OK new mixers, this is your thread to ask any questions you want of the DIY eJuice community. All posts are allowed, but we still encourage you to use the sidebar and search features before asking any questions.
- Placing your first DIY order and want to make sure you have all you need?
- Not sure about how to mix your first bottle?
- Want to get started but aren't sure how?
- Any other questions? ... then this is the thread for you. FWIW, the answers to the first three questions will eventually be found in the wiki (still in development); link at the top of the page.
Ask away!
Does anyone knows a vendor in Turkey, or at least a store up for international shipping towards here?
I would try onestopdiyshop.com, I know they ship everything except nicotine internationally. Maybe shoot them an email.
I think your best bet is to find out your country's customs laws. As I searched for an answer online, most websites that shipped internationally simply stated that it's your own responsibility to find that stuff out in case the order gets confiscated or something. One company that I'm familiar with that I seen while searching was eliquidmart.com, although they don't have a wide range of flavor vendors (only Capella and Flavour Art) they do say they ship internationally. You could look into them. Although I agree to look into UK vendors to see if that would be easier.
Should i reagent test my new nic supply everytime i order? Just asking
Does anyone else randomly get a hint of plastic from JF Sweet Strawberry? It's not every drag. Only once in awhile I'll get this burnt plastic taste at the end of an exhale. I played around with how long I was pulling and how hot I let the vapor get, but it didn't seem to matter. The recipe I'm working on now only has 3% Sweet Strawberry amongst 13% total flavoring, and I still experience that plastic taste like every other drip for just one random draw.
I noticed that once when I made a strawberry and cream recipe with JF strawberry sweet. I have been using JF SS at under 3% since then and haven't had a problem. I thought it was another ingredient that gave me that tiny hint of plastic, but maybe it was because I wanted a shit ton of strawberry and went with 3.5%.
Interesting. I'll try pulling back on it a bit. 2-2.5%. It's really bizarre. I kept checking my atomizer to make sure bits of o-ring hadn't been torn off and made their way to the wick or coils. Then, suddenly, it would taste magnificent.
Hello, new here and to DIY,
I've got the following flavours and was wondering if anyone could shed some light in how long different kind of flavors need to steep. I've read that fruity flavors need little steeping and creamy ones need longer.
- TPA Cotton Candy
- TPA Key Lime
- TPA Orange Cream
- TPA Bavarian Cream
- TPA Raspberry Sweet
- TPA Rainbow Sherbet
- Revolute - Ethyl Maltol
But how long do fruity flavors need to steep compared to creamy ones? I'm sorry if this question is too vague, but maybe someone can push me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance.
Hi, welcome to the sub! Without getting into details, most mixes can be vaped right away. After a few days the brighter flavors start to come out more, as they blend with the base. After a week or two, the sharper notes will start to calm down and creams will start to come out more. They are not really fighting for space, it just takes varying amounts of time for flavors to develop. Some flavors can take up to three weeks to show their true nature, but beyond that, very little will happen with any mix.
So to answer your question, you can try most things you mix up right away. You'll have a better idea how balanced the mix is after a few days. And you'll experience the nuances and interactions between creams and desserts better after a week or two.
Thank you very much for your answer.
I've made a few batches, one with nearly all the above flavours (trying to clone Lost Fog - Neon Cream), one with only lime + raspberry and one with rainbow sherbet and cotton candy. I tried all of em after mixing and shaking, but they all had a really sharp throat hit which I really don't like. Can you tell me how I can reduce the throathit to an absolute minimum? Like for example the Neon Cream from the vendor has zero throathit, no matter how large the puff, which is exactly how I like it.
Sharp notes tend to fade after a week or two, but if you're impatient like me, just reduce the flavor (or dilute the mix). Lime is especially hard on the throat. Store bought juice has been sitting for weeks to months and allowed the flavors to develop fully.
I should note that TFA Cotton Candy is literally just Ethyl Maltol in PG, no point in adding both.
EDIT: Sharp throat hit can be caused by nicotine and PG though, are you sure it's not that kind of harshness?
Hey folks!
