Compiling a list of concentrates with natural sugars in them

submitted over 8 years ago by abdadaShady's back, tell a friend

Restocked the old lab with what is needed to start testing for lipids and natural sugars in concentrates.

Since it's been a long time for me to being active on here, it seems there are a bunch of new flavors out and even a few new manufacturers.

I'm going to start testing concentrates for lipids and natural sugars and expand my site's warning page more.

If you think a concentrate might have natural sugars in it (i.e., your wick turns black in a day or less), post the flavor here so I can add it to my testing list.

Comments

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by Flanker6or7over 8 years agoMixologist

Nevermind back from the dead after 3 days, try 300! Welcome back!

2 points

by Vapeduddeover 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

great cant wait to see your results.how do you have time with all the shit you do?shit wish i had your drive and $$$$ lol

1 points

by thegillenatorover 8 years ago

DIY noobie here, could you tell me about this guy?

4 points

by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

I'm a total douchebag with a massively overworked ego and also am subscribed to some of reddit's most hated subs here.

1 points

by w1crazymofoover 8 years ago

Story checks out

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

I don't have a lot of money, actually. I retired back in August, though, so I have time to play around more!

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by [deleted]over 8 years ago

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by wh1skeyk1ngover 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

FW Cinnamon Roll. I know it's not on your current list, but it is too ridiculously sweet to not have sugar in it IMO. I would love to hear that it isn't going to give me cancer.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Great flavor. Definitely forgot about it. Will test for sure!

2 points

by Muck777over 8 years ago

Is the gunking caused by NETs down to sugars?

I've had some, and the coil needed cleaning after about 4ml.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Well, in totally naturally grown tobacco, sugars account for 20 wt% which is quite high. Depending on the extraction process, it's feasible that sugar is also extracted, but I've never tested a NET for it.

I believe in the US and UK, tobacco vendors can add an additional 15 wt% to tobacco as a flavoring, but I'm not sure how exact this is.

It's hard to test for sugars in NETs I think because I can't test for sucrose itself, only reduction sugars like fructose, glucose, etc. Sucrose is non-reducing, so it doesn't show up in the test. Sucrose is the most common sugar added to tobaccos.

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

but sucrose isn't harmful right? Or is it?

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

It's still a sugar. Sucralose (Splenda) is different than sucrose.

2 points

by newphreakover 8 years ago

I'm kind of curious what's in INW Milk Chocolate, I think that one is worst for the cotton, not the coils. After a short while it looks like a horror show.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Chocolate in general is a shit show for wicking.

Not sure what is in INW but I'll make sure to track some down to test it.

I do know that TFA adds actual caramel color to some of their chocolates. TFA also adds fucking lipids to other chocolate flavors, too, which is a real nightmare. Some of those flavors also have sugar in them, ugh.

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by Ephelusover 8 years agoFrugivore

Abdada is actually back! Sub feels more like home again.

Anyways, if you could check out LA Lemonade and FW Butterscotch Ripple, that would be appreciated. I use both of those a lot, but they sketch me out. LA Lemonade seems way too sweet to be completely natural, and Butterscotch Ripple... I mean. It's delicious, but it's FW.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

added both to the list, thanks!

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by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

This one's a bit obscure but I think I've heard that FW Yellow Cake has Fructose in it.

Also do you have INW Waffle (yc), because it was discontinued for diketones...... by INW ....like they care about diketones. If you've got the equipment to look into anything about a concentrate, that would be one to look into I would say. Although it's not really able to be sold, just for the sake of information.

2 points

by simpleone234over 8 years agoMixologist

FW Yellow Cake has 20-30% fructose in it.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Lol. I miss yellow cake.

5 points

by BlueDotVaporsover 8 years ago

CAP Yellow Cake is better then FW. Try it.

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by styx66over 8 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Or you could let us know which of your juices contain this ingredient, and we shall try those!

;)

1 points

by Tamachickenover 8 years agoMixologist

Don't tell me what to do.

orders

1 points

by OG_Cottonover 8 years ago

Jf Yellow cake is pretty good

1 points

by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Been meaning to snag some!

1 points

by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

Would you put a link to the existing list for reference?

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Already have the old early list just google my username plus concerning flavors

2 points

by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

OK thanks

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by cpmerrillover 8 years ago

SEO? I see you 😏

1 points

by sensfan5555over 8 years ago

Just checked out your article...basically avoid FW? :o

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Nah FW has a lot of winners, too.

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

How about TFA Pralines and Cream?

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Never heard of anyone concerned with that one and the disclosures don't list any natural sweeteners in it.

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by PerennialPhilosopherover 8 years ago

Good enough for me. I had a pretty gunkifying recipe using that as the main flavor so I was curious

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

Interesting! Can you share the recipe? I'll add it to the list just in case but I'm curious.

1 points

by kindgroundover 8 years ago

It's gotta be the CAP Sugar Cookie that's causing the gunk with this recipe. Every recipe I use it in gets quite a bit gunky.

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by daathover 8 years agoMixologist

Keep up the awesome work! And keep us updated! I love it /u/abdada - I will update ELR's warning list with full credit to you of course!

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by marf_lefoggover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Sorry, I've been out of this for a year. Where is the ELR warning list?

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by daathover 8 years agoMixologist

Here: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavors/warnlist

The warnings show up in recipes as well :) The list is a bit primitive, since it just contains all types of warnings, but you can see the details when you go to the flavor details...

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by mlNikonover 8 years ago

Might want to test all of the wonder flavours line.

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by abdadaover 8 years agoShady's back, tell a friend

I have a few already to test!

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by marf_lefoggover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I was all into making my juice a year ago and took a break. What are the new things to stay away from? I just recently got a new type of sweetner from Nude Nic. Are there other things I should watch out for?

1 points

by T_Maceover 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

FLV Red Burley (Hoping it comes back negative cuz I love this stuff)

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by jeepsterjkover 8 years agoMixologist

Dr. Pepper Type Flavor (FW) - pretty sure this gunked my coils super quick in a soda mix i did recently. As a side note, its a pretty terrible flavor for Dr. Pepper recipes.

Slightly off topic, but curious if you have info. Is the alcohol in flavoring concentrates something to be concerned about? Is there enough in there that it'd produce a side effect (I've heard questionable stories about feeling "buzzed" from them without a thorough steep)? Or, is it fairly negligible in most cases? Last question on this, as far as steeping goes for flavors with alcohol, I'm assuming that should be done with some sort of venting, right?

Welcome back! good to have you around again.

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by YaGottadoWhatYaGottaover 8 years ago

Chocolate Cream - Inawera seems to gunk for me, shame also, decent chocolate flavor.

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by juice_junkieover 8 years ago

How about Real Flavors line?

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by firefoxwhyyounoworkover 8 years agoOne of "The Damned"

TFA Cheesecake Graham crust.

How goes the testing?