13
Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of January 02, 2017
submitted over 8 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

Comments
Sort
5 points
 
by heavyMGSover 8 years ago

I'm curious what the current consensus is on magnetic stirrers?

I don't really see them mentioned much as of late around here but if you go back a year or so, they seemed to be fairly popular around these parts.

Did most find that traditional hand shaking and just plain old time to mix and steep their ejuice is the best, most economical way or the advantages of a magnetic stirrer were not all that great?

Still haven't mixed a single drop of ejuice myself. Longtime lurker. I'm thinking January 2017 will be the start of my mixing journey.

Cheers

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

Could be wrong, but I think most people just mix by weight right into the bottle, shake it until our arms are tired and then shake it some more, and have come to realize that there is no substitute for plain old time when it comes to steeping.

2 points
 
by DGsirb1978over 8 years ago

I would agree with this^^^ although I've never used a stirrer

There are 3 pretty cheap ones available in the classies right now being sold by RomanHaze

2 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCover 8 years ago

I use an electric paint shaker meant for 1 gallon paint cans. I wrap my juice in a few rags, put it in the quart-to-gallon adaptor, and give it a whirl for at least 30min, usually more. It definitely seems to help.

5 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

I would love to have one of those. Or even just a reciprocating saw with a clamp on the end.

But a set of arms with a bit too much practice making that particular motion used for shaking juice does get the job done. What? I shoot a lot of dice.

3 points
 
by EphramRafaelover 8 years ago

Figured I'd post this here and test the water before advancing. I have done little research on the topic, but I'm curious what others have to say.

Does anyone have experience replicating the liquid in the Juul Mint pods? I'm aware it is nicotine salt in the pods, but beyond that, I have no idea. Early into my ownership I tossed some 18mg/mL 60/40 liquid into an empty pod and tried it. It leaked like crazy and got all over my mouth. Not a great experience.

I'm asking, because for reasons of economy, and with all the pod-style systems coming out with refillable options like the MyJet, I'm curious if I can get my mint fix cheaper than buying these four dollar pods and waiting for shipment.

4 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

you can try this and ask /u/worstadviceroc if he's had any updates for it.

3 points
 
by EphramRafaelover 8 years ago

Thanks for the heads up! Looks like he replied after you.

3 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCover 8 years ago

You won't replicate it in any other device, in my experience. A few tricks- whatever recipe you use, keep it at least 85/15 up to max VG. Fill the pod to the top (just under the black plug) and prime it by holding your finger over the contacts and sucking. This gets the vacuum that helps wicking/leaking.

Currently I use Nude Nicotine's "Smooth" nic salt 100mg/ml formulation, as it's the only one currently available in a VG base. However, after speaking with them recently, it seems they may be coming out with the "Hit" formulation in PG(EDIT-In VG), as well as possibly a whole new products geared towards customers who want to emulate the JUUL experience.

So far my best Miint clone has 1.5% INW Mix Mint, 0.75% INW Eucalyptus w/ Mint, and 8% FW DoubleMint. Throwing in some Ethyl Maltol helps, but today I'm actually experimenting with Pyure, a Reb-A sweetener available at Wal-Mart.

3 points
 
by EphramRafaelover 8 years ago

Where you getting the INW Mix Mint and INW Eucalyptus w/ Mint?

Wizard Labs is my local supplier (I live near them - and usually opt for pickup), and they don't have either in stock. Actually, they don't have the FW DoubleMint either.

Has Nude tightened up on their QC? I remember ~8 months ago people were getting hot batches of nicotine. I used them almost exclusively up until that, before switching to a local supplier.

3 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

bullcity flavors has all three in stock, assuming the FW Double Mint is FW double mint gum.

also, i couldn't imagine how wonderful and bank account draining it would be for me to have a vendor in my city that sold flavors. i'd always be broke. the only place in my city that even remotely sells diy stuff carries like 20 flavors of unknown brand.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Their nicotine is good. It's the shipping and processing times you should be aware of with them.

1 points
 
by WorstAdviceROCover 8 years ago

RTS Vapes. I know there were a few issues with Nude, but that is forgivable in my eyes. Still the best all around Nic supplier IMO, and if you want nic salts, you really don't have another viable option. BTW, with their Smooth formulation, I mix at 50-60mg/ml for the Juul.

