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Can someone explain to me why this could be carcinogenic?
submitted over 8 years ago by aydo5000

I have TFA sour and was about to mix this one up until I read the notes section in this-

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/913

quote from 'docta' - " Flavor Enhancer; pH reducer; acidifier; "sour" taste ; = MALIC ACID; DO NOT EXCEED 0.5% - 1% This is the sour note in old fashioned sour balls candy as well as salt and vinegar crisps.DO NOT USE WITH NICKEL COILS -->CLASS A CARCINOGENS"

I am using nichrome coils so I have retired this flavour/additive until further notice. Can someone please elaborate and further explain this to me?

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by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

A quick googling leads me to believe Malic Acid may corrode Nickel alloy metals

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by aydo5000over 8 years ago

Kudo's thanks man!

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by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

From: https://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3bxox7/the_dangers_of_vaping_with_nickel_ni200/

***nickel carbonate Nickel carbonates are hydrolyzed upon contact with aqueous acids to give solutions containing the ion [Ni(H2O)6]2+, liberating water and carbon dioxide in the process. Calcining (heating to drive off CO2 and water) of these carbonates gives nickel oxide

NiCO3 → NiO + CO2 The nature of the resulting oxide depends on the nature of the precursor. The oxide obtained from the basic carbonate is often most useful for catalysis.

Basic nickel carbonate can be made by treating solutions of nickel sulfate with sodium carbonate, shown here for the basic carbonate:

4 Ni2+ + CO32− + 6 OH− + 4 H2O → Ni4CO3(OH)6(H2O)4 The hydrated carbonate has been prepared by electrolytic oxidation of nickel in the presence of carbon dioxide:[4]

Ni + O + CO2 + 6 H2O → NiCO3(H2O)4

production of nickel carbonate comprising the following steps: a) Preparing a magnesium salt solution; b) Contacting said solution with a stream of gaseous CO2, keeping pH between 4 and 10 and temperature between 0 and 100°C, during up to 5 hours; c) Contacting the mixture of step b) with a nickel sulphate solution, producing a mixture; d) Performing a separation of liquid and solid portions of said mixture; e) Feeding step a) with said liquid portion. This process recycles the reagent used for producing nickel carbonate and yields a final product that is easy to handle and transport.

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by wh1skeyk1ngover 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

You chose a piss poor title for searching purposes, but I can appreciate the discussion here.

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by icarus-_-skyover 8 years ago

Can you elaborate how this title is bad? Seems to be exactly on topic for the question he's asking.

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by wh1skeyk1ngover 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

I suppose I would have included the topic of TFA Sour along with maybe nickel it the title. Would have been super helpful for the search function.

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by Tiptup300over 8 years ago

I wish reddit let moderators/ops change their titles.

Even if only moderators.

I wouldn't blame aydo5000 at all, title seems totally reasonable. It's not like "HELP! Bad." or something.

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by D-Juiceover 8 years ago

Just correcting an unwarranted downvote. Piss poor titles are useless to everyone, including the OP. If you want people to read your thread, tell them what it's about FFS.

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by tylurnt1over 8 years ago

Why can't you use past 1%? I use at 2 or 3% a lot but now I'm second guessing myself

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