Howdy, mixers! Friendly neighborhood junior moderator here with a plan to give brand-new mixers a head start and highlight some of our favorite simple recipes.
The "First Order Flavors" list is in need of an update. It's based on a survey from over 9 months ago, which is at least a couple of years in DIY time. How many new flavors have been introduced or "discovered" since then? How many new mixers and new recipes have been created since then?
But it's also got a fundamental flaw in addition to being out of date. We are telling first-time mixers to order these flavors, but we're not telling them what to make with them. So we're creating a bunch of "what can I make with these flavors?" posts or, if people are too independent or shy to ask for help, some real work and real headaches for people who should just be experiencing the simplicity, joy, and financial benefit of making their own e-juice for the first time, not struggling with which % of which flavors to combine in their very first few bottles.
So here's the deal. Same general type of contest-mode thread as this one, but with a twist.
Along with each flavor you suggest for the new "My First Order" list, please suggest a previously published (here, or on ATF or ELR) and praised simple recipe (5 flavors maximum, but remember, the goal is simple, 2 or 3 or 4 flavor recipes would be even better), along with a list of flavors used in that recipe. Each and every one of these flavors used in these recipes should be flavors that you'd expect to find on a list of first-order flavors - we want to give new mixers the most versatile flavors that can be used to make a variety of great recipes, not flavors that they'll only use in one thing and then not know what to do with. Think of it this way: You're nominating the flavor. The recipe(s) offered is to make your case for including this flavor. We're not voting for recipe of the year, here. We're voting for recipes that should be mentioned alongside Mustard Milk when someone who's never ordered a flavor before wants to know what they should order and what they can make with what they order.
The format is "Manufacturer, Flavor, Recipe by RecipeCreator with Link To Recipe, List of Other ingredients in Recipe." For example, if I wanted to suggest that FA Kiwi should be on such a list, along with Coop's Kiwi Bourbon recipe, I'd post, "FA Kiwi. Coop's Kiwi Bourbon by /u/Coop34. FA Kiwi, TFA Kentucky Bourbon, TFA Toasted Marshmallow."
All top-level posts should have this format or will be removed, but replies to the posts are encouraged and can be whatever you want to say that doesn't otherwise break some kind of rule such as the one about instigating violence.
Post as many flavors as you like (separately, not in one comment), with as many qualifying recipes for each flavor as you want to share. Make the case that this is a flavor that should be on every newbie's first order because of how many simple, delicious recipes you can make with it and other "universal" flavors.
If someone has already posted your flavor, but you have a different recipe, post the flavor again with the recipe of your choice.
The contest mode will be enabled until I go 72 hours without any top level responses, and then I'll unveil the voting results and create a My First Order + My First Recipe post for the sidebar: 30 top flavors, along with as many recipes as we can get that use only those flavors. Yes, that means if your recipes include flavors that don't make the top 30, they won't be on the list. Each vote for flavor is a vote for each of the flavors used in the recipes posted along with it.
Thank you for participating and helping new mixers. I love you all. I'll also make a stickied comment for feedback (so you can tell me what a stupid idea this, how stupid I am, etc).
TFA Strawberry Ripe, Best Damn Pink Lemonade by /u/Vurve
- LA Lemonade
- TFA Raspberry Sweet
- TFA Strawberry Ripe
- FA Lemon Sicily
That'll do. I wanted to have one flavor listed first but it really does not matter, because each mention + upvote is a vote for all the flavors listed.
Ah. Gotcha I have a bad habit of just skimming through posts. I'll Change it no problem.
I have no idea how stiff the "competition" for this will be, but if you want to improve Best Damn Pink Lemonade by /u/Vurve's chances, make separate posts for any other simple recipes with feedback that you like or can find that use LA Lemonade, Raspberry Sweet, Strawberry Ripe, or FA Lemon Sicily.
Oohh that sounds really good
It really is. I mixed up some of this to throw around the vapers at the office and see if we liked it a few weeks ago.
We likes it so much I've been mixing it non-action for us since then. Just mixed myself 120mls of it just yesterday!
TFA Dragonfruit. Mother of Dragons' Milk by /u/ID10-T. TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Bavarian Cream, and TFA Vanilla Swirl.
