il bare that in mind looool

Not sure why you put this here

you can try /u/schmobro's Bubba Gum

• 0.25% Cactus (INAWERA)

• 4% Fuji Apple (FA)

• 6% Grape Juice (TPA)

• 1.5 Pear (FA)

• Koolada 1 drop/15ml

• Menthol 2 drops/10ml

or /u/tranceinate's Thugger Juice

• 4% Grapes INW

• 2% Watermelon LA

• 1% Fuji Apple FA

• .5% Kaktus (Cactus) INW

• 1% Menthol Solution TFA, or 1% of a 10% menthol solution.

or Aqua Berry Blast by /u/trendkill84

• 9% Watermelon (TFA)

• 7% Blueberry (TFA)

• 4% Strawberry (TFA)

• 2% Menthol or Koolada

• 1 Drop per 3ml Tart & Sour

and this Watermelon Crack Clone by /u/Vurve

• 0.25% (CAP) Cool Mint

• 3% (FW) Hard Candy

• 4.5% (FW) Jungle Juice

• 1.25% (TPA) Marshmallow

• 9.5% (LA) Watermelon

• 1.5% (FW) Watermelon

of those recipes i've only tried Bubba Gum and it's fantastic. i made a 30ml in two days. seriously, i'm not even really a grape person and i love it. i plan on making a 120ml in the near future. the others i haven't yet mixed up but plan on it this weekend.

you can also take a browse through the recipes with [FW Jungle Juice] and [menthol] and see if anything jumps out at you.

 Koolada 1 drop/15ml
 Menthol 2 drops/10ml

If you are stateside....

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/56xk8p/logical_increments_of_diy_gear_beta/

This could help narrow down some gear based on your price range.

You can, sure, but the idea is to combine them using recipes. The purpose of the list is to give you an idea of what flavors are popular and easy to work with, so you have a better chance of success when first starting out. It's also much easier to find recipes using popular ingredients.

Yes and no /u/LerithXanatos. PG is a flavor carrier, You could vape 100% Vg it has a sweetness to it. Most flavors are pg based technically it would work but flavor wouldn't last as long. Correct me if I am wrong anyone.

User Alisa on elr has a highly rated custard stone recipe. It's actually a recipe for a base to use 2-10% in a mix for a "custard" type base.

Here's another explanation of a cream stone, which was called "creambone". Very interesting stuff to read there.

Try searching for custard Stone milk Stone or cheesecake Stone

My go to, and many others, is CAP Vanilla Custard - v1 if you don't care about diacetyl. From that you can make it whatever type of custard you want. v2 should work if you want to avoid diacetyl but expect longer steep times.

Any reason you would want to create your own rather than using one of the flavoring manufacturers selections? Pretty sure almost all of them have a custard.

Tea is a tough one. Flavor art has a black tea that a lot of people like but to me it's a little bitter, almost slightly over brewed kind of thing going on. Might be worth picking up to see how your palate handles it. Also flavor art has a stellar bergamot flavor to make that into an earl grey. As far as lemongrass, I know FLV has one, but I'm not sure if that's a dried lemongrass like the kind that's used in tea blends or more of a fresh, like what you would find in Thai cooking, maybe someone can chime in on that.

Not too familiar on green teas, however.

Hmmm it would have to be a fruit that plays well with dominant flavorings, custard profiles, and creams. Vanilla custard and NY Cheesecake are always very noticeable in a mix so whatever you add, you're gonna have to make sure it stands out. A combo of your strawberries would probably work, caramel will work, Fuji would be interesting, maybe banana...just give whatever you think sounds good a shot and see how it goes! Whatever percentage you normally use the above flavors at, you'll probably want to bump it up a tad to work it into my cannoli recipe.

If you want to PM me your address I will send you some better stuff that you can play with. No charge just stuff I don't plan on using. There will be plenty of flavors to test and mess around with but you aren't going to get rich off it either. Just get me your address and I will ship you a box. (Just helping out since you got screwed with the VW kit)

There are multiple reasons why we don't recommend VapeWild's kit. So there could be multiple reasons why your mixes aren't coming out correctly. Ditch the kit

Not familiar with VW, but maybe try lessening your percentage of flavoring down to the 3-5% range.

