Due to the overwhelming amount of people PM'ing me and asking what happened to the Modest Monday collection, I decided to just throw a link out there for everyone who wants it. These are all of the non-updated posts as they were previously posted.
As for why this is happening, my blurb from the other thread:
>Hey guys!
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>I took down a lot of the older Modest Mondays because I want to rewrite them to a more professional standard. They are safely stored away and backed up.
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>I've stopped writing them recently because I'm very busy with work, the MIXXED! contest, and other DIYorDie projects.
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>What happens when I'm done revising the old Modest Monday articles? They are going onto DIY or Die. They will be completely free just as they always have been. No pay wall. No account needed. All beginner content is always free.
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>Will I continue posting Modest Monday on Reddit? Yes, if I ever get back around it. I haven't written any Modest Mondays recently. No exclusive content anywhere. As I mentioned, just very busy.
And as Wayne noted:
>Also to those who might be wondering, this wasn't any type of "move" or anything like that. /u/Vurve has always been tight with DOD and he just decided its better to keep everything in one spot in its own section so people can find it a bit easier. Hopefully everyone will enjoy the new layout of the Beginner Posts once they're done!
That's all folks. In addition to this and the MIXXED! contest coming to a close, I have a lot more fun stuff planned for the future aimed at helping beginner mixers!
See you guys around.
Cheers for putting even more effort into this excellent work! While having a deadline can be a great incentive to get things done, it can also lead to unfinished work. It was good fun to have these posts every monday, but I absolutely understand why you would want to revisit them before publishing them as a bundle.
Which leads me to the second part, DoD. It doesn't matter what you think about Wayne, it's good to have a site to publish things like this on. Reddit is a great forum for reaching a lot of people and have discussions, but a terrible format for hypertext and an even worse archive. I'm all for moving important articles to an information database, especially if that means they get retouched and updated in the process.
DIYorDIE is so cheap, and it's necessary to have to pay a little to get such quality information all in one place. The subreddit is great, but if you want strictly quality information without all the crap without all the extra jibber jabber, then a site like Wayne's is exactly what the community needs.
And as for vurve's modest Monday, it's still gonna be free...just more professionally written in a concise manner like he said. Shout out to all the guys at DoD for alll the help!
Imagine if Wayne could have 5 or 6 guys like vurve and such to, on a regular basis, be paid to do intense studies in pairings and new flavour reviews or whatnot of every single flavour and put more time And effort into it. I'd be glad to pay more then a measly 3$ a month. It's all relative, and prioritized in everyone's own life's financials,but in the, it's clearly well worth the money.
$3 a month seems silly to me. There should be a one time option like $15.
The website itself is gorgeous, the homepage brings both my work pc and home pc to a stop though. My home pc I can get addons to fix this, fine. My workpc, nogo. I can't do anything about it, but I guess I should be working anyways.
The articles themselves are gorgeous, well organized, and very VERY VERY helpful and informative. I personally like books as a means of information though. I feel like paying for a blog is.........................................................not correct.
Plus a lot of the information is very one sided. To this day I have a lot of flavors I bought because Wayne described a certain way in his videos...I could never get those descriptions from these flavorings. And that's okay, that's not a complaint, that's just a fact of life. Different people interpret things differently. I don't feel like I personally would pay for just one man's opinion.....or a group of peoples opinions. I don't even pay for news.
I pay for physical art and tools to make art. Information should be free and shared because it's free to share. Art should be free and shared IF it's able to be free to share.
Just a little confused by what you mean, hoping you can clarify some points - and please don't take this as any sort of attack, I simply want to understand your point of view better.
What exactly is the difference between a one time $15 fee and the $3 monthly fee for you? The one time fee would make sense if you were just buying all the information he had released up until that point in time - like you can do with all the InTheMix magazines. But that's not what Wayne does - instead he and the DIYorDie team release articles (some behind a paywall, I'll even say that almost all of them are) and videos (almost NONE of which are behind a paywall) constantly, on at least a weekly basis. That is why the $3 a month fee works better in my eyes, because you are paying for the content you will be getting in the future/are getting at the moment - not to mention all the past content one gets access to as well. And if that content isn't up to your standards then you can just stop paying for the information.
Which leads me to my next question, what is the difference between paying for art classes and the DIYorDie website? Both try to provide information to those who pay for their services that will help them improve their craft - and maybe some YMCA art class would be free, but if you want more professional help you're gonna have to pay for it. It might be IDEAL for information to be free and shared, but I have $20K in college loan debt that will disagree with you that information is always free - people want money for their knowledge, especially if they had to work to acquire that knowledge.
I'm saying, paying $15 once, and I get access for life. To all new content, all current content, all old content. In comparison to $3 its very low, but in comparison to the value of information, I feel personally, with ways that I see information and how it should be shared, I don't know. I don't feel like I have the right to discuss the value, I shouldn't have a say in it, it's just out of my realm of understanding.
A better comparison would be to those online guitar courses that you x amount for helper videos, articles, music tracks, books, tons and tons and tons of content. Then they usually give all the information out for free anyways. The part that they're always selling is the convenience, it doesn't seem like that's the case here.