2 points
 
by skiddlzninjaover 8 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

Icare mini. It's another MTL device that wprks best with nicotine salts, but is refillable. Coils are extremely cheap, and it has a much better form factor than the others, along with a mobile charging dock that functions as an external battery for on the go. It's also cheaper than the others.

2 points
 
by EphramRafaelover 8 years ago

Had one, managed to cross-thread the downstem almost instantly because it wouldn't line up despite my best efforts.

3 points
 
by LimeDriveover 8 years ago

Do you guys think it's okay to add both meringue and marshmallow to a recipe? I'm still trying to understand exactly what those two can really do.

5 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashurover 8 years ago

Definitely ok. Depending what you're trying to do you may use more of one or more of the other

3 points
 
by LimeDriveover 8 years ago

neat, thanks

4 points
 
by noodles1972over 8 years ago

I do.

3 points
 
by king_cheefer_420over 8 years ago

Anyone know of a good mix for strawberry, coconut and kiwi juice?

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

No but that certainly sounds like a great three-way.

3 points
 
by king_cheefer_420over 8 years ago

I went with 10% strawberry 5% kiwi and 3% coconut. Good shake and vape but only time will tell with steeping.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

What brands were they?

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

i was thinking that the other day as well :]

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

if you want something different try

4% fa strawberry

2% fa kiwi

0.75% inw coconut

50/50 for dripping.

3 points
 
by Kay998over 8 years ago

Interesting question:

Can you make your own DIY concentrates, what i mean by this is, can i mix a set of DIY concentrates and use it a later time? how could i measure the amount i need to add to my bottle of 30 or 60 or 120 mls of pure concentrates.

5 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

There are calculators that can tell you everything you need to know. E-liquid-recipes.com has one but here's how I do it in my head.

This is informal by the way, there are formulas but this is easy to remember

Say you have a recipe

  • 4% FA strawverry
  • 2% Fa kiwi

In 30ml that equates to

  • 1.2g strawberry
  • 0.6g. Kiwi

Move the decimal point 1 place to the right or multiply that by ten (same thing)

Now we have

  • 12g fa strawberry
  • 6g fa kiwi

That's enough flavor for 300ml of eliquid now.

In 30ml we used 1.8g of flavor base so if you wanna make 60ml add twice as much (3.6g of flavor base)

3 points
 
by Kay998over 8 years ago

So basically if i do a 100ml concentrate

flavor 1: 4ml flavor 2: 2ml

would be 40ml and 20ml in that order and thats enough for 1 litter of e juice.

which is awesome! but how do you calculate the lower do you just take the base mls/grams which is 6mls(this is for 100ml) and multiply it for lets say 30ml if e juice the ammount of concentrate i need to add from my 100ml base would be 6*.30 = 1.8 mls of concentrate for a 30 ml bottle?

and for a 250ml mix would be 6+6+(6*.5) = 15 mls of the concentrate for the 250 ml bottle?

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

>So basically if i do a 100ml concentrate

>flavor 1: 4ml flavor 2: 2ml

>would be 40ml and 20ml in that order and thats enough for 1 litter of e juice

Yes exactly


>but how do you calculate the lower do you just take the base mls/grams which is 6mls(this is for 100ml) and multiply it for lets say 30ml if e juice the ammount of concentrate i need to add from my 100ml base would be 6*.30 = 1.8 mls of concentrate for a 30 ml bottle?

You are correct. another way to do it is:

multiply the total flavor percent of your recipe: by the volume of eliquid you are making. ( I was going to type out earlier but was not sure and didnt want to convolute fact with conjecture/was on a cell phone). the math checks out though

so your recipe has 6% of flavor total and you wanna make 30ml.

30ml * 0.06 = 1.8ml of flavor base

/u/kay998 i edited my response in case you've already read it

>and for a 250ml mix would be 6+6+(6*.5) = 15 mls of the concentrate for the 250 ml bottle?

yes for more complex math like that: i break it down in my head just like that. the math check out though

250 * 6% = 250 * 0.06

250 * 0.06 = 15ml

heres the guide i was looking for earlier

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3r80em/how_to_make_flavor_shots_pre_mix_flavors/

oh and in case you are wondering that is a good shake n vape recipe in 50/50 vg/pg. i do drip it though. higher vg or tanks may require more flavor

2 points
 
by Gushluvaover 8 years agoTobacconist

Yes

3 points
 
by NY_Sover 8 years ago

I'm a couple weeks into DIY, and so far have been just using recipes found online. I want to start coming up with my own recipes, but want to keep waste as low as possible, of course.

