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Weekly New Mixers Questions Thread - Week of November 21, 2016
submitted almost 9 years ago by AutoModerator

OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.

  • Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
  • Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
  • Want to get started but aren't sure how?
  • Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.

Ask away!

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by Kraftykiwialmost 9 years ago

New mixer here. No specific questions at this time but wanted to take the opportunity to thank all of the contributors of this sub. I've really learned a lot. Looking forward to my first FA flavours arriving and trying them out.

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by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Welcome to DIY! Happy mixing! Which flavors did you order?

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by Kraftykiwialmost 9 years ago

Thanks for the welcome. I ordered:

Tiramisu) by FlavourArt Cocoa by FlavourArt Fresh Cream by FlavourArt Meringue by FlavourArt Marshmallow by FlavourArt Chai Tea by Capella Flavor Drops Fuji Apple by FlavourArt Golden Pineapple by Capella Pear by FlavourArt Strawberry by Inawera

I have some particular combinations I would like to try but I realise now that I should have at least ordered flavours to make one known good mix. Noob mistake :)

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

No FA Kiwi??

Classic noob mistake that you can always correct later. This'll give you a chance to find out which of these flavors/combinations of flavors you like and you can look for at least one known good mix that uses them and have your next order be whatever else you need to make it, as well as whatever else sounds good to you to use in your own mixes.

You did get some great flavors. Too often I see people posting "Just got my first order, what can I make with these?" and what follows is a list of the worst and weirdest, least commonly used, flavors. I've used up all of my smaller bottles of FA Fresh Cream, Meringue, Marshmallow, Fuji, and Pear and CAP Golden Pineapple and reordered larger ones to replace them. For the Fuji I went ahead and ordered a huge one.

2 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokealmost 9 years ago

Judging by the name you're an NZ'er?

If so, there's a few of us here, there's also /r/nzvapers albeit pretty quiet.

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by Kraftykiwialmost 9 years ago

You are correct, just out of Welly. Will look into that sub. Am currently buying from NN (DIY kit) and ecigexpress. Any tips on NZ or Oz vendors?

3 points
 
by BuryMeInSmokealmost 9 years ago

NN gets a bit of hate around here for sending out nic that was stronger than advertised. Personally I haven't had any problems and my last few lots of nicotine have been from them.

Concentrates I mostly get from Bull City Vapor or GremlinDIY (USA). I've ordered a couple times from juicefactory.com.au - prices aren't too bad and shipping is a bit faster than from the US. I haven't used any NZ vendors for concentrates.

I get my PG and VG from http://www.purenature.co.nz/ - better to get PG/VG locally as shipping kilos of the stuff from the US isn't cheap.

Hope that helps!

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by dhoulettealmost 9 years ago

I am new to mixing and greatly appreciate this amazing resource of information and the helping sharing attitude of everyone here. In using vanillas in mixes should you allow the mix to breathe in the steeping process. I have mixed a few up steeped up to 3 weeks and they all have a kind of metallic after taste on the exhale. I have not allowed any to breathe. Perhaps thats the way all vanillas should taste. Any info on this would be much appreciated.

2 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

If you list the specific flavors you're using, that would help. Are you referring to TFA French Vanilla Creme in your question?

3 points
 
by dhoulettealmost 9 years ago

TFA vanilla swirl, INW Vanilla Shisha and Vanilla Custard (Flavorah). All seem to have that aftertaste to them. Again perhaps it is the way they are supposed to taste. Perhaps metallic is not the best description. But does breathing help vanillas and off tastes in general?

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Hmmm I don't get a metallic taste from any of those flavorings. You sure you're using them at respectable percentages? Breathing your mix might help if you're using a flavoring with alcohol in it, but I never breathe any of my liquids and I use vanilla flavorings quite often. Could it maybe be a coil issue?

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by halvardralmost 9 years ago
  1. What's the largest syringe size that people use, greater than 10 mL? Can you provide a link to purchase?

  2. What's the volume of a 1" and 1.5" blunt tip needle?

  3. Do people put clear nail polish on their syringe increment markers? I thought I heard that somewhere

  4. What's the best spatula to use for graduated cylinders? Can you provide a link to purchase?

  5. Can I put an RDA on a PICO? My B&M shop says I need something with more wattage. I was thinking the Wotofo Lush.

5 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

For your first four questions I am going to recommend getting a scale and mixing by weight. As for the RDA and Pico, yes you can do that. Just make sure you get a 22mm RDA.

