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FA Bergamot
submitted over 8 years ago by ConcreteRiver

Setup: Recoil w/ flavor barrel, Dual 15 wrap 26g 3mm Nifethal 70 coils @.17 ohms. 60w power, 450F temp limit. Full Cotton Wicks.

Testing: FA Bergamot @ .5%, 60/40 VG/PG, Steeped 7 days.

Flavor Description: It's (mostly) what makes earl grey tea stand out from normal black tea. Definitely not a fruit flavor. More of a spicy musk. Warm, peppery, and lightly sweet, this has just a tiny bit of a creamy orange buried somewhere underneath all that.

Inhale is relatively neutral, fairly dense, and smooth with some sour citrus in there. Almost a vanilla note. The exhale kind of blows up into black pepper. Pronounced warmth there, a lot like clove flavors. Still, denser and fluffier than you'd expect given the black pepper thing. Nice baseline sweetness, even at .5%. Overall, it's a musky (without really crossing into earthy) spice note on top of a smooth (very lightly) orange-tinged base. A lot like FA Hypnotic Mist with a less complex base and much stronger spice note.

Off-flavors: Admittedly odd vaped solo, but nothing that seems completely out of place?

Throat Hit: Moderate when vaped solo. Not as harsh as it could be, all things considered.

Uses & Pairings: Earl grey tea is the obvious play here. Find a concentration that works for your favorite black tea flavor, add .1%-.3% of this and enjoy. Maybe 1 drop of this, and .5% of hypnotic mist if you want the tea a bit softer and creamier.

The warming note here is going to be useful for an authentic kind of spice punch to more savory recipes. Would pair well Cardamom or Clove to round that spice flavor out a bit. I'd also suggest vanilla, if you want a spicier note a lot like you'd get from fairly raw specks of vanilla bean as opposed to a finished vanilla extract or flavoring.

Works well as tobacco additive. Added a couple drops into a bottle of FLV Native Tobacco and it definitely warms up the mix a bit and gives the flavor a bit of "hit" without adding noticeably to the overall throat hit.

This also shows up in low percentages in cereal vapes, but I'm not 100% sure it works in the way that I thought it did. Instead of adding zest bitterness, it seems to add a dimension to that AP graininess you get from cereal concentrates. As far I can tell there is nothing that actually reads as citrus zest here. It really is just that peppery musky volume. If someone has more experience with using this in a cereal vape, please tell me I'm wrong.

Notes:

Straight black pepper, so use sparingly. This is another start at 1 drop per 30 ml and work up. You'll notice the effect on other flavors and the warmth before you get a clear pepper taste. There are very few applications that you'd want to go above .5%. Maybe a very spicy earl grey, or you really want to nail that bear mace profile, brah. Just for laughs, I tried at 1, 2, and 3% and it's not a great idea.

More of a flavor enhancer for spice notes, as opposed to anything you'd really want to taste. Interesting stuff.

Second Opinions:

Seriously, just read this by /u/ilikeycoffee. It's awesome. Actually just read everything relating to flavor they wrote. It's okay, the links to shitty ELR notes will still be here when you finish.

Anyone want to read 20 copies of HIC's note on bergamot? ELR never disappoints.

Here's a take by /u/RinVapes in youtube form.

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4 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

weird I dont get a pepper note.

It's more like a sweet cross between a lemon and a mandarin for me.

Srsly strong though 0.1% took over mix in 50/50

2 points
 
by ConcreteRiverover 8 years ago

Weird, I just get that pepper out of it with a tiny bit of orange somewhere in the mix but it does taste like bergamot should to me? If that makes sense. My only reference is earl grey tea but it's dead on for that kind of warm spicy orange note i get there. I'm sort of mystified at this point.

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

I dont think ive ever used it that high ha it's soo fucking strong

like I needed sub 0.1% for a "light accent"

I could agree with whoever said it's an ingredient in cereal recipes. Bergamot and FA meringue really reminded me of fruity pebbles or fruit loops.

I dont have any reference on bergamot other than tea either.

4 points
 
by Hodorhohodorover 8 years ago

Bergamot was incorporated into the froot loops recipes specifically, because it's suggested that it may be one of the actual flavorings in froot loops, not because it necessarily enhances cereal vapes in general.

2 points
 
by bogey_againover 8 years ago

Bergamot to me is floral, green, leafy and bitter. With hints of the white rind of an orange or grapefruit.

1 points
 
by CheebaSteebaover 8 years agoFrugivore

Another awesome review! One of my favs for giving a little bit of spice/citrus note in to a recipe. Works extraordinarily well with FA Gin!

1 points
 
by T_Maceover 8 years agoresident tobacco specialist

I could see how that would play nice with Native and or Kentucky. Good call.

1 points
 
by prokreatover 8 years ago

thanks for the review, i have been baffled as to what to do with this for ages now... now i have to think some more with some of my ideas to apply it to.

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