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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of November 28, 2016
submitted almost 9 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by kittenssavedmylifealmost 9 years ago

Just wanted to come in here and say I love you guys and thank you for all the recipes, advice, and guides that are available.

Started DIY'ing mid November. Made a Pistachio Ruyan 4 recipe that was highly recommended and it came out as good as the Charlie Noble I was trying to emulate. Also made a Looper clone. That one was not quite as good, but perhaps its because its still steeping. Believe I used a bit too much marzipan.

Today I made a sucker punch clone and 120ml of a Castle Long clone. they both smell delicious. Very excited to try them.

Best of all, I've pretty much broke even at this point. So far I've made a little over 270ml's of juice and I still have a bunch of nic, pg, vg, and flavors left to experiment and I only spent 100 bucks.

=]

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Welcome to DIY! We're glad you're here. Happy Mixing!

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by vape_accountalmost 9 years ago

> Pistachio Ruyan 4

Link to recipe, please?

Also, glad you're here! Cheers!

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by kittenssavedmylifealmost 9 years ago

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/338758/PISTACHIO+RY4-U+by+%255BENYAWREKLAW%255D

Enjoy! Stuff is delicious. Gonna make another batch in the next week for sure.

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by vape_accountalmost 9 years ago

Thanks for the link!

Turns out it is already queued up to be mixed haha

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by WhoopGamesalmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Hi! I've got a problem with feeling the flavors. I've been using SMPL with Mutation X V4S, dual 26g parallel nichrome coils, 7 wraps on 2.5mm. I had amazing flavor, some of percentages for main notes in the mixes were - 1% TFA Pomegranate Deluxe, 3% TFA Pear, 1% CAP Sweet Strawberry and so on - fairly low, as you can see. Now, I've bought Wismec RX200S, same coils on 60-85 watts - ZERO flavor. I've tried to lower percentages in my recipes, tried higher - nothing works, all I taste - sweeteness with the little hint of the flavor. I've also tried claptons (24g nichrome core, 32g nichrome wrap, 7 wraps over 2.5mm, dual coils), but they give only way hotter vape. For now, I'm planning to vape 2% menthol (5% solution) for couple of days, to kinda reset my taste buds. Maybe, someone has some tips or ideas, what should I do after few days to get my flavor back?

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by thattswhatshesaidalmost 9 years ago

I think cleansing the palate is a great idea. Keep vaping those cleansing flavors (menthol as you mentioned, I personally use Inawera eucalyptus with mint and highly recommend it for so many reasons). Try replacing your build if it's not clean. Traditional palate cleaners are excellent as well- I keep some pickled ginger in the fridge, and smell some coffee when I'm doing long testing sessions. If that doesn't work- simply take a break all together as difficult as that may be. Good luck! Let me know how it goes :)

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by WhoopGamesalmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

Thanks for support, pal :) My build is clean as much it can be clean. Ok, let's wait for few days and see how it goes.

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by thattswhatshesaidalmost 9 years ago

Anytime! Good, just keep narrowing down possible causes. So much of vaping in general is trouble shooting. I was tearing my hair out the first few months... Good luck :)

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by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Reduce the power setting/wattage.

To replicate the vape from your mech look at the voltage when you set your power, 3.8-4.0V will get you in the ballpark of what your mech was producing on a full battery.

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by CheebaSteebaalmost 9 years agoFrugivore

What's the best place to order nicotine titration kits from if you need a lot?

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

I bought mine from BCF. It should last for several tests.

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by CheebaSteebaalmost 9 years agoFrugivore

Oh cool, I didn't realize they carried them, ty

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by Apexifiedalmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

https://www.nicotineriver.com/products/titration-kit

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by CheebaSteebaalmost 9 years agoFrugivore

TY!

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by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

Just received my first order. No nicotine yet, don't have the money until next paycheck. Usually vape 70vg/30pg or 80/20. Any suggestions for recipes? Not sure where to start.

FW Blueberry

CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl

TFA Ripe Strawberry

Cap Sugar Cookie

Cap Vanilla Custard

TFA Banana Cream

TFA Bavarian Cream

FA Marshmallow

INW Shisha Strawberry

INW Shisha Vanilla

TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream

LA Banana Cream

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by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Wait until tomorrow, there should be a new "what recipes can I make..." (cant remember the exact title) thread. Post the flavourings there and people will chime in with their suggestions.

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by Sgmetalalmost 9 years ago

Hey all, been lurking here recently and soaking up as much information as I can. Had a quick question because I've been having a hard time finding the answer through searching.

I am currently using syringes to mix my juice. I plan to move to using a scale, but that's a little ways off time wise. So my question is does using a blunt tip syringe offset the amount of liquid in the syringe. As in say you draw up liquid to a mark of .5ml in a 1ml syringe. When using an 18 gauge 1.5" blunt tip needle on the syringe does it offset it? If so to what amount? I have a feeling it does, but I can't accurately figure it out.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I have a feeling it does too, and that needle gauge variability is probably one of the advantages of mixing by weight, but I honestly don't know if it does or how much it does. Have you tried looking at sources outside of DIY ejuice for the answer? Like asking in a science-related sub or googling about how syringes work?

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by Sgmetalalmost 9 years ago

So I did some research and math and for an 18 gauge 1.5" blunt tip the volume in the shaft rounds out to about .03 ml. But that doesn't account for the space of the bulb of the luer lock. I made /u/skiddlzninja's Cliche today along with some 10ml single flavor test bottles at different concentrations. I drew up the liquid then took the needle tip off and checked the amounts. The results varied from around .03 ml to almost 1ml off from the markings. I'm pretty much going to bite the bullet and buy a scale. That's way too much variance for my taste.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

That sounds like an excellent plan. Make sure you get the kind that doesn't turn itself off as long as it is plugged in.

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by vape_accountalmost 9 years ago

I have a chemistry background and still work in the field.

Syringes and needles definitely have varying "dead space volumes", this is the liquid that lives in the needle as well as the connection points.

A quick way to prove that different tips have different dead space volumes would be to use a scale (sorry, I realize you don't have one yet) and distribute the same registered volume of water into a container sitting on the scale. Use distilled water and assume the density is 1.00 g/mL. You will notice the masses varying from tip to tip. Variance can also be introduced when screwing the needle onto the syringe (do you tighten it all the way down or just until it resists).

You will love mixing with a scale. Much quicker and reproducible. Also, baking will never be the same and you will get consistent, professional results...every time. Cheers!

Edit: Forgot to include some nice side reading about low and high dead space syringes!!!

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by ExplorerUnionalmost 9 years ago

Hey guys so I'm just getting started with this diy stuff and I have ordered the tools and everything! I am going to make my first few batches without Nic just to get the hang of it. So here is my question I don't know how much flavor concentrate to use... I have LorAnn's super strength fruit flavors and for my first one I want to make pineapple and coconut... it comes in a pack of 12 And each bottoms of flavor concentrate is about 3.7ml. So I think these are extremely concentrated and a lot of the sites are saying 15-20 percent should be enough but I think that's too much! What do you guys think! THANKS EVERYONE :)

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by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Not sure if I have the same LA flavorings you're talking about, but I would just start low (1-2%) and work up if you are unsure. You can always add a percent, but you can't really take it out. I probably would not use 15-20% of any single flavor. Maybe 6-8% tops and only if I knew through some research that it wasn't going to get weird. My baseline for most of my flavors is around 3% give or take until I get a feel for them.

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by ExplorerUnionalmost 9 years ago

Thanks I'll try with 5% and see how it goes

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by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

Link us to the recipes and the actual Lorann concentrates you bought. Some of those are actually not safe to vape.

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by Sgmetalalmost 9 years ago

Definitely reply back with the LorAnns flavors you have. Some of them are fine to vape, but several are not safe to vape. I found this list from 2013 that will give you some guidelines. Post the flavors you have here I'm sure some more advanced DIYers will be able to give you more up to date information.

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by ExplorerUnionalmost 9 years ago

[flavors ](LorAnn Oils Gourmet Super Strength Fruit Flavors (No Oils) 1 Dram Variety Bundle #2 (Pack of 12) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00XRQ2N8G/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_q3dsybMX61X4E) < these are the ones I got :)

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by Sgmetalalmost 9 years ago

So I cross references those with the list I posted. The worst the flavors have is food coloring, but really I would move away from loranns outside of the few flavorings that are in popular recipes (banana cream) and try out some The Flavorers Apprentice and similar. TFA is on the cheaper side and makes some good flavors. Check out the side bar for a good basic order.

