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Vaping after smoking ...
submitted almost 9 years ago by sensfan5555

Hey guys. Not sure if this is a common problem, but after I smoke weed, I find every single flavour I vape has a gross burnt taste. The only way I've been able to subdue it is to MTL a high nic, citrus juice.

I was wondering if there are certain flavours you've noticed that don't have this effect? Or maybe there's a profile that already has a similar burnt taste that might blend with it?

Or maybe I'm just weird and it only happens to me...

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28 points
 
by alive1almost 9 years ago

It's easy, stop smoking weed.

No I really mean it, get a weed vaporizer.

7 points
 
by Ziserainalmost 9 years ago

I second this so hard. Back in the day when I had a Manhattan mod and a mutation v3 and a bong I would tend to smoke n' vape. I would always wonder why, no matter what flavor I would use, has my vapor become muted. I think only spearmint with some menthol was strong enough to puncture through. Realistically what happens is when you combust weed you are coating your mouth, tongue, and lungs in smoke. Seriously, smoke some purp' and blow a lungful of bong/blunt smoke through a paper towel, that is also coating your insides baby. After realizing that fact I would usually wait 5-10 minutes after smoking or wash my mouth out with water and usually I could taste my vape. I usually just smoke(vape?) Shatter which has 0 effects on the flavors of my ejuice. So I get to double-berrell my nicotine and the while double-barrelling some demons in Doom.

Tl:dr weed smoke coats your taste buds which mutes flavor. Drink lotsa water or vape your stash.

3 points
 
by thattswhatshesaidalmost 9 years ago

What's your process for incorporating the shatter? I can't find a good write up anywhere

5 points
 
by Auntjaemimaalmost 9 years ago

I don't know if this will be of any help, but I hope it steers you in the right direction.

If people are using shatter in an e-liquid setup they generally try to mix it with EJmix, puffmagic, holy terp etc. Which are carrier liquids for cannabis concentrates not dissimilar to pg and vg. Actually, most of them use PG and PEG. HolyTerp, though, has a product line called Pure^tmlol which is supposed to not contain any PG or PEG. Of these i have only tried ejmix, but have a shipment of their pure line coming in today.

With EJMix, the only solution that I was able to mix that remained liquid at room temperature was mixed at 1g of concentrate to .8g of ejmix, and the only discernible difference was the stability of the shatter used - in that it was very stable. The less stable shatters ended up soldifying even though I used close to 40% more solvent. It still worked. I'd just have to heat it up with a torch in my glass clearomizer lol. Now, as you might imagine, a concentrate diluted to basically half is going to feel weaker (especially out of a carto/clearo type vape) so people who go this route (ejmix and concentrate) generally move towards subohm tanks with TC setups (which is something i'll be trying soon). Depending on the stability of the concentrate Holy Terp's pure line (which is supposed to be very similar to another, much more expensive, product called Connosieur Concentrates) only needs .1-.5ml per gram of concentrate, so it can theoretically produce a much more potent liquid. I can only assume that companies like thclear and kurvana are using Connosieur Concentrate's solvents in their prefilled cartridges.

ALL OF THAT BEING SAID, A lot of people just throw a dab on their coils, and they use stainless steel mesh as a wick. There are other methods, but this is the easiest I've seen. You'll want to read user reports for specifics on this though.

2 points
 
by Ziserainalmost 9 years ago

I ended up just using a dab rig I bought at my dispensary for cheap. I used a lush rda once for a bit with the coil and steel mesh trick, but in the end it was too messy (for me that is ) so I'll use a dab globe attachment on an old istick 20w (yes I do like to live dangerously). If I can't use the dab rig.

3 points
 
by Auntjaemimaalmost 9 years ago

Yeah dude. I got a Milaana about 2 months ago, and it's great. The Milaana in particular isn't really a 1 hitter quitter. Which, if you're a bong/rig user, is a huge con, but there are plenty of other portable and desktop vapes that can hit like that. /r/vaporents is a great place to start. They're super noob-friendly over there.

2 points
 
by wafflepriest1almost 9 years ago

Yup, I have to third this. I quit smoking weed a few months after I quit cigs - I figured if I was cutting the smoke out of one area, I might as well cut it out totally.

The taste is still diminished after vaping weed, but I can actually TASTE the flavors still, rather than a disgusting burnt taste (I know exactly what OP means lol).

1 points
 
by diyvapingalmost 9 years agoMixologist

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Best at home whip vaporizer ever! Not flimsy, well constructed, works everytime.

6 points
 
by scOtterpopalmost 9 years ago

drink water.

2 points
 
by ridethegravytrainnalmost 9 years ago

Yea chug a bunch of water after and you'll taste flavor. For me juice just tastes bland like it's straight vg no flavoring

4 points
 
by bobbysavagealmost 9 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

The Ted nuggets are dominating your palate

FA strawberry seems to cut through it. The downside is you may not taste your dank bc the strawberry or (ethyl?) maltol can dominate your palate

Or.... Just get a nicotine buzz, get faded, do whatever it is you gotta do, and maybe eat or drink some some carbs, coffee, lemon. Forget about the nic

Brush your teeth tongue and floss also

3 points
 
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3 points
 
by caninevaporsalmost 9 years ago

Yeah this kind of happens to me when I'm high. It's not exactly a burnt taste but it's as if my palate is dried out somehow and I can't fully taste it. Even if I don't smoke and I just ate an edible or had a keef cola it'll still happen. Gets a lot of better if you drink a lot of water though. Just like anything when you're high ejuice tastes so good, you just have to get past the weird part. I'm not sure about the science behind it though. I know it's not just from smoking because like I said I even get it ingesting thc.