Is 6-8ml too small for a test batch? I would assume that it wouldn't be an issue, but I'm fairly new to this. Maybe you lose something when going that small, I dunno. I have a bunch of empty 8ml glass vials from my first flavor order and figure they would make great containers for test batches.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

The only issue is that it's a little hard to get an accurate measurement under 10 ml if you're using very concentrated concentrates. If you're mixing them at like 5 to 10% it should be easy enough, but what about flavors that you'd use in the 0.5 to 1.5% range?

2 points
 
by NY_Sover 8 years ago

Good point. I didn't really think of that.

I mix by weight and my scale measures to .XX, so I guess if I try to stick with recipes that consist of flavors of 3% or higher, I would be OK. Thanks for the heads up.

3 points
 
by sensfan5555over 8 years ago

Looking for the creamiest of types of recipes? Is it the multi cream recipes? High percentage custards?

Regardless of eggy or whatnot flavour, I'm just wondering what are the most "full body" juices/flavours out there

3 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

inw creme brulee is pretty great by itself to me. i get it from bullcityvapor

2 points
 
by Rundonkeyover 8 years ago

I've got some to mixed at 5% standalone. I'm not getting much flavor.

What percent do you use?

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

3.3% (1:30ml) 50/50, cpl weeks for dripping (~0.3 resistance dual coil 8 wraps 20g 3.5mm on a mech)

5% 60/40-70/30 for tanks like the tfv4

what gear and setup you using?

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

My perception of creamy is something with a thick mouthfeel, with a taste that lingers in my mouth, throat and nose for a long time, such as FA Coconut, TFA VBIC, any of CAP's chocolates, for example. I can taste those for minutes after the last vape. Straight cream seems lighter to me in that regard.

3 points
 
by trueistrueover 8 years ago

Can someone briefly tell me the science behind steeping techniques?

As far as I'm aware, majority of flavor concentrates are pre-contained in a solution of PG and have been sitting/steeping already for weeks/months/longer at a time before they are shipped to you. How could additional time potentially increase/change the flavors at this step?

Is it more about getting the solution to bind tightly between additional solutions/flavors? Wouldn't proper mixing play more of a role than steeping?

I just don't understand how a flavor concentrate which has been already steeping in a bottle for who knows how long, benefit further from any additional time sitting in a bottle.

5 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

Homogenization is key.

You will have a real easy time blending pg with pg.

The trick is getting the pg to blend with the vg. Time, heat, agitation, and possibly pressure, blend the mixture into a uniform solution where all the constituents are evenly distributed.

The problem is some flavorants are extremely volatile or fragile and easily dissipate into the atmosphere. Heat exacerbates this situation. So heating a mix can make it taste bland bc some of the flavors you are supposed to be tasting have evaporated.

That is the reason time alone is recommended. Furthermore some flavorants or carriers may need to dissipate out of the mix (alcohol) or completely homogenize to taste proper. Otherwise you may just be vaping a mixture of mostly unflavored vg and highly flavored pg. That could lead to your 1% mixture not actually being 1%.

When you make a bottle of eliquid you may notice the vg sits at the bottom. when you shake it you can actually see strands of vg in the mix that are mixed with the pg, but not actually blended. This is why you need time and agitation to uniformly distribute your concentrate.

This is also why it is recommended to shake your flavor concentrates, nicotine, and eliquid mixes before use. Over time your flavors, nic, or recipes can separate, and you may not be able to visually identify it.

TLDR: Its hard to evenly mix 1% of something into 99% of something else thicker. Time allows the flavor to leech into the much denser vg. Liquids w/ different or high viscosities and/or specific gravity (idk which) is where time makes a difference. dont use heat. mix 50/50 to speed things up

Shake nicotine, flavors, and finished mixes, before use.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homogeneous_mixture

3 points
 
by trueistrueover 8 years ago

So it seems like it's more of the fact that the compounds need more time to bond together and less of the idea that the flavorings will somehow evolve/nurture?

The way I see people talk about steeping, it seems like they believe it's like a wine or a natural juice that will ripen within time but we're generally dealing with artifical fine flavoring compounds that are already honed down to their engineered chemical makeup so I don't really see how that's possible.

So, would you say that mixing techniques is more important than steeping or is there still no technique/amount of mixing that would replace the technique that steeping/resting apparently does?

