out the answer as I typed it lol. I'm just going to have to buy and/or make coils for my mutation v4 for this.

2 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

If you have more money then time you could buy a shit ton of E-go tanks and use them on a twist or something

2 points
 
by Nevaliaover 8 years ago

If I add 20% PG flavoring to an 80/20 premix what does that make the VG/PG ratio? Totally confused about all this. That's a 30ml Unicorn by the way.

2 points
 
by Gushluvaover 8 years agoTobacconist

Is the 80/20 mix 30ml?

2 points
 
by Nevaliaover 8 years ago

I have a 500ml pre mix from LB that is 6 nic. I put 20% flavor in the 30ml that is all PG. Wondering what the VG/PG would be. 20% of the 30ml is PG. Then added 80/20 to the remaining 80%.

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Not that hard to figure out. You know that 20% is PG from the flavoring, that leaves 80% of base, of which 20% is PG:

100 * 0.2 + (80 * 0.2) = 20 + 16 = 36% PG, thus a 64/36 VG/PG ratio.

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by ScoopsVnover 8 years ago

Hi. I have been playing mostly with Rayner's food flavourings, but I want to order my first flavours from your really great list and recipe suggestions given in your "first order (flavours)" thread;

Is there a site where u can order most if not all these flavours from one supplier and deliver to Vietnam?

Newest Results:

These are the latest flavors most recommended by fellow DIY-ers for a first order. In general they should be considered some of the tastiest, but also in most cases versatile for mixing beginner recipes. This is the result of a contest post in December 2016.

TFA STRAWBERRY RIPE TFA DRAGON FRUIT TFA BAVARIAN CREAM TFA VANILLA SWIRL TFA STRAWBERRY TFA VANILLA BEAN ICE CREAM CAP VANILLA CUSTARD V TFA CHEESECAKE GRAHAM CRUST TFA MARSHMALLOW FA FUJI FA CREAM FRESH TFA RASPBERRY SWEET CAP SUGAR COOKIE V INW CACTUS LA LEMONADE FA LEMON SICILY CAP SWEET STRAWBERRY FA MERINGUE FA FOREST FRUIT LA WATERMELON (COLORLESS) LA BANANA CREAM CAP CINNAMON DANISH SWIRL CAP NEW YORK CHEESECAKE TFA JUICY PEACH CAP GRAHAM CRACKER TFA PEAR FA WHITE PEACH FA KIWI TFA BANANA CREAM TFA PINEAPPLE CAP GOLDEN PINEAPPLE

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by Gushluvaover 8 years agoTobacconist

I suggest you contact the vendors and ask if they will ship to your country. If not, you can use a forwarding service like myus.com and have them forward it to your country.

2 points
 
by sirfletchalotover 8 years ago

I posted this request in the request a clone thread but have not received an answer so figured I'd try here. I'm in love with a banana custard premium juice by a UK company named grinny heaths. so I guess what I'm asking is what is the best banana custard recipe you have found? I'm looking for something that is very creamy and fluffy

2 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

It's a simple enough profile but it also depends on what type of banana you're looking for. Do you want a candy like banana or a more ripe banana taste? There is TFA banana cream, or Lorann banana cream for the more candy like taste, for example. There is TFA banana ripe and FA banana if you're after a more realistic banana taste.

There are many good pairings to go with a banana custard recipe, such as graham cracker, peanut butter, strawberry and many more. But you can certainly begin with just TFA Banana Cream and CAP Vanilla Custard.

Also, for a fluffy and creamy taste, you could try FA Meringue, FA Cream Fresh, CAP/TFA Sweet Cream, etc. I'm on mobile right now but can look for recipes when I'm on the computer.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'm still missing one ingredient to try it but this one looks really, really good to me:

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/12125#monkey_suite_by_runtdastardly

However, it's gonna be really heavy and rich, here's one that also looks good but would fit your creamy and fluffy bill better:

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/3428#vanilla_wafer_banana_pudding_by_vurve

Or, you might want to make your own that falls somewhere between those two.

Many requests in the clone threads get made month after month and NEVER get answered. The reason there are so few answers in the clone thread is that so few mixers have tried all those juices out there in order to attempt to clone them. I know I haven't bought any juice in almost two years. But asking about a profile rather than cloning a specific juice, like you've done here, always gets some good answers.

