The Chocolate we are all looking for, but can't seem to figure out.

submitted almost 9 years ago by DrStore

Chocolate. I'm looking for chocolate. But not just any chocolate, the one that seems to have everyone stumped.

It's a clear chocolate, at first I thought it was double chocolate clear but it's not that one, because I have double choc clear and though it's close, it's not that one.

I've recently tasted it in a commercial juice, but that juice is so close to crystal clear, so it can't be any chocolate I've mixed with.

I'm certain it's the one that got Wayne stumped. I'm pretty sure they use it in OHW - my man and Golden Ticket.

I'm hoping that everyone can put their knowledge on chocolate here. It's like this hybrid chocolate that tastes like INW Milk Chocolate and Double Chocolate clear. It's so close to chocolate Nesquick that you might drink it.

I hope someone can help me figure out what this chocolate is?

TL;DR I'm looking for the one chocolate that they use in golden ticket, that nobody has figured out yet.

Comments

9 points

by trecentersalmost 9 years ago

Yep, what you are looking for is called sweetener. LOL

Seriously though... You mix those two chocolates at the right percentage.. then add a good amount of the right sweeteners.

Then its a matter of getting the right Cremes / Custards to compensate for that "thick" "fullness" ..

My suggestion is to try out the vanilla custards and try out some cremes/ ice creams and some marshmallows / meringue .. don't use any of them unless you like their taste standalone...

That had always been my problem. I would add stuff to juice I didn't care for thinking it would combine and be alright.

Heck, If you like Butter flavor, then add some of that...

I use 4% TFA Peanut Butter in my chocolates, and then 1% CAP Vanilla Custard. It kills out that dry nutty taste and leaves that creamy butter feel.

The biggest ingredient in store juice is not sucrolose, that is the second. The biggest ingredient is all of them fancy labels and words. The power of suggestion that something tastes like X food. Sugar Pills man, placebo effect....

4 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

The thing is Ive tried all the above mentioned techniques and ratios. Hell I've even gone to 5 percent sucrolose. But the chocolate isn't that same, its weird but the closest I have tasted is Double Chocolate (clear) but even then its not the same one. I know Wayne has been searching for ages for the chocolate. He even made a post about it.

4 points

by trecentersalmost 9 years ago

Maybe so man, I started to venture out to china a few days ago. Hangsen is not their only concentrate maker.

I chickened out...

Maybe I will try it sometime, but every time I think about it the words LEAD PAINT run through my head.

3 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

I would have chickened out as well. I'm also venturing out in hopes to find the chocolate, but I just don't want to get to the point where I spend every penny I have and find the chocolate or never find it. I was hoping this subreddit would have answers or atleast be able to narrow it down. There is this local juice that I'm so addicted to and its a chocolate milk and its crystal clear, even after 2 weeks.

Yet I tried to clone it with DCC and mine steeped to a pink tint of a colour.

4 points

by Choodiealmost 9 years ago

INW Milk Chocolate with some fudge brownies ?

3 points

by loftycustomsalmost 9 years ago

Do those two juices gunk up coils fast?

2 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

The local juice in my country didnt, because we don't really use sucrolose. but if golden ticket or My man does, then im inclined to say its the sucrolose and not the flavour.

8 points

by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

There's definitely sucralose in One Hit Wonder. A lot of it.

3 points

by mully_mayhemalmost 9 years ago

I haven't tried any of the juices you mentioned but Juicefactory's Chocolate Truffle is hands down the best chocolate flavour ever, it is better than any other chocolate I've tried, it's really strong so it only needs to be used at 1-2%.

5 points

by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Can you give us a link to that one please? Sounds great.

2 points

by mully_mayhemalmost 9 years ago

Sure thing, I emailed them earlier and it will be back in stock within the next week or so. http://www.juicefactory.com.au/jf-gourmet-chocolate-truffle-super-concentrate/

2 points

by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Thanks! Never heard of them before. You tried their other stuff?

3 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

I thought it might be Medicine Flower at the right percentages, but I can't confirm this as it isn't available where I live.

3 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

To add to this, Ive even considered it being a white chocolate like TFA with FA Cocoa, but haven't tested this theory.

