There should be a word for something that is exactly the right amount of scathing and helpful. Scathful?

It's most likely PG based. But just in case what is the brand?

i personally like nicotine river nic. it's clear and tasteless and the price is good. if you buy from there you're going to want to get your own amber storage bottles for it because it doesn't ship in glass.

i've heard good things about Vaperstek but i haven't personally tried tried it. i've heard mixed things about LiquidLab but again i've never tried it. i have tried Ecigexpress nic and was not a fan. at all.

Buy from Carolina Extract and avoid a future post complaining about your nicotine.

Edit: Dada1 gives you some sort of discount, I believe the D has to be capital.

>how do you determine what percentages of flavors to put in?

look on ATF and ELR and get a feel for how other people use them.

>should i start out with one flavor mixes or just go ahead and start experimenting?

since you're going to be using flavors we don't as a majority use you're going to want to start with single flavor tests. Since VW didn't think it was a good idea to give usage percentage recommendations you're pretty much going to have to guess. i have no idea how strong or week their flavors are so i'd suggest start at 5% and work your way up or down from there. that should give you some indication on how to answer your first question because you're not going to find a whole lot of information.

hopefully the people that won this can start doing some flavor reviews to add to the knowledge base for the others. i suspect the people that stick with diy will just move to the more commonly used brands though.

That sounds amazing. Was the actual dropper the same size?

What you are looking for is called either a controlled or uncontrolled dropper tip. Check out https://www.containerandpackaging.com/catalog/dropper-tips/123/#4363 Even though I have never ordered from them, they say that they do not have minimum order amounts, you just have to find the correct size for your bottle neck. Edit: Doh! I thought you were talking about plastic dripper bottles, for glass bottles you probably want something akin to https://www.containerandpackaging.com/item/M005R its like the normal glass dripper but bigger.

Other than probably being a little redundant, no.

Have you tried all of those flavors individually? It could be a weird interaction between two or the three of them (I'll never forget the time I combined CAP Sweet Mango, CAP Juicy Lemon, and TFA Strawberry Ripe hoping for a mango berry lemonade and instead got a sugared tomato) but it seems more likely that you just plain don't like one of those flavors. The %'s used aren't out of line for those flavors.

Absolutely no reason to reuse cotton. It's too cheap and too easy to rewick to burden yourself with saving and reusing cotton. Dry burn your coil, rinse, and then rewick for each flavor.

Uh. Toss the wick

please excuse my cheapness!

Obviously it depends on where you are getting your flavoring, but I have over 100 flavors and have never had any issue with bottles cracking or melting due to certain flavors (and I have Ripe Banana). I have heard reports of RB melting plastic, but my personal experience is that I have not experienced that experience.

The thing is, VW is fucking stupid. They offer a DIY flavor pack, some pg, and some vg with no real way to mix. Now, you may be thinking that winning this giveaway is super cool, but let me tell you why it might not be all peachy.

First, you need bottles to mix liquids in and they didn't provide any of those. You can reuse empty glass bottles you have lying around if you'd like. Remove labeling, take pipette out of the cap, boil the bottle and pipette in distilled or filtered water for about 10 mins and then let dry. If you want to buy some cheap plastic bottles, you can get them on amazon for any size you'd like.

Second, no one uses VW flavorings because they are either Flavor West flavorings, VW specific flavorings, or they are just given a VW name despite being a Flavor West flavoring. I think it's the latter of what I listed. The reason this sucks is because the majority of us here have never used VW flavorings so we cannot help with recipe suggestions.

Third, they didn't provide any pipettes or syringes to accurately measure out flavorings that you'd like to mix with. You have two options here. Buy some syringes or disposable pipettes to mix by volume or buy a scale to mix by weight. If you feel that you want to go further into DIY, then I'd suggest getting a scale with a resolution of 0.01g and a 500g capacity. If you just want to mix with the flavors that you won, then buy something similar to this

Fourth, this may not be a big deal to some, but most people that vape want their liquid to contain nicotine. This flavor pack does not contain nicotine so you're gonna have to buy some if you want your mixes to contain nicotine. Here is a guide that is all about nicotine.

So as you can see, if you want to be able to properly use what VW gave you, you will need to either already have items that will allow you to mix liquids or you will have to purchase additional necessities.

I'm sure we will all help as much as we can, but the knowledge and use of the VW flavorings is lacking and we all prefer to use flavor concentrates from the more popular and widely used companies.

Fuck you, VapeWild!

Are you asking a question? Also, what brand are those flavors?