2 points
 
by jcmcadams08over 8 years ago

Hey guys! Can anyone recommend a android caculator that has weight capability? What is the most reliable even if I have to purchase it?

2 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

I don't personally use my phone for recipes, but my friend swears by E-Juice Lab on Android.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Use the sites for ELR and ATF. They work much better than any app you'll find.

1 points
 
by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

ATF has an app

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Yes, but he doesn't update it anymore. The site is better

1 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

Vape Tool maybe. Try it out. It's free on Google Play. Even if not for weight calculation, it's my favorite for coil building, juice mixing. It's a awesome tool every mixer, and builder should have. It was the most popular.

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

Question about bottles.

Is there any specific type of plastic or glass bottle that i need to avoid. Thing is, i am planning to mix for my colleagues. The total volume would be around a liter. I am worried that i might ruin the flavor if i just put it in a regular plastic bottle. Glass is also an option but for some reason i am leaning towards plastic.

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

Forgot to mention, I am planning to go with the plastic bottle commonly used in catsup or mustard.

2 points
 
by becklogover 8 years ago

Pleas ignore..found the answer

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

When this happens, just delete your comments. No need to make another post.

1 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

Make sure if you get bottles off Amazon, or Ebay, that they are in the U.S. If not you will have to wait a month.

2 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Big Apple fan. Usually I mix 10% TFA Green Apple with no problems but a bottle I am currently on has kind of a woody/machine oil kind of after taste after the 3 drags on my RDA (never happened before with identical setup). would it be something in the flavouring gone bad? Any suggestions for a simply Apple mix? Thinking of going to CAP double apple.

3 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

Have you tried FA Fuji? It works great as a solo flavor as well.

2 points
 
by xMoose499over 8 years ago

Heard great things about it, but stayed away from it because I heard it is a great multi flavor additive, but never saw anything about it being used on its own. do you use it as a solo flavor? Also heard it is a low percentage mix (3-6% max)

2 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

I would say 3%-3.5% is a good starting range, depends a bit on your setup as well.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4ofvz7/fuji_fa/

Also you can check out other flavor reviews on the subreddit, I'm sure there's a few more for apple ones in there. Perhaps INW Shisha Apple could be your thing, who knows?

If you do get Fuji, here's a pretty solid recipe if you want something more complex as well http://tjek.nu/r/5xhR

2 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

NEED BOTTLES ? I found a really good site for bottles. I don't know what the shipping is like, but the prices are great, and they are in US. I already ordered mine from Wizard Labs because of free shipping. https://www.glassbottleoutlet.com/

2 points
 
by joekkerover 8 years ago

So, I have been mixing for about a month and my creations are a bit harsh and throaty at 70 VG 30 PG. Am I doing something wrong? I have purchased most of my supplies from Nic River.

2 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

It's hard to say without more details. Perhaps your nicotine is oxidized. Perhaps it's the flavors you are using that are harsh. Why not post the recipes that you have been mixing?

Also, you can try mixing unflavored with and without nicotine to see if that is the problem. That's right, one bottle straight up 70/30 and another one with nicotine.

2 points
 
by Lawday864over 8 years ago

Hi all I'm new and looking to getting into diy e juice now i have found a local vape shop that is doing diy e juice so I just got a 200 ml bottle and a 30 ml bottle 2 different flavors I was told that they are both ready to vape so I loaded up my Tfv8 with the T8 coil in it and the juice literally burned my throat very hard so I'm thinking that since the one I tried in the shop tasted very good that since the one's I got were just mixed i must likely need to let them sit a few days am I right or is it that since the sample didn't have any nicotine that could have changed the taste let me know thanks Lawrence Levitt

1 points
 
by DIY405over 8 years ago

What % nicotine do you vape at? and yes it would change the flavor and throat hit and also Yes they don't let there store juice steep cuz they want that moneys and don't care about there customers or repeat business (just in general not EVERY shop)

2 points
 
by BrickTop47over 8 years ago

Anybody have any advice for starting from scratch?

3 points
 
by ece_guyover 8 years ago

That is quite a vague question. Why not start with reading the numerous guides on the sidebar?

But if you want it in a few words, you need nicotine, PG, VG, flavors, some bottles, a way to measure said liquids, maybe some recipes, and some patience.