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by automaticfailurealmost 9 years ago
  1. I have a 1ml syringe. Only used for nicotine.
  2. Not sure, but probably something like .05-.1 grams
  3. I don't. Since I mix buy weight I don't really care about the labels. Nail polish or clear tape should work fine.
  4. No idea, mixing buy weight is so much easier. No need for graduated cylinders.
  5. Yes you can as long as it's 22mm. I usually have a single coil rda on mine. Build higher ohms (.5+) Your B+M doesn't know shit it seems.
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by Tiptup300almost 9 years ago

1-4, A lot of people will recommend mixing by weight. I do, it seems convenient to me.... certain elements seem more conveienent mixing by volume...but honestly weight to me just seems looooooooooooooads quicker/easier/less cleanup/cheaper over time.

Something to consider.

For #5 I would possibly go to a different B&M store.... 75watts is more than enough, honestly 40Watts would be on the low end but still more than enough if you build conservatively. Maybe the guy really wanted to make a big sale? 50watts I feel is around the sweet spot for most average vaping.

EDIT: Random, but heres a great mod at a good price, it's a very simple mod, totally nonadjustable, but for that I like it. It always outputs the same wattage or voltage, not sure which, about ~~50 or 60 watts~~ 100 watts I guess?. One of my personal favorites. What you build for it is what you get out of it. And it has all the typical safeties built in plus a light that shows you the current battery status. And amazing battery life.

http://www.gearbest.com/mechanical-mods/pp_203669.html

3 points
 
by Aveira_Shieldheartalmost 9 years ago

Hi! I am getting ready to start mixing my own juices and have read a lot of guides on how to do it - I'm confident that I'll be fine in that department. However I'm feeling a bit overwhelmed with the amount of choices in aromas. Obviously I know which flavors I like from premade ejuices, but there's just so many companies to choose from! I've read some aroma reviews (from the sidebar on this subreddit and other sources) - I know you all pride yourself in making your own recipes combined out of several aromas, however my question is: can you recommend any brands that have fully mixed aromas (perhaps you have tips for the specific flavors too?) OR can you recommend any of the well known aromas from TFA, TPA, CAP etc. as a single flavor? I would like to be able to find 10ml bottles as I want to try things before I commit to mixing larger batches.

For reference, it's easier for me to say what I don't like (as the like list is way too long). Do not like: tobacco, strong coffee, chocolate, herbs and spices, anise, licorice, coconut, strong alcohol and cinnamon only in light notes. Thanks a lot for your help, I really appreciate it!

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

I haven't personally been especially happy with any TFA or CAP flavors that I've tried as a single flavor, but I have really enjoyed some INW, FA, and FLV flavors that way. Are you from a place where only TFA, CAP, and maybe FW are readily available to you?

Others have said they like 8% TFA Strawberry Ripe, 8% TFA Banana Cream, 5% CAP Blueberry Cinnamon Crumble, 6% TFA Strawberry, 8% CAP Vanilla Custard V1, 4% CAP Harvest Berry, and 8% TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, to name a few, all by themselves.

2 points
 
by Aveira_Shieldheartalmost 9 years ago

Hi, thanks for taking the time to comment and help out! I'm from the Netherlands and would be ordering from within the country or neighbouring countries (Both Germany and the UK seem to have a lot of good websites) to keep shipping fees low and avoid import taxes. Some brands that I have found on several websites: Chef's vapour, Chef's choice, Capella, Flavor west, Mom & pop, Perfumer's apprentice, Flavor art, Inawera, Flavorah, Flavormonk and Real flavors.

I'm on a budget (and have read about the recommendations) which is why I would prefer to find aroma's that are nice to vape standalone - I figure I can always start mixing when the collection of aromas and my experience grows. I'll write down the suggestions you mentioned, I really appreciate it!

2 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

> I figure I can always start mixing when the collection of aromas and my experience grows.

Honestly, the best way to do this is to find like 3 recipes that you think you'd like and that are well regarded. Buy the flavorings for those three recipes so you can make them and you'll also be building your collection at the same time. I make single flavor recipes all the time and there are very few that I won't vape until it's gone so you shouldn't have too much of a problem vaping anything by itself especially if you're on a tight budget.

1 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Chef's Vapour and Chef's choice may have some really good standalone flavors that I'm not aware of, same for Flavormonks. Maybe one of our UK or EU DIYers will come along and help you with those?