Cherry - Food Coloring

Coconut - Good

Green Apple - no information

Lemonade - good

Orange cream - food coloring

peach - food coloring

pear - good

pineapple - good

pomegranate - food coloring

strawberry kiwi - good

watermelon - food coloring

tropical punch - good

3 points
 
by Rawkstahralmost 9 years ago

How do you guys store and organize your e juice concentrates??

I have like 60 or so different flavors and I currently just have them all in two gallon size zip lock bags.. Hate searching for the flavor I want and would like some way to organize them so it's easy to pick what I'm needing.

Any one got any good ideas??

Thanks!

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by Gushluvaalmost 9 years agoTobacconist

Nail polish stand/display. You can find them on amazon.

3 points
 
by tlstout65almost 9 years ago

Are there any flavor dispenser companies that have gift cards available? Christmas is right around the corner...

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Bull City Flavors for sure.

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by tlstout65almost 9 years ago

Thank you!

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by usx-tvalmost 9 years ago

Hey guys!

Alright I have an issue with harshness in my mixes. I have tried my vg, pg and nic with no flavours, and noticed little to no harshness. I also tried some strait vg, and nothing.

What am I doing wrong? Maybe too much flavours? A quick example of something I made:

72mg nic, dosed at 3mg 70vg/30pg 8% TFA Sweet Strawberry 3% CAP Banana Split

Breathed for 30 minutes first day, steeped for 5.

Any pointers would be greatly appreciated!

EDIT: Also shaked 3 times a day.

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by thattswhatshesaidalmost 9 years ago

Breathing is unnecessary most of the time, IMO, and most recipes won't benefit from it. People do it for perfumey, or recipes with a strong undesirable alcohol effect, but in my personal experience steeping takes care of everything. I know that's not your question but just wanted to address that.
That recipe seems fine, percentage wise, for those brands. You may be having a bad reaction to them because you have a sensitivity- have you single tested them? Give that a try if you haven't.
Also, are you dripping? I find that when I over drip it rips up my throat.
Good luck- hope something in here can be of use to you :)

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by usx-tvalmost 9 years ago

Hey thanks for the answer!

I let it breath to simply try that out, and you are most likely right, it didn't change much in the result. I am dripping, but have no issues with any other juices I've bought on the market.

Maybe it could be one of the flavours, I'm going to have to try those out I suppose. Thanks for the reply :)

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by Tiptup300almost 9 years ago

I've read that CAP Banana Split can be harsh, no personal experience myself though.

Maybe try a single flavor mix of it?

2 points
 
by Clavisnlalmost 9 years agoMixologist

Hi, I made a few dozen different recipes with strawberry and/or milk flavor. They werent right for me. So i found this one: https://alltheflavors.com/recipes/15504#god_milk_by_skiddlzninja I made it, and it tastes good. But not to my likeing. Anyone have any idea's to get this more creamier/milkyer? Strawberry flavour is good. I will try it with CAP Sweet Strawberry and TFA Ripe Straw. 4/4% or 3/5% when i got my new flasks.

4 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

I came to recommend my go to for this profile, look for "strawberry milks" by /u/thedirtyprojector. I always mix 60v and steep 2 weeks min. Yeah, it is a lot of different flavors, but they are all important, no subbing allowed, and you just need them all anyway:)

Edit: I havent even tried "god milk", so i cant help you there, unless its to say that these kind of mixes need a good steep.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Haha Coop, I told him the same thing when he posted this question outside of the thread and I asked him to move it here.

/u/Clavisn , that's two recommendations for DirtyP's strawberry milks.

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by coop34almost 9 years ago

It is quite good!

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by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Use less Graham Cracker crust and use more creams. Such as FA Cream Fresh, or some custard. Also add a tiny bit of your favourite coconut flavour (0.2%), it will enhance the creaminess.

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by QubeNubalmost 9 years ago

Recently I made a 10ml bottle of Mother of Dragons Milk, which was fantastic. It was about 60vg/40pg.

Now I've made a 50ml batch, but since my PG ran out I only used the PG from my nicotine solution, which after calculations came out at about 80vg/20pg.

It has had 2 weeks steep time by now (same as the other 10ml) but the flavours are really muted. Is this because of the high amount of VG in it?

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by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Could be, yes. If you're used to 60/40, 80/20 might taste a tad muted to you. Maybe /u/ID10-T can help you out more.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I'm really glad you enjoyed the first batch, Qube. Goldfish is right, if you're used to 60/40, 80/20 is probably going to taste muted to you. 70/30 should be fine (that's what I vape), but 80 is really a lot of VG for someone accustomed to 60/40. There are other possibilities (how well did you shake your concentrates before using them? for example. How clean is your coil/cotton? etc) but higher VG is the simplest explanation. Get yourself some more PG.

You could try to "rescue" that 50ml by adding a little more flavor, but I don't know how much to suggest adding because I don't know how much of it you've vaped already.

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by QubeNubalmost 9 years ago

I shook it a couple of times a day for a few days before letting it steep, shared it even more than I usually do. My cotton isn't really clean, but even if I put in another juice without fully cleaning it, that juice still tastes normal.

I think I only vaped about 4-5 ml of that 50ml bottle, so how much would you recommend upping the flavour? Like add 1% of each flavour (that would be 1% of the remaining 45ish ml) or increase the existing amount of flavour by like 10% (which would be 10% of 6% which would result in an added 0.6% of 45ish ml)

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Start fairly slow, because it's easier to add more flavor than to have to dilute it further because you added too much.

Try adding 0.23g each of the Vanilla Swirl, Bavarian Cream, and Strawberry Ripe and 0.79g of the Dragonfruit. Shake until your arm hurts and then go ahead and vape it. Steeping longer (a week should do it) will develop and balance the flavor better (Dragonfruit is too forward at first and it takes time for the Vanilla Swirl to open up), but you should be able to tell from a shake-and-vape whether you've added enough flavor to save that bottle from muted hell. And get some PG!

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by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

Chocolate. I'm looking for chocolate. But not just any chocolate, the one that seems to have everyone stumped. It's a clear chocolate, at first I though double chocolate clear but it's not that one, because I have double choc clear and though it's close, it's not that one. I've recently tasted it in a commercial juice, but that juice is so close to crystal clear, so it can't be any chocolate I've mixed with. I'm certain it's the one that got Wayne stumped. I'm pretty sure they use it in OHW - my man. I'm hoping that everyone can put their knowledge on chocolate here. It's like this hybrid chocolate that tastes like INW Milk Chocolate and Double Chocolate clear. It's so close to chocolate nesquick that you might drink it. I hope someone can help me figure out what this chocolate is?

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

You should make a post for this, get a wider audience than you'll get in the new mixers' questions thread. Or, if you'd rather, I'll make "chocolate" the flavor of the week for the week after next (starting one week from tomorrow) and you can ask it again then.

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by DrStorealmost 9 years ago

Cool, I will make a post now. I think it will be good for the community to get that profile.

2 points
 
by Versatllealmost 9 years ago

Looking into starting to diy any recommendation on some good flavors to start with

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by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

This should give you a decent starting point.

Another thing I've done is just go to a site like Bull City Vapor and sort by "bestselling" and load up on what looks good in those first few pages.

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by ChevelloKDalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Try looking through the flavor reviews in the sidebar. When you find a flavor that sounds good do a search of the sub to see where it's used. I've got a long long list of recipes that I want to try from doing just that. There are probably enough that I'll never get to inventing my own recipes. And I have no problem with that :)

Edit: Flavor REVIEWS not flavor notes

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by robbiepellagreenalmost 9 years ago

Hey all! Got into DIY about a month ago and am loving it! But one thing I haven't been able to figure out is how to give my recipes a more 'wet' flavourful mouth feel if that makes sense? The best way I can describe it is to give reference to northland vapors blue razz juice, it gives a really flavourful, full, cool and moist feel in the mouth which I really like. Any tips on how I can achieve this?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Tiny, tiny amount of INW Cactus. Tiny as in like sub 0.5%. It takes a good while for the Cactus flavor to mellow out if you use too much.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

What /u/EdibleMalfunction said is the number one, go-to, top of the line, answer.

But if for some reason INW Cactus doesn't do it for you (it might clash with or overpower other ingredients even after a steep or just not do what you want it to do), there are other things you can try. TFA Marshmallow and other marshmallow flavors, FA MTS, TFA Smooth, TFA Dragonfruit, TFA Koolada, EM, TFA Honeydew, and Sucralose/Sweetener are also options. You just have to experiment until you find what works for any given recipe.