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5fu9ji/logical_increments_of_diy_gear_alpha/

heres mine :D sorry you had to wait 2 days for an answer. its in the sidebar though if you lose that link

2 points
 
by kindgroundover 8 years ago

I'm only relatively new to mixing and I have a question about batches and which is the best way to approach them.

I have a relative in Florida that I mix for. She vapes one flavor at 1mg 50/50 (nic in PG) and about 120ml +/- in a month. I'd like to be able to send her a bottle of flavoring and a bottle of base with nic (that she can store in the freezer) and let her mix it as she needs it. I could send out 3-4 times a year instead of every 2 months. She vapes a Peppermint candy with a lot of menthol and koolada so to her it's best "fresh".

Is the best way to mix flavor concentrates into one mix and PG/VG/nic into another? I'm sure occasionally she'll want to dispense a bottle with extra flavoring, so I need to consider that.

I know that I can do this similar to a "one shot" with base but is there a better way that is still as simple?

I'll send her marked bottles, "fill to here" with flavor and top off with base.

3 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

That's pretty much the best way to do it. I have a 240mL bottle that I use for flavor testing that contains PG, VG, and nic so that I can put flavors in a bottle at whatever percentage I want then top off with my base. I usually vape 70/30 with 2mg nic. So in my 240mL base, I make it 75/25 with 2.25mg nic just to kind of keep it around my normal ratios when I add the base to the flavors.

You could just send a 30mL one shot and maybe another separate 10mL one shot for when an extra bit of flavor is wanted?

Instead of a "fill to here" line, it might be better to send a smaller syringe or something that you can just say draw up this many mL for this much base or something.

1 points
 
by kindgroundover 8 years ago

Thanks for the tips. I'll probably just "mix" it by generating a recipe for a 480ml batch and mix the flavorings in one container and the base with nic in another. That way I won't have to fuss with upping the quantity I use and just let the calculator do the work. My only concern is having enough flavoring. I only have 30ml bottles of a few and she likes it strong. I'll weigh the size of the batch against the ingredient that I have the least amount of. It will probably be a a 360ml.

I'm just happy to keep her off cigarettes and she loves the juice that I've worked with her to craft. She MTL the shit outta that 1mg like all day long. =D

2 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

So recently I have been playing around with FA Mad fruit and cherry. I ended up a pretty decent cherry filling, very akin to the flavor one gets from those cheap hostess pies at the store. What I am missing is the sugary crust. Any ideas on how to achieve that kind of flavor would really push this recipe into a final version. I am thinking that graham crust is not the correct direction to go here, I want something more bread/pie crust like. Any suggestions would be appreciated.

1 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Perhaps FA Cookie with FA/INW Marzipan?

1 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

Ooo that sounds good! Will give it a shot.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

FA Apple Pie + FA Meringue

2 points
 
by TadnJessover 8 years ago

That sounds good also, will give it a shot.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I'm thinking something like 2% FA Apple Pie + 1% FA Meringue. Possibly a small (0.25 to 0.5%) amount of FA Cookie and/or INW or JF Biscuit, depending on how crispy you want that crust.

2 points
 
by potsatayaover 8 years ago

Mixed my own juice for the first time and made 10ml of Capella Blue Rasperry Cotton Candy flavor on 6%. Mixed it and shaked it for 2 minutes and let it steep one night. Today I smelled it and it smelled like plastic and tasted even worse. Any tips for better mixing?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

That's not a very good stand alone flavor. So you probably won't have much luck with it unless you are using it as an enhancer for other flavors. Give it a week and try it again.

2 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

NEED HELP! I just got my first order. I meant to order a liter of VG, and 500ml of PG. My dumb ass ordered 500ml of more VG. I have all PG based flavors, PG Nude Nic. Can I make something now? Or am I fucked until WL sends me a bottle of PG ? I'll pay whatever to get that shit here fast. Any help would be awesome,

3 points
 
by coop34over 8 years ago

Is there a Tractor Supply store nearby? They have PG by the gallon, ~$22....

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Well you obviously won't be able to achieve your target ratio which I assume is 70/30. But of course you can make juice.

2 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

I don't just want to make it. I want it to be good. I guess I could learn the flavors while I'm waiting on PG. Isn't there a more expensive shipping I could do, to get it here fast ? Wizard Labs got my order here in 5 days. I'm sure I could do something.

2 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Just go with max vg until your pg comes in

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Amazon

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Do you have Amazon Prime? If so, order PG from Essential Depot via Amazon.