Paying for an art class is no where even clooooose dude. I mean come on. Come on. Creating and maintaining a website? Maintaining the templates, the coding of the site, or CMS. Updating regularly, scheduling that sort of stuff.
Or owning property. Paying teachers, renting tools, renting materials, creating a lesson plan, building a temporary list of students, scheduling per class, maintaining a budget within the art school. I mean.....was it a metaphor you were making?
Paying x per month for me is way more than just paying x per month. It's a whole nother bill I have to manage, it's a whole nother bill I have to say, "Is this worth it to me? What do I get from this?"
My car exploded last month, had to do an engine swap, cost me more than I wanted to, but had to be done, so I decided that Netflix's 7.99 a month just wasn't worth it anymore. That's 7.99. If I don't pay something once and own it, I put so little worth in it.
That's why I like books. You buy it, you can read it, you've read it, it has hard value.
> $3 a month seems silly to me. There should be a one time option like $15.
I agree with your comment. There should be yearly option, I don't even care if it's $36 yearly (no discount). I'm in Canada, and seeing these little piddly amounts monthly would put my OCD into overdrive, so I don't subscribe yet.
I wouldn't even care the slightest if it all went tits up, I wouldn't want any sort of refund. I just want to pay him upfront, and now.
The site, content, everything is great to me, like you've mentioned, and yeah it is one sided and all our taste buds are different.
I will be adding a a few new payment options starting in 2017. There are a ton of (smaller) changes to the site next year that I think people have been waiting for. A quicker, more steam lined site, more differing opinions from other writers, much more "produced content", more payment options for differing incomes, collaborations with other DIY entities, cleaner looks, other sections of media, bunch of stuff. I think those who are like you, waiting for an "easier" payment option, or waiting until the site seems a bit more "focused", or those who want to see a platform to engage personally and individually in, will be happy when the updates come.
Thanks for the non-updated posts, Vurve. I was pretty irritated when I saw that some of the Modest Mondays had been deleted, but figured you must have had your reasons, and after all, they were yours to delete. Before they were deleted, I was linking new mixers to the one about single-flavor testing (the most helpful and important Modest Monday of them all, IMO) at least seven times a week and to the one about single-flavor testing setups at least twice weekly (for dat half-wick method). Please, please, please let me know when there's a new, improved link I can send them to.
I noticed one of your comments mentioned "fixing grammar and syntax." I've noticed some common grammar issues such as their/they're/there, your/you're, and its/it's errors on DIYorDie (and everywhere else, for that matter). I don't judge based on that because it's a place for DIY e-juice and related content, not for grammarians to jerk each other off over their impeccable grammar. Besides, while many people think grammar and syntax errors reflect on the intelligence or education level of the writer, I tend to disagree. When you're looking at your own writing, especially on a screen, your brain can cover over mistakes with what you meant to type rather than seeing what you actually typed. More often than not, it's just a matter of needing a fresh set of eyes on something prior to publishing it. If you're going to be offering something for free to benefit new mixers and want another set of eyes on it first, you can borrow mine anytime.
When someone moves access to somewhere else, and says its not a move at all is the same as asking for $3 but saying its not about the money. Just saying
Alright, I'm listening. Do you have a concern I haven't addressed regarding my content?
Love ya man, and I hear what you're saying. Some, like I, remember what Darren did. 15 or 16 multi flavor reviews on Sundays which I always enjoyed and compared to my own notes. It was so popular that he no longer publishes freely, but has joined the crew and that info is now behind the paywall (I wonder if the concentrates are now being sponsored by the site/paywall seeing as the published info is). #sadface.
I looked forward to your MM articles as much as his on Sundays, and while you have every intention on continuing to publish here when life's not getting in the way, I also worry you'll be tempted to be part of that 'elite' crew (which you should be).
One thing I have noticed, and hope to learn from, is that there seems to be an air of "exclusivity" to my site. This is an unintended result of having tons of content that's for members only, and the fact that there's not really many other options. In terms of content and media, there's really only one place to go. Where else can you get hours of podcasts and videos and "produced" articles strictly for DIYmixing? And to those who either don't enjoy the content, or don't want to become a member, or don't engage with its community, they start to feel as if they're being left out.
I see comments where the term "elitist" is used and that's not the intention. I've said this many times before, but I work for the members. I create content specific to them, cater to them, and they are my number one priority. I can see where some might see the community as "elitist", because they're the ones that the content revolves around. Other content creators reach out to DIYorDIE because, again, there's really no other options for them to go to, and there's such a strong community around it. And until there are other options out there, which I do know some are trying to do, that feeling will remain. I'm actively aware of this and trying to figure out ways to work it out better.
Ok, I understand it could feel like I'm trying to move them to a platform where I will make money. That's not happening. Ever.
If it makes you feel any better, I've always been a part of DoD. There are absolutely zero plans to monetize Modest Monday.
This is about pretty pictures, fixing grammar and syntax, and better organization.
As a matter of fact, Modest Monday only lasted this long because of DIYorDie. I needed fresh content on a weekly basis for the Beginner Blending podcast.