Flavorah and Real Flavors, for the most part, might have some great standalone flavors (my all-time favorite standalone flavor is FLV Mango) but they might not be the best for your budget. FA and INW tend to be a bit pricer in the US (not sure about European prices since they are imported to the US from Europe), but don't be afraid to spend that money, because they are much more highly concentrated for the most part, which means you'll use less. Try FA Fuji (apple) at 3%, I think you'll find it's widely agreed upon as an excellent standalone flavor, though you might get bored with it eventually. These next ones are more personal choices and others may disagree, but I also like FA Marzipan (3%) and INW Lemon Cake (2.5%) very much by themselves.

3 points
 
by kyb0talmost 9 years ago

What would you guys recommend as the best way to test new flavorings? I've mixed up about 20 samples at 5%, 70/30 blend (which is what I normally try to vape), 0 nic (normally vape 2-3mg), and then when I go to taste test I just rewick my RDA with really short wicks that just pass through the coil and don't go all the way down into the juice well. Does that sound about right?

Thanks for all the advice everyone here has compiled. This is a lot of fun and I can see how much money you can save... I started out with about 30 8ml sample flavors from WizardLabs and I just got a shipment from /u/ckive for the Halloween group buy which should keep me stocked for a long time now. It's cool to mess around and make my own blends but also being able to mix up other people's recipes when I just want something that I know will taste good on the first mix.

5 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Yes, the half-wick method is an excellent way to test flavors.

Look around to see what others are using it at rather than just going blind at 5% across the board. Some flavors that are wonderful at much lower or somewhat higher %'s are going to suck at 5%.

As for the nicotine, people have different thoughts on that but I always put it in mine. I'm going to be vaping it with nicotine anyway, might as well test it that way. But that's just me.

3 points
 
by kyb0talmost 9 years ago

Good point. You and ckive both mentioned to look at what concentrations seem to be commonly used, so I'll keep that in mind for the next round of flavor testing.

4 points
 
by ckivealmost 9 years ago

Sounds like you're already doing it right. :)

There's no wrong way to do single flavor testing. Some folks prefer to be very thorough and test different concentrations at various points in time. Personally for me, I tend to do it more along the lines of how you're doing it already -- I do tend to look at ATF, ELR, and notes in here to figure out what relative concentration it's going to work at -- but for me I'm more trying to get a handle on a flavor others already know well, more than figure out how to integrate a brand new flavor that isn't well-documented.

Hope you enjoy the group buy kit! :)

3 points
 
by wafflepriest1almost 9 years ago

/u/ID10-T gave great advice as always, I just wanted to mention something on the nicotine.

I used to test with nicotine included to see how it effects the final flavor, but I had a bad habit of adding too much nic. And I only mix 5ml samples so that extra drop or two would usually make a fair bit of difference, in a bad way. So I stopped using nicotine in my single flavor tests because the size was too small for any errors with nicotine. Plus I didn't really notice a major difference between with nic or without nic, minus the slight kick and bite from the nic. I'm sure someone with more control would have much less of an issue with this.

3 points
 
by kyb0talmost 9 years ago

Good point. I won't be adding nicotine because I am indeed mixing 5ml samples and I'm sure I would add too much nic as well.

3 points
 
by ClarkTheShark94almost 9 years ago

Is there any reason to keep a bottle of sweetener around? And, what's the difference between sucrose and, say, cap super sweet?

1 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

IIRC, TFA Sweetener is 10 % sucralose, CAP Super Sweet is 20% sucralose. Meaning if something calls for "sweetener", you can almost bet that it's TFA, and you'd only have to use half of much to get the same effect with CAP Super Sweet.

The only reason I keep it around is because I mix for a couple people who insist on it being in their juice, despite the fact that it destroys coils so quickly.

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

TFA Sweetener is 5% sucralose and 5% maltol, but you are right that it's not nearly as strong as Super Sweet. I think /u/tranceinate brought up in a thread a while ago that CAP Super Sweet is no bueno since it has two nasty preservatives in it so be aware of that.

6 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Totally depends on your definition of "no bueno." One of those preservatives can possibly make you sterile. CAP Super Sweet is a lot cheaper than a vasectomy without insurance covering it. Just sayin.

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Thanks for the clarification. :)

3 points
 
by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

I'm going to place my first order this weekend. Anyone want to go over my list and check it for me with some suggestions? I'm going to order everything from Bull City.

The flavors I'm getting are all 10-13ml bottles:

Cap Vanilla Custard.

TFA Cheesecake with graham cracker.

INW Shisha Strawberry.

TFA Strawberry Ripe.

TFA Banana Cream.

LA Banana Cream.

FW Blueberry.

TFA Bavarian Cream.

INW Shisha Vanilla.

TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream.

Cap Cinnamon Danish Swirl.

