http://www.hurricanevapor.com/allflavors-2.html
Their entire recipe book is $100 - I cant afford it right now but will pay/trade just for the Malibu Lemon Drop recipe!!!
Edit: 11/20/16 - the site is shut down. Hurricane Vapor dude did deliver the file, finally. I have mixed feelings about the actual product - he did respond with some clarification about percentages and I finally got the recipe I was after, but it was a pretty poorly handled money grab. Dude sent a final email with recipe clarification to his mailing list (where I got the email about the recipe book to begin with) that was pretty sour:
Please note we have been forced to shutdown early due to grossly unethical behavior by some in the vaping community.
I think at least 3 - 4 people here actually bought the file - who knows how many across the country on the mailing list? Who knows how much this guy made on the way out? I would have bought it on sight if I had the money. Worth it to me. But now he is crying because a file he sold on the Internet is getting passed around.
Should have given it to the community - after all we kept him in business -or not.
Someone will buy it and publish it. It's just how these things go.
Well - if anyone buys it and wants part of the cost defrayed I would like to get that one Malibu Lemon Drop recipe.
that's good of you :) I'm sure someone will come along. I feel like I'm seeing more and more companies all over the vaping subs going out of business everyday.
OK. I am willing to do it if I can get enough of you to honestly commit. Reply to this and pm me if you want. I will purchase the recipe book and share the complete excel file with you if you want to share. How about 10 of us for $10 each? Just reply and pm me if you want in. I will take a leap of faith and trust in payment.
I am waiting for the email and I will put it on my sites homepage for all and for free. If you feel the need to donate something I don't want money but could use some help with my website www.diyvapers.com I want it to be a place where DIYers can sell anything and everything DIY. recipes, juice, homemade shelves and stands etc for mods and bottles. I also own www.banvaping.com and wanted to turn it into a satire site like the onion only it will make fun of the anti-vaping zealots. Any help and or ideas would be worth more to to me than money
So, you're going to take recipes that this company is selling to try and make some extra money(likely to assist them with paying for a PMTA), and post them on your own site.
Then ask for fucking donations to help pay for your site running?
That's probably the shittiest fucking thing I've seen posted on this subreddit.
edit: I also see some VERY similar juices being sold on your website, but without recipes posted for those? Are you only willing to post recipes that you're stealing? I'd LOVE to see the recipes for the two juices with glaring similarities to two very popular recipes from mixers that I personally know.
He literally specified he is not asking for monetary donations but for help getting one of his websites going and for suggestions for his other...take a second to reread his comment and calm down a tad.
Did he take them down? The only two I see are the PB cereal, and Pistachio RY4. I figure the PB Cereal is the one from Charlie Noble and the RY4 is from /u/Enyawreklaw
And this is why we cant have nice things
edit - Btw, I see you're selling ejuice on your site. Can you please post the recipes to those as I would love to see them. I mean it's only fair if you are going to deliberately share a recipe book that you paid for to others (and ask for money for your sites) that we should see your recipes as well.
Yup, this shits on anything remotely supportive this company did for the DIY scene. Even if they are selling them and it's expected to be shared because it's impossible to prevent, this commenter is taking a step further. Shitty.
Not to mention, recipes are fucking expensive. If you can create a marketable recipe, $800 for it is lowballing yourself. This company is selling 43 recipes for $100, which is a pittance. If someone offered me $100 for 43 recipes, I'd laugh them out of the fucking room.
You're going to have to spend a fair bit of money setting up your website, and you are likely going to need a better host than what you are on, because shared cheap hosting won't handle what you are looking to do. You'll have to buy plugins to get the site to do what you want, and they aren't cheap. On top of the fact that you're going to be depending on other people to put the content on your site if you want people to sell things on your site, and that is not a reliable way, unless you're adding the bulk of the content to your site. If you're posting stuff from other people without their permission expect to be seen on Wayne Walkers Wall of Shame and will end up being blacklisted in the community. Might want to rethink what you are doing as a business model.
Kind of bullshit that they are selling it for $100. I can guarantee you whoever buys it will be surprised to find out the recipes aren't that complicated.
What you mean not complicated? Like 3-4 flavor mixes?
Probably that and/or fairly common flavourings.
This. They aren't going to be "magical" recipes that people will go "oh wow! Never would have thought about that flavoring." Judging by their flavor names, I could probably guess what the flavor brands are without even trying the juice.