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

you dont need PG.

it helps with flavor and speeds up homogenization (as well as wicking). both of which can be remedied with slightly more flavor, time, and shaking (or distilled h20 like 1-2%ish).

remember just add a bit more flavor (like 10-50%). It's hard to guess how much more flavor will be needed. generally the curve is exponential and not linear. So "twice the percentage" may or may not translate to twice as much perceivable flavor.

10-50 is a large range so maybe start with 10-20% more flavor because they all have different concentration levels

1 points
 
by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

I have decided to wait until Wednesday when my PG, and more flavors will arrive.

2 points
 
by athelstaanover 8 years agoTobacconist

Hey

I have some vg nic on the freezer for like 3-4 weeks

I want to put it on some of my juices. Whats the basic procedure? Just take it to room temperature and shake ? how many time do i need to shake it for?

Also, i wonder if i should separate the quanty i'll use and put it back on the frezer.

Thanks a lot!

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Shake until you are tired of doing it. You can separate what you will be using for the recent future into a smaller Amber glass bottle.

2 points
 
by kyb0tover 8 years ago

Can you get hot spots in 100% PG based nicotine? Should I still shake the shit out of my PG nic from the freezer before transferring it to my smaller bottle for everyday use?

3 points
 
by DGi_countryover 8 years ago

Be safe. Shake takes no time.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You should always shake everything all the time. Nic, flavors, finished mixes, etc.

1 points
 
by kyb0tover 8 years ago

Good point, dunno why I asked that question haha...

2 points
 
by DGi_countryover 8 years ago

Alright i have done diy befor but was winging the flavoring. Adding as much flavor to make it stronger. I know know % now.

I have vg, i have a scale, i have nic and know how to dilute it to 3mg per ml, (gonna twek that to 2mg tho) i have 6× 250ml beakers flasks with rubber lid for steeping.

I need to know what flavors to buy for me and the ol lady. im looking for very good recipes for, fruit loop and berry crunch mainly. also would like a vanilla custard (not to worried bout that one). Pls help i cant fail again this is the only way i can afford to keep vaping. Sorry about it being long.

2 points
 
by kyb0tover 8 years ago

There's a list on the side bar for "My First Order" Flavors, a lot of the suggestions there are good.

If you go to ELR or ATF and search recipes with keywords like "Fruit loops", "pebbles", "cereal", or look up specific flavors you can see what recipes they're in.

I'd pick some recipes you think you'll like and order those flavors for starters. You can sort by "Rating" to see the more popular recipes.

2 points
 
by DGi_countryover 8 years ago

Thats just it i have looked up the flavors for each. im looking for experience. What recipe blows out the others for each. Like i said if i fail at this, vaping will end for me. Also im new (kinda) what is the sidebar.

2 points
 
by kyb0tover 8 years ago

Taste is really subjective so I couldn't tell you for sure what you're going to like. Here's to the recipes on ATF sorted by top rated. Any of those on the first couple of pages are liked by a lot of people. I'm fairly new myself so I couldn't make suggestions from experience really, but here are a few recipes I'm about to order the flavors for myself:

Sugar cookies and cream by /u/chrisdvr1

Simply Cannoli by /u/tranceinate

Pebble Cream Bronut by /u/enyawreklaw

All I did was find desert recipes that looks like something I would enjoy and order the flavors I was missing.

The sidebar is the right side of the web page for any subreddit. If you're on mobile you might need need to look for an icon to expand the sidebar or something.

If you let us know what flavor profiles you like and what flavors you have already someone else might be able to make a suggestion for ya!

2 points
 
by poopchutejustinover 8 years ago

So i bought 80/20 premixed nicotine. I was thinking I could measure out the premix, add flavor, shake, and be good. Was I right?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Depends on what nicotine level your base is and what ratio you want. You need to measure flavoring too

1 points
 
by poopchutejustinover 8 years ago

I don't mind the 80/20 vgpg nicotine mix. Once I start adding flavor it will raise the PG a bit, and lower the VG as well. I think that will be ok overall cause I only plan to do single flavors, maybe two flavors.

This is what I bought https://www.liquidbarn.com/products/eliquid-with-nicotine-3mg-ml

1 points
 
by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

you'll also be lowering the nicotine content. I don't know the math offhand, calculators have spoiled me. you'll likely end up around 1.5-2mg when it's all mixed together.

