Guys, I am so super seriously right now. Literally every post about this says, "... you think it won't happen to you, but it will," and in some fashion or another we tell ourselves, "nah that won't happen to me." My SSD just crashed and all my recipes are gone. I have no physical notes.
Even if your physical copies are just printouts that you keep in a folder using Juice Calculator's print function, that's far better than losing everything.
Make those backups yo.
Don't store them on your computer, store them on Google Drive. Problem solved.
Solid advice. I've been using the juice calculator/ inventory program from the mixing by weight post in the sidebar (http://www.diyjuicecalculator.com). Loving how many functions it has, great program. However, because it is an offline application, you have to export your backups which is easy but worries me because of the situation you just described.
I'm curious if there is a good website with equivalent functionality as far as saving recipes, updating inventory etc.
I know of e-liquid-recipes.com, but ELR doesn't have a "make this batch" functionality or the ability to have your inventory/stash updated when you make a batch :(
Alltheflavors DOES have this functionality...if you pay :( if not, all you can do is add recipes and flavours
Are there any other options that are web based, free, and able to perform ? It would be awesome to have my recipes/inventory saved online so I know it's backed up. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about those two sites, but I couldn't find the ability to do that stuff when I checked.
Juice calculator has an auto back up function that you can use to save to a different location than your working db. you can set that to automatically back up to a dropbox/google drive folder that then gets automatically stored in the cloud.
or you could just make your main save location that dropbox folder.
A year of ATF is the price of 1 concentrate. I'd recommend you reconsider paying for what is an EXCELLENT program.
Not that I think it would happen but websites can disappear. You should have another copy somewhere else if you be upset if it was lost.
I have the save file for juice calculator save into a OneDrive folder on my PC. So every time I make a new recipe or modify one, as long as I hit save, it automatically backs it up to OneDrive.
Yep I literally juust set this up with google drive :D
When you (if you do) import recipes, do you do the plaintext? or one of the other options? just curious what the best way is
It's the main reason why I use THAT calculator: the portable version and all the data is residing in- and running from my dropbox.
I am by no means trying to gloat here, but I keep a hard copy written in notebooks and back up my standout recipes online via ATF or ELR. Worst case scenario, my house burns to the ground or ATF and ELR suffer technical difficulties, but I've got everything important saved digitally as well as a hard copy. If anything, the thought of losing a good recipe is all the more reason to share it.
Mmm, this sounds familiar
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I feel your pain /u/Auntjaemima. I know back up my PC every week as well as back up my documents to 2 other cloud back up services. Lost myself a shit load of recipes, notes, ideas, many of which were for clients, and many of which were future releases. Though, it was one of the best things to happen to me because I understood how fragile the electronic database is.
dropbox
yup pair your save folder with dropbox. You can even do this if the file is in program files (blocked by windows for some reason) by making a symbolic link in MS Dos.
I use Ejuice Me Up and do this, and my when ever I mix I am always connected to the internet. So fingers crossed as long as Dropbox does not go tits up I should be safe
I appreciate the support and trust in here, and I do put effort into safeguarding your data on All The Flavors - both in preventing others from seeing the stuff you want private, and in making sure you don't lose it.
That being said, you shouldn't trust me (or anyone) to keep your valuables safe. Always have a backup. To reinforce that point, and in support of this message thread, I'm happy to announce I've given All The Flavors a backup feature!
Go to this link (accessable from the web menu as "backup data") and you'll find a way to download your flavors and batches as json and csv.
Keep a local (or cloud) copy safe - no one will value your data as much as you do!
have you tried recovery software? my hdd died last month and I was able to recover everything....do a google search.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I dont think recovering data from solid state drives is as easy as disk drives. So OP is probably shit out of luck here.
It depends. Due to advanced wear leveling the data can be hard to piece back together, but with small files like recipes it should work better than a huge file due to them only taking one or two sectors (smallest unit of storage on the drive, usually 4kb) on the disk.
i know on flash drives, such as sd cards, things don't get deleted when you delete them until the device needs more space or the drive is formatted. All it actually does is set a bit that says "this file is deleted" while leaving the file intact.
SSDs, depending on the OS, probably behave the same way, but OP didn't say anything about what actually happened, just that "the drive crashed". I would bet they're still on there unless it was formatted already.
I only make physical copies, i find that the creative process is more fun that way... somehow :)
Google drive gives you 15gb of free cloud storage. you just tell it what folders on your computer to backup to the cloud and it automatically moves every single thing you do in that folder the second it changes to the cloud so the latest version of everything is always safe. 100gb $2 a month.
I'm always crazy paranoid about things like this. I always keep two copies of files on both harddrives, a copy on my phone, a screenshot of the copy on my phone (if it's something small like a single recipe), and one in the cloud. I'll usually keep a hard copy written down somewhere, too.
Remember, one backup is no backups, especially if it's on site. (USB stick in your burned down house is useless)
I'd suggest using Google docs, and Dropbox, and a usb stick copy.
It's not massively more difficult, close to 0 cost, and gives you decent redundant backups.
I uploaded all mine to ATF with my yearly subscription. It's flawless so far.