Is there a question buried in here that I missed, or were you just wanting to share?

Not trying to be a jerk, just want to make sure that if you have a question, it gets answered.

You'll need to buy nicotine, did you get it from chefsvapour? I can only see .75mg nicotine base and that's way too low to mix with.

I just eat tube-style labels and shove my bottles up my ass to apply. My turd-cutter is dual-purpose, so they come out clean and cut.

So I have no need for this competition, but I'm okay with you running one.

You have my blessing.

Hey, I've had a contest idea for a bit, wanna go to the PMs?

Instead of getting 50 x 10ml bottles I'd get 30ml bottles instead, you can always mix 10ml testers up in 30ml bottles.

For blunt tip needles, you'll need the correct sizes:

18 ga Poly for most all flavorings as well as PG.

12 ga stainless for VG.

19 ga stainless for oddball inawera bottles.

The sizes are different between stainless and poly as odd as that seems.

No. People add Nic, PG, VG, and flavors in every possible order and most can give you a good reason why they do it in that order, but in the end it doesn't matter.

Like /u/ID10-T says, not really, but I chose the order on the All the Flavors mixing page intentionally for this reason: 1) Flavors, 2) nic, 3) PG, then 4) VG causes a high viscosity (free flowing) and turbulent effect between steps 3 and 4, potentially causing more mixing to take place before it gets thick.

In addition, I usually shake at this point (between PG and VG), although you can see mid-formulation shaking isn't always a fantastic idea in my latest video. Give it a watch if you'd like to laugh at my misfortune.

The boylans birch beer is similar to root beer, except it has birch oils in it. I'm not sure where to start in replicating that flavor, but root beer alone isn't going to cut it. I love the stuff so if you figure it out I'd love to know.

I have the same issue. I can never taste Strawberry until I tried INWEA's Shisha Strawberry. Mix at about 3%.

I now don't touch any other Strawberry.

No it won't taste like strawberries. EM should give you a cotton candy flavour at around 5-10ish%, but I hate the stuff so I've never tried mixing it at high percentages. I used to be a non taster or I'd get vapours tongue instantly until I used shisha and sucralose in a mix. I need to thank someone on here for mentioning adding sucralose to help nontasters of strawberry taste it but I can't remember who said it. Sorrys mods I know this isn't a recipe thread but I thought it's related to the conversation.

Ingredient|% :---|---: Dragonfruit (TPA)|0.5 Strawberry (Ripe) (TPA)|4 Strawberry (TPA)|3 Strawberry Shisha (INAWERA)|1 Sweetener (Sucralose) |.25-0.5

EM doesn't taste like Strawberry and Strawberry doesn't taste like EM

I can't taste most strawberry either. And I really don't like the taste or Inawera shisha strawberry (too much hookah flavor for me), I find that substituting/adding between 0.5-1% of INW shisha strawberry will bring out the other strawberries. I think it might be because most other strawberries are too light and lack depth to work in recipes with other flavors, so they disappear in the background. I can taste them with no issue on their own though. So maybe try that, or if you don't mind the shisha flavor, substitute with a higher percentage.

That is pharmaceutical grade. You are fine

Chocolate is tough man. It seems to be extremely subjective. I mean, taste is subjective in general, but people seem to have a really hard time with chocolate. Dark chocolate can be done with FA Cocoa (massive coil gunker). INW has some well respected chocolate flavors, including white. There was a flavor of the week thread here not to long ago covering chocolate, but honestly my recommendation is to buy sample sizes of a few different chocolates at BCF or ECX where they carry lots of different brands and try them. Here's that thread https://m.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5grkwh/chocolate_this_weeks_fotw_is_chocolate/?ref=search_posts

My favourite choc by far is chocolate truffle by baker flavours. It's rich and creamy, mixes well with just about everything I've thrown at it. I've got a Jaffa (Choc Orange) recipe and a chocolate milk that I'm still tweaking, I'll try to finish them within the few weeks and I'll post them up.

Fw white chocolate is the only one that doesn't taste horrid.

u/ENYAWREKLAW posted a white chocolate peppermint bark recipe utilizing this flavor brilliantly.