80/20 + 20% flavoring (the max you should generally add) is 60/40... assuming you're not using something like RealFlavors which is VG based. You're generally better off buyig VG, PG and Nicotine separate. like, say, maybe you need a mix that'll work with the abomination that is the Mage GTA (Goddamn bubbles...). 65/35 just isn't thin enough to feed the cotton well and you have no other way to thin it out.

But, overall, yes. That's totally fine - mix shake and go. just really, really not ideal.

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by rlockrem32over 8 years ago

Bout to order more stuff but was looking for something to throw together in the mean time with these flavors was looking for suggestions

Bavarian cream TFA Vanilla bean ice cream TFA Koolada TFA Sweetner TFA Pineapple juicy TFA Orange mandarin TFA DX juicy peach TFA Kiwi double TFA Strawberry ripe TFA Dragonfruit TFA

Have just a tiny bit of strawberry and dragon fruit so they can't be a main flavor was trying to figure out what to pair together with the other fruits and wanted to use the Bavarian and ice cream any suggestions would be great!

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by TimJSavedTheDayover 8 years ago

That's exactly what I would do, I like the sound of the orange with the vanilla bean and bavarian cream backing it up. I made a similar mix with a Flavorah Blood Orange at 4% and the vanilla bean and bavarian at 2% each and it turned out very nice. Not my typical ADV flavor though...

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Are the ones you listed flavors that you already have or ones that you are going to order?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You should be looking for recipes and buying flavors based on that for now.

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by Dritsintover 8 years ago

I've been mixing ejuice by myself for quite a while now. However, i have only ordered premixed PG/VG bases with nicotine. Im concidering ordering 1L of PG and VG (Seperately) with 06mg of nicotine in it. Will the mixing procedure be any different ? do i just have to mix the VG and PG to my desired % (60/40) And then do the math after with the flavours ?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Use a calculator, input your desired values, and mix according to the output it gives you

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by Dritsintover 8 years ago

I know about the calculators, that's not the issue. Let me try this : Im about to order 1L of PG with 06mg of nicotine, and 1L of VG with 06mg of nicotine. If i mix this 60/40 VG/PG, do i continue to just mix this with the flavour i want ? Or are there other stuff i have to take into consideration

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Don't do that. Order your nicotine base in a higher concentration, then order separate PG and VG.

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by Maxxerdover 8 years ago

Hi guys, All new to DIY. I'm interested in flavoring and aroma's. Now I saw a few posts and the wiki about a few things you can extract the flavor off of. But, I would like to know if I can extract any flavor I want, for instance; hazelnut, cinnamon or cake. Will this all be suitable for vaping after extracting and mixing with PG/VG?

And is there one method to extract it all or, would it be better to for instance do cake in one way and hazelnut the other?

Sorry if my questions are vague, I just can't find any answers.

Thanks in advance for the replies :)

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

No. Do not make extractions.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Ok, that does it, enough is enough. We have new mixers wanting to make freaking cake extractions. I removed that link from the sidebar. If one of the mods with seniority wants to put it back and string me up for unilaterally deciding to do that, so be it.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Fucking cake. Wtf

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You are a good person

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

lol

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by Maxxerdover 8 years ago

Not any at all? Because there is a page on the wiki that says how to do some extractions.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Not anymore.

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

so you now know not to.. but I've got to know,

How exactly did you plan on extracting cake?

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by Maxxerdover 8 years ago

Haha, same way as coffee was described in the wiki page. Crumble the sponge cake, mix it with VG/PG, heat it in the jar on the stove in a pan filled with water, let it simmer for about 45 mins. Filter the crumble from the mixture. Let it sit for a week or so. And then enjoy!

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

Ahahaha that's insane. That'd absolute never work.

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by rlockrem32over 8 years ago

I am I have four recipes I've found that are highly reviewed that I'm super excited to make. My first order of flavors was a train wreck just ordered stuff with no recipes in mind that sounded good I'll never use three quarters of the stuff I ordered. So the stuff I listed is just left over and I wanted to use it to make up something while I wait for my next order to arrive. But yeah I did a lot of learning in my first mo th of making juice def sticking to recipes the stuff I threw together on the first few days was horrible I'll never use guava again lol.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5vx4au/weekly_suggest_a_recipe_for_my_flavors_thread/

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Reply to a comment instead of the thread. If you are looking for recipes for those flavors, post to the Suggest A Recipe Thread.