VW doesn't have the best reputation in this community (for good reason, this giveaway certainly isn't helping their case) so you're not really going to find a lot of information on their concentrates here because we don't use them. i just had a look on www.e-liquid-recipes.com and it doesn't look like any one over there really uses them.

i think what's mostly to happen is a lot of people are going to get some pg/vg and some flavors and mix up a bottle or two and not be happy with the results. of those most are going to throw the supplies in a closet and forget about them. a few of them will enjoy the experience and become DIYers. for those that are inclined to stick around you're going to need a few things that vapewild isn't providing (hence the dissatisfaction among the regulars here).

check out this post and it still appeals to you work your way down the links in the sidebar.

Not many people have experience with their flavors. Did you already pick some out?

Congratulations on quitting smoking for vaping and now buying juice for making your own. Have you already ordered some flavors to make your own juice?

There are some makers of organic flavors just because they are organic doesn't necessarily make them tastier or healthier than flavors that aren't organic.

Dragonfruit will help blend things together but shouldn't be necessary with those two peaches, they'll layer fine on their own and make a nice, well-rounded peach. You might try an initial batch without it and then if you find that the peaches and lemons aren't blending well, add a little (0.75% to a subsequent batch). Try 2.25% FA White Peach and 1.25% TFA Juicy Peach for starters, see if that gets you enough peach flavor. I believe it will.

My main concern about this is harshness. Citrus can be notoriously harsh, strawberry ripe definitely helps mellow that out. Peach is also notoriously harsh for some people. You put peach and lemon together, will that equal double harsh? Or will it just be delicious peach lemonade? Only one way to find out for sure would be to mix it up. If you have Ethyl Maltol or TFA Cotton Candy (not the Circus Cotton Candy, that's a completely different animal) this would be a good place to use it at 1% or less.

Are you looking for suggestions on what to buy to add to the flavors you have to make something good? Or recipes for something good using just what you already have? Or both? Happy to help, just trying to make sure I understand the question.

That's too much TFA Watermelon or Watermelon Candy, in my opinion, and you shouldn't need to double the menthol as 1% should be plenty (maybe 1.5%) cool, but the addition of Raspberry or Pineapple in a Watermelon menthol juice sounds really interesting and potentially very tasty.

Hi there :) You could try this: http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/250705/Girl%20With%20The%20Dragon%20Cheescake

-Cheesecake (Graham Crust) (TPA) 8%

-Dragonfruit (TPA) 3%

-Vanilla Swirl (Substitute with vanilla cupcake or vanilla bean instead) (TPA) 5%

Not sure about the menthol sorry.

More flavoring does not always mean more flavor. You are dealing with a ton of tiny aroma volatiles. Sometimes if there are more aroma volatiles than necessary, you don't get the desired result.

If you recently switched to DIY liquid, give your palate time to adjust from the commercial liquid. Flavor will improve when your palate improves.

Sometimes that "punch" you are referring to is a need for a bit of sweetener. It could also be that the recipes you are using are just not very good.

Adding all the percents together is misleading.

If you were to make a good mix with 4 Flavorwest flavorings it might come out to 20%, if you make a good mix with good mix with 4 Flavorart flavorings it might come out to 5%. Different companies, different flavors, different profiles, different loudness of what you need.

Don't think "How loud can I make my guitar?"

Think, "How loud are the drums? Okay, now how loud should I make my guitar to go along with those drums?"

Find a base, find the right percent for it, then build around that. If it seems a bit too weak, a bit too strong, do a little math on all the flavorings *1.15 everything, *.90 everything. The flavors should work amongst themselves.

American Weigh Scales LB-501.

Weight is more accurate for the size of batches we make and there is less clean up if you have flavorings that have dripper tops.

This is what I used. There are also videos out there, but you'll have to search those. Maybe diyordie.com has one...

Pippettes are still good for mixing by weight if you have bottles that don't have dropper tops.

Definitely need a scale, the AWS-100 or LB-501 are good beginner scales, most people prefer the LB-501 but I like my AWS-100 just fine.

Pros:

• Superior accuracy
• Little to no clean-up
• Minimal user error
• Faster
• Superior for small quantities
• Cheese

Only time I ever really like to mix by volume anymore is if I'm making batches > 1L and even then I'd prob prefer to mix by weight if I had an appropriate scale

It's easier and more convenient.

I bought a 100 pack of pipettes when I started......I have like 94 left after mixing for 6 months of mixing. And I used those 6 because I didn't realize I should consolidate my VG/PG into smaller big squeezie bottles.

Hello and welcome to the sub!