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/23101#fuck_u_dnt_steal_this_recipe_bitch_by_enyawreklaw

Inw milk chocolate

Inw chocolate cream

HS Austrian chocolate

All three are fantastic and very smooth. I personally prefer HS over Inw for milk chocolate, but both are great. Chocolate cream is a bit bitter to me, light, mildly creamy, hints of butter or maybe cream cheese? I've not used it extensively as of yet.

u/ejuicemakers (atom I don't know your actual user name) Has a very nice chocolate cake recipe here that uses both Inw and HS.

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/997567/Ckemist%20Original:%20Chocolate%20Cake

Also, the user chewy over at elr has one of the best chocolate vapes I've ever tasted here

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/439208/Turkish%20Delight

And if you like coffee, a shameless plug for myself here.

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/25906#operation_midnight_climax_a_smooth_morning_kick_remix_by_synystervapes

The original recipe that inspired mine is from u/daath

If a Butterscotch mocha scares you his original recipe is absolutely brilliant.

FW Milk Chocolate is great. Same goes for FW White Chocolate.

I mix from 36mg, but in Poland, where i live you can't get more, also 1l of VG and 1l of PG is cheap. Also very cruciual don't just go ahead and buy flavours you think you'll like, that will cause you won't be able to mix anything special, best way to start with them is to find 2-3 recepies that you think you'll like and order flavours for them, or look to sidebar to find most used flavours selected by redditers

to expand on what /u/vardenslytha said, look at recipes and maximize your first order. find a profile you think you'll like and click on the link to the flavor and look at recipes that also use that flavor and find other common ingredients. the last thing you want to do when you're just starting it is buying a lot of single purpose flavors. one or two isn't that bad but if you have a recipe you think you'd like that uses several uncommon flavors, save that one for when you have a little bit more experience under your belt.

trust me, there's nothing more disappointing than buying a flavor for one recipe and finding out you don't like it. especially some of the more pricey ones.... looking at you flavorah

I'll go against the others and say that you should get 100mg or 72mg nic (if your country allows that high concentration) in pg. It will last longer and you won't have to add as much. That small time saved will make mixing more enjoyable since it's one of the few things you'll likely to have to use a syringe or pipette for.

You really should not faststeep an ejuice, giving it time is the best way, think of it as wine or beer. You should steep your juices in dark place with room temperature, also if you have kids or pets in house you should be sure they can't reach it. Sometimes you would want the juice to breathe, what this means is that you should take the top cap off for specified time, but almost always recepies that benefit from that it is specified.

The trick is to get into a routine where you're mixing regularly. What I do for example, is mix a big batch once a month, or sometimes twice a month. Some liquids I let steep for at least a month. Meanwhile, the batch that I mixed from 2-4 weeks ago is ready to go.

Quick edit: It's tempting to taste your latest creations and by all means go for it, although I avoid it. But it can be useful as a testing method to see how a juice changes over the steeping process.

I don't know what type of juice you're trying to clone, but there is a good list of tobacco flavors here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5gx0fu/tobacco_my_first_order_flavors_recipes_tips/

The most pipe-like flavor I found that also mixes great with other flavors is INW Gold Ducat. It's a sweet and light tobacco and I could replicated my favorite pipe tobacco (rum + plums) with it easily. It became my ADV for my MTL setups.

You don't want to use drops with nicotine.

Yea drops are inaccurate, you'd need a syringe or scale.

The amount depends on the source nicotine and the volume of the juice. Common strengths are 36, 72 and 100 mg/ml. The stronger the source the less you need to add, and the less you'll dilute the flavor of the juice. Other than that, unless you get poor quality nicotine, it will not affect the flavor that much, only throat hit. Shaking is sufficient for mixing. Check out the sidebar for all the information you'll need on this.

Don't know if this will help you, but heres two reference charts:

100 mg/ml Nicotine

Nic Strength | 15 ml| 30 ml | 60 ml | 120 ml --------|--------------|------|-------|--------- 3 mg | 0.46 g | 0.93 g | 1.86 g | 3.72 g 6 mg | 0.93 g | 1.86 g | 3.72 g | 7.44 g 12 mg | 1.86 g | 3.72 g | 7.44 g | 14.88 g 18 mg | 2.79 g | 5.58 g | 11.16 g | 22.32 g 24 mg | 3.72 g | 7.44 g | 14.88 g | 29.76 g

50 mg/ml Nicotine

Nic Strength | 15 ml | 30 ml | 60 ml | 120 ml --------|--------------|------|-------|--------- 3 mg | 0.93 g | 1.86 g | 3.72 g | 7.44 g 6 mg | 1.86 g | 3.72 g | 7.44 g | 14.88 g 12 mg | 3.72 g | 7.44 g | 14.88 g | 29.76 g 18 mg | 5.58 g | 11.16 g | 22.32 g | 44.64 g 24 mg | 7.44 g | 14.88 g | 29.76 g | 59.52 g

I would say drop the TFA Kentucky Bourbon to 2% and make up the difference with some FA whisky.