So the site is shut down. Hurricane Vapor dude did deliver the file, finally. I have mixed feelings about the actual product - he did respond with some clarification about percentages and I finally got the recipe I was after, but it was a pretty poorly handled money grab. Dude sent a final email with recipe clarification to his mailing list (where I got the email about the recipe book to begin with) that was pretty sour:
Please note we have been forced to shutdown early due to grossly unethical behavior by some in the vaping community.
I think at least 3 - 4 people here actually bought the file - who knows how many across the country on the mailing list? Who knows how much this guy made on the way out? I would have bought it on sight if I had the money. Worth it to me. But now he is crying because a file he sold on the Internet is getting passed around.
Should have given it to the community - after all we kept him in business -or not.
Just an update for the 6-8 people that have PM'd me and others that are interested. The book is paid for but has yet to be delivered to me via email. When it comes (tomorrow I figure?) I will get back with everyone via PM and get everything taken care of. I see that /u/Spamby36 is publishing for free on his website so if you would rather get it there no worries on my end!! Have a great night all and happy mixing!
I think these were intended to be Flavor Bases, not recipes. Thats why there are no percentages or PG/VG/NIC. If you mix up one of these bases according to the recipe, you would not actually be using the whole thing in your mix, you would only use a percentage of that base in your final mix. So lets say you whip up 100ml of the Berry Jello Shots Flavor Base, you might only mix that at 5-10 % in your actual mix which would be way less. Thats where the personal preference comes in. A 30 ml recipe might only have 3 grams or 3ml of this base added which equals 10%. Hopefully this makes sense. So you wouldn't actually be vaping 30% sweetener in a 30ml juice for what its worth lol.
I wish the price was a little cheaper as I would love to buy it but for $100, it's a little steep. It's awesome that they are doing it though.
I wrote them several times in the last year trying to get them to release this recipe on Reddit, because they were closing it out. Must have given them ideas...
Given them ideas to release their recipes for a price? At $100 a person? I'm sorry but that's insane. I'm sorry that they are going out of business and it sucks but all this is, is a last minute cash grab
I think they would have made more money selling it for a bit cheaper. $100 is a bit steep for something that will surely pop up online sooner or later.
It'll be "awesome" if we find juice companies that are closing down to share their recipes on this sub. I see a number of posts on the /r/Electronic_cigarette a week about small ejuice companies closing down.
If I had a juice line and was going out of the game, I would definitely share the recipes and have my recipes live on.
Is their stuff good?
Why are they selling their recipes? Did they recently close?
This Is awesome, I'm sure someone will post it on here very soon..I hope!
https://www.sendspace.com/file/mj1fot
Ty so much!!! I have a problem though.. when it says click filter I can't find filter.
Also it says parts for flavor instead of percents I'm having a hard time figuring it out..like the apricot recipe for 100ml they use 48ml of just apricot?? That's like 50% flavor r..
The parts are the percentages as best I can figure out. I took the Apricot recipe and tossed it into my recipe calculator using the parts as the percent for each flavor. I then converted it to flavor base and matched the ML to the ML in the spreadsheet. Here are the two tables for 1000 ml.
Apricot Horchata (from spreadsheet)
Flavor|ML :--|:-: Apricot|462 Sweetener|385 Horchata|77 Vanilla Bean|77
Here is the table converting the recipe to a flavor base using Hot Dog's calculator:
Flavor|ML :--|:-: Apricot|461.53 Sweetener|384.61 Horchata|76.923 Vanilla Bean|76.923
This also matches up with the "Hidden" column D showing 13 for this recipe. This is a total of 13% flavor in a finished juice.
Now there are three recipes that I really question with this method, and it doesn't make sense but here's my best guess, and this could be true for all "That's way to high!" recipes in this list. All this math is done using the default 1000ml flavor base.
- Twilight Cavendash: Total parts = 200
- Vice City Ice: Total Parts = 86
- Winter Cured Tobacco: Total Parts = 200
If you notice, none of the individual recipes have parts less than .5. I think that if a recipe would have had that, they multiplied the total parts by 10 for ease of mixing / measuring the base in a production environment.
Each of these recipes have an ingredient that at a lower total percentage would be .1 or .2 (or in one case .4). So multiply that by 10 and you get 1, 2, and 4. Much easier to measure. You just know then that it's 20% total flavor and not 200%, or 8.6% and not 86% (which makes much more sense with ingredients like koolada. I can see 1%, I can't imagine 10% koolada.
So, I think if you take a look at the recipe and see a flavor that just does not make sense at the percentage listed in column C, think about that flavor at 1/10 of what's listed there. Does it make sense then? To the amounts make more sense being measured in a production (and not home) environment at 10 times the amount, then being reduced when the base is added to a bottle?