The hardware I'm getting is:

1 10pack of 30ml plastic containers, 1000ml VG, 225ml PG, 3 1ml syringes, 3 3ml syringes, 3 10ml syringes, 9 needle tips for syringes, 65mm funnel, 1 50ml plastic beaker.

It all comes to 46$ with the black friday coupon and shipping brings it to 56$. This is just about 4$ shy of my budget but I still need nicotine. I was going to get Caronlina X nic to get the best quality but I can't afford it right now So I'm either going to step down the Nicotine quality or wait to order the nicotine at my next paycheck. Am I missing anything, or have any suggestions?

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

At some point, you'll want some CAP Sugar Cookie. Other than that, some might recommend a scale rather than syringes. It will definitely pay for itself in terms of time and less stuff to clean.

This seems to be the scale of choice for most mixers.

I believe this is the one I use, cost less than $10. Only drawback is with the 100g capacity, I can't use my beakers, but it works fine for mixing 100mL or less in a plastic bottle.

3 points
 
by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

Yeah a scale will be on the next purchase but I don't think it is necessary until I start making a lot of juice. When you suggest sugar cookie from cap, do you mean v1 or v2. I just went with v1 of all the suggestions you gave me that had a v2 or v2.

2 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Most people prefer v1 due to its taste, but the v2 is made without diacetyl, acetoin, or acetyl propionyl and has a tendency to taste rather funky and require a longer steep. Many people (myself included) don't mind a little bit of these ingredients, but the beauty of DIY is that the choice is ultimately yours.

3 points
 
by SuperDerpBroalmost 9 years ago

Are there any tricks to keep a scale from auto shut off?

Made a mistake i rarely make.. bought something without thoroughly looking into it first heh.

First attempt at mixing by weight = FAIL! :(

I figured that it wouldn't turn off if it was continuing to read a constant change in weight and that i would just let it turn off/tare between ingredients :/

At least it wasn't expensive haha

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/172256766737?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

My scale has a one minute idle shut off, which is a bit of a nuisance, but tap it once at any point and the timer resets.

It absolutely shouldn't shut off while things are happening, that makes it utterly useless :( Get a refund if possible. I use one of these generic designs, even cheaper:

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/500g-x-0-01g-Digital-Pocket-Gram-Scale-Jewelry-Weight-Electronic-Balance-Scale-X-/282132935919?hash=item41b06ef4ef:g:mLUAAOSwZVlXraHX

2 points
 
by SuperDerpBroalmost 9 years ago

Thanks ill try that.. i was doing flavor when it happened. Small test mix to. Maybe it wouldn't turn off if i was adding more than a few drops at a time very slowly.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Quite possible, worth a shot. If you're lucky there may be some way to disable that feature with a bit of Googling, but you get used to tapping the scale too :)

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

You should ditch that scale anyways, as it doesn't look like it is accurate enough to use to mix.

1 points
 
by SuperDerpBroalmost 9 years ago

i tested it on all kinds of small things that say their weight.. give or take everything was what it said it was. I've made a few 5ml and 10ml tests that came out fine. Just finished making 4 100ml bottles .. seems like it's working fine to me. :P

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Yikes, I completely missed that. He's talking about the precision, you kinda need 0.01g accuracy. Which also explains why it shut itself off on you, as it wouldn't even register just a few drops.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Well that's why it is shutting off on you. Also, it's not precise enough. You need a scale that will measure to .01g accuracy

2 points
 
by gobiscoalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

So I really don't like PG... And winter is coming.

I tend to make max VG juice which gets hard to handle in freezing temperatures & obviously wicking issues.

Could anyone talk about adding distilled water (DW) to their mixes?

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Seems like the best idea would be to start at 1% distilled water. From just a brief search of "distilled water" in this sub I gathered that you don't need much DW to help max vg with wicking. DW will lower the flash point of the liquid and it's debatable whether or not it helps with flavor. I have never used DW in a mix, but if you search on here for DW, there are quite a few threads with good info.

1 points
 
by DGsirb1978almost 9 years ago

Would PDO be an alternative?

2 points
 
by ItsNickROFLalmost 9 years ago

Hopefully someone can give a complete noob a hand here. Looking to get into DIY I've done as much research as possible, however looking for a little more direct information. Any help is greatly appreciated as to what to buy, where, costs, and even how to go about doing it. Thanks in advance

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

A bunch of beginner's guides.

Verified vendors.

All about nicotine.

Great video on getting started.

Guide to mixing by weight.

There's no way you did as much research as possible because it never ends and the questions you're asking are the most basic. If you want more in depth answers about specific questions, let me know.