2 points
 
by MeatHead1313almost 9 years ago

Hi all. I've been diy'ing for a few months now after lurking and researching for a while. Found a few recipes that sounded like something my wife and I would like and went about it. My question is, one recipe called for INW strawberry, and both my wife and I find it to taste like a horrible candy strawberry. We much prefer TFA strawberry ripe and CAP sweet strawberry. Is there anything we can do with the inw to not waste it, or is it pretty much useless if we don't like the flavour?

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by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

> INW strawberry

What % did you use? How long did you steep? I don't have this flavor but someone who does will ask you the same questions.

Also, INW Shisha Strawberry is the preferred strawberry from them and it's pretty popular. If your current INW strawberry doesn't work out, give Shisha Strawberry a try. INW makes some good stuff so don't give up on them.

Here's the ELR page for that flavor. Click on "Notes" to see what other mixers have to say about it.

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/2160

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by Rawkstahralmost 9 years ago

Hey guys, I've been purchasing bottles from Bull City Flavors and all they cell is 10 ml and 30 ml plastic bottles. I'm wanting to purchase 60 and 120 ml bottles for a reasonable price. I'm wanting them plastic with a nozzle similar to the 10 and 30 ml bottles BCF sells. Anyone got suggestions for cheap good plastic 60 and 120 ml bottles like I described?? I don't want glass dripper bottles either.

I purchased two 60 ml Chubby Gorilla bottles from eBay. Not sure if they were the real thing but they were cheap. Well I went to refill the bottle I've been using and I can't get the nozzle off the dang bottle. I suppose it's a one time use?? Here's a link to the one I got.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/321954922130

Anyways, thanks in advance!!

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by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Depends what flavor you want but ECX sells 120mL and more.

http://www.ecigexpress.com/

And ya, the droppers on those Gorillas are really hard to remove without ruining them. If you have nylon pliers, that might work, really just guessing though.

2 points
 
by Apexifiedalmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

That's not cheap. Try here instead. They also have 120ml available.

1 points
 
by TogiraIkonoka0618almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Iv really liked 510 central on Amazon for my placid drip bottles. Not sure if they have those particular bottles in the shape you want but they are usually a decent price

1 points
 
by 882300almost 9 years ago

If you want bottles like BCF sells, go to http://wholesale.heartlandvapes.com/eliquid-bottles/plastic-eliquid-bottles.html

I've used 10, 30, 60 mL. Literally 1000s of them. I have ZERO complaints.

1 points
 
by Rawkstahralmost 9 years ago

Do they sell them in small quantities? Or do you have to buy 100 of them?

1 points
 
by 882300almost 9 years ago

I believe you have to buy them in increments of 100. The price includes bottle, tip, childproof cap. I thought it'd take me forever to use 50 that I bought at BCF, but quickly realized just how fast you can run through 50 bottles. At $0.38 or less each, it's not worth cleaning them.

2 points
 
by halvardralmost 9 years ago

In recipes that call for TFA Green Tea, can I swap that out with FE Green Tea at 0.7%? As in making the Pioneer with GTKK levels

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by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Read the PSA at the bottom of this recipe post. I'm sure /u/exclusivegirl can help you out a bit more than I can.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I just made Pioneer using the original recipe a few days ago and since it's still steeping and I haven't vaped any of it, I can't yet say for sure how much FE Green Tea would be the the right amount to use in place of TFA's just yet. But having tried them both standalone and done a lot of work with FE, I'd say that 1% FE Green Tea is about as strong as 5% TFA Green Tea, so that would mean that 0.7% an excellent choice for how much to use to sub for 3.5% TFA.

If you ask me again in a few days (after I try Pioneer and see how present that Green Tea is) I might have a better answer, and if you want to wait a week and half or so, I'll try FE Green Tea as a sub in Pioneer myself and maybe have an even better one.

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by halvardralmost 9 years ago

cool, yeah do the Pioneer with FE, I've got time to wait

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Will do. I'll try Pioneer on Friday or Saturday and then decide for sure how much FE GT I want to try to use as a sub, and then let you know if it turned out to be too much or too little. But I'm thinking 0.7% is a really good guess without having tried it.

RemindMe! 4 days

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I'm vaping Pioneer right now and the green tea part is a little subtle than I expected it to be. I'm now thinking 0.9 to 1% FE would be a better bet for getting it closer to /u/thedirtyprojector's amazing original recipe -- damn this stuff is good -- but I'm not sure. I might have to make samples at 0.5, 0.75, and 1% and just see. I suspect getting the right % will result in something even better than the original, but finding it might take some more work.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

The answer to your question is 1%.

1% FE Green Tea makes an even better Pioneer than the original. I steeped it 15 days so if you try it any earlier than that, YMMV.

2 points
 
by ShadowGuyalmost 9 years ago

Made a mix of TFA Raspberry and Juicey peach

60/40

  • 5% Rapsberry
  • 9% Juicey peach
  • 2% Marshmallow - was trying to mute the chem taste

This stuff smells like nail polish remover with a faint raspberry twist tatse is preety chemically also

Any way to save this made 200ml before i realised it was the wrong Rapsberry?

Thanks

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You could try diluting it with VG and PG. Other than that, if it tastes that horrible, there's not really anything you can do. In the future, don't make large batches of recipes that you haven't tested yet.

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by coop34almost 9 years ago

TFA Raspberry Sweet is much better than regular raspberry. And 9% Juicy Peach is way high. 4% of each makes a decent blue raspberry.

As far as saving it, the best you can hope for is diluting it, at least in half. I would pour off 10ml, then add at least 10ml of plain base to that. Maybe, just maybe, you'll have something that you can stand to vape. If not, dump it and start over. It's only money, and dang little at that.

2 points
 
by mmarotta12almost 9 years ago

Ok so I made a few juices and I've learned that fruits don't need much steep time so after a few successful mixes I thought I was doing good. When I went to try my new blend of grape soda it was horrible chemical taste and I couldn't get the flavor out no matter what flavor I put in including some of my store bought premium juice so I threw in a new coil and used my new mango banana and the same thing happened and it gives off this weird burning noise when fired. Not sure what to do about these flavor stained coils and the coils for the tfv8 are quite pricey considering these are both new coils. Any suggestions? Both juices have 10% juice content At a 30/70 pg/vg 3 nic strength

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Try vaping pure PG/VG on the coils for a bit, might clear them out. And look into building your own coils, it's very simple and will save you a shitload of money.

What concentrates were you using for your grape soda recipe though?

2 points
 
by mmarotta12almost 9 years ago

Yeah I was going to get into building my own decks but was waiting for my coil wire to ship. As a make fix I stripped the wire from my rba coil for the cloud beast and put them on my cov mini royal hunter and it's working good. I have the 'broken' coils soaking in water as I read online but I took a grape concentrate and a Mountain Dew concentrate both at 5% each w a 30/70 pg vg mix

The first hit tasted great and it smelled amazing then it turned to a harsh chemical taste real quick. Guess I should let it steep longer

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

When people ask what you are using, it's helpful if you list the exact recipe with brand names and everything. Concentrates can differ greatly between brands.

I wouldn't bother soaking the coils in water. They will never be as useful after that.

2 points
 
by Avisityalmost 9 years ago

Can I use the juice of a fruit for eJuice flavoring?

I was wondering if you could help me figure this out. The only reason I think this wouldn't work is because of the natural sugar in the fruit. That would just burn right? Or is that only with artificial stuff? If it does work, I usually like a 70 vg, 30 pg and 6 nicotine mix in a 30 ml bottle. If you could use say, the juice out of an orange for flavoring how much should I put in?

The only reason I want to try this is because it would be a cheap and convenient way of making juice.

Thanks for any of your guys' help!

3 points
 
by Philosaphuckeralmost 9 years agoFrugivore

The only correct answer to this is NO. Do not do that.

5 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

An even better answer has a bunch of profanity and exclamation points mixed in with the "NO. Do not do that."

6 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

"FUCK NO! Holy shit do not fucking do this shit! DAMMIT"

2 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Bbbb...but I need vitamin C

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

No. Just buy flavorings since they're already cheap.

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Yes, the natural sugar will burn, possibly producing carcinogens. That alone is reason enough not to. Then take the possibility of coming down with lipid pnuemonia from the oils. Nasty stuff right there.

Stick with the artificial concentrates from our "verified vendors" link, you will be much safer.