This was all done using the SWAG scientific method, but it makes sense to me.... I'm open to any thoughts or criticisms.
I did some math on it last night after my post below and I came to this conclusion:
At 100ml, the ml to add column is the percentage
If you go to ELR and create a new recipe at 100ml and set it for 0 NIC and 100% PG you can just put in the flavors and percentages. Using the Horchata recipe, its 46.15%, 38.46%, 7.69%, 7.69%.
When you do this it matches the spreadsheet for ml to add exactly.
Now heres the Ah Hah moment. Leave those percentages at what they are above and change it to a 20 ml recipe in ELR and go back to the spreadsheet and set it for 20 ml and voila! it matches the ml to add perfectly.
Note: You have to set column E to a number with .00 decimal places for it to mach perfectly or else it rounds this up.
It works at any percentage as long as you don't try to mix below the total flavoring percentage - Horchata you can't make a base less than 15% or the math doesn't add up.
Now what is missing here is the recommended % to use in your final mix and I'm not sure if going by the parts will get us there like you said, some are at 31, 44, 62. I would ignore those columns all together and start at around 10% - 20% in the final mix.
EDIT: To make it really simple: In the Spreadsheet set it for 3 ml or 6 ml. 3 ml is 10% of 30ml 6 ml is 20% of 30ml
So you now have the exact ml to add for 30ml bottle with 10% or 20% total flavoring. Find a range between those two if its too weak or too strong.
Thoughts?
I think we're saying the same thing as far as creating the base goes. My numbers match yours, just increased by a factor of 10 because I used 1000ml and not 100ml. We're at exactly the same point.
I still believe that the total parts is either the total percent, or total percent *10. For example, the apricot recipe I can absolutely see that being a 13% total flavor. When I used the parts as a percentage for a total recipe (70/30) and then used the calculators automatic convert to base, my numbers matched exactly. In fact, if I take that base recipe and reduce it from 1000 ml to 100 ml my numbers match yours exactly. That tells me that that flavor base was intended to be used at 13%
Now coming down to the Chocolate Frost Bite recipe that using Total parts as a straight percentage would be 62%, that seems exceedingly high.
BUT, I've been doing a lot of work with double chocolate lately (working on a raspberry tootsie roll recipe), and I can tell you that 30% is way to high for that flavor. It would overwhelm everything.
But I can absolutely see using it at 3%, and I can absolutely see that combination of flavors used at a total 6.2%. Those are strong flavors and you don't need a lot. So I think they multiplied the base by 10. If I take a 100ml total base, it's easier for me to measure 8ml than it is .8 ml, and give me more room for error. I just know that when I mix a bottle, I use 6.2% total. Not 62% total.
Yeah that parts/total parts really messed with me. I figured we had enough info to make a solid base at any size we like, so I just scrapped the parts/total parts and went with a "to taste" route figuring most of our DIY recipes are around 10-20 % flavor and we could just dial it in for personal pref. Either way, good work man. Hopefully between the two of us we have settled any confusion on this.
Yeah, the parts must be percentages and the D column is the total flavoring%, but they must be using diluted sweetener. No one can seriously put 8-12% tpa sweetener in their juice, right?
I think you would be surprised. However I still thing the total flavoring is multiplied by an unknown number.
If I filter down to just sweetner, and just look at recipes where the part is 8+, I can start to see a picture form.
The recipe for winter cured tobacco is not 200% flavoring, but it makes sense to me at 20%
The recipe for Fog Milk - Strawberry does not make sense at 41%, but if I cut it in half (20.5%), it falls in line with the other fog milk recipes, and the sweetener matches at 8%. I can also see where it would be easier to measure and mix a double batch of Strawberry compared to a single batch of Blueberry fog milk.
I used to LOVE their Galetta Dulce(Alfajores) eliquid back when I started vaping!
One of the first good online vendors I bought from in my beginning - got duped by the cheapos - VapeJoose and the Suicide Bunny/Kings crown/cloud company/Wolfpack/WildVapes crap. I heard about the Juice Mafia here on reddit when I was a newbie, so skipped that one. Wildhttps://www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/3cb0wx/fuck_it_im_officially_calling_out_suicide/
Sharing is love...
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwgXIg7Z140KWExNN0prTG83Wlk/view?usp=sharing
Yo wtf....where is this filter button on here beside the hv there is no filter...how the hell am I supposed to even understand the recipe..