3 points
 
by ItsNickROFLalmost 9 years ago

Thanks for the help. That's mostly what I was looking for something of that nature because sure I found most of those articles. But to be honest I had no idea what I was reading

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Watch the video I linked and that will help you understand more about the information you're trying to absorb. After you watch the video, go back and read the info again. Plus, the dude has an awesome voice. If you notice some blood rushing to your nether regions, it's normal and has happened to all of us!

Also, all of that information is located in the sidebar of this sub. Most everything you could ever want to know is located there.

2 points
 
by baconmanlovesbaconalmost 9 years ago

Where can I purchase favors vg and Pg?

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Verified vendors from the famous sidebar. Tons of useful info there, well worth the time to read.

Welcome!

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

It depends on where you are located.

2 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

www.bulkapothecary.com should have it cheap this weekend.

"savings10" should give you 10% off your order as well.

edit: VG and PG only, not flavors

2 points
 
by Mhansel411almost 9 years ago

Been mixing for about 2 years now so not new, but the question I have could be considered as a new mixer question. Don't wanna clog up the sub with a question and get crucified for this...but I have a question about Menthol juice. My Father in Law only vapes a straight menthol juice from Vape Dojo and am looking to mix him up a big ol' batch for Christmas. The question I have is for the menthol bakers of the world. What flavor "menthol" works best for a straight menthol juice as well as a %. My experience is mostly with bakery and the likes and the only menthol in my tool box is Koolada. Any help would be appreciated.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Koolada is not menthol. But I like FA Arctic Winter. Extreme Ice by FW is also good

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Koolada: It's menthol without the menth

2 points
 
by Mhansel411almost 9 years ago

Awesome thanks for the info. What % do you suggest with that?

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

http://e-liquid-recipes.com/recipe/515193/Freeze

Here is an old recipe of mine. I make this for my father, because he's weird and likes to add menthol to everything.

2 points
 
by OG_Cottonalmost 9 years ago

Not really a new person but this doesn't warrant a thread. What is the best value for plastic 30ml unicorn bottles on Amazon? I'm looking at like 25-50 bottles since my friends want juice too.

I'm not picky if it's a tube style or fat bottle just want the most bang for the buck

2 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

50 cents each here. I know they're not on Amazon, but these are the ones I use and they're great!

1 points
 
by TogiraIkonoka0618almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

I have always had really good luck with these

2 points
 
by laketoastalmost 9 years ago

So I'm not really new to diy juices, but I have a new mod (snow wolf) and geekvape's eagle rta. (Was using a kbox mini w/mutation v4). But when using the new setup I've noticed that the juices that I make have a harsher throat hit than when on the old setup.

So I'm wondering, is this because I'm using more wattage? Does it happen to be my pg/vg/ mix at 30/70? Or do I just have to let it steep for longer?

If it's not any of these please let me know, I'll share a recipe I make that's in the tank right now to see if it's the recipes themselves.

Thanks for any input.

2 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Yeah, include the recipe

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by laketoastalmost 9 years ago

Costarica special (mango) (FA) 3.5% Passion fruit (CAP) 6% Sweet Guava (CAP) 6%

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by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

Hmmm I haven't used those first two ingredients. 6% CAP Sweet Guava seems just a tad high to me, but that shouldn't cause harsh throat hit. It could be your nicotine or just that you're not used to a tank set up just yet

3 points
 
by UncleManifestoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

FA Mango is pretty harsh at that percentage. I found it to have a bitter taste too at anything more than 2%.

2 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimalmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Trying to get my mom to stop smoking. I just ordered her an icare. I've been mixing for a while for myself and some friends, but it's all high VG for dripping and RTAs. Question: should I bump up my percentages in the juice I make her? I'm going higher on the nic and PG, just not sure if I should keep the flavorings the same. Never mixed for those tiny starter kits before.

2 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

I would keep them the same, see how she likes it. The added pg should make it flavorful for her. 50/50 to start?

And FWIW, my mom and my wife's stepmom both preferred just single and double flavor juices over the more complex ones. I don't know why, but just what kept them both vaping. Good luck!

3 points
 
by ChemicalBurnVictimalmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Yeah I'm just going with the basic 50/50 for now. Give her a decent throat hit and hopefully enough flavor. It would make things real easy for me if she ends up wanting a simpler mix. Fingers crossed! Thanks for the answer! I was worried no one would see it since it's not stickied.