Hardware has improved vastly in just a few years time, with more vapor production and better airflow, that's probably the biggest reason why overall percentages are dropping. But people are also getting better at mixing and figuring out that more flavoring doesn't not equal more flavor. You shouldn't limit yourself to a certain overall percentage though, anywhere between 5% and 20% is still common.

Individual percentages vary greatly, mostly by brand but also how you use them. FA and INW are stronger than CAP and TFA as a general rule, but if you haven't done any single flavor testing, you can look up the average percentage other people use them at. ATF and ELR spell it out for you, but also check our flavor reviews or do a search.

> I was just wondering why people now aim for lower %'s when mixing? It seems people used to aim for 20%, then 15%, and now I'm seeing recipes with less than 10%!

Higher percentages make your blend more prone to muting. It's just a rule of thumb for beginners to work with. Frankly speaking, the 15% rule doesn't really apply when you learn more advanced mixing. As evidenced by a lot of vendors who have flavorings totalling up to more than 20%.

/u/leapinglabrats already answered your questions as well if not better than I could, I just wanted to add another "hello and welcome to the sub!"

I haven't tried monkeying around with either of those recipes, but I think you could make a tasty lemonade by replacing the strawberry and raspberry in Best Damn with other fruits such as Mango, Peach, or Blueberry, and I'm sure the Nana Cream Clone wouldn't be hurt by the addition of something creamy and vanillay or maybe even a small amount of a bakery-type concentrate.

Nope. The only thing I did was donate for one of the Advocacy bags awhile back.

I have ordered some to be sent to someone who offered to try to clone it, but I haven't purchased juice for myself since April 2015.

very, very rarely for inspiration.

You are better off posting in the Clones thread. Having said that, it tells you exactly what is in it in that description you linked.

Post in the Suggest a Recipe Thread, please

What brand?

To add to what edible said, it's possible that your old VG had thinned out somewhat. This is due to VGs hydroscopic properties. Make sure to keep tightly closed when not in use.

Not yet. I'm sure a few companies will have some sales, though.

i had a good result with

RF blue raz (VG) - 5%-8%

TFA Cotton candy - 10%

tasted like cotton candy feels when it hits your tongue. that melting sensation of the strands of sugar. tested on a tugboat v2 with ss316 in TC @ 200c

How much Ethyl Maltol did you use?

I might depend on the recipes and vary from one recipe to the next what would work best as a substitute. What are the recipes?

This should be posted in the Clone Request Thread, but since it's someone's house juice, this is fine.

Buzzwords from the description are great and everything, but what does it taste like to you? Since you have had the juice, your description of the profile would be best. If it's powdered candy there's probably a ton of sweetener in it.

Flavor West Unicorn Vomit has a candy-like taste to it that taste very similar to fun dip.

I use these for my pg and vg. If you can find something like that, get it.

I use the AWS100 and I find it to be just fine for (most of) my mixing needs. It only measures in 100g at a time BUT it can actually measure up to about 300g with tare. It does not come with calibrations but even if your scale is off, it's going to be consistently off, meaning your mixes will be the same each time. I find this to be useful for batches between 0-60mL, if you plan on mixing anything higher than that then you will need the 501

JF Honeydew Melon. Seriously won't find a better Honeydew flavor than that

honestly, pg nic is a lot easier to deal with. if you're shooting for max vg i'd still say go with pg.

you can google "xyz reddit app sidebar" and figure out how to access the sidebar from your particular app. the sidebar contains a lot of essential material.

i use vg nicotine and haven't had a problem with it.

3mg/ml will dilute to a much lower percentage in a mix. you should be buying nicotine mixed at a higher percentage than your goal.

Sadly no. It was strange, they came back for a month following a warehouse fire. Then just vanished, didn't even say bye.

you in the USA?

if so try

Wizardlabs, bullcityvapor, gremlinDIY, or EcigExpress. (in no particular order)

some of them ship internationally as well but you might be better off finding someone local if not stateside

I wouldn't really trust them not to be damaged in some way. You should just order one and wait

I bought this lb501 scale at the recommendation of fellow reddit users. https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B005UGBG20/ref=ya_st_dp_summary. Seems good so far if your willing to wait for the shipment. What led me to buy this is the recommended accuracy but most importantly that damn auto-shutoff feature plagued by so many scales. This scale will auto shut off if there is no activity (weighing or pressing of buttons) In 10 minutes. The scale I was using shut off so many times during mid-weighing I almost had a stroke.

Not an answer to your question, but I wanted to give a plug for TFA Sweet and Tart. 1% with a good fruit (I like INW Lemon).

Many FW flavors contain fructose and are not safe to vape. I believe this is one of them. Don't use FW Sweet Tarts

And that same logic you are using should apply to "not using dyes in their juice"