Parts per??? Ml to add??? Wtf is this shit
exactly... i dont get parts per thing too.. maybe someone will explain this :D
Maybe parts per Fuck are actually percentage?? But that wouldn't make sense though because most of the recipes are dominated by sweetener..I read 1 recipe and it had 14 parts per sweetener whatever the Fuck that means..idk man this is weird.did you find the filter button on step 2
Some of these look really good. Now if we can just get someone to decipher this cluster fuck into a readable list of recipes...
I have some money sitting in my PayPal I'd be willing to put in on that.
Edit: I get it. The recipes are for 100ml so the ml for that quantity is also the percentage. Disregard the parts part I guess.
Second edit: that would make 100ml of concentrate. So we still dont know how much concentrate to use. Dafuq.
About percentage; There is a hidden column (column E) called Total Parts SKU. It is used to calculate the ml to be added per ingredient.
they calc ml to add = parts / total ml * Total Parts SKU.
SKU usually stands for Stock Keeping Unit, but here it looks like the total parts used of flavoring. What I do not get is why it would be part of the formula! So I edited the formula...
if parts = parts of 100, then parts = percentage... which might make some sense. If this is true, Total Parts SKU seems to be total flavor percentage. The only issue is some of these flavors have a TON of flavor added. +30%
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17lFdzvWl5Yds-9TEfHedpT-5kY8N2Xx7r7SMGtzPbaA/edit?usp=sharing
If the parts mean percent than some of these recipes are over 50% total flavor.
yes that does seem insane... still trying to make sense of it. there might be another calc required... still working on it.
8% sweetener, is that what I'm reading? Based off the "updated" version? Good fuckin lord
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/17lFdzvWl5Yds-9TEfHedpT-5kY8N2Xx7r7SMGtzPbaA/edit?usp=drive_web
If this was intentional, it's pretty unscrupulous that they charged a 100$ for this. The percentages are missing. Anyway to those of you that really want to vape your favourite flavours, don't fret. Just play around with the flavoring percentages and you won't stray too far
It's excel so you can reformat the formula to actually show the percentages instead of milliliters. It would just take some math. It's fucking lazy for sure though. But so is the way they set the whole thing up though.
I plan on doing it this weekend if no one else does.
I just sent an email to Christian (the person that finally sent me the file) explaining that this book was garbage to anyone not working in their shop and that I would be filing for a refund with PayPal if there wasn't some updated info on how to read this junk file. I guess we will see how it goes? At this point they promised a "Recipe Book" and there aren't any recipes in this book as far as I can tell, they are just internal blends with numbers that make no sense to even the most experienced people on here. I will keep you updated on a response if I get one.
Yeah - got another email from HV mailing list - which included:
Please note we have been forced to shutdown early due to grossly unethical behavior by some in the vaping community.
He got a $100 a pop for this "recipe" book and now is whining. What do you think is gonna happen if you release something like this onto the internet? I am going to put it out there as a torrent, too.
Oh look, you can't even buy it anymore! How many lumps would you like with that, lets start with 100!
RESPONSE I GOT BACK:
Instead of going in it like this, why didn't you just ask for clarification. I'm here to help.
How would you get 40-50% of flavoring for final juice if this recipe book is only designed to make flavoring only? This recipe is to make the flavor portion of the juice only. Once you create a batch of flavoring, then YOU would decide how much flavor to add to your chosen nicotine base.
Step 1: Enter the amount of "FLAVORING" you would like to make in the blue area on top.
Step 2: On the Column that says "HV Flavor" click the filter button and click Select All to uncheck all the flavors. Then click the filter button again and check mark the flavor you want to make. For example for Berry Jello Shots, if you chose to make 100ml of that flavor, the end result would like this:
HV Flavor Flavor Name ml to add Supplier Berry Jello Shots Strawberry 34 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots Sweetener 23 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots Black Cherry 11 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots Brown Sugar 11 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots Vanilla Bourbon 11 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots French Vanilla Deluxe 5 Flavor Apprentice Berry Jello Shots Koolada 5 Flavor Apprentice
You would use the column "ML to add" to make 100ml of that flavoring.
Step 3: You would then take the flavoring you just created and add it to your chosen nicotine base. Generally 15% of flavoring to 85% of nicotine base is best. So if you wanted to make 30ml of final juice you would put 4.5ml of the flavor in 25.5ml of nicotine base.
I left out my email to him because it was pretty rude... after everyone on this thread has tried to figure out at least now there is a LITTLE bit of clarification from the actual vendor.
Thanks for the clarification! But I have to say...
> Generally 15% of flavoring to 85% of nicotine base is best
This is the stupidest thing ever. "Generally"? WTF makes 40 different juices and they all use the exact same amt of flavoring? All the best recipes I've ever tried use anywhere from 4% to 23%.