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by geb999over 8 years ago

How do you use milkstones?

I LOVE custards (I'd be fine with 80% of my juices being some variation of a vanilla custard) but as I'm now officially 100% DIY I do mix up some fruit mixes etc. To save time I've decided to mix up and steep some milkstones. The thing is I'm not quite sure how to use them. Say I want to make a bunch of variations of vanilla custard or perhaps a strawberry custard etc. Would a milkstone work here or do I need to create a "custard stone"? Is the idea of a milkstone to mix with a fruit for a fruit and cream sort of juice or does it have other uses? thanks for any input.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

The use of "stone" was an older DIY term for a mixed base that could be added to other flavors. You can add whatever you want to them. But if you want custard it obviously has to involve a custard flavoring.

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

I don't use them. I have some ingredients that I like to use together but which combination and ratio might work best for one mix isn't the best for another. Mixing up "stones" just limits your ability to tweak those recipes to perfection, and mixing ingredients together ahead of time doesn't necessarily cut steeping time much, if at all. They will still need to combine with the PG and VG and whatever other ingredients you need to add.

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by AnAverageGrizzlyover 8 years ago

Hey guys! I'm about to get into mixing, but I'd like a little bit of guidance beforehand. Before placing my first order, I'd like to have a few recipes in mind. So, I was wondering if anyone could recommend a few recipes based on my flavor profile. I enjoy fruity flavors, watermelon, blueberry, and anything tropical/coconuty. I'm not the biggest fan of dessert flavors, but I'll try anything that comes highly recommended. Thanks!

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by ID10-Tover 8 years agoWinner of the 2nd DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Did someone say tropical/coconutty? If You Like Piña Coladas and Mango Colada.

Fruity Watermelon things? Strap-On and /u/apexified's Manly Strap-On which is Strap-On plus 1.5% FLV Mango, as well as Spiny Dragon Strap-On and /u/philosaphucker's Stacks on Deck and /u/exclusivegirl's Grab Apple by the Melons.

And other wonderful tropically fruity goodness recipes: Bare Necessities, Detox, Somnambulist, Guava Lime Candy, Fiestas and Fiascos, Stunner, and Banmanaya.

I'm sorry, I can't recommend any blueberry recipes that aren't also dessert/bakery flavors.

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by AnAverageGrizzlyover 8 years ago

Thanks so much! I honestly wasn't expecting such a thorough reply, but this is awesome! I'm definitely going to check out all of those recipes once I get the chance.

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by dominicaldazeover 8 years ago

Somehow when making my first orders I deleted the bottles I had in my cart... no problem I have some old ones I can wash out. But what would y'all recommend as a cheap place to order just bottles? Doesn't even need to be a vaping site, because that's all I really need. Thanks!

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

I always get my plastic bottles on ebay, super cheap and usually free shipping.

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by dominicaldazeover 8 years ago

Thanks and congrats on the 3rd place finish for the mixing contest! I'm listening to the podcast at this very moment :-)

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

Thank you very much, it was a lot of fun. And by fun I mean stressful and nerve wracking.

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by whoisx3roover 8 years ago

Amazon has glass bottles from glass bottle outlet and ldpe bottles from 510 central. That's where I got mine. And they're quality.

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by dominicaldazeover 8 years ago

Cool yah I just need a bunch of tester bottles and maybe a 120 or two

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

i'd grab double what you think you need.

I order from 510 whenever i get close to running out, this is what I buy, usually in the 50 or 100 pack. they come with caps, lids and a funnel.

might wanna consider getting 10ml bottles for testing purposes. same as above, caps, lids, funnel.

I bought these 5ml bottles from ieasysexy and they had some weird bubble patterns on the inside of the bottles.

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by BaskinginBlackover 8 years ago

Amazon or eBay

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by jcmcadams08over 8 years ago

Can someone help me please!? Or either point me in the right direction. The last thing I posted I was attacked for a sidebar. Im new to reddit and looking for a clone. Who remembers Ruckus Elixirs Gorrila Guts?! I would pay good money for someone to clone this! It's a Creamy Butterscotch with a hint of Banana! Thanks guys!