I've been mixing for a while now mostly other peoples recipes Mostly /u/vurve and /u/fizzmustard you guys are legends
and most things I want can be accessed via the search bar. Sorry for asking this but at my local B+M I tried this liquid and it's delicious I'm hoping people can give me a good starting point on ratios and which concentrates to use Not looking a clone just something based on the flavour profile
Coil Spill bakers daughter: A delicious sugar cookie with hints of white chocolate and soft, melted marshmallows. http://www.stayclassyliquids.com/product-page/0acfdcbb-3878-270b-b0ed-8f75c0d8b425 I've never used a sugar cookie or chocolate concentrate and my experience with marshmallow is only TPA Assuming since it mentions melted marshmallow it's not.
Could be TPA Toasted Marshmallow but might just be a regular marshmallow and they're just adding the word "melted" for marketing. It's probably just FW or CAP Sugar Cookie, FW or CAP or TPA Marshmallow OR FW or TPA Toasted Marshmallow, and TPA or FW White Chocolate.
Your best bet is probably to buy all nine of those concentrates and test them individually to see if you can pick out which ones taste like what's in that juice. It's possible they are using FA or some other brand, but FW, TPA, and CAP are more likely and therefore the best place to start. Then once you have it narrowed down to which ones are in there, start mixing them together and tinkering with the ratios. If you test these individually at various concentrations first instead of just one, you'll have better luck guessing which percents to use later.
Hey dude,
Thanks for the awesome advice, I have contemplated doing this
Probably not viable for me to buy 9 bottles of concentrate atm. I think I can rule out tpa marshmallow at least
Not too concerned about making a clone,
just something tasty that matches the flavour profile If I can even find a recipe for a nice white chocolate chip cookie and add some marshmallow to that
Once again thanks for taking the time to reply :)
Greetings! I'm brand new to mixing, but I've been reading tons (mostly here) and listening to the podcast (shoutout for the podcast - it rocks). My first order is on the way, and I'm wanting to try my hand at a peach cobbler (one of my all time favourite desserts). What I'm hoping is that if anyone can let me know where I may be heading in the wrong direction badly before I even start to save me some time and frustration. I'm thinking:
- CAP Juicy Peach 5%
- CAP Blackberry 1%
- TFA Apricot 0.5 %
- TFA Pie Crust 2%
- TFA Vanilla Cupcake 1%
- FA Meringue 0.5%
- TFA Graham Cracker (clear) 2%
- FA Cookie 0.5%
- TFA Kentucky Bourbon 0.5%
- FA Liquid Amber 0.5%
Fruit Concoction I've added the blackberries and the apricot just to give it depth of character and a more interesting profile than simply peach. My own tastes.
Crust I've pretty much followed suggestions from the podcast for a poptart crust, adjusting slightly (I think) to make it more of a crumbly crust - though I"m not sure I've succeeded on the crumbly. If you got suggestions for making it seem more of a crumble top, I'd appreciate that.
Vanilla Cupcake and Meringue There to add sweetness without using sweetener.
Kentucky Bourbon Is there to add warmth to the recipe. At this low dose, it shouldn't taste like alcohol, but rather just give that special oomph to it that it could use.
Liquid Amber I've added this to make the fruits meld together in a pie filling kind of way.
What I'm especially wondering is whether there is anything that can be substituted here that would give me that rolled oats flavour that you get from the crust of a good cobbler. Cobbler, as I know it, has a rolled oats topping, not a graham wafer topping. What I've got going on is a graham wafer topping. I'm shooting to find something that will give me rolled oats (toasted, if possible) for the topping.
Any suggestions? Your kind help would be very much appreciated. And thanks for all the good work you all put in. I really does help the rest of us.
Caveat: If I've posted this in the wrong place, please correct me and tell me where to post. Yes, I've read the sidebar! Best, Magnus
Sounds very ambitious if you've never mixed your own juice before. Creating a complex recipe isn't the best place to start. I'd try simpler mixes while learning the ropes, get the hang of the process, familiarize myself with the flavors and how they interact, etc, and slowly build that recipe up one or two ingredients at a time. What you listed could turn out pretty good, but more than likely it will taste nothing like you imagined and you'll have no idea why.
But if I was to say anything about the recipe, I'd say it has potential. Blackberry tends to be overpowering, might want to tone that down. If you want a realistic peach, you'll probably need more than one peach concentrate to refine the taste. I'd skip the 0.5% ingredients in a first batch, in fact I would start with finding a balance between peach, pie crust and graham cracker, skip vanilla cupcake initially and then see what the blackberry does to the mix, before considering adding more flavoings.