It won't taste the same if you use different brands. Have you looked around for any other vendors that have them in stock? Darkstar have all 5 in stock but the smallest bottles are 30ml.

I'm in the same boat as you. I made my very first batches of juice yesterday and mother unicorn milk was one of them. I ordered my flavors from Gremlin DIY. Everything arrived within 3 days of ordering and their website was the easiest to find the flavors I wanted. I also looked at ecigexpress but found their site too cumbersome. I give Gremlin DIY 5 stars for customer service and selection of flavors available. prices are on point too.

Are you new to reddit?

100mg nicotine isn't required. I've been mixing for about 6-7 months now and I always get 36mg strength or less.

On top of your list, I recommend adding cleaning supplies and disposable gloves. A clean environment is crucial, and if you're going to be handling high concentrations of nicotine, you need to protect yourself.

You can check the Verified Vendors list on where to get stuff, but I've only ordered from Ecigexpress and Bull City Flavors (I'm located in California)

talk a walk through the monthly recipe archive. it may see like a lot to take in but what i do is to hide all child comments and just browse the recipes themselves. then when i find something that looks interesting to me i'll read the comments and see who has said what about it.

i highly suggest grabbing this calculator to store the recipes you find that catch your interest in. it's very full featured and makes all the math involved easy. there is a bit of set up, like entering in flavors manually but after that it's a breeze and offers you some very powerful inventory management tools.

after you've got your prospective recipes in there you can use that to easily build a shopping list

where are you located?

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5fu9ji/logical_increments_of_diy_gear_alpha/

that could help. if you arent stateside you'll have to find other vendors. I have a strawberry kiwi recipe in there, but ive never had cloudberry's. To save you a bit of time that recipe of mine is

• 4% flavour art strawberry
• 2% flavour art kiwi
• 50/50 VG/PG

i can answer your first question. 99.5% of the 10ml and 30ml you order will come in plastic bottles with tips that allow you to easily drop the concentrate into your mix like this. the only ones i know of so far that don't come like this are the 60ml and above and flavors from DIY Flavor Shack (which for some reason come in glass and charge you extra for a dripper bottle and even more so for plastic bottles).

Using a scale is far superior to using syringes.

There is no cleanup involved, no chance of cross contamination of your flavors, a lot less waste product (syringes go bad and pipette droppers are generally 1-2 time use only).

/u/ID10-T already nailed all the different mixing websites, so go check those out.

I do most of my mixing in my head, but if I ever want to double check my math, I use All The Flavors.

Yes, it is easier and there is less clean-up involved. You use a calculator to convert your percentages into grams

Yes, that's widely regarded as true, although there are a number of people who still prefer using syringes. You can find out how to measure everything by using an ejuice calculator such as one of these:

Most popular: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/

Simple, easy to use, perfect for beginners: http://dot1ml.com/mixer

Download for offline mixing: http://ejuice.breaktru.com/

Comprehensive download: https://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/threads/new-calculator-to-try.480587/

Premium (& my favorite): https://alltheflavors.com/

1 - Just scale it down linearly, try cutting them all in half and see what happens. Odds are it will taste exactly the same.

2 - Can't help you there, but I hear good things of Flavor West's cereals. Try searching.

Fruits and berries are usually good right away, some may need a day or two for off notes to calm down. A lot of creams need a week to develop fully, but some are much quicker. For more complex flavors such as desserts, tobaccos etc you'll need 2-3 weeks to bring out the finer notes. There's no harm in trying a juice right after mixing, just know that the more complex profiles will change a lot over time.

Note that higher VG and some particular brands require longer steep.

I always try a new mix right after shaking. If any makes it, I'll check it again in a week.

1 hour, 1 day and 1 week. That way I get a sense if it's something I can throw together when I'm low on juice or just in need of variation :)

chefsflavours.co.uk, totallywicked is alright I hear.