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by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

You can do 70/30 just fine. I do 60/40 in my icare at 10mg/mL when I normally vape 70/30 2mg/mL. Like /u/coop34 mentioned, stick to simpler recipes and, in my opinion, you're gonna wanna turn things up a bit in terms of percentages and flavor. The icare coils are not that good for flavor at all. I mixed up a strawberry banana cream for my icare using percentages that I would normally use for an RDA/RTA and I'm not getting much flavor at all.

Stick to dominant flavors and ditch the accent notes in recipes for the icare.

Edit: FWIW this is the recipe I made that I was referring to:

LA Banana Cream 2%

TFA Banana Cream 1%

TFA Straw Ripe 3%

JF Strawberry Sweet 2%

FLV Cream 1%

2 points
 
by Chriswheelaalmost 9 years ago

Is it just me or does FA Mad Fruit not taste like redbull at all! I'm mixing it at 3% 5% 8% on a 50/50 1.4mg but just nothing but sweetness. No flavour :(

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Try steeping it for a few days, the flavor might come out more with time. Haven't tried it myself, but check out the Notes section of the flavor on ELR to see what others have said.

Hangsen's version tasted just like Red Bull though, if you can get your hands on that.

Red Bull to me is mostly artificial raspberry.

1 points
 
by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

to add on, bull city flavors carries the red bull that /u/leapinglabrats mentioned. haven't personally tried it.

2 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashuralmost 9 years ago

Wondering if anyone has used monk fruit exract as a substitute for EM. I have never used ethyl mathol before and the only 'additive' I have experience with is koolada.

Nude nic says it can be used to directly replace EM.

I have also never used sweeteners before.

Just wondering if anyone notices differences and similarities.

I'm using NN monk fruit in PG.

Thanks for any input.

2 points
 
by bogey_againalmost 9 years ago

I purchased a few sweeteners from NN. Personally I feel like the sweetener in most flavorings is enough in my juice. Here is a Reddit review on their sweeteners

I agree about the "Monk Fruit Extract" it's good in a bakery type vape, it has a spice flavor to it

Erythritol 5% - is my favorite also

Stevia (Organic Reb-A) - OK but has a little harshness to it. I do not get “wet” feeling like others do

2 points
 
by HashSlingingSlashuralmost 9 years ago

What do you notice with erythritol? Is it really sweet to you?

I dripped it straight onto my rda and it wasn't notably sweet.

2 points
 
by bogey_againalmost 9 years ago

It is not as sweet as EM. Even their site states it's 1/4 – 1/2 the sweetness of sucralose in vaping solutions with a recommended working range from 1% -5%.

2 points
 
by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

I am looking to hop into DIY and have watched a few videos on it and such. Seems easy enough but as a first time there are things I'm sure about like, how to VG PG and Nic to buy for the start since I won't know how far the amounts stretch, where to buy from(I'd prefer to bundle it all if possible), and some other things. Maybe I can add you on facebook and we can talk over messenger? I'm looking to spend 40$ if I can get away with that.

2 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

Eventually you're going to want a scale like this one so you can mix by weight, which is so much easier than messing around with syringes, but that's factored into a usual start-up cost of around $100. If you're eager to hop into DIY and want to take advantage of a good Black Friday deal, you might want to look into this kit, as using the TODAY ONLY Coupon code "HOLIDAYS" will get you close to that $40, and you get free shipping as well. You can get Nicotine (I'd recommend the PG based), PG and VG bases, 10 60ml bottles, and 15 flavors that way, that will at least get you started. Later, again, you'll probably want to invest in a scale, and you'll want more empty bottles, maybe higher quality nicotine if you have any issues with the nicotine base there (I haven't tried it but I know it's not top-of-the-line), and of course, more flavors.

As for the first order flavors, your best bet is going to be looking for recipes that sound good to you and are well-reviewed and buying the stuff to make those. If you're pressed too pressed for time to do that today, at least check out this list of suggested first-order flavors. Also allow me to personally recommend TFA Strawberry Ripe, CAP Vanilla Custard V1, CAP Sugar Cookies V1, TFA Strawberry, TFA Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, TFA Bavarian Cream, TFA Vanilla Swirl, TFA Dragonfruit, FA Fuji, TFA Cheesecake Graham Crust, LA Banana Cream, TFA Marshmallow, and CAP Cinnamon Danish Swirl as the best I can do for versatile first-order flavors without knowing what you're interested in.

Obviously if we knew more about what you enjoy we could suggest some specific recipes or other flavors for you.