Hey Leapinglabrats, thanks so much for the reply. I was trying to combine what I had learned on the podcast with things I had learned on the reddit (truth be told, I've learned nothing about the blackberry, so I had no idea how strong it was - good advice, thanks). On the podcast they gave us a recipe for a poptart/pie crust and I took that directly and added the 3 fruits to it, thinking I'd get a simple fruit/pie kind of deal. The vanilla cupcake was part of their pie crust recipe (as far as my memory serves me) which is why it's there. I'll take it out and see what happens. The meringue, too, came from their poptart/pie crust recipe. I don't mind leaving it out. Saves me confusion in the long run, I'm sure. On the podcast, they said that the FA Cookie would make the pie crust more crumbly, which is what I'm going for in a peach cobbler, I think. I can easily leave it out, too. And the liquid amber and the Kentucky Bourbon can be added at the end of the process, for sure, when everything else has gelled and I can see what's happening.
I tried to have the right idea, by going with a tried and true pie crust recipe and adding fruit to it. The other elements were all learned from the podcast (like how the Kentucky Bourbon gives a sense of warmth and the Liquid Amber makes the fruit "gel" together and form a kind of syrupy pie filling taste and feel. Thanks so much for your advice. I'm looking forward to making this work, and you've certainly helped me figure out how to do that.
One other thing... do you know of any way of getting that rolled oats flavour you have in a crumble? I can't find anything in the flavours at all that would suggest oats or oatmeal or anything like that. If you had any advice for this, I'd sure appreciate it!
And one last thing... Do you have a suggestion for another peach to try alongside Juicy Peach? I've been seeing a White Peach (don't know who makes it just now) in a lot of recipes around here, but I'm not sure if that's the best one to try. I don't want to get into adding 3 peaches because I think that'll only confuse me more than I am already. hahaha. Me? I live in a constant state of confusion, actually.
Best, Magnus
I figured the core of the recipe came from somewhere, that part looks pretty solid. Adding fruits however may throw everything off, but there's only one way to find out. In light of this, you could mix the core up and vape it so you know what that tastes like, then add one fruit at a time to see what it does, or work on a fruit profile on the side that you then try to combine. Peach and apricot will match well, it's just a matter of ratio. I'd skip the blackberry initially.
So that's two ways of going about it, either dissect the recipe and start with the essentials, or go with the core and try to work one flavor in at a time. You do have the right idea in picking something that is tried and true as a foundation, try to limit how much you deviate from it though as complex recipes have a fine balance that is easily thrown off. It's easy to get discouraged when you don't get the results you expect. Simple recipes are more forgiving when it comes to changing and adding things.
Not sure about the oat, there is TFA Oatmeal Cookie, but it is pretty similar to pie crust if I recall, perhaps a bit lighter, sweeter and creamier. I haven't used it enough to give any advice on the matter :)
When I make a large batch without nic and go to add it after will that affect the flavor depending on the amount of nic? I plan on mixing up about 300ml plus and breaking down into 30ml with different nic lvl.
Depends. If you're using 100 mg/ml to get 3 mg/ml, you dilute the flavor by 5%, no one will ever notice that.
If you're using 36 mg/ml to get 12 mg/ml, you dilute the flavor by 50%, which is significant.
I should have mentioned I'm using 100mg/ml to get 3 and 6 mostly. I might do some 12 and one or two 18. Hell I might try 9
When I mix something like that, I adjust my PG/VG ratio in the mix so it comes out to whatever the preferred ratio is after I add my nic later. (Or at least as close as possible if I'm making different strengths)
Generally you won't notice much (if any) difference when using 100mg/mL nic, but jumping from 3 or 6 up to 18 is pretty significant and may require separate batches in order to keep from diluting the flavor. If you're making a lot of the same thing, sometimes its easier to make your recipe into a concentrate, then add your concentrate mix accordingly when dealing with many different nic strengths.