Also thechosenfew.eu check out r/ecr_eu and the sidebar for other good vendors and discounts, under DIY

TBH Thats really to few flavours to play with, but a good start. Try Strawberry with a little bit of dragon fruit it makes a veeeery good. Also i've never had m3, so can't help you here.

You could try lkke

2-4% watermelon, 6-8% strawverry ripe maybe, and add 0.2% or 0.5% koolada for the lols

yea i thnk most alarms are set off by vapor. i think some types shoot a laser or other type of beam and if that gets interrupted by smoke or vapor for a moment, then the alarm is triggered.

not all smoke alarms work this way and idk if many home fire alarms incorporate this or not but any time i vape next to the smoke detector on the mantle: that shit gets set off

Vaping in general can set of smoke alarms

I've accidentally set off a smoke detector or 10 in my day.

Smoke alarms are triggered by smoke. You heard it here first.

Both ELR and alltheflavors support this

Also when you enter your concentrates on ELR make sure that they're the most popular version of that concentrate. I know there is probably 15 different TPA Strawberry ripe on ELR because people are allowed to add in any concentrate. And some who are lazy keep making duplicates rather than finding the proper flavor page. So when you enter a duplicate into your stash, you won't have access to the recipes when you click "what can I make". Because that strawberry ripe in your flavor stash could be used for only a hundred recipes as opposed to the proper strawberry ripe listing which is used in 130,000+ recipes.

Picture here for an example of what I mean

https://imgur.com/P1T62AT

you'll want to post that list in the Weekly Suggest a Recipe Thread. But it looks like you can make Mother of Dragons Milk

you can make a snake oil clone

2% pear. 0.5% coconut. 1-3% bavarian cream in 50/50 sorry for the formatting im being a lazysavage

You can make some kickass milks/milkshake with that Bavarian cream, cheesecake graham crust, vanilla swirl and a fruit/berry of your choosing to top it off.

> I have literally 0 recipes for this on ELR...am I fucked?

What exactly do you mean by this? Like when you click "what can I make" nothing shows up?

Watermelon kiwi candy

6% watermelon

3% kiwi double

4% vanilla swirl

Based on notes around here on kiwi double this would be my estimated starting point. I make this with FA kiwi but TPA should work.

I've not gotten this taste. Tasted at 1 day, 3 days, and 5 days. Have not gotten to test further, I left a bottle steeping while I'm in Vegas. Just mixed it up like a week ago and it's my first time trying the juice. It's reminiscent of fruity pebbles but not super spot on (this is all based on 5 days of steeping). Definitely not getting banana notes.

new mix. adding i flavors all willy nilly mid bottle is a recipe for disaster

Just to see if a flavor would work in a mix you can add to it. But doing this you're already pretty sure how it will turn out since you know that flavor well enough through solo testing and/or extensive use. The result may still come as a surprise from time to time, it's just an educated guess.

If it works, perhaps after some fine-tuning, you only have a rough estimate of percentage and outcome after steep, so you need to make a fresh mix and try again for your notes to be accurate. And be sure to take notes every step of the way.

The important point is to know your flavors. Adding a flavoring that you've never used before to a mix with a bunch of other flavorings is pretty pointless. It probably won't work that well and you learn nothing from it.

Make small batches, like 10 ml, and just vape through it after every modification until you know what it did, or toss it and start over if it was bad. If it isn't worth vaping 10 mls of, you're on the wrong track anyway. About halfway through the batch, you should have a pretty clear idea of what change to make for the next iteration.

most mixing is done before you pour anything. that's usually your last step. So usually you'll see a new mix, reworking the recipe to fit your needs

Usually 5-10% ... Sometimes I go up to 15 or 20 but it's not often. Some flavors are just weaker than others so you have to take that into account as well. As you get more comfortable making your own blends you realize it doesn't really matter as long as your final product is what you want it to be. If I could make my juice taste good with 1% flavoring I would but it's mostly impossible. I tend to build a recipe and ignore the total flavor % ... Just make sure what you're doing is balanced, whether that means adding or taking away something. Trial and error is going to be your best teacher, don't focus on these % because you will be limiting yourself. Get a good grasp on the flavors you own and you will get into your own groove of things.

as much or as little as needed

after you post the thread you go back in and the thread options line (# of comments, source, blah blah blah) will have an option for flair. click that and choose flavor review.

this is on pc. i'm not sure how you would go about it from one of the mobile apps

Try any of these links

I'm no tobacco head, but I picked up FLV Kentucky Blend recently based on it's rep for not needing a long steep. 3% seems like the sweet spot, 2-3 day steep.