Gah, I'm giving up
Same... I am chalking it up to "this is why DIY is so popular now, and probably why they are gone". I was really rude in my initial email to him and probably shouldn't have been and I did apologize but after really scouring through it, the whole thing is pretty much garbage if you ask me.
They sent out an email explaining how to use the 'book' Give me your email and ill forward it or might post it later if i remember.
I will quote though "Generally 15% of flavouring to 85% nicotine base is best" So they're best at 15% apparently or 4.5ml flavouring to 25.5ml juice for 30ml @ 15%.
If it's not too much trouble can I ask you to send me that information. I am seriously considering this for my next DIY batch and am utterly confused about what % to use int he final mix.
Please note we have been forced to shutdown early due to grossly unethical behavior by some in the vaping community.
For those that need calrification on the recipe book;
The recipe book is only designed to make flavoring only.
This recipe is to make the flavor portion of the juice only. Once you create a batch of flavoring, then you would decide how much flavor to add to your chosen nicotine base.
Step 1: Enter the amount of Flavoring you would like to make in the blue area on top.
Step 2: On the Column that says "HV Flavor" click the filter button and click Select All to uncheck all the flavors. Then click the filter button again and check mark the flavor you want to make. For example if you chose to make 100ml of that flavor, the end result would like this:
HV Flavor Flavor Name ml to add Supplier Flavor Name Strawberry 34 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name Sweetener 23 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name Black Cherry 11 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name Brown Sugar 11 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name Vanilla Bourbon 11 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name French Vanilla Deluxe 5 Flavor Apprentice Flavor Name Koolada 5 Flavor Apprentice
You would use the column "ML to add" to make 100ml of that flavoring.
Step 3: You would then take the flavoring you just created and add it to your chosen nicotine base. Generally 15% of flavoring to 85% of nicotine base is best. So if you wanted to make 30ml of final juice you would put 4.5ml of the flavor in 25.5ml of nicotine base.
NOTE: The file is dependant on formulas that consider all comlumns. If you delete or change anything, you will not be making the correct recipe.
Vape On!
So after messing with the Miami Lemon Drop recipe in this "book", as u/KG3D pointed out, column D is hidden. Pulling that open shows the total parts as 5. So using e-liquid-recipes.com to make a flavor base of 100ml I inputted the ingredients and then used a 5% mix and came up to roughly the same amount of ML as is stated in the "book" (bittersweet chocolate was about 1ML higher on ELR. Don't know if anybody else had messed around with this.
I would like to thank Hurricane Vapors for releasing their recipe book. I haven't had Galleta Dulce in yearrrrrs! Mixed it up and I am in love again!!!
Do you happen to have the percentages that you used? I am looking at this spreadsheet and I am completely confused. I thought I had it figured out to make a base of 13ml to add to 87ml of my VG, but it ended up telling me to add a total of .52ml.
I just bought it. If you would like a copy... $5 PM me and I will send it as soon as I get it. I don't really care how many people come to me for it, the money isn't the issue. I just feel like if you want it you should have to do something for it. I have given away mods, and lots of juice to people on this and other subs so I definitely don't mind giving.
EDIT: Just an update for people. The book was bought last night, I emailed them today but have gotten no response and I have gotten nothing from them yet! I'm starting to wonder now if the cash grab was exactly that!! If I don't have the book by Sunday I will be filing with PayPal for a refund. 72 hours is long enough for electronic delivery of a product.
> the money isn't the issue.
Then why charge for it?
If you NEED it for free I will gladly give it to you. I am a giver by nature, to a fault most times. I usually get taken advantage of.. I don't think that most people will care about a nominal fee for getting the ball rolling. If I don't have anyone that wants it then I have a bunch of recipes that will get published for free anyway.
You've given mods and juice away to people in this sub? Why?
Not juice but flavor concentrates.. and mods in other subs. Yes. Why? Because someone was trying to get something done and didn't have the tools, I had some extra laying around so I took care of them.
Curiosity got to me so I had a look and I got to say, if I paid $100 for this I would be pissed. The formatting is horrible and it does not even state what the total flavor percentage is supposed to be. Ugh, "sweetener" in 34 of the recipes but does not mention if it is EM or Sucralose.
Update: Based on the high percentages I am going to guess EM.
TFA is listed on all the Sweetener lines. "TFA Sweetener" is Sucralose, iirc. They might have made a mistake, or perhaps they really did go that high.
They have a couple FA flavors in there but still have TFA in that column so who knows. The most Sucralose I can stand is 0.5% I could not imagine it at the levels they have listed so I am hoping it is EM.