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If someone is allergic to chocolate could they still vape a chocolate juice?
submitted over 8 years ago by MyDingoAteYourBaby

Sorry if this seems like a stupid question but my gf is allergic to caffeine. So she can't eat chocolate. Does this also translate into juices too?

Edit: I should clarify that I'm not actually mixing the juice so I wouldn't know which extract is in it. I posted here because I felt like this is where people with the most knowledge of e-liquid composition would be.

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by shrine399over 8 years agoMixologist

A better question would be, what exactly is in the chocolate that she is allergic to, and is that ingredient in the flavor extracts used to make the juice. If you know what she is allergic to, contact the manufacturer of the extract/concentrate in question and ask them.

Answer is most likely that it's fine because most concentrates are artificial; but on the off chance it has some natural cacao extract in it, do you really want to take that chance?

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by ZorroEliteover 8 years ago

This! Chocolate is, in and of itself, a combination of many other ingredients. And while artificial flavourings sometimes overlap and sometimes don't... pretty much the last thing I'd want to see is someone with an allergy bring a bunch of potential allergen straight down their windpipe and into their lungs without having a high degree of certainty.

Given, the amount this person would take in is extremely small... I certainly wouldn't want to take the chance. If you can't get to certainty by understanding the ingredients... I'd at least do a simple skin-reaction test with the flavour concentrate before vaping it. (And yes, I'd use the concentrate and not the mixed juice.

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by jerlasvegasover 8 years ago

You would have to be careful with the skin test depending on the nicotine content though.

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by MyDingoAteYourBabyover 8 years ago

It's the caffeine specifically. I'm not a mixer myself but figured the people here would know the most about what goes into an e-liquid so they would know better. I will email the juice company and ask them if they have any insight. Thank you.

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by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

No. It's fine. Caffeine is not a flavor of chocolate, but instead a natural byproduct. None of the chocolate flavors I've encountered contain anything from cocoa beans, and adding caffeine would be very inefficient, not to mention outright stupid.

Even if they were naturally derived, the amount of caffeine both in the liquid and able to be vaporized would be extremely low, mostly due to degradation by heat. She would ingest(not even metabolize, and that's a different rabbit hole)less caffeine from vaping an entire bottle of juice naturally derived from chocolate than she would from a teaspoon of hot cocoa.

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by MyDingoAteYourBabyover 8 years ago

Thank you for the reply! I appreciate it very much.

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by ECX_FlavorLabover 8 years agoMixologist

Research Research Research on whatever chocolate concentrates you are using. Someone's life could be at stake. It's not worth the risk.

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by Maddoktor2over 8 years ago

Generally speaking, juices don't contain caffeine. Some specialty juices do, but those are relatively rare and are specifically marketed as and promoted for having a caffeine additive in them.

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by ChatterBrainedover 8 years ago

And the caffeine needs to be digested in order to be effective.

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by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Not when speaking of allergies, like the OP

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by memnochlvover 8 years agoWTF is a "Terpene?"

I thought you could only really be "allergic" (IE to go into anaphylaxis when you come into contact with it) to the proteins. Hence why people with peanut allergies can still use clarified (most) peanut oils, just not cold presses. Otherwise it's a sensitivity, like wearing fake gold and using your tummy or giving you a headache.

Depending on which of these she had, is important. Also, he said caffeine, I'm not aware of any flavorants having caffeine on their own. Does anyone else know?

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by TheAlmightyDover 8 years agoMixologist

I recently had this issue when someone wanted a Peanut butter juice and wanted assurance it wouldn't trigger their allergy. A bit of research showed that Peanut allergies are allergies of Ara H 1, Ara H 2, Ara H 3, Ara H 6, Ara H 8 and Ara H 9. I couldn't find any evidence that any Peanut flavourings contained any of these compounds despite some overly worried resellers covering their ass saying it may trigger an allergy.

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by andybc18over 8 years ago

I am allergic to the fruit group that contains banana, melon, and blueberry.

I created a strong blueberry flavor and it made my throat swell mildly.

I would not recommend mixing with anything even imitating the flavor of something you have an allergy to.

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by punkonjunkover 8 years ago

There is very, very little caffeine in chocolate. If there is any in the tiny amount of extract you'd use to mix with, it would be utterly minuscule. Second hand, even more so.

That said, I'm not a doctor. Send it somewhere for analysis, or do an unscientific patch test, see what happens if you put a tiny drop on her. Or don't, I'm just a guy on the internet.

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by robotbeatrallyover 8 years ago

I seem to recall some people who are allergic to caffeine are also allergic to Theobromine which is also in chocolate... but I'm not totally sure on that one.

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by Whooptidoohover 8 years ago

I don't think so. I am very allergic to kiwi fruit, but have no problem whatsoever with vaping juices with that flavor in it.

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by MyDingoAteYourBabyover 8 years ago

Thank you for he reply

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by Whooptidoohover 8 years ago

No problem

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by CubeXombiover 8 years ago

Same here, also Banana, Apple, Carrot - can Vape all 4.

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by Whooptidoohover 8 years ago

Wait.. you vape.. carrot flavors??? 😳 The 🥕?

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by CubeXombiover 8 years ago

@CVE there were a few vendors with carrot cake. So good..

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