It scratches my tobacco itch pretty well, but I'd like to hear from the great /u/t_mace for his suggestions for your dad.

As far as using TFA RY4D, search for Rocketpuppy's RY4D recipe. It does need a month or more, but I always have a bottle of it ready.

here is a Tobacco article that may be helpful.

Are you willing to buy other flavors for tobacco. RY4 Double doesn't really taste like tobacco at all, even though it's still a nice flavor. TPA Black Honey would be used best at low percents as a topping in a flavored cigar vape. So if you want "real tobacco taste" then you'll need to buy a few more flavors.

FLV Kentucky is a fantastic tobacco stand alone which imparts real tobacco feel. FLV Red Burley is another great stand alone tobacco with some balls. Of course, both can be mixed. INW Dark For Pipe is great too, add in low percents to get some leafyness. If you need more options let me know, I'm rushing off to work atm.

> Rocketpuppy's RY4D

I think this is the version coop is referring too.. He subbed Bourbon Vanilla for Madagascar but btw Bourbon Vanilla is not an alcohol flavor. I'm in a rush but can link you an article about vanilla later.

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/110767/RocketPuppy%27s%20RY4%20

/u/coop34 thanks for the page!

If your dad is a tobacco head, RY4 Double probably isn't going to do it for him. It's not really a straight up tobacco flavor. It's more like if you dipped the tobacco in vanilla and caramel and just used those. It's still delicious as all hell, though

You just want big clouds? No nic, no flavor? Just get a bottle of vegetable glycerin and vape that.

question, you just quit smoking and you jumped right into mixing eliquids? and Creme De Menthe should help you out giving you that minty creaminess you're looking for. TFA/FW/FLV all are great options.

Have you seen the caramel and lychee Flavor of the Week posts and looked at the Flavor Review Wiki for info on caramel and lychee flavors?

It will be a negligible drop in concentration.

If you use 10% total flavoring, your nic will dilute to only 2.7, so not a big deal to me.

For lesser known flavor brands, always consult the vendor/manufacturer. As for figuring out the percentages, you just need to know how strong they are and how you want them to work in your recipe.

Unheard of afaik, menthol is known to destroy plastics but this would be permanent and shouldn't happen at this low concentration. If you could post a picture before and after, that might shed some light.

Did you increase the wattage by any chance?

ethanol (drinking alcohol) does this in my experience

For a juice called Just Jam, I'm wondering what the purposes of the VBIC and Sweet Cream are in there. I think you need to take those out.

I would for sure remove the creams, jam doesn't have any. Try to think of ingredients you would use in making a real jam. .25-.5% FA Liquid Amber might help the fruit taste a little cooked like it does when you make it into a jam. I would also consider adding just a touch of lemon. Most jams and pie fillings have some lemon in there.

Broad question, but try here first. If you don't see what you are looking for try here or here.

Purilum is pretty new, so you may not find much there, Review it yourself, help us out by posting your results!!

Custards require a longer steep time but I wouldn't say they require a month. Tobaccos definitely might, though. Depending on the flavors you are working with, they should be good to go after 2-3 weeks. I don't know what flavors you have so I can't recommend anything for you yet.

Same boat bro mixed up a bunch of stuff that is now on day 5 of steeping. would love some shake and vape ideas?

You can't shake and vape creams or custards and expect it to taste good.

You could have sent me a PM; my virtual door is always open? But now it's too late. I'm going to let everyone else answer. Guys and dolls, what 8 to 25 recipes do ya'll think I'd make large amounts of that others would probably enjoy?

Keep things clean and you're fine. Germs don't thrive in these liquids, but washing your hands and perhaps taking some extra precautions if you live in a very hot and humid environment won't hurt.

On a side note, if things taste terrible, try simpler recipes with less flavoring, that should help.

I only vape max vg. You sure it's not your recipe? Would you mind posting your recipe up? we can take a look at it.

FLV Mango, 4 to 6% standalone. Perfect mango nectar flavor. For more of that fleshiness, add 1% or less CAP Sweet Mango to it.