/u/Jorakae I Don't go over 3.5% with any of them. I make 30mil batches or higher with FA You can try 50/50 mix VG/PG because VG has an already sweet flavor. Also I have found 40watts or higher works well.

I just made this as an ADV(all day Vape)

Ingredients | Percentage | :--|:--:| FA Peach | 3.5 FA Apricot | 3.5 | FA Marshmallow | 1.5 |

What I have also learn what works for you may not work for me vise versa. Try making 10ml test batches.

Start 1%,2%,3% or 1,1.5,2,2.5 so on and so on. Take notes on what you experience on each Inhale/Exhale. Because we all have different sensitivity a lot comes by trial and error. You can also go to ELR and browse thru some recipes to see how flavors are being used.

I've heard White Peach can be harsh, but Vienna Cream and Forest Mix shouldn't be harsh at that %. Not sure on the Black Cherry. What VG % are you mixing at and what nic concentration/level/vendor? If you post the actual recipes, it might be easier to offer suggestions to fix harshness.

What is your base? PG? VG? mix of both?

Are you vaping with nicotine or without? Vienna and Forest should never really be harsh.

There's*

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/2iq3km/botboy141_guide_to_mixing_by_weight/

It works just fine for what we do here

Being that those are all fruit flavors you can probably vape them right away.

For nic, Carolina Xtracts is the best, but the most expensive. Nude Nicotine is high quality but slow to process/ship. For everything else there's Bull City Flavor, ECX, or GremlinDIY. I think ECX still sells nic, but quality is lower than others.

Liquid barn is in Cali. 2265 Ward Ave. Unit C Simi Valley, CA 93065 Also /u/Pizza_Rock on the right side of page is the Sidebar tons of links related to DIY

nicotine river is in califonia

There isn't a dedicated place for them, but they do get posted on here. They tend to be called "stones" Like Creamstone, Custardstone, Yoghurtstone etc - I have no idea what "stone" means and why it is equated to a flavour base, could someone enlighten me?

/u/enyawreklaw also posts his "stone" bases on DIYorDIE and You Tube

You are misinterpreting. The percentages represent how much of the overall liquid is each flavor. Most of the liquid is going to be your base (PG, VG, Nicotine base) so there's no reason why a total percentage is needed for a recipe.

Yup, that's correct. Where in the world do you live though?

Yes, that's how that works, though if you do this the actual nic level of your juice will be a little less than 3mg because you'll be adding flavors to 3mg base, further diluting the nic level, and your juice will be a little higher than 30 PG if your flavors are PG-based. If that's ok with you, this will work for you. I think you should be able to find PG and VG separately though. Where are you located?

Hopefully you looked up some verified recipes before you bought all of that stuff

Use one of the calculators at whatever percentage you need to for the recipe

use one of the online calculators /u/biscuit_bit put in example if you've got a 70/30 vg/pg and 3% nic enter those numbers in, since you already have a premix you won't be including them add other ingredients your using at whatever %, pick batch size 10mil,15mil,30,mil and so on. then add the nic/mg+pg/mg+vg/mg=your premix and the rest of flavoring remains same

Example if Calculator says .9/mg of nic 5.3/mg of pg and 18/mg vg VG add them up=24.2 that would be the amount of your premix you would add.

Since you got lures and mixing in ML just add the ML column of the calculator

/u/SUBZEROXXL on the right side of the site is a side bar,look for the word Nicotine and Bold Print there is a warning and reading rules before posting. it looks like this.

Before Posting Please Review - Posts not following Sub Rules WILL result in Bans

they run a tight ship around here!

If I need to reorder, it will def be from Carolina Xtracts. As with most things in life, you get what you pay for.

Nude Nicotine is the only other vendor that consistently seems to have a great product, but give them a couple of weeks from order to arrival.

Its ok subzero, these guys tend to be dicks anyways. I hope they didn't ban you

I got mine in roughly a week.

/u/Indelitaco, Most of the time we you get that free shipping or free samples.What they are doing is waiting to get a large enough shipment to send out, so they get price break on shipping and still make profit. It's kinda your not a priority compared to regular customers.

I'd recommend starting small with just the essentials and some flavors. Get a feel for it, learn the ropes. Then order more when you have a better idea what works for you.