TFA Strawberry. Mustard Milk by /u/Fizzmustard. TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
God Milk by /u/Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry Ripe. TFA Bavarian Cream. TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust. TFA Dragonfruit.
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Nana Cream Clone by /u/Fizzmustard. LA Banana Cream. TFA Dragonfruit.
FFS just typed out the exact same post sans God Milk lol.
I have now idea how much "competition" we're facing here, but I'm pretty sure Mustard Milk and Nana Cream Clone are going to make the cut regardless. However, if you want to improve their chances, find other simple recipes with feedback that use TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, LA Banana Cream, and TFA Dragonfruit and post those.
TFA Strawberry Ripe.
Best Damn Pink Lemonade by /u/Vurve. LA Lemonade, TFA Raspberry Sweet, TFA Strawberry Ripe, FA Lemon Sicily.
God Milk by /u/Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry. TFA Bavarian Cream. TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust. TFA Dragonfruit.
Mother of Dragons' Milk by me. TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Cliche by /u/Skiddlzninja FA Forest Fruit, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Raspberry Sweet, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
Strawberry Cookie by /u/EdibleMalfunction. CAP Sugar Cookie, CAP Sweet Strawberry.
Wapple by thomaschirafisi. INW Cactus, FA Fuji, TFA Marshmallow, LA Watermelon.
TFA Bavarian Cream.
God Milk by /u/Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust.
Mother of Dragons' Milk by me. TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Peaches & Cream by /u/Vurve FA Meringue, FA Peach White, TFA Peach Juicy, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Serially Easy Lemon Bar by /u/Skiddlzninja. CAP Graham Cracker, CAP Italian Lemon Sicily.
FA Fuji
Fuji Pear Recipe by /u/xDue2Lose FA Fuji, TPA Pear, Sweetener is not needed and neither is the crockpot steeping
Wapple by ThomasChirafisi (probably can be made without the cactus) INW Cactus, FA Fuji, TPA Marshmallow, TPA Strawberry (ripe), LA Watermelon
Simple Apple Fritter by /u/drumbtr TPA Bavarian Cream, FA Fuji, CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl, TFA Dragonfruit
Also if anybody wants to expand this with other simple recipes that use Fuji as a prominent flavor, feel free.
I'm a beginner myself so I have no idea if these recipes are 'balanced' like the ones the rest of you do you... But I have used Fuji in a couple of very basic mixes and been very happy with the results!
Mixed at max VG, so may need to lower for PG mixes -
Strawapple:
8% TFA strawberry (Ripe) 4% FA Fuji
Kiwappleberry:
4% FA Kiwi 4% FA Fuji 6% TFA Strawberry (Ripe)
Standalone: 6%
Fuji is an awesome standalone flavor, it's very full, as well as a second use for adding sweetness or boosting fruits much like Dragonfruit. Even throwing it in like 4% LA Lemonade makes a great green apple lemonade.
Those recipes look great BTW! Keep up the mixing my dude!
TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream. Cliche by /u/Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry Ripe, FA Forest Fruit, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Raspberry Sweet.
Mustard Milk by /u/Fizzmustard. TFA Strawberry.
Ginger Sauce by /u/SleepersDemon. CAP Vanilla Custard, CAP New York Cheesecake, CAP Sweet Cream, CAP Graham Cracker.
TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, Frosted Lemonade by /u/ID10-T
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1% FA Fresh Cream
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1.88% INW Lemon
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0.63% INW Lemon Mix
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4% TPA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
I can't upvote this. I'm proud of that recipe but I'm just not sure about those INW lemon flavors as "new mixer" flavors and if the goal is versatile flavors, what else are they going to do with them besides make my other lemonade recipe? But leave it, because it counts as votes for TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream and FA Fresh Cream too.
Just bought those lemons about a week ago and mixed up Frosted Lemonade. I'd trade all my Strawberry flavors for those 2 lemons if I had the chance to do it again.
Vote it up if you want it on the list. I just couldn't do it despite feeling the same as you about countless strawberries vs those two lemons, because strawberries give noobs a lot of things they can mix. It's my bad, really, for not coming up with more lemon recipes yet. We'll have to revisit this again in 6 to 12 months, how about by then YOU have a recipe or two using those INW lemons that can go on a list such as this?