Super Concentrates Mango, which you can get from BCF or Vaping Zone, tastes even better IMO, but you have only about two days to vape up whatever you mix because the flavor fades out super fast.

INW Mango is just plain weird and tastes nothing like a mango, TFA Mango tastes too earthy like it has literal dust or dirt in it, CAP Sweet is rottenly oversweet by itself, TFA Philippine is weak had has a hairspray note to it, FA is okay but dry and gets perfumy real easy, JF Mango tastes kinda like an extra concentrated TFA Philippine minus the hairspray but with a very inauthentic candyish aspect to it, and HS Mango tastes good but it's almost like a single-flavor mango smoothie, which doesn't sound like what you're looking for if you want a bold, fresh fruit flavor.

People rave about Hangsen Mango, if you can get it. Otherwise, try Capella Sweet Mango.

Hangsen mango. Otherwise try a combination of cap sweet mango and tfa and/or inw mango. I wouldn't recommend cap sweet mango on its own, it's way too overripe

1.) i don't know about crappy but yes some profiles, especially bakery and custards take time to "meld" together.

2.) belikegrouch's Juicy J's Strapple Mint. 100% shake and vape but give it a week and it's fucking awesome. all of the ingredients are also widely used in a lot of highly ranked recipes so even if you don't have them already, you'll more than likely end up with them anyway.

Steeping can turn good into great but never bad into good. What you will notice over time is that some sharp and offensive notes will diminish, and finer nuances develop in the more complex flavors. Some mixes can seem a bit weird though, neither bad nor good, until it's starting to come together.

Check the monthly threads for recipes, there are always some gems in there.

E-liquid Recipes and All The Flavors

This one.

By and large, it's not going to make a huge difference.

If you are going to mix half liter batches though, I would probably keep it in a glass or PET container.

120ml or less, just mix it into your final bottle, screw the top on, and go set it in your cabinet.

I prefer plastic for ease of use, but glass is best since it prevents finer molecules from seeping through the plastic, the plastic from seeping into the liquid, etc.

Steeping in a dark place at room temperature with an air tight cap is far more important however.

To clarify, UV light does bad things to these liquids. It causes flavorings to lose their flavor, nicotine to turn harsh and PG to form carcinogenic substances to name a few. The irony is that cobalt blue is bad at filtering out UV light, so the B&M was actually correct in that blue bottles are bad, but for the complete opposite reason.

light not getting in is a good thing. i've recently moved to glass bottles for steeping but i'm not sure if it's having a noticeable difference yet. i'm mostly using them for recipes with multi-week/month long steeps.

What's listed on the bottle is fine, the difference would be in the flavorings. There's no telling how they've been produced just by looking at the bottle, you'd need an MSDS from the manufacturer to really say anything for sure.

Edit: Ignore my feeble attempts at understanding what a carbohydrate is, lol.

Why not try ordering from EU stores directly? Even if they say they don't ship to your country, just contact them directly to see if it can be done.

This right here is the recipe for you.

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/18731#minty_down_under_v2_by_rageisalotofwork

This is a good list to start with.

I don't have experience with the flavors you're working with so someone might chime in that it's unique to one you're using but if I want a fruity recipe to be wetter on the exhale I usually use .25-.5% of Inawera Cactus

Its probably dry from all the terpenes in the citrus flavors.

Cactus can work but so could Strawberry flavors.

You could always cut the sweetener and use like twice as much cotton candy in hopes that the EM will smooth out those rough flavors.

I don't know for every flavor but I think so. I've heard of people "testing" flavors by adding a few drops to a glass of water. I'd even say it's safer than vaping them. Someone correct me if I'm wrong here

Have you tasted both Forest Mix and LA Lemonade on their own? That recipe is delicious as soon as I mix it up IMO. Heck, LA Lemonade is good by itself.

Ask /u/EdibleMalfuction about the Backwoods Lemonade.

What did you mix the Cinnamon Danish Swirl with?

That's some comprehensive research. My only suggestion would be to switch over to Nicotine River. WL is going to give you all those 8ml concentrates in little glass vials, and for the same price (or less) you can get 10ml bottles from Nic River which are much better for mixing by weight. Also a gallon of VG will be 13.99 there instead of 26.99. You'll save a bit and get more overall.

