Okay D.i.y.-ers the reddit has been a little slow so it seems like a good time to write up my impressions of using pg. The purpose of this article is to inform new mixers. (still figuring out formatting so forgive me)
So I've been mixing since Oct-2016 so fairly new, but I'm a research hound I read EVERYTHING I can get my hands on. So far I've been mixing max V.G. but found my juice has been less intense than I was hoping for, after some research and some Q & A from the fine folks here I decided to try mixing 70/30.
Some basic info. I'm currently mixing with Liquid Barn VG and essential depot pg, 0nic. I use an R.D.A. with a single micro dragon coil (most of the time) and vape around 35w.
Okay soo first impressions I mixed up a normal shake and vape for me its all LB flavors so its not gonna be much help.
- (LB) Blue raspberry 1.5%
- (LB) Pacific cooler 3.0%
- (LB) Rainbow Sherbet 2.5%
The flavor is about the same but I'm tasting a slight almost alcohol taste (from the P.G. tasted it solo) not sure if this is the brand or me just getting use to the new ingredient in my mix. I think after some steep the flavor will pop more.
Cloud production is basically the same and the thinner juice is much better to wick with.
So the plan is to post a part 2 after some steep and write up my thoughts on when or if I taste a difference in flavor or feeling. Thanks for reading and happy mixing.
As far as I know LB flavors are primarily suspended in VG. As such, they require a longer steep than other brands like CAP, TPA, etc that are suspended in PG.
Thanks, I know not many people use LB flavors at all. I normally make the same recipe max vg and the flavor is (so far) about the same and I can't wait to taste at a higher steep time. I do mix with "regular" brands (Tpa,Cap,Inw,FW) as well I just feel the need to use up the LB flavors.
I tried LB and most of their fruity flavors tasted like alcohol a bit. Some of their flavors have an alcohol in them too, so if you steep with the cap off its more likely to evaporate off. I was never a huge fan, but they're totally vapable.
I find there flavors to be close to any of the "major" labels. they don't carry other bands tho or have there brand carried by any other store so if you want to order there flavors you have to buy direct from them and only purchase there flavors in that order and that's the real bummer for me.
- (L.B.) cappuccino is super solid I just love it no undertaste just good.
Sometimes I feel like the only person who prefers 50/50
Do you feel you get the best flavor out of 50/50? or is it a wicking issue or what?
Both. I find the flavors better but definitely having wicking issues with 70/30. Plus, for whatever reason 70/30 blends bother my throat more.
This was actually part of the reason I started mixing in the first place. All of the shops near me only carry 70/30s or higher now.
I would love to get a flavor-packed 50/50 vape for an ADV, but PG and my throat hate one-another. Shurb (70/30) is really the only juice I can vape below an 80/20 as an ADV. And I really think it's just because all of the flavors (27%) and nicotine (3%) make up the PG ratio, so I'm not actually pouring pure PG into any of my mixes. My wife vapes it at a 50/50 and it makes my throat itch. Flavor is noticeably better, though. Her juice is ready to go after a thorough shaking. Mine takes a good 24hr sit to really take hold and hers still tastes better IMO. They're about the same after about 3 days.
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When dripping I prefer max VG but that may be attributed to my set up as much as my distaste for PG. In my Kennedy or Velocity I typically run dual claptons @ around .4 ohms and 60-80 watts. For tanks like the triton or TFV-4 I will run 70/30 but I use distilled water because I no longer enjoy the lung hit or taste that I get from PG.
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Yeah I like to drip best but everyone is saying flavor is much better with a pg blend, is that not your experience ?
PG is a better flavor carrier than VG but i've found that it doesn't mean all that much if you let it steep. maxvg takes longer to mature.
I don't like PG all that much but use it here and there.
All of my flavors are suspended in PG as is my nicotine, in my recipes I will typically add .25 to 1% of a flavor if I am mixing 70/30 with distilled water because the flavor in tanks always seems to be less than when I drip.
If I make juice for an RDA, I don't go below 80/20 ever.... i'll typically go as high as I can "Max VG".
Everything else that's going to be used in a tank, I do 70/30. On rare occasions even as low as 65/35-60/40, depending on how well the specific tank\wicking "drinks".
How long did you experiment with the "standard" 70/30 before you found that you prefer a higher V.G. juice?
Well, once all the crazy RDA's with post holes you could put a wire hanger threw and huge air flow started coming out, and mech mods that wouldn't get a hot switch from super low builds came out..... nice thick VG juice seemed to match perfectly.
Then thinner (higher PG) juice just makes tanks wick better. That's one of the cool things about DIY, you can make a juice VG\PG ratio specific to any atty you have.
I like that, time to make a wire hanger coil. J/K
I feel you VG seem'd like the right choice from a logical standpoint. More vapor less people have reactions to it no need for an extra ingredient in your mix, cheaper.
Not to ruin my part 2 but I am feeling the pg tho.