VBIC was the first flavor i ordered in a size larger than 30ml. it pairs with damn near any fruit and is a great with cakes, creams, and fruits. lately i've just been mixing with just one other fruit. Billberry, pineapple, strawberry ripe, i'm waiting for FA White peach to arrive so i can see how well it pairs with that.
Post more VBIC recipes here!
well see what had happened was... i was bored waiting for my gf one day and i made up a couple of 10 ml testers with vbic at 3% and random fruits at whatever the most common single flavor percentage was. i didn't take notes because i figured it's been done before and really i was just doing it for shiggles. i do remember FA Pomegranate showing promise but needed more but i finished the bottle with that mix and haven't ordered anymore. VBIC and LA watermelon was weird. not in a bad way but in a i don't think i want to make that again way. when my pg/vg restock gets here i'll probably try it again.
CAP Vanilla Custard V1. Custody by /u/goldfish18 . CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Vanilla Swirl, and CAP NY Cheesecake (FLV Coconut is not mandatory).
I have no idea how stiff the "competition" for this will be, but if you want to improve Custody's chances of being included, make separate posts for any other simple recipes with feedback that you like or can find that use CAP Vanilla Custard V1, TFA Vanilla Swirl, or CAP NY Cheesecake.
TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust.
God Milk by /u/Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Dragonfruit.
Coop's Kiwi Cheesecake by /u/Coop34 FA Kiwi, FA Meringue.
LA Banana Cream.
Nana Cream Clone by Fizzmustard. TFA Strawberry, TFA Dragonfruit.
Vanilla Wafer with Banana Pudding by /u/Vurve. TFA Banana Cream, FA Meringue, CAP Sugar Cookie, TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Spiked Nanner by /u/Philosaphucker FA banana, INW Cactus, INW Pear.
Snake Eyes Remix by me. CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl, TFA Bavarian Cream, FA Coconut, TFA Coconut.
TFA Pear.
Honey Pearry clone (first one in OP). TFA Honeydew, TFA Strawberry.
Strawpearry clone attempt. TFA Strawberry
Pear VBIC (I don't remember where I found this). TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
CAP Sugar Cookie
Simple Sugar Cookie CAP Vanilla Custard.
Milk and Sugar Cookies FA Cookie, FLV Cream, FA Meringue, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Snickerdoodle Cookie CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl, TFA Marshmallow, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Strawberry Sugar Cookie TFA Strawberry Ripe, CAP Sweet Strawberry.
I was going to get around to nominating CAP Sugar Cookie with these recipes soon if someone didn't beat me to it. I simply cannot believe that CAP Sugar Cookie is not currently on the "My First Order" list. Ridiculous!
TFA Dragonfruit.
God Milk by Skiddlzninja. TFA Strawberry, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust.
Mother Of Dragons' Milk by me. TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Nana Cream Clone by Fizzmustard. LA Banana Cream, TFA Strawberry.
TheHimCatself by /u/matthewkocanda. FA Fuji, TFA Pineapple, CAP Golden Pineapple, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
FA Fuji.
Timebomb by Dazcole FA Oba Oba, TFA Peach Juicy, CAP Sweet Strawberry.
Apple Bacco by Sad Panda Vape. TFA RY4 Double, CAP Vanilla Custard, FW Butterscotch Ripple, TFA EM.
Strap-On by me. FA Strawberry, FA Watermelon.
The HimCatself by CokeCan TFA Dragonfruit, CAP Golden Pineapple, TFA Pineapple, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
Wapple by thomaschirafisi INW Cactus, TFA Marshmallow, TFA Strawberry Ripe, LA Watermelon.
One Night by /u/Philosaphucker INW Pineapple, INW Cactus, CAP Golden Pineapple, FA BlackCurrant.
Simple Grapple by Chrisdvr1 INW Sparkling Wine.
Whatever Forever by /u/Matthewkocanda. FW Butterscotch Ripple, FA White Peach, JF Honey Peach, CAP Vanilla Cupcake.
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Sparkling Apple Peach Wine by Shaner FA Vienna Cream, FA White Peach, FA Wine Champagne.