Oops, originally posted in last week's thread. So I'm new obviously :) Moved it here
New mixer here. Due to the constant need to find a new vendor for the Ry4 that I like, I decided to start mixing my own so as to avoid the recurrence of the situation. First time, the vendor changed their recipe, and the next vendor suddenly had new regulations to deal with and switched to only selling brand name liquids instead of their house brand. Anyways, the question that I haven't seen answered in my searching and reading here is: What atomizers are you guys using to taste test? Are you using your all-day atomizers and just cleaning before and after? Are you dripping? My daily equipment is a simple Protank2 and I don't want to have to clean it and put in a new head just to find out my mix wasn't what I expected. Thanks!
Last week's thread is still good. People will still be checking it for a few days. Most of us use an RDA and rewick if we need to test something out. If you only have a tank with prebuilt coils you really should only change them if you are switching different flavor profiles (fruit->bakery, or anything->menthol, for example). If you don't want to do that, just know that you may have lingering flavor from the previous juice for a few tankfuls. Depending on your setup, an RDA is the best option for flavor, though.
Most of us are dripping for taste testing. You can read through some of the flavor reviews to see what types of RDAs people are using to test. You can also use whatever you prefer though. If you're going to be vaping it out of a Protank2, it would definitely be a good idea to use that as your tester too. It's just most people taste a lot more of the little nuances on an RDA.
Thanks folks. Looks like I'm getting deeper into equipment now. I'll start looking at different RDAs. I just don't want to end up looking like a goofball carrying an ornate maglight around. Switching from an Ego to a box was bad enough. I like to keep things simple.
Is a 5ml tester too small for single flavor tests?
I ran out of 10ml bottles and only have bottles that hold around 7 or 8ml.
10 ml bottles are preferred because it gets harder to measure accurately when making smaller amounts. Depending on the percentages it could be next to impossible
For most cases I would say yes if you're trying to make something with a low percentage you're going to have to make a dilution first so basically doubling the workload but if you were testing between 1 and 5% I don't see you having an issue with the measurements
I think for a lot of flavorings that would suffice.. You may end up making second batches of some to better feel them out. It might be pretty small for a lot of the more potent stuff like Flavorah. Also depends on how in depth you're doing your tests. Trying 3, 5, 7%? Probably cool. Trying 2.5, 2.7, 2.9%? Probably not.
I have a 1L bottle of PG that I bought about 18 months ago when I first tried DIY and didn't stick with it. Is there any chance the PG is still good? It was opened once or twice but the cap has been on it ever since
I buy my bases in one gallon increments mix at 70/30 and my PG lasts forever. I have never noticed a problem with it getting old IMHO is it is perfectly fine
Shelf life of PG is +24 months if stored out of direct sunlight, excessive heat and kept sealed. It should be clear and odorless. If it tastes alright, it's probably alright.
Hi there. Just about to make an order for even more flavorings. I've recently fell in love with VCT (vanilla custard tobacco) from ripe vapes and would like to try my hand in replicating it. Anyone tried it? There does seem to be a lack of tobacco recipes on here, what flavorings should I look out for?
I can vouch for Gentleman's Custard. Very nice after a month's steep. I like it with and without butterscotch.
I am from Pakistan and don't have access to much flavors. Getting different flavors is a bit hard for me so I am looking for the suggestions of some of the Single Flavors which can be Mixed and Vaped all day long, For Example I liked the TFA Banana Nut Bread as It can be mixed alone and is really great, Mostly I liked the Fruity and Dessert Flavors so what are some good suggestions for the Flavors or recipes which can be used with alone or may be two to three flavors. Also any good cheap vendor who can ship internationally will be a plus.
Mustard Milk for a good two flavour simple recipe. /u/ID10-Ts Simple Cookies and Cream is another.
Another option if you can get things shipped from the UK is to buy some of DIYorDIE's flavour concentrates. These are ready mixed recipes essentially. All the flavours premixed for you in to a single bottle. These might be a good option for you
It may just be my senses but does anyone else find that TPA Guava and Passionfruit smell like a stinking arm pit? My god its awful!!! I bought them both as replacements for the CAP equivalent which i found were flavourless....at least CAP's smelt nice though.
Hi there, I originally fell down this rabbit hole by looking for flavorless nic base. I really just wanted to dilute some flavors, make my liquid last longer, etc.
So I found nude nicotine and was about to place an order for some flavorless liquid when I saw the concentrated flavorings.