3 points
 
by trueistrueover 8 years ago

Would it make any sense to run a vg/pg/flavoring mix through a process similar to that of a whipped cream dispenser ( https://www.amazon.com/Whipped-Cream-Dispenser-Stainless-Steel/dp/B01DZ2HZ2U/ref=pd_lpo_79_tr_t_3?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=2BH32W53VWG8RHHD977Y )

In theory to me, it seems like it would be a quick technique for rapidly dispersing/mixing a solution very evenly

3 points
 
by 3423553453over 8 years ago

Not parent poster but I have an opinion.

> So it seems like it's more of the fact that the compounds need more time to bond together and less of the idea that the flavorings will somehow evolve/nurture?

Which is just a matter of semantics. Different compounds bonding together or just dissipating in another carrier liquid will change their (at least perceived) nature/taste.

Steeping, ageing, homogenizing, I think these are all appropriate terms.

> is there still no technique/amount of mixing that would replace the technique that steeping/resting apparently does?

Yes, gotta submit to the laws of fluid dynamics. We can't heat glycerin enough so that it would be thin enough to mix properly without damaging the volatile aroma compounds. It just has to bleed through at its own pace.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

hmm well this is conjecture but i do believe some flavors can have reactions in a mix and behave differently than either of the 2 flavors individually or even form completely different compounds.

something happens with creams over time and i think it has to do with homogenizing the concentrate as well as some of the top notes dissipating off, and heavier notes homogenizing.

>So, would you say that mixing techniques is more important than steeping or is there still no technique/amount of mixing that would replace the technique that steeping/resting apparently does?

It depends on the recipe/flavors really and your end goal.

Some fruits are a really great example of this. If you are just trying to make something for right now, the flavors arent harsh or too complex, and you dont mind 50/50.... that mix could be good today through next week. Just go lighter on the percentage

If you want to use a heavier cream flavor, higher vg, more complex (tobacco) or harsh flavors (fuji), or a mix with a longer shelf life

you may need a cpl days to weeks even a month, or higher percentages.

there are exceptions for everything i said though.

some fruits may take more time, some creams and tobacco can be shake n vape, or even get worse with time.

if you mix too high a percent time may save you, but even that has it's limits before mixing a lower (or higher) percentage becomes a more viable option

3 points
 
by noodles1972over 8 years ago

If you are talking about a single flavor mix you still want it to blend with additional pg/vg you add to get into a vapeable form but often overnight is fine for something like this, although I still notice some of my single flavor testers continue to develop over a few days. But any multiple flavor mixes you make need some time for the different molecules in the various concentrates to meld together along with the pg/vg. Sorry I don't have the science to explain this, just that I know it happens.

It's magic.

3 points
 
by rxpkover 8 years ago

Hope this is the right place to ask this question.

I want to make a Strawberry Lemonade. I am new to DIY and don't want to waste flavorings on bad % mixes.

The flavors I have are. TFA Ripe Strawberry LA Lemonade (I have more LA flavors from candy making but they have dye and I would rather not use them, like Strawberry & Blueberry)

I also have: TFA Watermelon TFA Ethyl Maltol TFA Hawaiian Drink (Not my favorite flavor) TFA Dragonfruit TFA Cherry CAP Bubblegum INW Cactus & Sweetner

Additional Questions: I like the idea of getting a magnetic stirrer. Any reason to not get one?

Is the verified vendor list up to date? I got a 404 error on one and just want to make sure I'm getting the best prices.

Citric Acid/Malic Acid. When people talk about citric acid do they mean the powder stuff you put in candy?

Will my hard candy recipes translate well to vape flavor?

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

You are in the correct place homie

>Additional Questions: I like the idea of getting a magnetic stirrer. Any reason to not get one?

Do you need one or want one? Could that money be better spent on more or different flavors or materials? Not in a rude way. there was a question about em in this thread or an older one i believe. they may or may not be great for higher vg idk

>I am new to DIY and don't want to waste flavorings on bad % mixes.

I think this one is well reviewed

https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/3427#best_damn_pink_lemonade_by_vurve

maybe you can tweak it to your own.

>Is the verified vendor list up to date? I got a 404 error on one and just want to make sure I'm getting the best prices.

IDK. what vendor/country ?

>Citric Acid/Malic Acid. When people talk about citric acid do they mean the powder stuff you put in candy?