Sparkling Apple Peach Wine by Shaner FA Vienna Cream, FA White Peach, FA Wine Champagne
CAP Sugar Cookie.
Simple Sugar Cookie by me. CAP Vanilla Custard.
Milk and Sugar Cookies by /u/Vurve FA Cookie, FLV Cream, FA Meringue, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Snickerdoodle Cookie by me CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl, TFA Marshmallow, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Vanilla Wafer Banana Pudding by Vurve TFA Banana Cream, LA Banana Cream, FA Meringue, TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Strawberry Cookie by /u/ediblemalfunction TFA Strawberry Ripe, CAP Sweet Strawberry.
FA Kiwi.
Coop's Kiwi Cheesecake by /u/Coop34. TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, FA Meringue
Coop's Kiwi Bourbon TFA Kentucky Bourbon, TFA Toasted Marshmallow.
FA Lemon Sicily.
Best Damn Pink Lemonade by Vurve LA Lemonade, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Raspberry Sweet.
Backwoods Lemonade by /u/EdibleMalfunction LA Lemonade, FA Forest Fruit.
TFA Vanilla Swirl.
Mother of Dragons' Milk by me TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Dragonfruit.
Custody by /u/Goldfish18 CAP Vanilla Custard V1, CAP New York Cheesecake (FLV Coconut is not required).
Vanilla Wafer Banana Pudding by /u/Vurve LA Banana Cream, TFA Banana Cream, FA Meringue, CAP Sugar Cookie.
Custard King by James TFA Sweet Cream, TFA RY4 Double
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Not only does that one have too many ingredients to be considered a simple recipe, but it requires TFA Butter, which probably, in my opinion, isn't a must-have flavor. You're right about INW Biscuit though, it's a staple, I'll look for some simplier recipes that use it. And that recipe is one that everyone should try at some point; I suspect it won't take new mixers long to discover ATF's most popular recipe of all time get whatever stuff they still need to make it that wasn't on the first order, if the profile interests them.
Yessir, I knew it was outside the limits and I was searching for some others that used Biscuit and couldn't seem to find any but I seem to need it all the time!! Maybe just the profile that I chase after or something who the hell knows.
https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/3qsq5s/i_dont_know_that_i_can_get_it_much_better_but_its/
I know Sugar Cookie, Meringue, and Biscuit belong --- but do you think FA Joy should be on a list of first-timer flavors, or is essentially another TFA Butter... more like a second-order flavor?
INW Am4a
FA Almond, FA Caramel, FA MTS Vape Wizard
Do you have any other easy tobacco recipes to add? We need some on here and that is a good one, but I'm not sure how well this one will fare because although Almond and Caramel are staples, I'm not sure about MTS Vape Wizard on a list of first-orders.
/u/BobbySavage , /u/T_mace - you guys have any other tobacco recipes to add that would be good for brand-new mixers? Or do you just wanna come upvote this one? Somehow tobacco needs to be represented on this list, don't you think? It's possible that the only way to make sure that happens is for tobacco heads to band together.
I'll add Pistachio RY4. The major problem is that unless the new mixer is a serious tobacco lover, none of the flavs I would recommend would suit them. They're all somewhat obscure and fairly unusable for any application besides tobacco. So I'm adding PRY4 cuz it's the only one I vape aside from Marble 27 that uses flavorings that cross over into the dessert category.
Maybe a "First Order For Hardcore Tobacco Heads" post needs to be put together. I can start working on that, surely the rest of the heads will have things to add as well.
That is very true. That's why there's no tobacco on the current "My First Order" list. Just not a broad enough appeal. But, at least, /u/BobbySavage 's epic beginner's guide is immortalized in the sidebar ABOVE the MFO list, and it does address tobacco in the post and the comments. Plus there's the tobacco compilation review now in the flavor review wiki as well... and we can hope that anyone who hopes to join the ranks of DIY hardcore tobacco heads would be intrepid enough to go looking for that and find it.
/u/ChemicalBurnVictim
Most of my tobacco recipes include things like FA Black Fire or Latakia, which I think could also be some tricky ones for new mixers. A little too much and it's all ruined. I only have one of my own recipes that uses RY4 Double, which is probably a good beginner flavor, but I don't have it anywhere other than a Reddit comment. Unless that would be fine?