2 points
 
by Jrose152almost 9 years ago

When it comes to the flavors, I see the vendor is next to the name. Would I be fine making flavors mixing vendors with just one flavor company? Say there was a TFA strawberry vanilla and a CAP strawberry cheesecake, but all my flavors come rom TFA. Can I still make the cap flavors with TFA for the most part? Also which kit do you like better, the one you linked, or this one? https://www.liquidbarn.com/products/starter-kit?variant=2033253316

I'm looking into making simple flavors to start with. Fruits, custard, desert, etc. I usually go with 2-3mg of Nic really just to keep my self from vaping non stop since its kind of expensive. I find the nic helps me regulate my intake because I will get a headache if I vape too much. I usually order oasisvape juice for 120ml 15$ bottles since it's so cheap so I'm not exactly used to premium flavors. If I can at least diy their quality I'll be perfectly happy.

1 points
 
by ID10-Talmost 9 years ago

The flavors made by one company are often wildly different than the ones made by another. Sometimes you can substitute one for the other, such as using TFA Strawberry or Vanilla Bean Ice Cream when the recipe calls for CAP Sweet Strawberry or CAP Vanilla Bean Ice Cream, but other times that won't work at all. For example, if a delicious recipe calls for CAP New York Cheesecake and you try using TFA Cheesecake instead, there's a good chance you're going to vomit when you try it. There's no reason not to order flavors from different companies.

I don't usually recommend kits at all, but under your circumstances and budget it seemed like a good idea for you. I never recommend the Liquid Barn kit because it comes with stuff you don't need AND it only comes with Liquid Barn flavors, which few people use, so you won't get much to go on as far as help with recipes. Their flavors aren't widely regarded as being especially good, though I can't say because I've never mixed with them. On the other other hand, if their coupon code applies to that kit, with the marked down price on it as well, it could be a good option for you. A lot of good mixers started out that way, I'm sure, before branching out into other flavors. It would be better if you could get some recommendations on which flavors to pick from people who've used them, if you decide to go that route, instead of just guessing which ones might be decent.

Either way, I doubt you'll have any trouble DIY'ing Oasisvape quality.

2 points
 
by JanickGersalmost 9 years agoMentholatier

Hi everyone! This week I started mixing, and I'm getting interesting results, varying from "Oh God what have I done" to "Holy fuck this is a good vape". My question is about the microbubbles. I've noticed that they go to the top of the juice when steeping, but if I shake the bottle they're all over the liquid again. What makes them go away? Will they ever? Is it ok to vape the liquid without shaking first? I'm using 70VG/30PG for now, but I'm thinking of going higher on the PG because of weak throat hit and I don't want to increase the nicotine (6 mg) because of headaches.

3 points
 
by goldfish18almost 9 years agoWinner of the 1st DIYorDIE World Mixing Championship

The little bubbles are normal and will go away eventually, but they'll return when you shake it again. Always shake anything you use before using it (flavors, nic, and your finished liquids).

2 points
 
by s1eeper21almost 9 years ago

Beginner here... looking for "Shake n Vape" recipes.. trying to avoid steep time. Preferably only 3-4 flavors max with no sweetners. Thank u :)

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

/r/ShakeAndVape might have some decent ones, but generally most fruits with a lower % of cream are pretty good SnV.

2 points
 
by s1eeper21almost 9 years ago

thanks my man!

3 points
 
by coop34almost 9 years ago

Post your list here, should get some suggestions. Like whiskey said, generally fruits are good the next day.

2 points
 
by s1eeper21almost 9 years ago

thanks xD

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Most of the time, fruit only mixes are good to go right away

2 points
 
by s1eeper21almost 9 years ago

I'm using smok t8 baby coils, so I just want something light to keep these coils going for a good week or so.

2 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Those coils are absolutely terrible. You are only going to get a good week out of them regardless. I highly recommend the RBA section for that tank

2 points
 
by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Obviously not a new mixer here but I have a fairly basic question. I recently dropped my nicotine intake to zero. However, due to work related issues, I've been craving the nicotine and finding myself going back to smoking ciggies. Now I know if you DIY, you can just custom fit your own nic levels (1 or 1.5%). Problem is, I purchased ejuice from a vendor and he only has 6 nic or 8. Now I've tried it but it's too harsh on my throat. How exactly do I go about diluting the nic and reducing throat hit? Math is hard.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Not sure if you're serious but I'll take the bait ;)

Multiply the source strength with the source volume to get the amount of nic you're dealing with, then divide that by the desired strength to get the total volume of juice to make, then just subtract the source volume to see how much PG/VG to add.

For example, if you have 30 ml of 6 mg juice and you want 2 mg:

6 mg * 30 ml = 180 mg of nic

180 / 2 = 90 ml of juice

90 - 30 = 60 ml of PG/VG to add

This will give you 90 ml of 2 mg/ml juice with very diluted flavor.