Whether to wait for a sale or not depends on why you're looking to get into DIY. If money is a big factor, then wait. If you're eager to get your feet wet, go for it.

Either way, start small, work your way up. A big discount on stuff you won't enjoy is much worse than no discount on things you'll love. And the only way to find out is to try for yourself.

Check out the sidebar ------------> first though, there's some useful reading there to get you started, what to buy, etc.

how much are you trying to spend for your first order?

this could be of help https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/56xk8p/logical_increments_of_diy_gear_beta/

you can also buy /u/enyawreklaw 's recipe concentrates from EcigExpress.com all you have to do is add (i think) 10% to your bottle/nic and youre good to go.

I vaped inw creme brulee at 3% for months.

after that my easiest recipe would be

• 4% FA strawberry
• 2% FA Kiwi

you can also buy /u/enyawreklaw 's recipe concentrates from EcigExpress.com all you have to do is add (i think) 10% to your bottle/nic and youre good to go.

I can't think of any reason why a mix would smell bad, unless those people were using really shitty nicotine.

It depends which flavor, I personally don't mix with anything that stinks at high concentration but I read abdada explain something about it once, the aroma volatiles of vomit is made from the same molecules as the yogurt aroma volatiles, something something acid butyric IIRC.

I love smelling all my flavors. Everytime I crack em open I usually waste a good amount of time resmelling ones I forget the smell of, just so I stay on top of my arsenal.

As in makes the room/mixing area smell?

I keep all my stuff in a closet. Opening the closet I get a strong whiff of my concentrates. It's slightly weird when you have a bunch of different stuff in there like random fruits and custards and tobaccos but it's very far from being unpleasant.

Here is a link to DIYorDie's webpage, where the schedule for all podcasts and a link to Mixlr are available - http://diyordievaping.com/inthemixpodcast/.

It says BB starts at 9 PM, Eastern Standard Time, but unless things are changing as of this week it normally starts between 9:15 (early/on time) or 9:40 (late I suppose but who cares, they do it for free and out of love). Feel free to ask any questions in the Mixlr chat, or PM me and I will send a Discord link to you. Then just ask your questions in the BB tab when its live and you should get some answers.

That podcast airs Mondays at 9 pm

I believe there wasn't a show last week.

Hey I can't really help you with your problem but I'm curious what you think of FW Iced Tea?

24hrs later flavors starting to develop Peach coming thru on a more balanced note. I want to go out on a limb and say. The initial shake and vape was much stronger and I'm gonna say at this point, 24hrs later I am way more impressed. So much I would say this is a steeped vape and I wouldn't vape this until the 24hr + mark knowing what I know now.

I actually got referred here by a mod.

Got their rainbow candy flavor (skittles) and grape punch..

The skittles seems kinda bitter and the grape is kinda soapy.

Both in a 70/30 VG/PG mix...

Skip 'em. I tried about 10, and none of those were even close to what they were supposed to be, or even any good. The only one I have read is a solid hit is Milky Undertones (I think that's right).

This is a good concentrate to work with. A lot of people like it standalone, but I generally end up using it as a base. /u/skiddlzninja also has a nice Blue Raspberry write up.

The flavor manufacturer should have recommendations for testing percentages. You could also consult ELR and ATF for this information. It's really going to depend on the brand.

You should keep them out of direct sunlight especially and extreme heat is probably not good for them but room temperature is fine. Don't freeze them. An unplugged fridge wouldn't be a bad place to keep them.

Whenever I used to add FA Marshmallow to a mix, I always felt like the vapor was a bit more dense

You won't get bigger clouds than pure VG. If you're talking about taste, that's a different matter entirely.

I did a 30/70 mix of CAP Marshmallow 10% and holy damn, the clouds chuckin on that mix!

Harsh as hell since that's such a high percentage, but....damn dose clouds yo.

Yes, Flavorart Vape Wizard MTS is made specifically for that. you can also try adding a touch of coconut to mixes. due to its chemical compounds, it supposedly churns out more thick clouds.

If you add anything to VG, it is no longer only VG. So, If you were to just have VG and flavorings, you'd need to add 30% flavoring to VG to make it 70VG/30PG.