TPA RY4 Double
TPA Pistachio
TPA Vanilla Swirl
CAP Sugar Cookie
FW Butterscotch Ripple
(TPA Sweetener - doesn't count ;)
http://diyordievaping.com/2016/03/04/the-new-pistachio-ry4u-recipe/
/u/ID10-T, this has 6 flavors tho, should I post the old one instead?
Yeah, post the old one. Or we can pretend that Sweetener doesn't count as a flavor.
The new one is better so with your blessing I'll leave it and we'll go with the sweetener logic :)
I don't think it's going to win anyway. There just aren't enough other good recipes using it to call it a versatile, MFO list kind of flavor. Trying to get people the most easy recipes with the fewest ingredients.
Add the other flavors in PRY4 to your comment when you get a chance. It'll make it easier to count up at the end and it will count as votes for those other flavors too.
FA Coconut.
Snake Oil My Way by me. TFA Pear, TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Coconut, FA Pear.
Snake Eyes Remix by me TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Coconut, LA Banana Cream, CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl.
TFA Raspberry Sweet.
Best Damn Pink Lemonade by Vurve. LA Lemonade, FA Lemon Sicily, TFA Strawberry Ripe.
Cliche by Skiddlzninja FA Forest Fruit, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
Raspberry Custard by Coop34 INW Raspberry, CAP Vanilla Custard, FA Meringue, FA Cream Fresh, FA Apple Pie.
FA Forest Fruit.
Berry Creamy by /u/CheebaSteeba FLV Cream, TFA Marshmallow.
Cliche by Skiddlzninja FA Cream Fresh, TFA Rasberry Sweet, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream
Backwoods Lemonade by EdibleMalfunction LA Lemonade, FA Lemon Sicly.
FA Cream Fresh.
Cliche by Skiddlzninja. FA Forest Fruit, TFA Raspberry Sweet, TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.
CAP Sweet Strawberry.
Strawberry Cookie by Ediblemalfunction CAP Sugar Cooke, TFA Strawbery Ripe.
Timebomb by Dazcole FA Fuji, FA Oba Oba, TFA Peach Juicy.
BIB by DuderMcCruder CAP Vanilla Custard, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, TFA Strawberry Ripe, FA Caramel.
TFA strawberry ripe strawberryfog by spectrometer
TFA Vanilla custard, TFA Bavarian cream, TFA strawberry ripe, TFA cheesecake graham crust
CAP Sweet Strawberry
Strawberry Sugar Cookie TFA Strawberry Ripe, CAP Sugar Cookie
A shameless vote for my favorite strawberry flavor more or less
This is a shame-free zone. I don't know how much competition there will be. It could be that just being mentioned once here is enough. But to increase CAP Sweet Strawberry's chance of success, see if you can find some other simple yet delicious CAP Sweet Strawberry recipes to post.
FA Strawberry (Red Touch).
Bawlin Berry by /u/Samsoundrocks. FA Kiwi, Cap Vanilla Custard V1
Ultra Strawberry by /u/SamsoundRocks. FA Kiwi, TFA Strawberry Ripe, CAP Sweet Strawberry. (CAP or other Vanilla Whipped Cream is optional.)
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Too many flavors with too few other uses (FA Black Cherry?) to go on this kind of very short list of first-order flavors and simple recipes to update the "My First Order" list in the sidebar. But Pebbles will always come up every time someone mentions cereal. It will probably be recipe of the year or at the very least be in the running for that. It will get plenty of exposure for people on the hunt for a good cereal vape to find it. People probably have, and probably will, start doing DIY just to make it.
Fruit rings. Yuck.
Isn't it crazy that CAP Sugar COokie isn't on the current MFO list? How did that even happen?
Yeah i see what you mean!
I used to vape
4% Cheescake Graham Crust (TPA)
2% French Vanilla Creme (TPA)
8% Fruit Circles (TPA)
6% Marshmallow (TPA)
2% Vanilla Swirl (TPA)
for the first 2 months i started mixing it smelled like i just mopped my floor.
(Edit) found i actually posted the recipe haha. sorry if you mixed it up fellas, i was an still am a noob.
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TFA Pear.
Snake Oil My Way by me FA Pear, TFA Bavarian Cream, FA Coconut, TFA Coconut.
