Substitution Help

submitted over 8 years ago by SlashaLO

I have a Chocolate Covered Strawberry that I personally love. Got a buddy who is scared of Acetoin and wants me to try to pull out the Caramel Original I used. I am trying to figure out a good Caramel sub. I dug through the reddit and found many conflicting things. Anyone have any suggestions?

Chocolate Covered Strawberry

TPA - Ripe Strawberry 9%
TPA - Bavarian Cream DX 4%
TPA - Clear Double Chocolate 3%
FW - Sweetener 3%
TPA - Caramel (Orig) 2%

I am thinking of replacing TPA Caramel with either FA Caramel or possibly WF Caramel Butter. Any suggestions to get that great caramel taste with the mouthfeel that comes with the original?

Comments

3 points

by SlashaLOover 8 years ago

If I posted in the wrong section, I apologize. I can move the thread if asked.

3 points

by Paleone123over 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I'd say ignore the bot in this case.

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by prettymatthewover 8 years agoTobacconist

Just use the DX Caramel. I swapped it into production recipes when they released it with very little reworking.

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by SlashaLOover 8 years ago

I had this thought also. I didn't know if I needed to drop the % much or not. I've heard they take a little longer to steep, but that's not a big deal.

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by prettymatthewover 8 years agoTobacconist

Try it at the same %. One recipe needed to drop 1%, one needed to go up a bit, the other 2 stayed the same. Negligible impact on cure time. [sorry, I'm pedantic about not using 'steep' in reference to e-liquids, unless you're actually steeping something in alcohol or pg.]

2 points

by DIY405over 8 years ago

Feel free to use whatever words you want but, the Food (flavor) is steeping the the liquid (pg/vg mix) to extract the flavors. STEEP 1.soak (food or tea) in water or other liquid so as to extract its flavor or to soften it. The only reason i posted is because you want to be so "Pedantic" Also Cure means to preserve food stuffs, not to age for flavor.

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by VaporAlchemistover 8 years ago

I use FA Caramel. On it's own merit, it is a very good Caramel. It is a very convincing caramel, with medium darkness, zero bitterness, and is on the sweet side. Sadly, it has no butter or cream elements in it, so it is more like a hard caramel, or a fat free caramel sauce. Surely, not the soft gooie milky caramel sauce or chewy caramels. That being said, it's a staple in my flavor cabinet.

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by chewymidgetover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I would honestly throw that stuff out and wouldn't use it.

Caramel Original Ingredients: Natural & Artificial Flavor, Propylene Glycol, Water, Corn Syrup, Caramel Color

Acetoin is the least of the worry in that flavor.

2 points

by noodles1972over 8 years ago

I only use my caramel original in my coffee now, just to use it up.

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by SlashaLOover 8 years ago

I could see that. That doesn't bother me personally, but I can see why others could be.

1 points

by chewymidgetover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Well if not for the health reasons that stuff will gunk up your coils really fast, too. Just something to keep in mind.

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by SlashaLOover 8 years ago

Oh ya. That's for sure. My p.u.c kilos my coils in a couple days haha

1 points

by chocolatiestcupcakeover 8 years ago

ya i think that flavor is really geared towards food than for vaping. you dont want to vape corn syrup or the caramel color probably

1 points

by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

Caramel (Original) is meant for Food Caramel (Clear) is the version meant for Vaping

1 points

by mlNikonover 8 years ago

wf caramel butter is really good but I don't know if it has acetoin in it or not.

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