2 points
 
by thedirtyprojectoralmost 9 years agoMixologist

Totally serious. I've not done anything like this before and my math is atrocious. Thanks by the way. Hopefully it doesn't completely fuck up the flavour.

2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Hehe okay, I'm sure this could be put into a juice calculator too though, using the juice as the nic base. I just prefer doing it by hand.

It'll be pretty weak for sure, but knowing vendor juice it was probably overflavored to begin with.

1 points
 
by cuprienkalmost 9 years ago

Any recipe suggestions for

  • Capella chocolate glaze donut
  • TFA Pralines & cream
  • TFA French vanilla Thank you
2 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Hi, Wayne's Bronuts recipe is a good use of the first one. I'll refer to ELR, ATF or our Suggest a recipe for me thread for the other ones.

1 points
 
by Chriswheelaalmost 9 years ago

I'll have to try that one cheers buddy! I've steeped it before. But just nothing :( but I'll give that a go. I hear the pineapple is amazing from there too

1 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

Bummer, but it does seem fairly weak by FA standards. Yea, Hangsen has some amazing flavors, but at second thought it was some other brand, not Hangsen. I'll get back to you if I remember, it's been two years since I tried it.

-1 points
 
by tylurnt1almost 9 years ago

As Some of you know I posted a formated 5 paragraph writing about how to clean bottles etc and the day before that I posted about ECX. get this message from the admin, I believe it's whiskey something. I know I did something wrong and shouldn't have posted, but to say things he did was not right. I couldn't believe what I was reading. I wanted to add that a month and a half ago I had my run in with that same admin. I just started DIY and didn't realize HOW strict this sub was and I didn't read the side bar (I've only had Reddit for 3 months now and at the time didn't know what a sidebar was) here's a screen shot of what the admin sent me

http://imgur.com/Y5X8yNg

I went through the DIY sub and found many simple question posts and advice posts that are under 1 paragraph and mine was 5 or 6. Here are the links to those posts, and these are only from the last 3 days

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5f33fm/anyone_tries_nicotinerivers_new_flavors_river/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5f3p9w/advice_for_sweetening_100_vg/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5f3pau/premixing_flavors_for_goto_recipes/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5f1yjc/cap_ny_cheescake_v2_thoughts/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5exlu7/cheapest_pgvg_sellers_uk/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5exalv/trying_to_find_a_specific_flavor/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5eqkz6/canadian_nicotine_suppliers_and_label_suppliers/

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5enxk5/i_need_your_tips_for_that_sugar_syrup_effect/

3 points
 
by leapinglabratsalmost 9 years ago

If you're rubbing the mods the wrong way you should probably tone it down instead of posting even more.

-3 points
 
by tylurnt1almost 9 years ago

None of that should have been said to me and I don't use this sub enough to deeply care about it honestly

2 points
 
by Boondocalmost 9 years ago

the drugs comment was over the top but comparing your posting history on the sub vs the rest of his message i can't really find fault in it. despite the number of times being told to use the new mixers questions thread you continued to shit up the sub with questions the could easily have been answered even using the shitty built in reddit search.

1 points
 
by EdibleMalfunctionalmost 9 years agoThat Sugar Cookie Guy

Then don't post here? If you can't follow the rules or be bothered to search at all, then leave. There's a reason why we have rules. Speaking of, this doesn't belong in this thread.

3 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

You should also go ahead and post your response to that message, along with my apology for my tone and a thorough explanation of what I'm trying to accomplish for coming down on you like I did.

If you feel have a legitimate complaint about getting a stern warning rather than another ban, feel free to take it up with the other mods via modmail. Rules #1 and #2 apply to everyone, including you. I'm sick of seeing you repeatedly post things that belong in the new mixers thread, or can be found by a simple search.

EDIT: Might I also add in the fact that you've had at least 3 prior post removals and a temp ban. I don't know how many more warnings you feel you need, but out of nearly 30,000 subscribers, you seem to be the only one currently whining about the rules.

-1 points
 
by tylurnt1almost 9 years ago

Like I said, there's SEVERAL simple question posts each day that u apparently don't both to remove. Why is it only me that "mods have to clean up these shit posts of yours" but again the others arent?

1 points
 
by wh1skeyk1ngalmost 9 years agoThanks for reading this flair

Like I said, you should post the entire conversation, not just the part where you got your ass chewed. Maybe I can go back and post some things from your comment/post history as well and everyone can decide if you were shitposting or not.

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