5 points

by InfinityFractalalmost 9 years ago

INW Milk Chocolate

3 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

Nope, tried that. It's not chocolatey enough.

4 points

by Paleone123almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

You would know if it was FA Cocoa, it would be dark and ruin coils.

2 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

I received FA Cocoa in the mail about an hour ago. I can confirm it's way too dark.

3 points

by cpmerrillalmost 9 years ago

I would try adding a coffee or espresso flavor at a low percentage. In cooking it helps bring out a more robust chocolate flavor. Then balance it out with some creams if you're looking for a chocolate milk flavor

3 points

by aelweroalmost 9 years ago

Nature's flavors chocolates have the "drinkable" smell you describe. Both white and dark chocolates have it, with the dark being a bit more "coffee-ish", but essentially the same flavor

2 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

Can you confirm if the concentrates are clear or is it also that dark coffee bean colour?

2 points

by aelweroalmost 9 years ago

Yes. Both are clear. Not familiar with everything they have available, because I only grabbed a handful to try the brand and it wasn't for me (too much. Their chai especially is insane strong, I can't vape it even at a drop per 30ml), but every single flavor I got from them is clear, including plain and white chocolate.

3 points

by simpleone234almost 9 years agoMixologist

Boston Cream Pie v2 Capella. Best chocolate out there. Milky and creamy, not burnt tasting. It is dark however, so it's unlikely to be the chocolate you are referencing. Best luck to you.

1 points

by MyLegsHurtalmost 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

What % are you using with that? I have v1 but never got around to trying it.

2 points

by simpleone234almost 9 years agoMixologist

It's a forgiving flavor. I use it around 3% but you can go higher or lower depending on what you're making. It's not a heavy flavor, so add more if needed.

1 points

by MyLegsHurtalmost 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

Thank you!

3 points

by IceEichelalmost 9 years ago

Inw chocolate cream is nice! I use it with inw milk chocolate.

2 points

by seratnealmost 9 years ago

Maybe it's not chocolate. At least not by itself. Have you tried adding Vanillin? Or CAP Simply Vanilla?

1 points

by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

Ive tried it with vanilla. Although you might be on to something. I have been thinking for a while that it might be a white chocolate concentrate that tastes like milk chocolate.

2 points

by VapeQueen214almost 9 years ago

I think they are using TFA double chocolate combined with something else. Flavor west white chocolate kinda has that nesquick type taste, its pretty sweet and really smooth. Tfa's version is really pepper-y to me.

2 points

by RedDread1973almost 9 years ago

TFA Milk Chocolate is completely clear and tastes very good after steep. Might want to try it. Mixed with a cream base and steeped it's quite good.

1 points

by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Capella Double Chocolate?

1 points

by trecentersover 8 years ago

I went and got a 120ml of GT. I was not impressed by the chocolate flavor man. I was enlightened though. You see these clones and remixes out there calling for 4-6% of some chocolate.

GT was super intense sweet. So sweet that I can't deal with it until I have vaped it for some time. I don't drink regular Soda or eat sweet candies either though. Diet Pepsi is waaaay too sweet for me. Diet Coke is alright.

Anyways, This juice is a mixture of sucrolose and EM. Those are prominent. Maybe 2% each? The chocolate is not my favorite chocolate concentrate, whatever it is.

I would have to say that any mix like this has the chocolate at 1% - 2%. is all. I think that Chocolate Concentrate is just not that strong of a concentrate and the intense sweetener is what make people think it has a stronger chocolate,

Anytime I have went 4 - 6%, I have gotten vaper's tongue right away and it even kills the sweetener because it is so bitter.

I think you should get another bottle of GT and taste it.

Think about good chocolate milk, taste it, and see that the whole thing with a good chocolate milk is sugar. Sweetened Milk with a little chocolate/coco added to it.

I know when I make Chocolate Quick mix, I don't add more chocolate because it tastes better with just a little.

Give it a try. Start out at maybe 1% TFA Double and 0.5% INW Milk Choco then put 2% sweetener and 1% EM. See if that doesn't give you a better chocolate taste. Throw the whole 10%-20% of concentrate rule out the window and test it.

-1 points

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