I like "light" flavors, nothing too heavy. So if I buy a bunch of 6mg/ml unflavored base, can I just add a couple of flavoring drops to a 30ml bottle and create whatever flavor I want? Will a couple drops be too strong for a batch that size?
Is it really that easy or am I missing something?
thank you in advance.
EDIT: I know this sounds like I haven't really read any of the sidebar stuff, but I have and I do understand that it's not "that simple" but I'm just wondering for practical purposes if this would work to create just some very basic flavors. I really don't want to get super into this and deal with concentrated nic and all of that. Plus I really don't need another hobby.
Yep, you can surely do that. Just make sure you shake everything before mixing and if it has been sitting for extended period of time.
I'd recommend a scale, but if it's not in your budget right now, some pipettes or plastic syringes will help you do the job. Amazon has dirt cheap prices for stuff like that.
Also, your cost per mL will decrease significantly if you buy your VG/PG/nic separately, but a premixed base is a decent way to get your feet wet.
Maybe this doesn't quite fit here, but I don't know where else to put it. I like to buy store bought juice and dilute it with PG sometimes, when I am poor and need a bit to get by. Now is one of those times. Now, I have 30mL of 12mg nic juice that I would like to dilute down to 2mg, but I have a limited number of different implements for measuring, and it's been over 20 years since I took math and I don't trust myself to get it right.
Here's my plan: Take the 30mL bottle of 12mg nic, empty into an empty 120mL bottle. Add 90mL PG to fill the bottle which should now be 120mL of 3mg nic. Here's where the trouble starts. The best thing to do would be to pour that 120 into a larger bottle, add more PG till I hit the ratio I want, then done, but I don't have a larger bottle...in fact the single 120 is the largest I have (and I only have one). What I was thinking was, I could take the 120mL bottle of 3mg nic, and remove XmL from the bottle, where X is the amount of PG I would need to add to the bottle to bring it back to 120mL but at 2mg. This looks like the kind of problem I'd have had to have solved in high school, but I can't remember how to approach it now. Can anyone help me solve for X? Secondary, this will leave me with XmL of 3mg nic juice, how much PG will I have to add to it to make it 2mg (should be 2X, right?). Thanks in advance for helping an old fogey remember his numbers!
When doing this, you are completely diluting the flavor. In most commercial juice, the flavor% is around 20%. If your taking a 30ml bottle, with around 20% flavoring, and adding in 90ml of pg to it, your mixture would only be around 5% flavoring. By diluting it this much your juice will have little to no flavor. Also, let's say your commercial juice is a 70vg/30pg mix. By adding 90ml of pg, your total juice ratio will be around almost all PG and very little VG. VG is what gives you the cloud, PG gives you throat hit. Needless to say, your concoction will be extremely harsh, weak flavor, and unpleasant to vape.
If you still want to continue knowing the above, this is what you will need to do.
Add your 90ml of PG and 30ml 12nic juice into your 120ml. Making it 3mg nic. Now you want to put it into, let's say a 30ml, and dilute down to 2mg. You would fill the bottle 2/3 of the way full, then fill the remaining 1/3 of pg.
Thanks, bud, but I've been vaping this way for months, and I find it neither harsh nor weak nor unpleasant. I vape for throat hit, so I prefer a lot of PG.
And if I wanted to just guess, I'd have done so. I was looking for math help, not judgements about my vaping preferences or facile answers suggesting that I guess.
FA Hazel (grove)
This tastes exactly like cat piss.
Am I missing something or is this the intended use of this flavor?
Ive tried it at 0.2 percent and it just made everything in my mix taste bad, I am putting it right on top of the list next to bad nicotine.
Cat's piss is a slightly sweeter vape, but that may have just been because I used max VG.
FA Hazelnut is very bitter for the first couple of weeks, then it mellows out and becomes more palatable. Actually vaping a recipe with it in now, 3weeks steep and it is a decent hazelnut taste (used at 0.8%).
How long have you steeped it for?
How long did it steep? Maybe give it a couple weeks in the cupboard. Also, why are you tasting cat piss?
I will give it another 2 weeks. It's been 2 weeks now. Also you have to try all things once. I just needed to confirm that it tastes like cat piss, it does. I will give it a few weeks to muster. But if anyone is looking for an amazing cat piss and creams recipe, I've got it.