They should be specific as to which but yes. I think ppl make dilutions of them in pg and go from there.

>Will my hard candy recipes translate well to vape flavor?

...maybe? like my daddy said, "there's more than 1 way to skin a cat."

Post it up and maybe we can tell you or try it out for your or ourselves. Be careful though as some food flavorants/components may be hazardous to inhale.

Corn Syrup for one.

3 points
 
by Pvt_Snafuover 8 years ago

First DIY order, looking to cut the monthly cost of my vaping. Sourcing the nic, TFA and CAP flavours from Dark Star and the rest from a handful of other sites. I've based my list on info from the side bar and guides. Currently vaping a lot of Strawberry Milk, PBJ and a tropical fruit juice. Missed vaping V2 Sahara so I thought I'd pick up a couple of tobacco flavours with my first order.

How does this look? 14 gauge needles (5), 10ml syringes (5), 1ml syringes (5), 10ml ldpe bottle (20), 30ml ldpe bottle (10), 5ml syringes (5), 1l nicotine base, 1l VG, 500ml PG, TFA Turkish, TFA Black Honey, TFA Cotton Candy, TFA Hazelnut, TFA Peanut Butter, TFA Pear, TFA Bavarian Cream, FA Vienna Cream, INW Coconut, FA Fuji, TFA Vanilla Swirl, FA Strawberry, CAP Vanilla Custard, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, FA Kiwi, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Marshmallow, FA Cream Fresh, CAP Sugar Cookie V1, INW Cactus

edit because I'm terrible at formatting.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

Did you look into skipping the needles and syringes and getting a scale to mix by weight before before deciding to go with mixing by volume?

Did you read reviews on those TFA tobacco flavors that made it sound like those are the right flavors for you or find recipes using them that you want to make?

2 points
 
by Pvt_Snafuover 8 years ago

Are there advantages to mixing by weight over volume? I figured volume would be an easier entry.

I've checked reviews and posts on them, I've also seen a couple of recipes I'd really like to try.

3 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

On the tobaccos, just checking.

As for mixing by weight? Yes. God, yes. I spent an embarrassingly long time washing stupid syringes after every mixing session before I saw the light. So much quicker and easier to just drip the flavor right into the bottle, shake, and done. So much faster. Zero cleanup. No longer having to buy syringes when they wear out so initial higher investment for a scale pays off. Probably more accurate than syringes too.

1 points
 
by DGsirb1978over 8 years ago

Mixing by weight is so much easier/better and the right way to do it imo. Almost no cleanup and so much more precise, especially for repeatability.Only exception would be mixing very large volumes.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

Not my favorite tobacco flavors but theyre worth a shot in sample sizes.

If those are the biggest "risks" you are taking id say go for it. Your order looks delicious and way better than my first order.

3 points
 
by Pvt_Snafuover 8 years ago

Are there any tobaccos you'd recommend?

Hah thanks, my order was built around your guide and the top 20 from December.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

:D

Are you stateside?

If so those concentrates are probably like $1.50 for sample sizes and you might like them (thats why risk was in quotations). If you have recipes picked out you are one step closer, than I was. The juice could be worth the squeeze


It depends on what you want really

TFA Black honey is weird to me and kind of hard to work with. Some ppl love it some hate it.

  • Inawera Gold ducat is a good replacement for the black honey, kind of like cavendish . way mo better imo
  • Inawera Gold for Pipe smells/seems like honey tobacco, havent tried it yet though.

Ppl really seem to like

TFA RY4 double (I dont though) but its probably not a bad start if you are after something like halo's tribeca.

  • Inawera Dromedary or S'camel same (thing) is a good replacement for RY4 double as a plug n play recipe thats swet, nutty, and tastes like tobacco.
3 points
 
by gobiscoover 8 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

So i got an odd request to help someone flavor their moonshine...

I have no idea where to start with this besides her request for a blue berry & raspberry flavor. I was thinking 50-50 of TFA blueberry wild and Raspberry sweet? Just give her a 10ml bottle and add a drop per 2 fluid oz. (not sure about that ratio)

I know this is off the wall but just seeing if there was any help to be found for this odd request.

2 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

I'd say 40% TFA Blueberry Extra, 30% FW Blueberry, 5% FA Bilberry, 20% TFA Raspberry Sweet, 5% CAP Italian Lemon Sicily. But that's because I have a bad habit of overcomplicating things and believe in /u/EdibleMalfunction's Blueberry Trinity. Don't give her a ratio, just tell her to add some drops, taste it, add more drops if needed, repeat as necessary.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Now there's an idea!