2 points
 
by Babygoatmeatalmost 9 years ago

Looking to put in my first diy order through wizardlabs tomorrow. Looking to get 240ml vg, 120 pg, 120 ml of 60 mg nicotine. A handful of bottles, syringes, pipettes etc. whats a good handfull of flavors to start with from specific brands without goin nuts. Looking for fruits, fruits and cream, fruit cereal. Also does anyone have a legit recipe for betty white from uncle junks. Thanks again Any and all info is appreciated. Thaaaanks

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

This should help

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/first_order_flavors

The information above was found in the sidebar to the right. If you are not familiar with the sidebar, please look it over at least twice. It is filled with nearly everything you need or want to know about and the mods along with users have spent a lot of time compiling that information.

My suggestion in terms of picking out flavors is to find about 3 highly regarded recipes (either on this sub, DIYorDIE, or alltheflavors.com) and buy the ingredients for those recipes. That will give you a great start in your flavor collection as well as allow you to have some tried and true recipes to vape. You can also pick out some other flavors that catch your eye, but at least if you buy flavors for great recipes, you're guaranteed to have something tasty.

3 points
 
by Babygoatmeatalmost 9 years ago

Thank u much

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

First, get more vg, that will go quickly. You didn't say which base the nic is in, but I recommend PG. Just easier to work with.

As for flavors, do some homework. Search out recipes that both appeal to you, and most importantly have POSITIVE feedback. The "best of" threads and monthly threads here are the best sources. Allthe flavors.com is a great place to look. Then buy the needed flavors for those recipes, maybe picking up some other flavors to play with. The "flavor reviews" and "my first flavors" threads will help you to choose.

Welcome!

5 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

> Allthe flavors.com is a great place to look

Thanks for the reminder... I have been meaning to ask you. I noticed that you only have two recipes on ATF. You're using the free membership then? If so, are you planning to upgrade? If not, and the cost is an issue, I'll buy your first month in January. If still no, do you mind if I put Kiwi Bourbon and Kiwi "Cheesecake" on there? People NEED to see those recipes when they search for recipes by flavor for FA Kiwi, TFA Kentucky Bourbon, and TFA Toasted Marshmallow. It's a disservice to the world of DIY e-juice not to have them saved there.

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Thanks for the offer, that's pretty cool of you. Money doesn't have anything to do with it, I just keep forgetting. I'm gonna start in Jan, just pay for the whole year.

In the mean time, please do post those! That is cool with me. And thank you!

2 points
 
by OctopoonRacoonalmost 9 years ago

So I started mixing for myself about 2 months ago and I love it. I work with a guy who also vapes and was wanting to buy some juice off me. I was wondering how you all determine a price point for 30ml and 120ml bottles. I'm not looking to make a lot and I dont want to screw him either. I just want him to have some tasty juice at a good price. What would you all recommend?

2 points
 
by automaticfailurealmost 9 years ago

I did the whole take what you bought it for and divide it up by how many you have. My brother brought up that as long as it is lower than what a B+M has it at, they will probably buy it.
Go off what you feel comfortable with. I sell my 30ml at $5 for simple recipes and $10 for recipes that I took time to tweak and perfect. Considering it only costs around $1.50 in total after you are able to make a little profit to buy more inventory.

1 points
 
by OctopoonRacoonalmost 9 years ago

I quess I need to figure out how much I've spent in total and figure out how much per ml a bottle takes to make for myself. 5 dollars seems pretty fair. Right now his go to vendor is vapewild so he is only paying 7 plus shipping a 30ml anyway. I did give him a sample and he loved it. I just dont know if I can keep up with his demand! :/ Thank you for the reply.

2 points
 
by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

if you use Recipe Calculator and input your costs when adding your ingredients it'll give you a price per whatever volume you have it set to mix.

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I sell juice to a few friends at $5 for 30ml. That's beating the hell out of the local B&Ms' prices ($10 on sale, $15 regular, $20 and up for "premium") but still more than enough to cover my cost and my time. I always include a free 10ml sample, too, sometimes of something I'm working on that I'd like to get feedback on, sometimes of a completed recipe that I think they'll like, and sometimes just a single-flavor test to see what they think of that flavor.

2 points
 
by OctopoonRacoonalmost 9 years ago

Yeah. I was thinking around 5 bucks. I just didnt want to charge to much. I quess if they are willing to pay it though it would be fine. Thank you.

2 points
 
by boomdog07almost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I sell 50ml for $10. That is plenty to cover my costs, keep me in supplies, and I vape for free basically. NOBODY will complain if the juice is tasty and if you can get 5-6 steady customers buying 2-3 bottles a week it will keep your development up as well. They will buy your supplies for you for the new stuff too. They are also getting a product that will usually be better on their equipment if you aren't heavy on sweeteners and they will notice that and spread the word.

2 points
 
by OctopoonRacoonalmost 9 years ago

Thats whats up. Im going to start with just this guy for now.

2 points
 
by Trees4twentyalmost 9 years ago

What nicotine should I buy to avoid the peppery taste. Also is the pg/vg from liquid barn the way to go. So many choices and opinions

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Rather than rattle off multiple nicotine suppliers, you should check out the section in the sidebar for Nicotine. There will be recommended suppliers listed there. Peppery nicotine is a sign of oxidization, and most of the vendors listed are good at not selling nicotine that has oxidized. I'd say if you want to be totally sure of what you are getting, buy from CXT.

As far as PG and VG goes, as long as it is USP Grade and you are getting it at a good price, vendor does not matter.

1 points
 
by Trees4twentyalmost 9 years ago

Thanks. Sorry I've read most of that. Just have a hard time putting it all together with so many choices.

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

If you have Amazon Prime free shipping, and maybe even if you don't, Essential Depot is a great source of PG and VG.

As /u/EdibleMalfuntion already pointed out, Carolina Xtracts is the place for top-quality nicotine base with no worries about peppery taste or anything like that, but if it is too pricey for you, look at other sources. VapersTek is one that comes to mind as being highly recommended. Nude Nicotine used to be, and still is by some, but they have had some pretty serious customer service and quality control issues lately.

2 points
 
by twostepjakealmost 9 years ago

So with Xmas/bday coming up I'm gonna stock up on flavors that I've wanted to try and use in my mixes. Wanna hear from the community on what they like best.

I want a good apple, blueberry, banana, and any other staple "must haves". Like creams or background/sweetener/extra flavors.

Thanks everyone and happy holidays!

4 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

If you haven't already gone through all the information in the sidebar (sounds like you haven't), I highly recommend doing so. Twice.

As for first order flavors, we have a compilation here.

Apple: FA Fuji, INW Two Apples

Blueberry: FW Blueberry, HS Blueberry, TFA BB Wild, TFA BB Extra

Banana: LA Banana Cream, TFA Banana Cream

Creams: TFA Vanilla Swirl, DIYFS Holy Vanilla, CAP Vanilla Custard, FA Fresh Cream, FA Vienna Cream, FLV Cream

Sweetener: Anything but CAP Super Sweet

3 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

See, this is the kind of thing we were talking about earlier. Sort of. It does sound like /u/twostepjake has not read the sidebar link for My First Order Flavors, which serves as a nice list of must-have flavors. He definitely should have done that before posting. He actually made a post about this, read the automoderator comment that says "If this post is about what flavors to buy, please delete it and post in the New Mixers Thread," and deleted his post, so the automoderator did what it was supposed to do and the poster did what he was supposed to do, which is just plain excellent.

But, the "My First Order" Flavors link is from March 2015. A search for "must-haves" just turns up one- to two-year-old links. How many new flavors have been released or "discovered" since then? Would it hurt to allow this conversation to take place again and to have some newer mixers share what they think are must-have flavors?

Food for thought.

/u/twostepjake, thanks for deleting your post and moving it here. We're talking about changing or bending the rules, but at the moment they are what they are for a good reason and should be followed unless the community wants to change or bend them.

Apple: Second on the Fuji, also check out INW Anton Apple for a tarter, Granny Smith-type apple.

Blueberry: FW Blueberry, TFA Blueberry Extra, and FA Bilberry, thanks /u/EdibleMalfuction for that Holy Trinity of blueberries.

Banana: What /u/goldfish18 said, but FA Banana is pretty good too.

Creams: What Goldfish said, again, but also TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.

Sweetener: TFA Sweetener for recipes that must have it, but learn to mix without it and don't use it as crutch.