I'm about to sound like a shill but you could basically put everything from your spreadsheet in your cart at Nic River and get it all in one package for less ¯\(ツ)/¯

Hi.

like you, I'm brand new to mixing. my first flavors looked very similar to yours. mine was more cream/vanilla/custard heavy as that's my profile.

I'll give you my perspective based on one week of mixing. your list seems really good for a first time list. really good you were able to do it for only $65. my scale alone was $35 or so, also with the free amazon prime shipping. my first flavor order was $75 - some of that cost was for odd one off flavors I need for a Gremlin VC clone recipe.

I purchased nic and pg/vg from liquid barn. I made the mistake of getting a 250 ml bottle of VG. I've already ordered a gallon from Amazon (free shipping).

I'd say DIY is pretty much like vaping in general. as you go along you find yourself picking up more and more stuff.

here's a couple items I found I needed pretty much immediately after my first mix: a couple more syringes. the aforementioned gallon of VG. a second batch of flavors. As I dove deeper into the recipes and actually started mixing I realized my first order didn't include some of the basics for my flavor profile (VBIC for one). I blew through my sample size CAP VC1 in no time. Ordered the 4oz bottle this time around (I LOVE custards). A nail polish storage rack - to be used for my flavors. Once you have those 25 or so 15ml bottles of flavor you'll find what a pain it is to peck and search for the one you need. you'll need some sort of organizing system for them. your stash of flavors is going to grow - quickly. some sort of labeling system for you mixes is going to be needed too. for now I have some standard avery labels but down the road I'm going to get a label printer. even though the juices are just for me, I know my handwritten scribble labels (I've had poor handwriting my entire life) are going to annoy me. do a reddit search for bottle labeling and flavor storage to get an idea of what other people use. I think those 5 tier acrylic nail polish racks will work best for me.

Looks great man. Since you're not ordering any PG, do you want to mix max VG?

Nope, been 20 months or so since I last bought juice, I believe it was Cosmic Fog's Nutz. I made some attempts at cloning it and got close enough to realize I'd never have to pay for it again.

10% off may seem tempting until you realize it's still 100 times more expensive than DIY.

As for waiting a month, you don't HAVE to wait that long. You CAN try everything right after mixing, just keep in mind that things will change over time. In fact, it's pretty good to do this to see what actually happens during a steep, or more importantly, what doesn't happen. Might save you some disappointments in the future if you make a habit out of long steeps.

Not really, but at the same time I've thought about it. I'd like to one day try some of the liquids I used to love to see how they hold up and to see if I could clone them.

If you plan on developing your own recipes, it's highly recommended to single flavor test all your flavors. If you just want to mix other people's recipes then don't worry about flavor testing.

Ever seen one of those cooking shows like Chopped or whatever? Anyway, if a chef is given an ingredient that he or she has never used before, what do they do? They taste it by itself to see how they can fit it into their profiles. They wouldn't just guess what it taste like then randomly integrate it into a dish.

> Couldn't you just research the others' notes on flavors?

Yes you could. However, everyone's palate is different.

I've wondered the same thing. Admittedly I have no real plans on creating any new flavors. At best I may modify existing recipes for my tastes - perhaps I'll change one up enough for it to be considered a new juice.

I don't particularly like fruit vapes but don't mind a juice with a fruit component. I don't see how tasting plain strawberry or plain graham cracker crust by itself helps.

It depends on what your goals are. If you only mix other people's recipes, you don't need it. Even if you occasionally substitute flavors or change things up a bit, it's not really necessary. But if you want to create your own recipes with any hope of success, you need to know what you're doing. Relying on other people's impression of a flavor for creating a new profile isn't really going to work, it's only good for a general idea, the same way sniffing the bottle or putting a few drops in a glass of water is. You have to actually vape it on its own to know what it will be like to vape.

You can add things later. It won't be exactly the same, but strawberry doesn't need a long steep so it's fine.

At what point are you at in mixing? Just the flavors or have you added your p.g./v.g. mix?

That sounds much more complicated than mixing by weight. I just put everything into the bottle I'm going to drop it from, shake, steep, and vape.

You said "and no flavors for simplicity". Well, I would say the biggest advantage of mixing by weight comes from measuring the tiny amount of stuff that needs to be added.

Let's say you need to add 1% of a flavoring into 30 mL of e juice, so 0.30 mL. Measuring out 0.30 exactly with the volumetric method can not only get tedious, but also wasteful. It can get tedious because with some recipes you have 6 or more flavors that are used in small amounts and you'd want to use a small pipette or syringe for every single different flavor. Also measuring out very small amounts volumetrically won't be nearly as accurate as weighing it.