Over this last weekend I mixed my first few bottles of ejuice. I found some recipes off of e-recipes and mixed by weight into a couple 15 and 30ml bottles. I was pretty thorough on my mixing but each bottle is short on volume by a good 3-7mls. I know it's common for there to be a little bit of headroom for the droppers but this is a bit more than that. I haven't tried them yet because I'm letting them steep, but is it common or anything obvious I may have overlooked? I adapted the recipes to match my nic strength, pg/vg ratio, and bottle size. I'm a little stumped as I've looked a fair bit around and can't find too much info on this being an issue for others.
Some bottles are bigger than others marked the same size. I don't know if it happens during production or when they are cooling in the kiln (for glass). I would guess when they are cooling they can deform size a bit. I assume they are injection molded but if they aren't that leaves even more room for error. Completely normal for some to be larger than others.
Even my 30ml ldpe bottles are more like 40. However I don't know about your process. If you are sure of your math and that you put everything in the bottle, then you got it.
The only things I could see is maybe you are weighing VG at 1g per ml when it weighs 1.26g per ml. Maybe you didnt add nicotine, or forgot to top it off with PG.
If you were making samples without nicotine it is also possible that you forgot to add PG or VG in its place. You're probably good to go though. If you totally are not sure you can mark the level of liquid on the bottle and weigh 30 grams of water out inside that bottle and then compare it to the line you marked.
So I've never made my own ejuice but since I got the Limitless rdta on my ipv5 I've noticed a 120 ml bottle, which normally lasted me 3 weeks, only lasted a week. I guess it's due to the cotton constantly being wet that does this. Anyway, what with all our bills and whatnot I can't keep going out and buying 120s every week so I figured I'd make my own. I looked around on wizard labs and found some great prices for VG, but the question now remains, what else do I need to have? Obviously beakers and syringes, and bottles to put the juice in. But more a max vg juice, should I get the nic suspended in pg to give it that little bit of pg needed? Or could I go straight vg? Also, I'm not sure which flavours to get... Therr are so many different types of the same flavour that I dunno which company makes the best ones. My wife likes fruity flavours with a little bit of sweetness and a banana kick, like real banana, not candy banana. I like the more creamy fruit flavours, like frutty pebbles with cream, peaches and cream, or a solid peach mango mix with a slight creamy coconut kick. Where do y'all get your flavours from and what do you recommend?
You need to read all the links in the sidebar before getting into this. Read everything pertaining to flavors, nicotine, mixing by weight, vendors, first orders, watch some YouTube videos by New Amsterdam Vape and DIYorDIE, soak up all that information, read all the links AGAIN, and then decide if this is for you or not.
Your cotton should constantly be wet if you're vaping any kind of device. Forget mixing by volume and go for mixing by weight. Max VG is fine if that's what you like, although PG is the flavor carrier. VG nic is fine, but is more susceptible to hotspots. I'd recommend PG nic or 50PG/50VG.
Hola!
Im about to make my first order from ecigexpress, but im stuck at the nic. My target juice is 70VG/30PG, maybe 80/20 and the nic they sold comes in various presentations of 24mg strength: 70/30 - 50/50 - PG - VG... wich should I order to make my target 70/30, 3mg nic e-juice?
Someone said 50/50 nic is recomended. should i listen to him?
also, my target recipes are: Unicorns milk and Strawberry shortcake bar
Thanks...
Are you talking about buying a 24mg/mL nicotine base in either 70/30 or 50/50 that you plan on adding only flavors to get your final liquid? Or do you have nic, pg, vg, and flavorings separate?
I'm buying this (or planning to):
-Flavours -PG (separate) -VG (separte) -Nic: 24mg Unflavored Nicotine Base 70VG/30PG (separte)
Here are what your scenarios would look like with a 70/30 and 50/50 nic base at 24mg/mL to get a final mix of either 70/30 or 80/20. I personally go with a higher nicotine concentration (100mg/mL) so that I can save money since nicotine is the most expensive part about mixing eliquid.
Whats the reason for juice getting harsh after 10 days plus of steeping?