Extra flavors: CAP Sugar Cookie! What the fucking fuck, how is that not on the top of the "My First Order" flavors link under "Newest Results?" This was the result of a contest post? I DEMAND A RECOUNT.

Other extra flavors: Stuff that is on the my first order link, FA Meringue, TFA Dragonfruit, etc. etc. Also, it depends very much on what it is exactly that you're planning to do with those apples, blueberries, and bananas.

3 points
 
by WhoInvitedChrisalmost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I know this is off-topic and I've been loosely been following a bit of the talks about the sub recently... But I just wanted to take this opportunity to praise you. You do such a good job as a mod here. You're super helpful and you're constantly doing stuff like this and answering new mixer questions, etc. I'm just blown away. Thanks for supporting the community.

(I also believe the best path for the "must-haves" is to reopen discussion on voting what flavors are best now-a-days. Just my two cents.)

3 points
 
by boomdog07almost 9 years agoDiketones, Schmiketones

I said something very similar to this a few weeks ago and got flamed to pieces... apparently some don't like change?? I don't know. I used the first order flavors for my first order and within 3 days I realized that I needed about 10 more to do anything that I really wanted. I really enjoy reading and contributing here when I can but there are a few people that really make it hard it seems. I actually avoided it for a while just because of the hate I got from "read the sidebar" and "look at the first order flavors" stuff we see all the time.

2 points
 
by twostepjakealmost 9 years ago

I had gone through the side bar a little bit but like you said, its got a lot of old links and things I'd already looked into when I made my very first order. I still have some but now that I've gotten 2 mixes I go to everyday, I wanted to start branching out to things I'd still enjoy but may not be an ADV. If that makes sense. I appreciate the input and sorry for the post. I'll go read the side bar post more in depth.

2 points
 
by ChevelloKDalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

As a pretty new mixer (couple of months only), if I may, I'd like to toss my opinion into this subject.

TL;DR: How about a My First Mixes list of simple recipes that use the MFO list in the sidebar?

I went through and ordered most of the My First Order flavors and then like a backwards dumbass went looking for recipes that fit them. Like a lot of posters I've been seeing, I then found that I needed to make My Second Order so that I could make interesting things, or at least things that were interesting to me. Finding recipes that sounded good and building my first order from that would have been a better idea. Certainly not a huge deal since I'm sure I'll find uses for everything and an order for most of the list was still cheaper than my usual pre-diy monthly commercial juice order.

So, anyhow, I thought it might be useful to have a list of simple recipes in the sidebar. Maybe a My First Mixes list showing a few two or three maybe even four flavor recipes in categories like tobacco, fruit, bakery, etc. using ingredients listed in the MFO list. I know it would be pretty subjective, but a few simple recipes in each category could help out someone looking at all those bottles and wondering what to do next.

That said, I've had great luck finding recipes using the MFO list by simply searching for the name of each ingredient and reading the threads that turn up. Besides being a great learning tool due to reading the processes to get to the final version and responses by people who have mixed them up, it shows which things tend to go together and how they work together to end with the final result.

2 points
 
by samuryan89almost 9 years ago

Hello all, I've been reading a lot into the new nicotine salts from Nude Nicotine. I've been using sub-ohm builds with 3mg (Max VG) without getting the nic fix i need, and anything higher than 3mg is just too harsh for me to vape (even when adding in my own nicotine from NN). I've recently picked up an iCare, and am interested in adding in nicotine salts to 0mg juice to get a higher nicotine content without the harshness that i've come to expect from anything higher than 3mg.

I went ahead and ordered a 15ml sample of NN's "smooth" in 100%VG and "signature" in 100%PG (both 100mg/ml). I'm aiming for high nicotine content (30mg), and my limited knowledge of the math needed tells me that I'll need 12.8ml's per 30ml's of 0mg juice. The question I have is... if I'm using the 100%VG "smooth" nicotine, will that result in a juice that is too thick for the iCare if I'm adding it to Max VG juice? Should I instead start with juice that is lower in VG, and if so, what ratio? Also, will adding so much of this unflavored nicotine salt severely reduce the flavor?

Thanks for any help or other thoughts!

2 points
 
by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

I was just looking into the iCare and similar devices, this nic salt thing sounds interesting and I look forward to your results as I have the same issue.

I believe the iCare is like similar products that usually prefer the 30-40 range of PG. I would not go higher than a 30pg/70vg mix for that.

1 points
 
by samuryan89over 8 years ago

Just FYI, I ended up having too many problems with the iCare (coils tasting gross after a day or two, juice not flowing into coil without unscrewing the post every 4 or 5 pulls, etc), so I purchased an Aspire Nautilus Mini (which has been great so far) and got some 100%PG 100mg/ml "Smooth" salts from Nude Nicotine, and have been adding it to 80vg/20pg or Max VG juice. 2.5ml's of the nicotine per 10ml's of 0mg ejuice to get 20mg/ml ejuice, usually sits somewhere between 60-70vg/40-30pg. I vape it at 15 watts, no harshness for me, very satisfying vape, can close off airflow and get a nice MTL, or open it up and get a semi-decent lung hit. AND battery life for days (using the Nautilus Mini on a Sigelei 100w+ box mod). Hope that helps.

2 points
 
by FuriousKimchialmost 9 years ago

Is there a website I can plug in all my flavors I have and it shows me all the recipe I can make?

3 points
 
by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

to add on to what /u/ID10-T said, on ELR you make an account and click on the user tab and choose my flavor stash. add all your flavors and then from that same window click on the "search from flavor stash" button and it'll let you select what flavors to mix with

1 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

ATF does that, but I'm not sure whether or not you have to pay for a subscription to do it or whether a free account can do it.

I hear ELR does it too, but I don't know how to do it.

Edit: This site: http://www.crazyeliquidmachine.com/

Does something like that too, but instead of actual recipes that people have developed, you get random silly ones

2 points
 
by FuriousKimchialmost 9 years ago

Thank you!

2 points
 
by JanickGersalmost 9 years agoMentholatier

Hi all! I have a question. Can I add a flavor after the juice has been mixed? I mixed a juice yesterday, and when I tried it today I realized that it could really benefit with a hint of another flavor, just a hint, a 1%. Can I add it to the mix now or do I have to mix again? Since it's such a small percentage, I figure that it would not degrade the nicotine too much.
So far I'm having a blast with mixing my own stuff. The flavors are so much better without additives and the coils last a lot longer because I don't use sweeteners, it's crazy!

1 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Yes, you can do that, but since you don't know exactly how much of it you took out to taste it, you won't know exactly what % you're adding, and might have trouble getting the exactly same results when you love it and want to make it again.

2 points
 
by JanickGersalmost 9 years agoMentholatier

Ah I see. So far it's an acceptable vape so I can wait for another mix, don't really want to throw away the mixes I'm making, even though they're small batches for now until I find some good recipes to make more. Thanks for the answer!

1 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

If you think it could benefit from adding a tiny bit of something else, by all means, add it. I was really just warning you of one of the pitfalls of getting into the habit of mixing that way. If you decide you love it and want to re-create it later, you can always guess-timate the amount needed to do so and probably get it right in a few tries.

2 points
 
by JacksRevenge23almost 9 years ago

I'm a history/literature guy. Even the simplest maths make my head spin.

If I buy the wizard labs 12mg Nicotine in both PG and VG, then mix them at a 70/30 VG/PG ratio, I'll still have a 12mg solution, correct? (Well, 8-12 depending on flavor additions)

Just starting to do DIY e liquid. Once I found out the cost of making it at home it just doesn't make sense to spend $15+ a week per bottle when I could make a months supply for under $20

3 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Your math is good but the more common way of doing it is to get the PG and VG separately, along with get a higher concentration nicotine in either PG or VG, and mixing them all together with your flavors. That way, you get the exact mg solution you want in the exact VG/PG ratio you want every time, regardless of how much or how little flavoring you add to the mix. Then you just use one of the online or downloadable ejuice mixing calculators and let them to all the math work for you.

2 points
 
by JacksRevenge23almost 9 years ago

Is one 100ml bottle of juice per coil a reasonable expectation with the kanger sub ohm coils on the SUBOX mini?

3 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I think you may have posted in the wrong sub

2 points
 
by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

No, that doesn't sound right. I am a heavy vaper and I had a NEBOX that used the coils and even I got a week+ out of them, what kind of juice? What ingredients?

2 points
 
by JacksRevenge23almost 9 years ago

Sorry I didn't give details. I just purchased and I am still waiting for my SUBOX and coils. I was looking for what sort of lifespan they'd have. My old volcanoe sub ohm went through a couple of coils per 100ml bottle of juice.