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

I've had Apple Pie Moonshine that was flavored with Capella flavorings before. It was pretty good!

2 points
 
by curiousoapover 8 years ago

Is it wise to use 100 VG with Lorann oils for flavoring? How much flavoring oil should I use for the flavor to come through in a 10ml bottle? Thanks!

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Do you mean just VG except for the flavors? Sure. Just make sure if you are using VG nic to shake the heck out of it every time you use the nic. It depends on which flavors you are using for your percentage of flavor question. Not all LA is safe to vape or even good enough to use on its own.

2 points
 
by curiousoapover 8 years ago

Great! I probably won't be using VG nic. I found a thread of water-based LA that are deemed safe to vape. Can I just play around with the flavor levels till I'm content? Is there any way to go wrong with just adding more flavor to the solution until I find it desirable?

3 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

i would't say wrong per se but unless you're keeping meticulous track of how much you've vaped before you add more flavor and how much concentrate you're adding you'll find it hard to make repeatable batches that way. your best bet would be to make small batches of 10 to 15ml at various flavor percentages to find which one works best for you.

2 points
 
by Strykedeadover 8 years ago

Just ordered my first flavors thanks to vapewilds giveaway 2 weeks ago. I got Lemonade, Natural orange, Salted caramel, cinnamon, and coffee with cream. Is there a calculator or site i could use to find some good mixes for these, or could anyone recommend a recipe?

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

I think someone said those concentrates were Flavor West. If so, just the usual ATF or ELR.

3 points
 
by Strykedeadover 8 years ago

These are great tools, thank you!

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

Use this thread for recipe recommendations. It's a weekly thread that starts over on Friday, so if you don't get a suggestion this week or just want more recommendations, post your flavors there again tomorrow.

2 points
 
by Strykedeadover 8 years ago

Thank you, I'll definitely check it out!

2 points
 
by seye_the_soothsayerover 8 years ago

So, I wanted to try DIY because juice is murdering my wallet. So I went and ordered some stuff to try it out. I'm Croatian so I only had access to like,one shop that sells Diy stuff,and offers cash on delivery payment.

Also,English is my second language,so I'm gonna screw some words and stuff so bear with me.

I purchased 500 ml of inFamous premium nicotine base VG/PG 70/30. Because I like that ratio the best in juice I buy.

I also bought RY4 Double Flavor from The Flavor Apprentice 15ml and sub zero from Twisted-Vaping 10ml. No Idea if they are any good I just picked two with the best rating and good words in comments.

I also purchased 100ml of pure VG because it was cheap and I needed to fill my cart to get free shipping.

For my first act I took a 30 ml bottle filled to about ⅓ with different tobbaco juices,mostly 24 mg 50/50 Dekang juices I dumped out of my tank and didn't want to throw out. Filled to about ¾ with my Base,and topped it off with VG and a couple of drops of RY4 flavor.

I call it The Widowmaker™

I'm not expecting much from that one,just wanted to try mixing something that won't be a big deal if I have to throw out my first try.

I'm officially accepting advice,tips,tricks and compliments. I'll even take an insult of two if I learn something from it.

EDIT; So, I mixed it with percentages I found on the vendors site...Seems pretty straight forward this far. Now what? Just shake and vape? Steep? Storage over several months? Will a closet do?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Your ratio is not going to be 70/30 if you mix like that

2 points
 
by seye_the_soothsayerover 8 years ago

I'm aware, bit to thick. Don't have any PG tho, can I dump some water in it?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You should be using a calculator to figure out what amounts you need to mix. Dumping ingredients into a bottle isn't going to amount to something desirable

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

So it seems like your eliquid is probably coming out about the same ratio as mine 50/50.

Tobacco flavors may take more time to develop. Within 3-7days your flavors will probably start tasting better. Some may need more time after that.

If a flavor isn't coming out right or is kind of perfume tasting, try lowering the amount of flavor that you are using or wait longer :]

2 points
 
by seye_the_soothsayerover 8 years ago

>If a flavor isn't coming out right or is kind of perfume tasting, try lowering the amount of flavor that you are using or wait longer :]

Is it OK to just drop some more base into it then? If it feels to strong?