Melonious Thunk by Zwermp LA Watermelon, TFA Honeydew, CAP Cantaloupe, TFA Marshmallow.
Pearadise by Wafflepriest TFA Pineapple, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Coconut Extra.
Pearapple by /u/CheebaSteeba TFA Pineapple, INW Pineapple, EM, TFA Quince
Easy to Please by /u/xDue2Lose FA Fuji.
Honey Pear by me TFA Honeydew, TFA Strawberry, TFA Honeysuckle
Katy Pearry by me TFA Honeydew, TFA Honeysuckle, TFA Juicy Peach
FA Kiwi
http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/1044805/StrawKiMelon+3 TFA Strawberry, TFA Marshmallow, TFA Watermelon.
https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/9719#blue_kiwapple_a_clone_of_keen_by_classified_e_liquids_by_sumoldcant TFA Apple, FA Bilberry, TFA Blueberry Extra, TFA Cotton Candy
INW Cactus.
Spiked Nanner by /u/Philosaphucker. FA Banana, LA Banana Cream, INW Pear.
Wapple by thomaschirafisi. FA Fuji, TFA Marshmallow, TFA Strawberry Ripe, LA Watermelon.
One Night by /u/Philosaphucker. FA Blackcurrant, FA Fuji, CAP Golden Pineapple, INW Pineapple.
Antonie by /u/NotCharlesManson INW Anton Apple, INW Dragonfruit, INW Lime.
LA Watermelon.
Somnambulist by /u/Loco_Mojo. FA Fuji, INW Pineapple, TFA Strawberry.
Laylow Lemonade by Loco_Mojo FW Natural Lemonade, CAP Italian Lemon Sicily, TFA EM, TFA Strawberry Ripe.
Stunner by /u/Philosaphucker INW Cactus, FA Papaya, FLV Pink Guava, JF Sweet Strawberry.
melonius thunk by zwermp CAP Cantaloupe, TFA Honeydew, TFA Marshmallow, TFA Pear.
Wapple by thomaschirafisi INW Cactus, FA Fuji, TFA Marshmallow, TFA Strawberry Ripe.
Thugger Juice by /u/Tranceinate. INW Cactus, FA Fuji, INW Grape, TFA menthol.
Watermelon Cucumber Mint by thomaschirafisi INW Cactus, CAP Cool Mint, TFA Cucumber, Koolada.
Here's a sticky comment for feedback. Thoughts? Questions? Concerns? Reply to this comment and leave top-level comments for first-order flavors & recipes to go with them.
Great idea. I'll have to wait until tonite to post. What if the full recipe is just dropped here, without linking? Some dinosaurs still prefer the calculator on their desktop:)
Thanks. I'm really looking for recipes that multiple people have tried and will vouch for, not brand-new recipes created for this purpose. So, there should be something to link to SOMEWHERE.
But, if you just want to post the recipe, go for it. If enough people try it and upvote it, it'll get included. Maybe wait until /u/kirkt posts the December recipe thread, post it there, and link to that?
So, are we, as mixers/users, supposed to upvote what we think should be included? Or will the mods just tally-up the number of times a flavor has been mentioned in their own post? I see TFA Strawberry Ripe being posted a couple of times, but should I upvote both of them?
I really should have taken the time to figure out a way to make this clearer, more concise, and easier. But you have gotten the gist of it, I think.
Upvote all the nominations of Strawberry Ripe (for example) that include recipes that you think should be recommended to first-time mixers. Don't upvote ones that include recipes that you don't think should be on that list.
When it's all said and done, I'll tally up every mention of every ingredient here, add 1 upvote = 1 point, and keep the top 30. Then I'll list every recipe posted here that you can make using only those 30 flavors, and then I'll update the "My First Order" list to include both "My First Order" and "My First Recipes."
Was this explanation helpful? Do you think I should edit this post to include this clarification?
Ah, ok, that's more clear. This is a complicated endeavor, so don't feel at all bad in any way if things need more clarification.
Adding up both number of times a flavor is posted, along with how many upvotes that flavor has received is a daunting task! I wonder if there is a way to simplify the tallying-up... like, instead of counting both mentions and upvotes, we can just relegate it to one or the other? Just thinking of not only simplifying the process for users, but also for the mods who are doing the counting in the end...