I also didn't realize at the time of posting that this sub is strictly e juice related (love this sub)

3 points
 
by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

If it's in this thread I think it's fine but I don't make the rules.

I think you will get more than 100ml assuming it's not a super sucralose yellow cake monster. Probably 200-250ml as a guess based on nothing.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Even more so, it's DIY Ejuice. If you ever want to start mixing your own and saving money, come on back and do some reading!

2 points
 
by Zerbulonalmost 9 years ago

Total newbie here... I just started with DIY ejuice. Here is what I did: Bought 1 liter of 50/50 6mg nic Base (Avoria) and two flavors to start with, Capella Strawberry and Ultrabio Mango.

I put ~48ml Base liquid in a 50ml bottle and added 2,5ml of Capella Strawberry flavor, so I would get a ~5% mix. Shook well, vaped it next day in a Joyetech AIO with 0.5 ohm coils.

I was quite underwhelmed with taste. I added another 0.5ml to get roughly 6%, but its still not that satisfying, I expected the juice to be much more intensive in taste.

Should I keep adding more flavor? Does steeping really help?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Which Strawberry did you buy?

2 points
 
by Zerbulonalmost 9 years ago

the regular Capella Strawberry (not Sweet Strawberry)

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

I didn't know that cap has a plain strawberry, never saw it mentioned before now.

If you have access to INW, then Shisha is the strawberry that you want for a great standalone. 3-4% is perfect for me.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I don't believe they have just Strawberry. It's not even listen on their own site

2 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

According to ELR, average mixing strength for single flavor Capella Strawberry Sweet is 9%. I realize you don't have Sweet version but it may give you some idea of amount needed. On the other hand, there is always some whacko who mixes a flavor at 20% and completely fucks up the average mixing stat so it's a bit of a toss up.

2 points
 
by Zerbulonalmost 9 years ago

Woah, 9% is quite a lot! Ok, thanks, I'll spice up my juice step by step and see how it turns out.

4 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

For future flavor orders, I recommend you go on e-liquid-recipes.com or alltheflavors.com/recipes and type in some key words like banana or mango or tobacco, and make sure you sort by rating. Then choose a few recipes that appeal to you and buy the exact flavors you need to make them. That way you don't get stuck with some random flavor that not many people have tried. In the beginning, it's much more fruitful to mix well known recipes that people agree are good. You'll learn your flavors quicker and have fantastic e-liquid to vape right off the bat.

Good luck, have fun!

2 points
 
by kai_adleralmost 9 years ago

Hey y'all, new vaper here. So, I fucked up. I've never called before, but I thought fuck it, I'll try it! So I bought a starter pen kit, and what I thought was juice. It's not juice. It's flavoring. So I then had to go out and get a bottle of the oils, I got a 30vg/70pg mix. I'm just wondering what percentage of the flavoring I should use? It's brown sugar, 0mg.

2 points
 
by firefoxwhyyounoworkalmost 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

It really depends on the make of the flavor concentrates are you using. What is the manufacture?

Please also do not call them oils, vaping oils will lead to lipid pneumonia. If your flavorings are oils based do not use in ejuice.

2 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Well you might have stumbled into the most fun, best tasting, extremely fun hobby that's related to vaping.

Please tell us the brand name of your flavoring. As firefox said, if it's oil based, you can't use it, it's not safe for vaping.

Are you switching over from smoking? If so, you might want to get some nicotine. If not, you obviously don't want nicotine lol.

Someone might direct you to read the sidebar at some point. If this seems like an interesting hobby to you, then I recommend you do read the sidebar as it will teach you everything you need to know to get started. On the other hand, if you just wanna vape some e-liquid and will be buying commercial e-liquid in the future, then we can probably just tell you the exact amount to mix.

2 points
 
by kai_adleralmost 9 years ago

I said oil based, but i just meant the PG/VG mix. Thank you for your concern though.

I'm using the Reddit app, so I don't have the side bar, unfortunately.

As for the flavoring, I got it from eBay. The brand name is Kaotic Vapor. Thank you for your help!

4 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

The official reddit app does have the sidebar. Go to the front page of this sub, click the three dots in the top right corner then click community info.

4 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

> Kaotic Vapor

I have never heard of them. In future, don't buy any e-liquid from ebay. You need to buy from trusted vendors.

On the Reddit app, go to the front page of this sub, then click the three dots at the top right of your screen and then click "Community Info". That is the sidebar :)

To make a 30mL bottle with 5% flavoring, you'll need the following:

  • 28.5 mL vg/pg
  • 1.5 mL caramel

The mix does not account for nicotine since you did not include that you want nicotine. I used ELR calculator to get these numbers. You can try it out yourself if you want to increase or decrease the flavoring. If the calculator confuses you in any way, please watch a tutorial on youtube to figure it out. The only part that you might not understand is the nicotine and it's an important one if you'll be using nic.

2 points
 
by JarlFirestarter0almost 9 years ago

Hi guys, got a few recipes I'm working on that I'm struggling with a little. I'll break it up with lines. All ingredients TFA unless specified.


Strawberry milk/cream

Current recipe:

  • 10% Strawberry ripe
  • 4% Bavarian Cream
  • 4% Dairy Milk
  • 3% CAP Vanilla Custard V1

Needs to taste thicker. I'm wondering about adding a dash of raspberry to replace about 2-3% of the strawberry, maybe some vanilla bean ice cream or something like a cheesecake (graham crust). Any recommendations?


Blueberry Yoghurt

  • 10% FW Blueberry
  • 5% Bavarian Cream
  • 4% Greek Yoghurt
  • 3% Dairy Milk

Struggling to get the blueberry to taste fresh enough. Thinking of finding some bilberry or blackberry and wild blueberry to layer instead of single flavour. Also it's not tangy Yoghurt enough, but CAP Greek yoghurt tastes awful. Wondering wether to boost the Yoghurt or find something else.


Dessert cream/Custard (inspired by Element Crema)

  • 9% CAP Vanilla Custard V1
  • 5% Bavarian Cream
  • 2.5% CAP Bavarian Cream
  • 2.5% Dairy Cream

This ones obvious- it was mainly down to not having many ingredients. It's not thick or creamy enough, maybe I need to find vanilla bean icecream, vanilla muffin, whipped cream and a cheesecake. Thoughts? I considered adding sweetener.

3 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

For the first one, cut out the Dairy Milk, and try all of the things you suggested for yourself.

For the second one, cut out the both the Bavarian Cream and the Dairy Milk and try CAP Creamy Yogurt instead. For the blueberries, try /u/EdibleMalfunction's blueberry Trinity: 4% TFA Blueberry Extra, 3% FW Blueberry, and 0.5% FA Bilberry. Also add 0.5% CAP Italian Lemon Sicily - that will serve the dual purpose of making the blueberries pop and tarting up your yogurt a bit.

For the last one, mix this recipe, Ginger Sauce and adjust to fit your palate after you've tried it.

2 points
 
by JarlFirestarter0almost 9 years ago

Cheers, I'll try that then- not sure on the custard/cream one but I'll try it and see.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It's the Holy Trinity

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Yes, I'm sorry for committing what amounts to blasphemy by failing to capitalize it. Will edit.

2 points
 
by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

I checked out "Ginger Sauce" in the hopes of finally finding a ginger flavour that I could use in my ginger lemonade recipe. Alas, no dice. Whoever heard of calling a recipe like that "Ginger Sauce"? I guess there's a joke there that I'm missing...

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

You're not the first to be let down by that unfortunate name for a delectable ginger-free custard recipe. It's not really a joke, or at least not a very good one; it was named for its creator's red hair, freckles, and soullessness.

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Great advice by u/ID10-T . I'd also add that you may want to decrease some of those percentages. No need to go that high.

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by JarlFirestarter0almost 9 years ago

Cheers- yeah I've gone a bit heavy on the flavouring because I test through the steeping (with VG on the cotton) then dilute a bit when it's ready.

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

What do you mean by that?

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by Armadus2almost 9 years ago

Hello. New guy here. I got some 70vg/30pg 3mg base from ecigexpress and mixed the first batch. Came out good but I get a crazy nic rush/headache from it. Nic test kit is on the way but I figured id ask here. Does that base need to be diluted? Double-checked the bottle and it does say 3mg. Thanks!!!