1 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

that also works. make sure to take notes on what you mix so you can reproduce it later on

2 points
 
by mephprojectover 8 years ago

Hey there guys. I'm pretty new to the DIY connection. So first of all. Wish u all a great 2k17. My question is, is there a difference between a ready to go mixed up 80/20 (vg/pg) mix with 3mg where I only need to put the flavors in and mixing it up by myself?(seperate PG VG and Nic) I'm asking because I dont know why, but with some flavours I get such a bad throat hit with the 80/20 and with some not. Is it the flavours that can cause such a throat hit? I read a lot about that it could be the nicotine, but why it doesn't happen on certain flavours whereas on other it does? Thanks in advance

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

It's most likely the flavors. Which ones are you using and how much of them are you using?

2 points
 
by mephprojectover 8 years ago

well I got the worst experience with FA strawberry, FA fuji Twisted Creamy Melon and Twisted blueberry I do only 1 ingredient recipes. Well atleast for now as Im a beginner.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

I don't know anything about the Twisted flavors, but what percentage are you using for those FA flavors?

2 points
 
by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

What are some flavors that are important for your arsenal but you do not need a lot of them, and what are some flavors that are important that you will go through very fast?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Papaya and Sugar Cookie, respectfully

3 points
 
by bogey_againover 8 years ago

pfft papaya?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I barely use it myself. But my father's ADV recipe uses it.

2 points
 
by bobbysavageover 8 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

pfftpaya

the f's are silent

2 points
 
by bogey_againover 8 years ago

First you need to tell us what your flavor profile is. Cream, Tobacco, dessert/bakery, fruit, cereal, etc...

The My first order list is a good place to look for flavors that you will use often however it's not in order of % used.

Here is an article unexpected flavor that pushes your "basic" recipe to something amazing? of flavors that you may not go through as fast.

2 points
 
by nwpulverizerover 8 years ago

I like everything except tobaccos really. I think I am going to try the looper clone someone posted on here awhile ago. I was about to order 30mls of all the my first order list

2 points
 
by itsJaykeover 8 years ago

So as alot of you know there is flavours that stay on your tongue after vaping them.

I've been vaping Nasty Juices A$AP Grape. It stays on the tongue for ages and I absolutely love it.

I haven't done DIY in a while as I never managed to get a flavour that I liked for more than a hour.

Any amazing ADV recipes that stand out from the rest?

3 points
 
by goldfish18over 8 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Sucralose is what will give a recipe that lingering sweetness. Use it from 1-3%

AS for ADV recipes, check out all the recipes posted in the best of 2016 thread

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5lfny8/best_recipe_of_2016_contest/

2 points
 
by 3423553453over 8 years ago

Anyone knows what happened to ECX ? Their website has been down for more than a week now :(

edit: you guys are right, I thought they might have had some downtime due to the sales, turns out it works fine in Internet explorer but not in firefox :(

edit2: cleared my cookies in firefox and now the website loads...

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsover 8 years ago

http://www.ecigexpress.com/ ? Works for me. Try another browser.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It works fine. It's not down

2 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

like everyone else said it works fine for me, i have an order arriving tomorrow. maybe. if usps is going to be running. their site loads slow as fuck for me though always. try this.

if you're using windows (idk how the fuck you get a terminal on IOS) right click on the start button and chose "RUN"

type CMD

when you're at the c: type ping ecigexpress.com

2 points
 
by MakeASDover 8 years ago

Do new empty mixing bottles need to be washed before use?

2 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

couldn't hurt to give them a rinse

2 points
 
by Skelyosover 8 years ago

When i'm mixing should i have separate syringes for VG & PG and the flavours?

I know nicotine must have a separate syringe.

3 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

yes.

either that or wash them out well in-between each flavor. this is why we mixing by weight is the better option.

2 points
 
by sdssebastianover 8 years ago

You should have a sepparate one for nic and flavors. The rest is up to you. I usually use a different serynge for each flavor.

2 points
 
by UnsuspectedGoatover 8 years ago

Hi everyone! I was looking to substitute TFA menthol with koolada to get rid of mint flavor in fresh fruit juices I liked (thug juice, lateralus clone...). However, If I never go higher than 1% with menthol due to it's strength, I feel almost nothing with koolada at concentrations as high as 5%. Nothing changed besides that. Is something wrong about my understading of koolada or something else is at play?