A good starting point is to look up the average percentage each flavor is used in other people's recipes, at for example e-liquid-recipes.com. It's not the whole story, but it will give you an idea of how to use your flavors.

All flavors are of varying strength, so you really can't just pick a number and run with it.

Start with the two most important flavors of the mix. Take the flavor bottles hold them both to your nose equally. Like maybe half a centimeter from each nostril. This is about 8-10%. A FA flavor should be way too strong at this point. Pull them away until their about the right strength, and have them be different distances from your nose so that one is more powerful and in effect is the more powerful note.

This gets you a rough estimate of the ratio of those two flavors. And it should also give you an idea of the percent to use. It doesn't work at all for texture effects since you can't smell a feeling. So creams tend to smell either hollow or alcohol-y.

After getting a rough idea with these first two flavors, get a third flavor and get the ratio relative to the other two. Do it one at a time. Example:

• A & B
• A & C
• B & A

There's a lot of back and forth. If it's just not working then maybe one of the flavors just don't fit in the mix and should be subbed out for another. Like I had tfa peanutbutter and I needed a cream. I thought LA Cream Cheese Icing SOUNDED perfect, but when I smelled them together the smells of them totally cancelled each other out and I had to take a breath away from the flavors everytime I went back and forth to reset my nose.

That's a good sign two flavors don't work, if your nose needs reset when they come together.

Mix up a simple mix of just two maybe three flavors. Immediately test it, you won't get the full final flavor or texture yet. You just want an idea of how it's coming together.

Now that you can vape it. Vape on it, take more flavors that you think can be added, IF IT NEEDS IT. And make those adjustments.

Vape on it for a few days, make SMALL adjustments. Rinse repeat.

This is my current workflow I'm using for a Cheesecake that is turning out fucking perfect. A pumpkin pie that's still a bit rough and a peanut butter cupcake.

NOTE, my ways are usually considered odd round these parts.

Try lowering the % used, or add some EM or TFA Cotton Candy (~1%), or try mixing them with a thick cream like marshmallow or TFA Sweet Cream around 1-2%. Any of those should take the harshness away quite a bit.

I find different Watt level's help or hurt a flavor. Some time's you just can't do the long drag for that cloud chase no matter what you try. Hope this helps. I found out for me nic levels from 8-12% bump flavor percent's by .5 percent and 12% or higher 1 percent, helps with the harsh throat hits. /u/Gaihbre

I would go with TFA Marshmallow at 2% to smoothen things out. Otherwise, do a max VG 80/20 mix to ease throat hit.

Water will if anything make it more harsh, I'd look to the flavoring. Try steeping your juice, reducing the amount of flavor or avoiding certain flavors.

Some flavorings are added specifically to give that sweet touch, such as meringue, marshmallow, caramel, etc. You could skip those. Aim for darker flavors, such as chocolates, nuts, some vanillas, spices, cheesecakes, etc.

FA Torrone makes a great standalone IMO and it isn't overly sweet. TFA Kentucky Bourbon isn't overly sweet, but it could use something like FA Oakwood or AP to accent it without being too sweet. INW Biscuit, FLV Yakima Hops, and TFA Peanut Butter are a few others that come to mind. Maybe try searching around for "savory" flavors, and here's a link to the Flavor Reviews wiki where you can comb through a list of flavorings that might spark your interest as well.

Sure. Unless the nicotine base will constitute a large portion of the juice, there's no need for extra steeping.

That clone site has a lot of shitty clone recipes (and a bunch of adware). As in 90% of those recipes don't really taste much like the original.

Your best bet might be to buy some flavorings that somewhat match the flavor profile/description of what the juice is supposed to taste like, and just focus on making something similar and appealing to you. You can spend a lot of money and time on a clone and never really nail it. Trying to clone a juice that you think contains 16 different ingredients is going to be impossible. It's a lot easier to just make something a bit more simple and enjoyable even if it isn't exact.

Chubby Gorilla is what they're called, several places sell them. Google

To reply to someone, click on " reply" that is underneath their reply to you.

I'm not sure about narwhal, but you should be able to use your native browser and choose desktop view. The sidebar here is def worth a look, answers many questions.

Try it at 7.5% standalone. I don't know of any good published recipes using it yet (it's a new flavor), but if you post it along with your other flavors here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/59u0yl/weekly_suggest_a_recipe_for_my_flavors_thread/

We can certainly come up with some ideas for you.