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by coop34almost 9 years ago

Shake well to ensure that the nic is evenly distributed. For testing, remember to use a larger sample size than what the directions tell you. 15-20 ml should do.

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by Armadus2almost 9 years ago

Yea. I shook the crap out of it. The second batch I diluted 50% with 0-nic 70/30 and it is still too strong. My buddy (who Vapes 6mg) had the same reaction. I'll know for sure when the test kit arrives but my current thinking is that it's mislabeled.

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by coop34almost 9 years ago

Very possible. I would test a couple of ways. The kit directions will tell you to use a 1ml sample of your nic (mine did anyway), but that is predicated on the nic being at least 30mg strength. Test it that way and see what happens. If the reults lead you to believe that there is no nic, that will indicate that it is indeed a low level. That is when you would retest, using a 20ml sample.

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by JarlFirestarter0almost 9 years ago

3mg or 3%?

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by Armadus2almost 9 years ago

Bottle says 3MG/ML

http://i.imgur.com/mzWhtIL.jpg

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by JarlFirestarter0almost 9 years ago

Ah ok, just making sure because it's a VERY common mistake.

Still, be careful with it until you get the test kit. It could just be nic hotspots (not mixed in properly) or it could be a mislabelled bottle.

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

By adding other ingredients, you are diluting the base

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by Armadus2almost 9 years ago

Yes. And it's still way too strong...

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by TimeSlipperWHOOPSalmost 9 years ago

I don't vape. I even though it was a water base before I started researching.

Okay, so, I need to create some juice to provide smoke for a theatrical show. We need it to be nicotine free and flavor free. Do I use straight VG or PG? Which do I choose? Would one look more "smokey" than the other?

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by ChevelloKDalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Amazon has several theatrical "smoke" liquids for pretty cheap. Look up "fog juice" I think it was. Turned up when I was searching for PG and VG.

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by Taclitealmost 9 years ago

VG gives the most vapor, but I believe smoke machines use PG or a blend of the two.

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by TimeSlipperWHOOPSalmost 9 years ago

It's a non-smoker (and a minor and we have parental permission)... does that make a difference here?

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by Taclitealmost 9 years ago

I wouldn't advise a minor to vape at all. However, pure VG vill give you the most vapor with the least throat hit/harshness.

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by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

Yeah, just straight VG is what you are looking for. Only issue is WHAT it will be vaped from, if it's a little pen or similar it won't handle 100% VG very well.

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by skiddlzninjaalmost 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

So you're using a pen to simulate smoking in a high school theater, I'm guessing? If that's the case, use PG. VG creates much more vapor than a real cigarette would, and you don't want to have issues with the heating element burning because VG is too thick to soak into it. You can always order small amounts of each, and find a blend that gives you the most realistic result through trial and error.

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by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

I bought 5ml of Flavorah Tricks Cereal and doing searches returns little and there are almost no recipes for it. Anyone got ideas handy? Or even a solid single flavor percentage? (Saw conflicting 3% to much etc.)

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/flavor/65011

The consensus seems to be that this is a shitty flavor. Judging by the reviews, you probably just want to trash that concentrate. In the future, make sure you either find recipes or look up some notes on flavors you buy. There are definitely some out there that tend to be unusable.

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by Burritoclockalmost 9 years ago

Like I said I searched and saw that the consensus was it's garbage, but the one or two people that said otherwise made me hope just maybe someone found a use, lol.

It's a 5ml I threw in the cart for no real reason. So no worries.

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by mrthrowaway101galmost 9 years ago

Looking to make nicotine free ejuice. I want to start out with a simple cotton candy flavor from flavors west. I have vg, pg, pippettes, and 10ml containers. Am I able to use pippettes to put everything in? How much drops of pg vg and flavoring would I use? Thanks!

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Measuring by drops is not accurate. You will need syringes to measure by volume or, since you already have pipettes, a scale to mix by weight

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by mrthrowaway101galmost 9 years ago

I have a scale

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Does it measure down to .01 g?

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by Ziserainalmost 9 years ago

I like to vape as close to Max VG as possible, my Base and Nic are VG and I even get some Real Flavors thrown in for their VG bases liquids. I do know that ejuice calculators will account for VG based flavorings, but is it bad to mix PG and VG based flavorings in a sense that the PG flavorings will break down much faster so the steep time is altered? Moreso I see people claim 12%-20% of their ejuice is flavorings, how can I tell what an appropriate range is for some flavorings? Is there a database that, say, tells me how much (CAP) Vanilla Custard should be used in a mix and to never EXCEED a certain amount? I also bought a bunch of empty 10ml bottles for flavor testing. What is the average steep time for these bottles? Or should I still give them about 2-4 weeks for steeping?

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by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

I have a few recipes that mix PG flavors with the RF brand. Just go off the steeping time of the RF components of the juice. The two web-based calculators that a lot of us use, http://e-liquid-recipes.com, and https://alltheflavors.com, will allow you to look up flavors and you can check out the recommended percentages for them. As far as steeping time in those bottles, it really depends on what you are mixing. Mixes won't always take 1-2 weeks, depending on your concentrates. It may be a few days less than say a 30 ml bottle, but I wouldn't change the resting time at all.

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by skiddlzninjaalmost 9 years agoThat one moderator. You know, the honey guy.

To add to this, take ELR recommended percentages VERY lightly. I would not use them as any sort of guide, nor recommend them.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

What is everyone's favourite lemonade? I'm hoping to build up my flavour arsenal as time goes on, but I want some goto flavours in the beginning so that I've got something to vape while I'm at it. And yes, I checked the flavour reviews, but the only lemonade reviewed there is FLV Lemonade - no others.
Best,
Magnus.

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by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

LA Lemonade is probably the most popular, and it is used in some very well regarded lemonade recipes. (Usually with some other lemon and a touch of strawberry or raspberry)

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

Thanks for this. Just what the doctor ordered. I appreciate it very much. Do you think that using Lemon Sicily would suffice as an adequate additional lemon flavour to use (because I have that lemon flavour).

Best,
Magnus.

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by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Hi Magnus, yes on the lemon Sicily.

Here is one of the popular recipes: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/4biyx4/best_damn_pink_lemonade/?

Obviously it is for pink lemonade, so if you want plain lemonade just omit the other fruits, possibly add a little extra lemon.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

Does anyone have any suggestions for what I can substitute for "FA Lime Cold Pressed" in the infamous (I don't know who built the recipe) Key Lime Pie recipe?

I cannot find this flavour from any single Canadian supplier, and the shipping is, like, $30 USD to have it shipped to Canada from any American supplier (why the hell it should be so expensive is beyond me). $30 USD translates into $40 CDN, and I just cannot justify that for one flavour, no matter how badly I want to try this recipe. And I do want to try it, badly. Which is why I'm hoping someone could suggest a substitute flavour... I know that Lime Tahity Cold Pressed just isn't the same flavour.

Best,
Magnus.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

FA Lime Cold Pressed and FA Lime Tahity Cold Pressed are the same thing.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

That's good to hear. I had read somewhere that they couldn't be interchanged and that they were very different flavours. Thanks so much for clarifying. FA Lime Tahity I CAN get, easily. In goes the order! Now I can try out this infamous Key Lime Pie recipe (who DID author this recipe, btw?)

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

FA Lime Cold Pressed and FA Lime Distilled (with or without the word Tahity in there that sometimes gets included but sometime gets dropped from both of them) are very different flavors and cannot be interchanged.

I have no idea what key lime pie recipe you're talking about.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

Sorry 'bout all the questions tonight, but if you were to purchase sweetener, which would you buy? What is the sweetest (so that I have to purchase less of it over time)? Which is the best tasting?

Best,
Magnus.

ps - can you tell that I'm getting ready to put in my monthly order?

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I like CAP Super Sweet because it's the strongest and contains some scary chemicals that might make me infertile. I can't afford a vasectomy so while the thought of scalpels touching my balls is certainly thrilling, until a male birth control bill is released, I'll just have to keep trying to vape my way to not making any more nose miners.

I think more people use prefer TFA Sweetener (5% Sucralose, 5% Maltol) and want avoid the preservatives in CAP Super Sweet (20% Sucralose, plus preservatives). There are other sources for sucralose sweetener as well, usually sold in 10% dilution. But before you resort to gunking up your coils with sucralose sweetener, try TFA Ethyl Maltol or "Cotton Candy" (Not Circus Cotton Candy, that's a different flavor!) that can increase the perception of sweetness in your juice (but also mutes flavors) or better yet, adding a sweet flavor to the mix such as a marshmallow flavor.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

It's more that I want to learn about them. Maybe try them out just to see what they're all about. The more I learn, the better. And the more I learn about commercial juices and what they're made of the more I'll understand about them. THAT'S a circular argument now, isn't it?