Trying out a new batch after a day or two feels really smooth, but after 10 days or more of steeping it starts to get a scratchy feel in the throat, before that its perfectly fine. Also, when I take a rest, like 15 min an then vape again the first vape is smooth, and its getting worse from there on.
All recipes at 3mg nicotine and 30/70 pg/vg
Nicotine, VG and PG from HiLiq
Recipes:
Mustard Milk (8% vanilla tfa 6%strawberry tfa)
Nana cream (banana cream 5% tfa, dragonfruit 3% tfa, strawberry 7% tfa)
Blueberry (8% hiliq)
All batches are like that, but I just started steepingrecently when I started odering tfa.
Kangertech Toptank @ 0.5 ohm, 26-29 watts
Edit: i shouldnt be able to be sensetive to either component right? Might my throat just be too dry? It improves a bit if I drink something creamy like milk.
Never used any premium juices as you cant get them in Japan with nicotine.
I just have a few questions:
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I have weened myself off of nicotine and will be making high VG juices when I start next month. I know PG is a flavor carrier, so I'll essentially just be adding VG to a flavor mix, right?
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Since my mixes will literally just be flavor + VG, I don't need to buy any PG at all do I?
Slightly confusing post, but if you don't mind the lack of throat hit and a reduction in flavor, all you need is VG. I just find that mixes with less than 20-25% PG, including the PG you get from flavor concentrates, get rather lackluster.
Essentially, you are correct, but for the reasons already stated you might run in to some issues mixing max VG depending on your setup. Just grab some PG with you first order, even just a small bottle. It's only a couple of bucks and you will use it at some point I am sure.
Ok I'm struggling to understand this.
Why are half the recipes on elr or most places have their percentages at like %15-%20. I vape my gear at 50/50 veg/pg are the people who have really high percentages of flavours vaping at really high wattage is that the deal? Because I made half these recipes the flavours would be sky high and probably tasteless :/
Edit~ I only use nautilus tank on a 1.8 coil at 4.4 watt
if the total amount of flavouring across multiple flavours is adding up to around 15 to 20%, then nothing wrong with that. You will see lower totals on here as the norm, but nothing inherently wrong with flavour totals of 15 to 20%. However, if the recipe calls for 15 to 20% of a single flavour... then move on to the next recipe and leave well alone as a general rule.
If you want to avoid the shit pit of recipes that is ELR altogether, then stick to recipes posted on here in the monthly thread or check out All The Flavors for a much better standard of recipe and mixer.
Hello new to DIY :)
Question I have is
I bought some 100mg/ml Nic - liquid barn And some VG - Amazon
Are they always so thick? I had a hard time drawing them up into a measuring needle.
The VG more so it's super thick and I've watched some videos where guys are using what looks like water PG/VG
Do I cut it with water? I've read a couple drops will help in like a 30ml bottle but I'm not sure
What ratio is the Nic? Yes, VG is very viscous.
I did 6 mg/30ml So I had 1.8 ml of 100 mg/ml nic
I think he was asking the vg pg ratio.
VG is very thick and if you want to struggle less using syringes then I would advise you to look up how to mix by weight using scales.
Diluting the VG would help but isn't ideal. You should use better equipment first before having to alter the vg. (Bigger syringe or scales)
Slightly warming your VG will make it easier to work with but you need to be careful because you don't want it too hot it will ruined the flavor molecules in the flavorings. And if you do not want to mix by weight you are going to need to get some graduated cylinders to measure with far easier than working with syringes.
Interesting I actually just order stuff to start mixing by weight pretty excited I also made myself a magnetic stirrer so pretty pumped for some more testing. My biggest issue right now is my nicotine is really harsh at 6mg. I'm wondering if it's just the brand or if I mixed wrong.
I'm going to assume you read the sidebar twice and you have watched a couple hundred videos on how to mix. It's probably the brand which brand did you go with? I personally like vapers Tek heard great things about Carolina and if you have a couple of months nude nicotine is definitely up there plus you can get the nicotine salts and their stuff to make it less harsh.
Will I have any problem with nic concentrate in a checked bag on an airplane? I am moving cross country and have about 200 mL of 50mg nic in unlabeled 60mL amber bottles (I like to dilute my 100mg down for storage). The box they are in says "POSION Nicotine DANGER" on it in Sharpie. I will be double bagging them with zip locks in case of leaking.