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by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

Post it here instead: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5rf2z2/monthly_clone_request_thread_february_2017/

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by townsfoeover 8 years ago

When making multiple bottles, can you quickly mix the flavors together in a larger batch and then portion the mixture out? I'm trying to cut down on time from measuring out the same flavor 4-5 times, but I'm concerned that the flavors won't mix well enough to have a homogeneous blend when I part it out.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Yes. This is known as a flavor base. You can do this using ELR and ATF

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by MrBurgundy314over 8 years ago

Sure. You would essentially be making a one shot concentrate. Make sure it's well mixed, stirred, shaken, or steeped before adding to the VG, PG, and nic. Personally, I'd make the concentrate and shake the ever living piss out of it for five minutes and then fill up all the bottles. Works just fine for me!

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

Seemingly simple math question I need help with: I have a bunch of bottles of 3mg pre-mixed base. I also have 100MG nicotine base. I am wanting to mix nic in with the pre-mixed 3mg base to end up with 8mg liquid. I'm terrible at anything math related...

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by ShaneConnerover 8 years ago

Ok I may be wrong here so take this with a grain of salt because I'm still a newb. Haven't even made my fist mix yet but...

It seems like you would just need to add 0.05ml/per 1ml (5mg of nic) of 100mg/ml Nic to your 3mg base. So if you had 30ml of 3mg base, then you would add 1.5ml to that base to make 8mg. If I'm correct..... If I'm not then I'd kind of like to know because that's an important calculation :)

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by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Yeah, you're pretty much correct according to this calculator.

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by ShaneConnerover 8 years ago

Thank you!

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

Excellent! Thank you sir!

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

Yeah, kind of a bad idea to be fumbling around with 100mg nic when I can't even grasp basic arithmetic :)

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by ShaneConnerover 8 years ago

That's what calculators are for :)

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by becklogover 8 years ago

Hi,

I am into cheesecake flavors and I've seen a lot of recipes that I want to try however while doing some research I also saw this thread about CAP flavors that is safe for vaping (https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/36ittn/exhaustive_list_of_capella_flavors_with_zero/).

Is CAP NY Cheesecake safe? I've seen a lot of recipes that require this specific brand and flavor. Now I am confused.

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by Richu_75over 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

As they seem to have a v2 you must assume the v1 contains DA and/or AP (diacetyl and/or acetyl propionyl).

But I really, really like the original.

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by becklogover 8 years ago

Yeah just noticed that the list posted from the thread is not updated. I guess it is better to ask capella themselves.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Diacetyl is delicious

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by coop34over 8 years ago

V1 and V2. Another great thing about BCF is how they make sure this info is available (if it is made available to them).

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

So, uhh... I just got my 100mg nicotine mix from Liquid Nicotine Wholesalers and it's pink. I've read ifs it's been exposed to nitrogen it'll turn this color. Is it still usable?

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Per this post it shouldn't be a big deal.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Does it smell bad?

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by sanchostacheover 8 years ago

Nope. I'm not at home right now but I'll double check. I sniffed it and it didn't smell like anything really

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by MrBurgundy314over 8 years ago

Yeah, as long as it doesn't smell foul it should be fine. I believe you're correct about nitrogen, but I'm not one hundred percent certain.

Edit: don't go taking a big whiff of it. You'll know when you open the bottle if it's got the stank.

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by becklogover 8 years ago

ELI5: True rated Nicotine

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Don't know what you mean by that

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by hukahboiscusnsfriendover 8 years ago

Hello Reddit! First time post on this subforum, and have been busy choosing a multitude of highly praised flavors. I recently compiled a list of recommended flavors. The problem? It's too much money! I am asking for critique on my flavor choices, and recommendations on which are must keeps, and which can be removed. Would be great to hear any advice on some must have flavors I might need to make an exception for. Thanks in advance for any help! The list: FA

Fuji apple, Marzapan, Lime tahiti, fresh cream, maringue.

Jungle Flavors

Yellowcake, straw sweet, honeydew, lemon juicy, biscuit, Bavarian cream

INW

Sparkling wine, dragonfruit

Flavorah

Jackfruit, pink guava(Grapefruit), Soursop/cherimoya/guanabana, cream

TFA

cheesecake gram crust, Dragonfruit, honeysuckle, acetyl pyrazine, pistachio, key lime

CAP

Vanilla bean IC, hibiscus, NY cheesecake

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Did you find recipes for all these flavors or are you choosing them by themselves?

