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Native Tobacco (Flavorah)
submitted almost 9 years ago by T_Maceresident tobacco specialist

I recently got word directly from Flavorah that their flavs are designed to be good as a shake n vape. I personally have noticed that they are indeed great early on in the steep. Tobacco heads should be particularly pleased by this knowledge, considering we're used to steeping our baccos as long as it takes to age a good single malt scotch whiskey.

Specs:

  • percentage used: 5%
  • 4 day steep
  • PG/VG ratio: 50/50
  • vaped on Digiflavor Siren GTA MTL, SS316L, 26 gauge, 0.60 ohm coil, 12-18 watts

 

Flavor Properties:

  • roll your own type tobacco
  • full body
  • lightly sweet, spicy
  • spice adds brightness, while the sweet note smooths out the overall profile
  • medium complexity

 

Relatable Flavors:

  • tastes like how fresh, lightly aromatic tobacco smells
  • spicy tobacco leaf
  • touch of honey on the exhale
  • medium ash
  • when smelling the juice in bottle I get subtle nut, like Acetyl Pyrazine, it does not jump out at you when vaping but I believe it's hiding under the spice and honey, adding body to the profile

 

Mouth Feel:

  • medium/thick density
  • sharp (spice note) on the inhale, smooth on the exhale with spice moving to the background

 

Off Flavors:

  • none

 

Position In A Recipe:

  • top note or middle note
  • makes a great focal point in a recipe, even as a top note, it could be the star of the show

 

Pairings:

  • dark tobaccos (cigar, burley)
  • strong tobaccos (perique, latakia)
  • other spicy tobaccos (INW Am4a, FLV Kentucky Blend)
  • Irish Cream (Might make angel's sing, no promises but could be what clouds in heaven taste like. Pretty sure though.)
  • dark, rich vanilla (example: Vanilla Bourbon of your choice)
  • fig, raisin, plum, prune (to mimic that note many of us smell in fresh tobacco)
  • dry nut (example: FLV Pistachio)
  • Acetyl Pyrazine (like 0.25%)
  • cream
  • custard
  • bonus: citrus flavor like a bright orange would take it in a completely different direction and might add that 'je ne sais quoi" to a mix

 

Suggested Percentage:

  • 3-5% for full on bold flavor
  • 1% or less for top note.
  • I've recently tried upping FLV tobaccos to a whopping 8% and the flavors hold true. If you like it extra bold, you can certainly take it there without causing weird off notes.

 

Conclusion:

  • Oh ya, she's a keeper.
  • Consider this a cousin of Kentucky Blend. Fairly similar I'd say. Native Tobacco is a bit sweeter with that honey note. I'm glad I own both. Will have to try pairing them.
  • Very, very vapeable as a single flavor but this baby will be great for spicing up a dark tobacco.

 

Suggested Recipe:

  • have only spent an hour or so with the flav but I'm gonna work on a roll your own type recipe. Native Tobacco front and centre, dark rich tobacco in the background, fig/plum/raisin/or prune as a top note, and maybe a lil INW Dirty Neutral Base to dirty up the mix.
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3 points
 
by CheebaSteebaalmost 9 years agoFrugivore

Awesome man, thanks for the review! I didn't see this one when I was going through their tobaccos but now I think I'll have to check it out. I wonder if they were going for like an american spirit type of tobacco or something.

> no promises but could be what clouds in heaven taste like

Lol this is great btw

2 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

>american spirit type

Ya I was thinking the same thing myself. It definitely will need some extras to get all the way there. Maybe Black Fire for smokeyness and a few other things.

2 points
 
by Davidthelogicalmost 9 years ago

Keep them coming! How do you feel the Siren does with tobaccos?

5 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

It's great with tobaccos! Only thing I've tried it with actually. So far loving that tank. Easy to build on (compared to Kayfun Mini V3), wicks like a champ, great flavor, decent vapor.

1 points
 
by Ktzero3almost 9 years ago

Hows the flavor and airflow compared to mini v3? I love the Kayfun but trapping wires under those tiny screws is not fun.

3 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Airflow is perfect for me on the smallest hole but Kayfun can go tighter for sure. But you could just close half the hole on the Siren and get a really tight draw.

Flavor is pretty bomb I gotta say. Still have to do a side by side comparison with same juice on Siren and Kayfun but so far Siren is holding up it's end of the bargain.

1 points
 
by contactclosurealmost 9 years ago

Thanks a lot for the review. I like FLV Cured Tobacco but only use it in the 0.1-0.3% range in a mix. Looks like Native tobacco is a lot weaker. Do you have any experience with Cured? Native sounds more useful but I have a hard time paying FLV prices for something I have to use 5% of.

Also, just started playing with FLV Irish cream and my first thought was to add tobacco. Agreed, its beauty will probably bring people to tears.

3 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

>its beauty will probably bring people to tears.

Hahah good to hear. I have FLV Irish Cream but haven't tried it yet. Guess that will be my go to for the clouds of heaven recipe lol.

Btw, Native Tobacco is strong, I mixed at 5% but I like a serious kick with my tobaccos. Considering you use Cured at 0.3%, I think you'll use Native at about the same. I've adjusted my suggested percent to reflect this. Forgot that not everyone wants balls to the wall tobacco taste :D

2 points
 
by contactclosurealmost 9 years ago

FLV Irish cream is better than the FA version in my very limited experience. At 2% standalone it's pretty awesome.

That's great to hear about the strength of native tobacco. Added to the next order list!

2 points
 
by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Nice. Gonna break out the Irish tonight after work and give it a whirl.

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