/u/Sandcastles, /u/longglitchh, and/or /u/BassX97 might be of more help with this one.

I haven't tried TFA yet, but if it lets you down then Real Flavors Mixed Berries is an excellent standalone @12-15%. All fruit, no creams. It is VG-based, thats why so high %. And minimum 3 week steep.

A local shop here sells a 12ml bottle, which I just use all at one time to make 100ml batch and put away for a month. It's that good.

Correct, it's what the nicotine is suspended in. If you decide to get 100 VG nic, make sure you shake the hell out of it. It is susceptible to hot spots and is slightly more of a pain to work with than something like 50/50

Mac OS? Might be stuck with web based, but particularly All The Flavors seems to do all the important stuff.

This all I got. That guy is still around if you have any questions then pm him.

What mg per ml is your premix? Is it already at the strength that you want in the end? If it's 3 or 6, just put zero for your nicotine start and target. The dilution that will happen when you add flavoring is negligible anyway.

If your are using anything higher, DON'T DO IT LIKE THIS. Put that strength instead.

Your friend's advice is ok, especially if you want to start slow. Once you are comfortable with mixing, you may/may not want to purchase nic/pg/vg seperately. It gives you the flexibility to make all ratios and nic levels.

Welcome!

What do you put where?

Best way is to check how other people use them:

CAP Sweet Tea on ELR vs TFA Sweet Tea on ELR

and

CAP Sweet Tea on ATF vs TFA Sweet Tea on ATF

Which also gives you a bunch of recipes to explore.

If you got peach you can add 3.5% Tea 2% Peach. I also add 1% marshmallow and .5% of EM to my tea mixes to smooth things out and add a little more sweet bite to it. I don't recommend more then 3.5% of FA peach if that a peach you may have.

/u/deskpoprisk on right side of webpage is a sidebar Flavor review, you can check the notes there and see if both are listed and come up with a reasonable substitution also search bar for those flavors. It may or may not help, good luck

From what I hear, WL nic can be quite harsh. Try Googling "wizard labs harsh" and the number of complaints is concerning. That doesn't mean you can't vape it, but you get what you pay for.

There should be no discernible difference between VG from different sources, as long as it's USP grade (99.7%).

well as long as you got mod's stockpiled, you tube, and DIY sites it will remain strong. They can't ban VG/PG since it used in alot of cosmetics, lip balms same thing goes for flavors all food grade.

FDA can't ban welding wire, basically only thing the FDA is doing is hurting small business and convenience to get Vape accessories and premium commercial E-juices.

That is how i see it

Bumping up the flavor a little more (by 25%) and using 50/50 PG/VG ought to do it, though it still won't be quite the same. You might also try looking at some of the older recipes, like these recipe threads going back to 2013: https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/wiki/index/monthlyrecipes

This is the usual recommendation

If you list out your flavors here:

https://www.reddit.com/r/DIY_eJuice/comments/5b35ce/weekly_suggest_a_recipe_for_my_flavors_thread/

People will suggest recipes made from the flavors you have.

That's the one. Whatcha workin' on Dookie?

Much of that is just the process of testing. Mix up some juice, taste it after one day, a week, two weeks, and see how it changes and whether it improves. Just keep testing.

That said, there are some concentrates that are notorious for needing a longer steep.

You can use this as a general guideline:

Fruit: 1-2 days

Cream: 5-7 days

Dessert/Bakery: 10-14 days

100% is your finished juice, consisting of, for example, 70% VG, 20% PG and 10% flavoring. The 10% flavoring might consist of 6% of one flavor and 4% of another.

From there it's just math.

3% of 60 ml is 60 x 0.03 = 1.8 ml

Most people use e-juice calculators for this though, it's in the sidebar. Recipe sites have this feature too.

That's really up to UPS to scan and update

He has posted that recipe here! Search for Awesome Apple Pie. /u/botboy141 is the creator. Almost all of his recipes have been posted here in the past, just never all at once.

Hi there =). As coop said, the recipe is floating around with a few different variations. Sorry for shutting down GGG on ya, no more time for the fun =).

CAP Apple Pie V2 perhaps