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Any Electricians here? Making my own magnetic spinner need some help!
submitted almost 9 years ago by joeong

First of all, apologise if this isnt the right thread but im sure that it can help alot of DIY ejuicers!

Im DIY-ing a magnetic stirrer to blend my juices & let them chill whilst spinning.

Items i purchased are - a

  • 240 ->12V 3amp voltage regulator (DC)
  • 6 12v 0.3amp PC fans with max rpm of 2000
  • 6 potentiameters (500k ohm) <- 500k ohm doesnt work well what ohm should i use to better control the fan speed?
  • Plastic sheets (to hold everything together)

Now its question time! If i set up my circuit as this picture below http://www.resistorguide.com/pictures/LED-resistor-parallel-circuit.png

R = my potentiameters, Triangle = my pc fans.

Will my fan speeds be controlled individually? or did i screw it up... im not too sure and couldnt find the right answer googling.. Also what Ohm potentiameter should i use?

Help is much appreciated! Will post up pics of it when im done!

** Edit - It works!! Will upload pics & show u guys how i did it! My progress pics Diy ejuice stirrer http://iob.imgur.com/uYGg/BePHM8KGny

Edit #2 HALPPP just swapped all the 500k ohm pots to 5k pots. Lol they took turns burning out. need help choosing a potentiameter to control their speeds without it burning out

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by manysalmost 9 years ago

Oh god, what have imgur done now

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by Paleone123almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Each parallel circuit will behave independently of the others, so yes your fans will all operate independently, i.e. each potentiometer will control only one fan by that drawing.

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by Paleone123almost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Also I hope your power supply outputs 12v DC, not AC, or your fans wont be very happy.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

its DC! :) it didnt explode phew! Will upload pics tomorrow when i've got a full and working item!

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

it works! thank you for this! think i got the wrong potentiameters tho... i cant control the speed... it switches off too quickly :/

i got the 500kohms one. what can i change it to? i mainly want to control fan speed!

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by BeepBepsalmost 9 years ago

iirc 10k ohm pots will give you a better control. You're not going to need a ton of resistance. I built one but never used it, the fan motor burned up before I could put it to use. Computer fans aren't designed to spin the extra mass added by magnets.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

Thanks for the tip! Will look out for light but string magnets & try to save on weight as much as I can. Will look out for 10k ohm pots! thank you so much for the help

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

lol the shop nearby didnt have 10k pots.. so i used 5k pots... they burnt out 1 by 1 so i guess 5k pots are a no go

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by llamaleasealmost 9 years ago

Also, since you're working on cheap components you're fine, but potentiometers aren't the same as a real pwm setup, so if you get good components, you should look into a microcontroller to run pwm. Also, chop (dremel?) The blades off the fans, a bit less work to spin up, and less resistance from the turbulence.

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by Jorbladesalmost 9 years ago

Came here to say this. Arduino + transistors will give much better speed control

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

thanks for the tips guys. im a total newbie in electronics (lol just lookat my "pcb" board it was done using bluetack on a blacked cardboard strip... Whats a pwm? yeah im thinking that the next step will be to remove the fans, but i have limited tools and would probably use a really sharp blade to do it or a vape wire (flat head cutter) kinda afraid i may fudge that part up lol

Also whats a arduino lol. ill google these 2 up thanks guys

Edit lol omg. okay i googled arduino. the picture made my brain explode. have no idea where i can find a Pulse Width modulation thingy too

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by Maugetarralmost 9 years ago

A pulse width modulation thingy is what the board does. Basically, it sends the full voltage, but it turns the voltage on and off really quickly, pulsing it. The longer delays in between the pulses, the slower the fan will turn. The cool thing about it is that you don't have to run your power for the fans through the speed control potentiometers so you don't burn them up. You attach a control pot in one of the pins and it will base the pulse duration on the voltage that the board reads (i.e. if the board registers 50% voltage of the max, you can set it to spend equal amounts of time on and off).

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

yeah im thinking that the next step will be to remove the fans, but i have limited tools and would probably use a really sharp blade to do it or a vape wire (flat head cutter) kinda afraid i may fudge that part up lol. i have no idea where i can find a Pulse Width modulation thingy too

Was thiking of looking for arts & crafts shops & getting some small hard pieces of plastic or ice cream sticks to glue onto the fan head & attach the magnets on after/if i cut off the fan blades!

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

tried cutting the blades off... failed miserably. those thinge are so darn hard/tough

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by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

Can we build something like this next?

https://youtu.be/DpeJ7UqqkGg?t=102

Group think. Let's do it! Would be nice to be able to do multiple bottles at different sizes too.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

haha that looks neat but it isnt spinning fast enough! a mag stirrer will make a whirlpool in your beaker & stuff it full of air bubbles

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by T_Macealmost 9 years agoresident tobacco specialist

I think slow and steady would do a great job actually. Also, I've seen some debate about how much air should be introduced into the liquid. Not sure really.

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by RufusMcCootalmost 9 years ago

Fun fact: /r/homebrewing talks about these a lot. I made mine from crap laying around.

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by lemonforestalmost 9 years agoProud Sidebar Reader!

Since you mentioned finding the right magnets in the imgur link, have you checked out k&j magnetics?

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

Will look out for good light magnets that's! :) may mount them on 1/2 a ice cream stick to save weight!

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by tanknyankinalmost 9 years agoOne of "The Damned"

older style hard drives have rare earth magnets in them, I believe they are the strongest magnets around. If you have you wallet close enough it will destroy all your credit cards.

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by dragonjimmalmost 9 years ago

this might help

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-Make-a-Cheap-Portable-Magnetic-Stirrer/

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

thanks!

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by joesphaaalmost 9 years ago

i love the development notes, I pictured a small house cat in a lab coat making this.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

meow?...

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by joesphaaalmost 9 years ago

something like that, lol

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by sodakdavealmost 9 years agoHas successfully memorized the sidebar

You want rare earth magnets. When I built mine I used a 20k ohm pot and it worked ok.

The biggest thing I had issues with was that the fan worked wonderfully with just the magnet, but did not have enough torque to spin in VG. I never did find a high enough torque motor for a decent price and ended up just buying a lab grade mixer.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

thanks for the tip! will try 20k pots next!

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by caffeinedalmost 9 years ago

After having spent around $350 on a heated Fisher stir plate, I now just give my bottles a shake or two and throw them in the back of my sock drawer for a month or so. I found the stir plate to do no better for the way I mix, and the heat to degrade and change the flavor. I suppose I could throw some glitter in an Erlenmeyer flask full of water on it for a geeky Christmas decoration or something, but to me it's a waste for e liquids.

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by joeongalmost 9 years ago

haha yeah time is still the best

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