3 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

shit. 1% koolada is like inhaling jack frost's dick to me. flavorart has a koolada called polar blast you can see if that does it for you.

1 points
 
by UnsuspectedGoatover 8 years ago

Thanks, gonna check that. I just wonder what is the ingredient. If it's the same at a different concentration, maybe I should just stick to menthol.

2 points
 
by Franz_Ferdinandover 8 years ago

Hey everyone! I'm getting started with DIY and I have a list of flavors, bases, and nicotine that I want to buy but before I pulled the trigger I wanted to ask: Do any of the DIY vendors have regular sales? I'm happy to order from whoever, just trying to save some money as I order about 65 $ worth of flavors and other materials.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

They often have sales but the vendors and what they have on sale varies. Biggest sales are around holidays so you would have to wait awhile for one of those. Which vendors are you looking to buy from? There might be a coupon code that could save you a little.

2 points
 
by Franz_Ferdinandover 8 years ago

I see. Thank you very much! I'm looking either at bull city flavors or ecig express.

1 points
 
by ID10-Tover 8 years ago

"DIYORDIE-CONTEST" is a coupon code that will get you 10% off until the 26th

2 points
 
by EclayC1973over 8 years ago

A question about thickening cream bases. I want a nice thick cream. (That's what she said. There, I did it for you.) Like a clotted cream. I want to use it with TFA Strawberry ripe for just a straight up Strawberries and cream. Not too sweet on the strawberry. Been listening to the Beginners Blending podcast and I heard them talk about Sugar Cookie (FW I think?) as a thickener. Would this give me what I'm looking for? I was planning on using the Milkstone v1 base as my starting point.

By the way, if anyone is in my boat as a beginner, Beginners Blending is an amazing resource. You guys do a great job. Been downloading a few episodes of that and In The Mix to listen to at work. Thanks all!

Edited for typos

2 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngover 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

If I want something thick, I usually use TFA Sweet Cream at 2-3 % and let it sit a week. You'll want to bump your Strawberry up a little, because it has a tendency to mute fruit flavors quite a bit.

1 points
 
by EclayC1973over 8 years ago

Adding more cream won't be too much? I know that too much cream will drown fruit flavors. Maybe I should add a sweeter strawberry too. Maybe shisha strawberry or just tfa strawberry. Was thinking of maybe dragonfruit for brightness. Like at 1%. Everyone's got a strawberries and cream recipe. Just trying to figure mine out.

2 points
 
by OG_Cottonover 8 years ago

You're looking in the right direction just mix up and tweak it as needed

2 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngover 8 years agoThanks for reading this flair

I was suggesting to skip the stone and just use TFA SC.

1 points
 
by sdssebastianover 8 years ago

Hey guys, is it possible to get my diy ejuice have a certain color, like blue or yellow or something like that? I am currently making 3mg nicotine liquid, so the nic isnt affecting the end color at all.

4 points
 
by Boondocover 8 years ago

i doubt anyone here is going to recommend that you do that.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Juice isn't supposed to be colored with crazy hues.

2 points
 
by sdssebastianover 8 years ago

The only reason i asked is because ive seen juices on the market, usually the premium ones that are blue, yellow, red, etc. I thaught there is a safe (no chemicals) way to obtain that color. My favorite DiY juice so far is Park Avenue Cheesecake which results in a nice yellow tint, but when i make Soho, the juice is completly transparent. Thank you for replies :)

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I am not familiar with either of those recipes, but a yellow tint is probably from the nicotine

1 points
 
by spamhitover 8 years ago

So I'm trying to save money. Where do I get the nicotine without paying an arm and a leg?

Vape clarity is all over tutorials but apparently gone.

1 points
 
by OG_Cottonover 8 years ago

Ecigexpress has 36 mg 120 ml for around 12 dollars. I've been using theirs since I started diy and it's always been quality.

1 points
 
by OG_Cottonover 8 years ago

Not a new mixer, but I didn't feel this warranted a thread. What is the legality behind selling my diy juice online, and how do I comply with any relevant laws?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Are you in the US? If so, you can't do that anymore

1 points
 
by OG_Cottonover 8 years ago

Yeah I'm in the US, I just see posts of people doing it on the classified reddits so I didn't know what was up.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Also, nice try, FDA

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionover 8 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Well that's not really "selling online." That's just person to person on reddit

Site copyright © 2025 DIY Compendium. Data courtesy of Reddit.