Edit: if it does come to choosing to count either mentions or upvotes, I suggest upvotes, as it is the easiest way the community can give their input on a flavor.
Edit2: oops, I see that's exactly what you're going to do!
There's some good stuff in here so far.
Yes there is, I just wish I'd made the post easier to understand, maybe thought of a simpler way of doing it.
Someone brought up a point via PM, that "It's a lot of work to find and include the recipes."
It is a lot of work to find and include the recipes!!! And yet, we expect someone who has never done this before to go do it for themselves???
Seeing the rise of popularity with simpler recipes again, I feel like we need to get a community vetted list of simple recipes again and not just "first order recipes". It would also be nice to make it clear that people should experiment with the percentages to get a liquid where they want it to be - everyone has slightly different vaping setups.
You don't think this post from three months ago is recent enough? It hasn't been archived yet & can still be commented on, so I think it's recent enough... Once it is six months old I think it will definitely be time for someone to revisit this topic.
Yep, I agree, about the importance and benefit of customizing your juice to fit your own tastes and setup. That should be made clear to beginners in any guide they read. I might figure out how to mention it in the updated "my first order/my first recipes" once this thing is done.
I don't know how much difference all of this is going to make, if any. Are first-time mixers really going to look at this list, order these flavors, and make these recipes? Or is a great majority of them still going to go to Wizard Labs, order a seemly bizarre hodgepodge of flavors, and then post "what can I make with this?" or worse, go at it alone, get discouraged, and give up? Only time will tell. But it's worth a shot, right?
Thanks for pointing out that thread, I must have missed it even though I browse the sub regularly. Still, I think the better way of doing it would be to collect those recipes and make a better organized post with links to ATF and/or ELR.
As for your question, I do think it's worth a shot. One thing to keep in mind is that simpler recipes are a good way of conveying what flavors work well together, and what is a good starting point to determining how much should be used. IMO most people who DIY aren't interested in trying to come up with original recipes, they are here to make good tasting e-liquids for cheap. When I first started mixing I definitely read the shit out of this sub before starting at all, so I would say it'll definitely help and reward those who choose to do their research - it doesn't mean it'll magically make the other type of people just dive in think otherwise.
Ninja Edit: Also, if you need help doing to busy work of putting those recipes into ELR or ATF, I would be willing to help.
Awesome initiative !
I'm always more excited to mix simple stuff than complex one as i feel like tweaking it will give me more knowledge and understandings of flavors that i'm using. I guess it's a beginner thing to say but it's really helpful ! Thanks
Thank you! Please vote for the flavors & recipes that you think are best for beginners and don't vote for the ones you don't think should be on the short list.
Nah, I get excited about simpler stuff too. Mostly because I look at them and see so many possibilities in them.
LA Lemonade.
Best Damn Pink Lemonade by Vurve TFA Strawberry Ripe, TFA Raspberry Sweet, FA Lemon Sicily.
Backwoods Lemonade by /u/EdibleMalfunction FA Lemon Sicily, FA Forest Fruit
Hearts Alive by /u/LocoMojo FA Blackcurrant, FW Blueberry, CAP Italian Lemon Siciy, TFA Sweetener.
FA Vienna Cream.
Caramel Apple by /u/Cloudstatevapor FA Fuji, FA Caramel, FA Butterscotch
TFA Marshmallow.
Berry Creamy by /u/cheebasteeba. FLV Cream, FA Forest Fruit.
Melon Mix by /u/cheebasteeba FLV Cream, FLV Cantelope, FLV Wild Melon.
Snickerdoodle Cookie by me CAP Sugar Cookie, CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl, CAP Vanilla Custard.
melonius Thunk by Zwermp TFA Honeydew, CAP Canteloupe, TFA Pear, LA Watermelon.
Wapple by thomaschirafisi. INW Cactus, FA Fuji, TFA Strawberry Ripe, LA Watermelon.
Custard Cream by bombardies TFA Bavarian Cream, FA Cream Fresh, TFA Sweet Cream, CAP Vanilla Custard.
Turtle I by /u/queuetue TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Coconut Extra, TFA Peach Juicy.