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by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

to add on, if you go the marshmallow route get either the TFA or CAP one. as i just discovered last night, FA marshmallow tastes like an actual marshmallow. i couldn't for the life of me figure out why everyone liked the watermelon crack clone until i saw people discussing it in the clone thread and decided to take another look at the recipe and realized i was using FA MM instead of TFA. then i did some research that lead me to

this

video that talks about the difference.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

Thanks so much. I'll check out the video a bit later today. I'm really wanting to find out about actual sweeteners, though. More for curiosity's sake than anything, though I might try some just to see what they're like. I already use FA Meringue as a sweetener for some things, but wanted to try my Spiced Apricot Glaze On Ice Cream recipe with a bit of sweetener. Meringue would ruin it, I feel.

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by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

sweetener is a personal taste thing, really the only thing for it is to get some and try it out. i have a bottle of FW Sweetener that i've only used 2 or 3 times, one of them being last night because i don't have the right marshmallow. if i'm reading the msds right it's something like 30% sucralose and i used it at .2%. the juice tastes a whole lot better than when mixed it with the wrong marshmallow but i don't know if that's down to the sweetener or the lack of FA marshmallow. my next step is to try it without any additives and with cotton candy then eventually whenever i put in my next order with the right marshmallow.

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by hyperlite310almost 9 years ago

Sweetner is usually 10% sucralose dilution in PG. Cap Super Sweet is 20%. If a recipe calls for sweetner, let's say 2%, you would use 1% of super sweet.

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by Magnus8Woodalmost 9 years ago

Thanks so much. Good info.

1 points
 
by hyperlite310almost 9 years ago

Your welcome kind sir!

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by kai_adleralmost 9 years ago

Anybody have any recommendations for flavour brands? Mt Baker Vapor would've been my go-to, but they discontinued the concentrates on Aug 8.

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

You want brands of flavor to buy or places to buy flavors from?

2 points
 
by kai_adleralmost 9 years ago

Both, actually. Just hit me with whatever you got

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

My favorite place to buy flavors from has long been Bull City Flavors, though more recently I've been loving ECX for their selection and customer service. Even more recently, Nicotine River had a great Black Friday sale so I ordered from there for the first time and was impressed. I've also been happy with Heartland Vapes in the past and still get all my bottles there but the selection of flavors is very small. I keep trying to order from Gremlin DIY because I love that they're such a great friend to DIY ejuice, but by some coincidence they never have everything I want to order, so I wind up going somewhere where I can get everything I need in one order.

As for flavors, I recommend finding recipes that you want to make and ordering the flavors used in those, without limiting yourself to just one brand or even just five or six brands. Unless you're looking for one-shot concentrates where they're already mixed up and you just mix together the recommended percent of that one flavor, PG, VG, and nicotine base. If you're after those, I'd recommend one of these from Gremlin DIY or one of these from DIYorDIE & ECX.

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by kai_adleralmost 9 years ago

So I'm diy-ing some juice, and I'm curious- would a pure VG base work with a KangerTech top EVOD? Any thoughts are greatly appreciated

1 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

It would have a hard time wicking. I would use at least 20% PG with a tank like that, or maybe 5% distilled water if you're avoiding PG.

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by GeeKnock253almost 9 years ago

Hi there everyone. Im pretty new to mixing just started yesterday but I've been vaping for 4 years now. I started with about 20 different flavors and was just curious on what anyne would suggest to get a good milk flavor. I have FA Cream Fresh, TFA DX Sweet Cream, TFA Bavarian Cream, and TFA DX Marshmallow. What could I use to get a good milk flavor. 😁 thanks for any help.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

It really depends on what you're mixing it with, as different flavors react differently to each other. FA Cream Fresh and TFA Bavarian Cream are your two best bets out of those, for sure.

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by GeeKnock253almost 9 years ago

Lets say for a cereal (fruit circles tfa berry cereal fa) thats much heavier on the milk than on the cereal. I tried the tonguefuck recipe off the bat but find the lemon from the cereal to be taking over the other flavors.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I don't know that there's any hope for TFA Fruit Circles. That stuff very likely tastes like lemon Pledge no matter what you do. Tonguefuck recipe looks gross to me for that reason; I've never tried it, though. For other cereals I'd go with 4% TFA Bavarian Cream and 2% FA Cream Fresh.

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by darbaccinoalmost 9 years ago

Hi guys, im going to start mixing my first flavours in a few days when my order arrives. I was just wondering how you guys clean bottles before mixing everything together. (Unicorn bottles in this case)

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by GeeKnock253almost 9 years ago

You could get an inexpensive ultrasonic cleaner machine. Usually $25-$35 at home depot or harbor freight. Also works great to clean all your vape gear like rdas, tanks, tips,syringes etc...

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by Gushluvaalmost 9 years agoTobacconist

Rinse with warm water and soap, then drop them into a pot of boiling water for a few mins (I guess this only applies to used bottles).

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by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

Possible dumb question, I've promised myself that I won't buy anymore flavors for the rest of the year but I want to give the watermelon crack clone but I don't have TPA marshmallow. TPA marshmallow is 5% EM and 5% sucralose.

What I do have is TPA cotton candy and FW sweetener. Cotton candy is 10% EM and FW sweetener, if I'm reading the msds correctly is ~30%.

My question is, for a given volume of TPA marshmallow can I sub 50% cotton candy and 16% FW sweetener?

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

What? TFA Marshmallow is NOT 5% EM and 5% sucralose.

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by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

goddamn it. what have i been reading? was it cotton candy that was a mix of EM and sweetener?

e: shit appearantly i got everything mixed up while searching. TPA SWEETENER is a mix of sucralose and maltol but NOT ETHYL maltol.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Looks like you've gotten it all straightened out now. I honestly don't know the difference, flavorwise, between maltol and ethyl maltol, but but 5% sucralose and 5% maltol is indeed what's in TFA Sweetener. Cotton Candy is 10% ethyl maltol.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You would probably be fine with just omitting any of that, to be honest

1 points
 
by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

Question on adding flavors to recipies. Say I was to take this sugar cookie and want to add mashmallow to it. For a 70/30 blend it would be CAP Sugar cookie 8%, Cap Vanilla Custard 4%, PG 18%, VG 70%. If I wanted to add it 5% of marshmallow, where do I take that 5% away from? If I just add 5% without taking it from somewhere I would be at 105%. Or is the idea to get all your % of flavors in, and then figure out the remaining % for the VG and PG to get 70/30?

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by coop34almost 9 years ago

You should be using a calculator, makes life easier.

99% of flavors are PG based. So your hypothetical should look like this, assuming you are using 100mg/ml PG nicotine. Just remember to make yourself a note of how much nic to add when you get it.

Did this help?

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by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

I'm not using nicotine yet. If I'm understanding correctly if I want to make a 70/30 juice from the ground up. Start with 70% VG, add up %'s of flavors, and the remaining % left over make that % PG?

Also if I want to edit a flavor and add something to it like 5% of something new, I remove 5% from the PG?

2 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Yep and yep.

1 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashuralmost 9 years ago

Would you sub JF strawberry sweet for CAP sweet strawberry 1:1 ?

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Yes

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

No, JF Strawberry Sweet is more concentrated than CAP Sweet Strawberry. For example, you can find plenty of recipes using CAP Sweet Strawberry at 4 to 6%. That would be WAY too much JF Sweet Strawberry. I'd sub it at something like 0.75:1 at the most on the JF, maybe even a little less, but not as low as 0.5:1.

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by HashSlingingSlashuralmost 9 years ago

Yeah I'm low on the CAP stuff and wanted to see what the JF stuff was like. I'm using it in my strawberry milk at 2% along with 1% FA red touch and 2% strawberry ripe. I think I'll try 1% red touch, 1% JF sweet and 2% ripe. Then I'll try 1.5% JF.

Thanks for the input, I noticed something slightly off about using it at 2% with the other strawberries.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I think it tastes great. It tastes like CAP Sweet Strawberry wishes it tasted like. But yeah, subbing it 2% for 2% would make it taste weird. It's a candy strawberry and that's too much candy. Your plan to start at 1% and then try 1.5% sounds like a good idea to me. You'll probably be happiest with something between 1.25 and 1.75%.

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