Certainly mixing by volume is still a valid technique, especially if you're, say, mixing a single flavor juice. But in the end, mixing by weight is more accurate, creates less garbage and IMO simply more practical.

Technically, high precision instruments of any type are always going to create a more precise final solution. However, in practice, most people find mixing by weight to be less messy, faster, and easier than other methods. Weight also has the advantage of being impervious to temperature and pressure variations, which is why is used in many commercial settings where bulk storage of components may not be temperature controlled.

Personally I mix my base (80vg, 20pg and 3mg nic) at a litre at a time using measuring cylinders.

I only mix my weight for flavours.

What I do, I get my empty bottle, stick it on the scales, weigh out each flavour into the bottle and then top up the bottle with my premixed base. I find this the most easiest way.

Downside is that the VG/PG ratio is about +/- 5% due to amount of flavours I add.

You still have to transfer the volumetric glass, resulting in a loss of volume, and since a homogeneous mixture isn't possible using the simple methods we use, you're going to lose a disproportionate amount of each flavoring in the volume left behind. Mixing by weight into a bottle doesn't have these losses.

That is, unless you plan to drip your volumetric flask directly into your rdas or tanks.

There are many different volumes available for these flasks, in fact you could use one with a calibrated laboratory scale as well, for adding the flavors.

The reason I asked, is because it's class A calibrated glassware, the final volume of the flask is very accurate (accuracy is closenes to true value) and very precise (precision is how reproducible your results are).

Therefore, the variations in final volume of the batches that you produce are highly reduced, and the reduction of this variation can help you to dial a recipe in, so that it is perfect, very reproducible, and consistent.

i really enjoy unicorn bottles

Give sugar cookie 5 days and try it again, but if it's harshness it is more likely your nicotine than the flavors. Weird, would be a way to describe it unsteeped, it's not uncommon for people to find unsteeped custard-heavy just to taste off, weird, or just plain yucky, but harsh is not a common word for it. Would you by any chance describe the flavor as peppery? Given those ingredients it would be normal to wait two weeks, but that particular blend doesn't really require it.

Really, really true shake and vapes are going to be almost exclusively fruit flavors, but I've always thought Mustard Milk (6% TFA Strawberry, 8% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream) tasted great when shake and vaped. Also, check out /r/ShakeAndVape and see if anything there appeals to you.

>If a fruit flavor is not mentioned in the juice reviews section, is there a good percentage to mix at to try them? Like, should all fruit flavors be mixed at 10% by themselves to try them? If I'm trying to ballpark, is there any penalty to starting at say 3% and adding 1-2% to the mix until I get it close to where I want it?

You can check out the specific flavor pages on ELR, ATF or in this subreddit to see what is the suggested single flavor %. 10% might be OK for a brand like TFA, but ludicrously high for some other flavors/brands. Just check online to see what is an acceptable amount ahead of time. Also, the final amount you want will depend on your preference and the gear you're using (is it sub-ohm, tank, dripper, MTL etc)

>Do I /need/ any of the additives like a sweetener, sour drops, or emulsifying agent? I feel like those are just extras that I can get by without unless I just can't get something to work.

You don't need these additives, but it doesn't hurt to have them either. Just start without using them and you can add it later.

Also, you've asked if you can add flavors to already mixed liquids, and yes you can. However, depending on the amount you add you might be knocking around your ratios a bit (the PG/VG ratio, also the amount of nicotine) But if you are only doing it to test how 2 things added together will taste, it should give you a good idea.

You said you got gloves. Are they latex or nitrile?

I believe it's TFA Tobacco Absolute.

look for this flavour here in search bar, on e-liquid-recipes.com or alltheflvours.com

Replying to my own comment as I think the wording might have be confusing. I am not looking for a recipe to try. I am trying to know what % of a single flavor to use to taste that one flavor in a single flavor e-juice recipe. Example - I have TFA Dragon Fruit. I want to mix up 30ml of juive and only use TFA Dragon Fruit - what is the % of flavor I use? Thanks!

Capella Blue raspberry cotton candy is a great place to start.

EM + Raspberry + Juicy Peach

/u/Synysterjesterx See above ^