3 points
 
by MrBurgundy314almost 9 years ago

I haven't found anything to get around it or a flavor that stands up to it particularly well. Maybe Eucalyptus w/ Mint or a menthol flavor? I just brush my teeth after a good sesh and drink some water to minimize it. Usually goes away relatively quickly. I don't smoke weed nearly as often as I use concentrates though. Concentrates don't mess with the taste of vaping nearly as much, nor for as long as flower IME.

3 points
 
by SadPandaVapesalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Drink more water and deal with the fact that burning a plant might change your taste buds for a minute.

2 points
 
by bobbysavagealmost 9 years agoResident Tobacco Specialist

Try

4% fa strawberry - 2% fa kiwi in 50:50

Or ol greggs baileys bacco

Sorry for format im on mobile

2 points
 
by marsholemuealmost 9 years ago

Yo been vaping for about 3 years and this still happens to me. I think smoke particles from the weed land on your tongue and that's what gives you that taste. I still haven't found a way around it.

1 points
 
by chocolatiestcupcakealmost 9 years ago

smoke particles definitely hit your tongue, same as anything you put in your mouth. some of those molecules are stickier than others. and smoke (from cigs or weed) has plenty of sticky molecules. think of eating a pepper, they have sticky molecules as well that also happen to give you a hot sensation. it takes a while for those molecules to unbind from the receptors on your tongue. same as smoke

2 points
 
by CandyAltruismalmost 9 years ago

Same thing happens to me. I haven't been smoking at all lately but when I was, eating food would usually help, especially spicy food, along with a rewick.

2 points
 
by ajsam3almost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Sometimes a tobacco flavor tastes alright to me after smoking, but honesty I just prefer a hash vape these days to avoid what your going through, OP.

1 points
 
by VapeQueen214almost 9 years ago

I experience the same thing from smoking hash oil out of my tribute v3 :( Smoking weed is way worse but concentrates do it to me too.

1 points
 
by estherPricealmost 9 years ago

Same, I only smoke concentrates these days, and I have the same problem, except it's not a burnt taste, just a lack of taste in general.

1 points
 
by Apocrisiaryalmost 9 years ago

Jupp, happens to me too. Not too much you can do about it. Usually fine after 30-40 min after smoking though, so not a huge issue.

1 points
 
by b15onalmost 9 years ago

just make some weed ejuice. stay high

1 points
 
by vape_accountalmost 9 years ago

Hmmmm, it is definitely something to do with the interaction between your taste buds and the flavoring compounds in the juice.

I find that whenever I am a bit toasted (alcohol or otherwise), eating a mandarin orange or having a bit of fresh lemon/lime tends to refresh my palate. Also, drinking some nice cold water washes away any coating that might be forming from the "fun time" substances. I usually have some sort of citrus fruit in my house and eating a wedge and sipping some water seems to take care of the problem.

Maybe give it a go and see if it helps at all.

Cheers and good luck!

1 points
 
by I_am_paperclipalmost 9 years ago

On a different note does anyone else notice vaping after smoking significantly shortens the high? This has been the case in my experience at least.

1 points
 
by TadnJessalmost 9 years ago

I would not be surprised if the PG, which is used as a flavor carrier, is dissolving the leftover tars in your mouth and carrying them to your taste buds. I have noticed this sort of effect also after eating strongly flavored foods, like Doritos. It seems that any left over flavorings in my mouth just get amplified and the juice flavors just get buried into the background.

1 points
 
by elmfuzzyalmost 9 years ago

Yea that's normal. I've found that the bad flavor subsides after a few hours or after vaping for a little bit.

1 points
 
by deejaymillsnycalmost 9 years ago

yup my tastebuds are shot after smoking.. after drinkin alot of water and a bit of time it goes away...

1 points
 
by SuckMyJagon_almost 9 years agoI will rip you a new one if you don't use the sidebar & search.

Just chew some gum or brush your teeth or eat a bit of something or have a glass of OJ or drink some water... Just about anything will stop that flavor

1 points
 
by KHcactusalmost 9 years ago

Why do people who are into nic vaping still smoke weed? There's really good herb vapes out there. You can go combustion free!

1 points
 
by Mavdog95almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Happens to me every time. Just swish a drink or some water in your mouth before you vape and it usually goes away pretty quick.

1 points
 
by Reldofalmost 9 years ago

Brush your teeth before you smoke and maybe have water before you vape, when i do it makes the hit smoother and can generally taste vape better.

0 points
 
by Paleone123almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Because weed tastes like skunk turds? That's probably the problem.

2 points
 
by sd_junglistalmost 9 years ago

What kinda shitty shit you be smoking? In 2016!!?? No bueno

0 points
 
by mortinoalmost 9 years ago

So when you light something on fire and inhale the smoke, you get a burnt taste afterwards? Super strange. In all seriousness though get a dry herb atty and stop killing yourself. Should help a lot with the flavour as it won't be drowning your taste buds nearly as much in carcinogenic tar.

-1 points
 
by vigg-o-ramaalmost 9 years ago

I think what you are experiencing is the vapor pulling the smoke out of your lungs, and then tasting it as it comes out. When you smoke, some of it will condense in your lungs (this is how tar and shit builds up in your lungs from smoking). I think vaping right after, the vape is picking up some of the condensed smoke from your lungs and when you exhale its removing it.

I bet you stop tasting the smoke after 3 or 4 very big vape pulls..

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