So i've got all of my supplies, waiting on my flavors to come in the mail, I'm going to start working with Fruits and Bakery flavors and I had a few short questions.
I've been reading up on DIY since I started vaping and its always interested me. I decided to make the plunge a short week ago and i've done nearly non-stop research.
I'm just looking for some tips to learn things the hard way, i'm not expecting to make amazing god tier recipies the moment I start but I've started my spreadsheets, and got everything ready to take notes ontop of notes.
My first question is: Is it a smart Idea to start my recipes at 15mL's in 30mL bottles?
My thought is that if my percentages are too high or two low I can dilute or make adjustments to work up to a 30mL bottle, once I think i've gotten it just right.
~~My Second Question: What is the difference between mixing on a scale and mixing without one? Is there really a difference in the way its done or is it purely convince.~~ For any newbs curious watch New Amsterdam Vape's video on mixing with a scale.
My Third Question: Is it better to start with "stronger" or "weaker" flavors. By that I mean CAP Vanilla Custard reccomends a 10-20% mix. Would it be better to use 6-9%'s or is it just preference?
~~My Fourth Question: Should I be mixing at the reccomended flavours when i'm using them in recipies?~~ Hindsight, dumb question, I'll learn the hard way!
My Final Question: Is there any good DIY youtubers? I've been a huge fan of DIYorDie but I can't seem to find many youtubers that match his quality or ability to explain the ins & outs of what they are doing.
Thanks for reading this far and I'd love some input on these questions professional or not.
For anybody curious my Main DIY Spreadsheet and original recipes can be seen below if anybody has any tips or suggestions that would be much appreciated! https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1p-CjbBl_TEtF48cRtkGCO3DZHjlhGv1UqycL6CJ8coI/edit?usp=sharing
Edit: Big thanks to everybody for there advice and support, I really appreciate it and I cant wait to hit the calculator and get mixing!
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I would get 10 ml bottles for testing purposes. You aren't going to want to adjust things to the same mix. It just doesn't work well that way.
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It's less clean-up and you do not need to use syringes when using a scale.
3 and 4. Use recommended percentages at the lowest value first and test them as single flavors. Do not use that same value when plugging them into a recipe. Unless stated otherwise, those numbers are for just that single flavor.
10ml are convinient but not necessary, if he wouldn't add anything to recepie after mixing first, he cen get away with mixing 10ml of juice in 30ml bottles, then when he will want to mix regular juice not testing he already have 30ml bottles.
That beeing said i have bunch of 10 mls as well as few 20 and 30 and lots of 50 and 100ml bottles, but buying them was stretched in time :)
alright, I'm glad to know that those %'s are for single flavor mixes, I was thinking about getting some 10mL's and I think I might go for a handful of them for sampling of single flavors initially and than recipe sampling and what not later on, thanks again.
You might try picking up 15ml/0.5 ounce bottles for samples. It may just be me, but I like that little bit of extra room (it's technically called ullage, the amount a container falls short of being full) for shaking and such. Since it's a sample, you probably don't need to worry about oxidizing your NIC. Depending on how you vape, that 10ml may be gone in less than an hour, LOL.
I also suggest mixing a few highly rated recipes of someone else's before creating your own.
Alot of this tbh... the more the better... you start seeing patterns between flavors over and over again...
after a while you just think of what to combine from seeing the patterns over and over along with the common percentages... then bamm... new flavor with little to no effort...
tbh i dont feel a 10ml is enough for a new flavor... for me a 30ml vaping it all the way thru i can change my mind mid-way or towards the end. ie - i recently had a recipe i was about to just retire it, but the last 10 ml or so of it the next day i started getting a tottally different feel for it and loved it...
at the same time tho i can vape a 30ml in a single day...if 30ml lasts someone 3 days its a diff scenario...
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You really shouldn't mess with recepies when they are mixed, as far as you can make calculations, its easy to fuck things up, and getting really good juice that you will have only 20mls of and not be able to recreate it. As thats said adding lie one drop of coolada to your fruits when you think it misses freshnes and coolness is quite okish
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Its more convinient to mix by weight, you don't want to have single seringe for every flavour do you? Couse you dont want to mix your flavourings, it happend to me and trust me having one drop of Juicy Orange in your Vanila Swirl isnt what you want.
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First You should test your Flavors by themself starting low - look up flavour on ELR,
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...And then when you know your stuff you will know how to put them in a recepie
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I don't really know any other, and will gladly see what people here have to reccomend
Sry for grammar, not a native speaker
Thank you, I've been checking out ELR quite a bit, I'm going to definitely try out my flavors by themselves, my recipes are more or less what I have in my mind I want to reach flavor wise eventually. I appreciate your answers, best wishes!
I'm new to mixing as well, started a few months back. I posted an article in this subreddit that was well received, it has some info I think you may find helpful. Welcome to mixing!
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5omscn/mistakes_i_made_as_a_beginner_mixer/
New Amsterdam Vape has some great content on getting started. I suggest you check out his beginner's guide video
For the % of usage, I would try and find recipes with the same kind of flavor you are trying to achieve with same ingredients. It can help with a starting point, and if somebody has already created something great, why would you want to change it? There are tons of highly rated recipes, especially on ATF, it can help you find a good starting point for your recipe, as somebody recommended starting low and working up is a good method. I always try to spread that sometimes less is more with DIY, as your olfactory receptors can get get fatigued by over flavoring, or just by vaping the same thing over and over again.
If you're looking to create your own mixes, getting a bunch of 10mls for testing can be a huge lifesaver, it definitely cuts down costs on testing out different recipes, and once its perfected or good enough you can just mix it in 30ml's, instead of hate vaping through a full bottle
A scale definitely cuts down on messiness and time.
Also when ordering don't just assume you are going to use a lot of a flavoring and get a 4oz bottle. Most people work their way up from a 10ml, once its gone, they get a 30ml, once that's gone, you probably could go straight to a 4oz bottle, or 60ml because there are definitely flavors that you will want to put in every juice. I have so many 30mls that I'm probably not going to get close to finishing which makes me sad because it's a lot of money I could've used on more flavors.
I'll just chime in on the Youtube-bit since I see no mention of Steamroom, they have some awesome recipes and informative videos.
After making my first batch yesterday, I can say the scale is a life saver. In my opinion, syringes suck for this, and I have no desire to use them any further. The scale made the process pretty easy. I still have a lot to learn, but there are times when you just "know" what will be easier or faster long term.
Recommended percentages have been spot on to me so far. With a few flavors I tried, moving too far past them was bad. Koolada was bitter cold and chalky, some flavors had "off" flavors that come out in higher percentages, taste like bandaids, plastic, etc. even without an off flavor, they would still probably dominate what you're putting them up against.
It never hurts to experiment though. I tried a few flavors and immediately thought "Watermelon would go good with this" or "a drop of koolada would really make this seem like lemonade"
Thanks dude, it kind of clicked in my mind why scales would be easier reading this. I do have syringes on the way in the mail though so I'll probably use those for a little while and see how I feel about them before I go out and buy a scale
I just got started a couple months ago and planned on mixing by volume. Once I got started (mixed 2 bottles of 30 ml) I found it very tedious. I decided to try mixing by weight since I already had a scale. It was so much easier! Just make sure the scale is set to the correct unit as your recipe (grams). I make 10 ml batches for things I'm experimenting with and 30 ml for recipes that others have made already with good reviews.
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