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by hukahboiscusnsfriendover 8 years ago

I have found recipes for most of these non-fruit flavors, and many of the fruit flavors I will combine on their own.

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Just get the ones you have recipes for. And get the same flavor brands that are in the recipe.

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by Smeggywulffover 8 years ago

What do you more experienced DIY-ers suggest for storage of larger volumes? I purchased a few 16 oz glass milk bottles so that I can mix large batches and store them, but they have snap on caps instead of screw on caps and I'm concerned they're not air tight enough. Juice will probably only remain in them for a month max, so at least it won't be too terribly long. They're also being stored in a filing cabinet so light isn't an issue. Is it worth it to get some Boston rounds? Something else I'm overlooking?

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

boston rounds are pretty useful. i put working VG/PG in 120ml ones. I tend to overfill when using them to refill RDAs, though. it comes out pretty quickly.

For sealing the bottles you have, could you put a bit of celophane (maybe a couple sheets overlapped) under the snapon cap to help seal it?

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by Smeggywulffover 8 years ago

Cellophane is way cheaper than buying more bottles. I'm just going to do that then, lol.

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by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

Transferring VG/PG:

So, I just got a quart of PG and I have a gallon of VG coming Tuesday. I probably should have asked this BEFORE ordering, but what are you guys' preferred methods of storing the amount of VG/PG that you're actually using? I have about 5 100mL LDPE bottles with skinny tips that I want to use, but they all have the scent of the previous juices that were in them even after LONG hot-water baths. Would they be ok to use if I were to try to clean them with dish detergent?

Sweeteners:

For juices that taste good, but still need a little flavor boost, would you recommend a bit of EM/Cotton Candy, some sucralose, or neither?

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by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

liquid barn has some awesome 0.5L* squeeze bottles for like a dollar each

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by RamboUnchainedover 8 years ago

You're the man!

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by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

no u :]

they also have a good deal on 1oz glass bottles and shipping (120 for 90$) I got em with a discount on black friday

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by Gushluvaover 8 years agoTobacconist

I tried m.terk's terkish blend, description says "a unique blend of Butterscotch and custard with a hint of vanilla cream"

I have FW Butterscotch Ripple, FLV Butterscotch, CAP Vanilla Whipped Cream, CAP Vanilla Custard.

Out of both Butterscotch flavourings, which one would be suitable for this kind of recipe?

I'm thinking

  • FLV Butterscotch 2%
  • CAP Vanilla Custard 5%
  • CAP Whipped Cream 2%

Any modifications you would make?

Cheers

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by Akaitensiover 8 years ago

Been trying my hand at mixing lately. I was trying to come up with a vanilla coffee flavor and tried various mixes. I made two batches:

1st batch :

5% CAP Vanilla Custard v1 6% SuperVapes Cappuccino ( I know it is weird one)

2nd batch :

3% CAP Vanilla custard v1 8% SuperVapes Cappuccino.

Now to the question. Both of this were mixed in the same kind of bottles, shaken vigorously and steeped for 7 days. The first one turned out an orange-pink color while the second is clear and has no flavor. What did I do wrong with the second one and lost all my flavor?

Edit: Can't format for shit on mobile

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

sounds strange. could you have possibly added the flavoring twice to one and never to the other? is SV Cappuccino a clear flavor?

I've had a mix turn out very pink but it was because i intentionally made it 18mg of nicotine and used TFA berry crunch. maybe you overdid the nicotine?

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by Akaitensiover 8 years ago

I mixed with a pre-mixed 12mg base because nicotine is pretty expensive here. 100% positive I added flavor to both mixes

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by Lulzorrover 8 years ago

Then I don't have a clue. Hope someone else does. Good luck

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Do you have a link for the SV flavor? I can't seem to find that brand.

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by Akaitensiover 8 years ago

Here is a link. Site is in french can't understand a thing. I got them localy

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by cincinnatikingover 8 years ago

My nicotine came in a 50ml bottle. I have heard to keep nic in smaller bottles. Should I take a little out and put it in a 15ml bottle? This might be a dumb question, but I'm new.

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by Nevaliaover 8 years ago

Appreciate it! I'm terrible with math 🙈

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by davidthecazcazover 8 years ago

Nevermind

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You already posted this

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by davidthecazcazover 8 years ago

I know. I got confused about the rules. Sorry.

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by rlockrem32over 8 years ago

Naw those are what I have left over from first order

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

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