I'm looking to make my own spreadsheet for mixing but I'm having some problems with formulas for excel. Are there any sites or former posts with formulas in them? Mostly this is because I frickin love excel but also personal QC and tweaking recipes.
Ex of what I'm looking for: =sum(starting nic mg/desired bottle ml)*desired mg
Ex of what I'd do: So if I put my starting nic mg(100mg/ml) in b2 My desired bottle size(10ml) in b3 My desired nic mg (6mg) in b4 I'd enter the value in my cell =sum(b2/b3)*b4 to find how much nic to add. The answer would be .30 ml if I'm thinking right.
Does this make sense or has the crack kicked in? By weight would be nice but I can figure that later.
It would be
(Bottle size * desired Nic strength per ml) /nicotine solution strength = ml of nicotine solution you need
Your formula (100/10)6 = 60 and is incorrect idk how you got 0.3 but the answer would be 0.6ml of 100mg/ml in 10ml = 6mg/ml. Here's what the formula I used looks like (10*6)/100
You figure out the total content of the nicotine in bottle you're making (6*x) then Divide by the strength of your nicotine stock to find how many mls you need of nic. You were close though
Thank you! I have no idea where I got .3 (this is why I use a calculator instead of in my head like I just did). I had an app that I liked with my recipes on it but my phone took a swim and it's not on iOS so I've been buying premade.
You're welcome. i wasn't trying to call you out, my intention was for you to double check your functions to make sure one isn't doing somethig undesirable.
Fun fact: I noticed when I stare at spreadsheets too long I'll start seeing cells on light colored objects. Damn Tetris effect
Hey guys!
I have two questions for you guys!
- Okay so I just mix for myself, my wife, and some friends and coworkers. I make 1l bottles at a time, and now I'm purchasing bigger amounts of flavorings (120ml+) and PG / VG. I'm running into issues getting them into the little 30ml bottles easily, and sometimes with mixing them accurately while pouring out of some of the less pour friendly bottles that the flavors come in.
I've been using the little 1-3ml dropper syringes sparingly because I had some lying around and it's been helpful in fixing the problem and I'm thinking about just buying them in bulk and using them. Am I overlooking a much easier way of getting juice from large 1liter+ containers into 30-100ml bottles?
- Anyone have any really good Cap Vanilla Custard (v1) based Vanilla Custard recipes to recommend? I tend to really like simpler recipe's, 2-3 ingredients work much better with my pallet. (Mustard Milk has been my ADV for over a year...)
Buying a funnel for decanting can be helpful but finding one with a small enough staff to help you fill the bottles is difficult. I personally use ketchup mustard set of empty bottles I got from Walmart and just squeeze the juice into the smaller containers.
And for the second part of your question I just released Angel cream version 2 look it up on ATF it is delicious.
There's a few flavors I need for it but I'm planning on putting in an order soon, so I'll definitely try it out. Thanks.
How big are your condiment bottles that you're using?
Also... I've had an all the flavors account for a while but hardly use it because I've never been able to figure out how to favorite a recipe. From your tags it looks like you've been around for a minute, do you know how? Also.. followed you. :p Thanks again.
So I'm not sure but I think you have to be a pro subscriber to favorite a recipe it is basically the same as following somebody you just click the little star next to the mix and copy buttons. If you don't have a prescription try promo code NCM for a free month.
Oh and the condiment bottles are standard size I will just make a very large batch like a liter shake and then pour it into the condiment bottles to squeeze into to 30 milliliter bottles. Kind of a pain in the butt, but easier than trying to free pour into those little freaking holes.
I ordered 30ml 100nic juice but the ejuice calculator doesn't take in the nicotine i'm trying to add. It only tells me the ml i should add. Am I doing wrong? I used the calculator that most people suggest here.
What calculator are you using? Personally, I just use e-liquid-recipes.com. In the settings I switch it to grams and can set the strength of the nicotine I'm using as well. It is the easiest thing and I've never had a problem with it.
It had gear or steam in the name.
http://www.steam-engine.org/juice.asp ?
Check Nicotine unit: mg/ml in the first section (and don't forget to set batch size to the volume you're mixing), enter Nicotine strength: 100 mg/ml in the second (and set PG/VG ratio of your nic base). Set the target nicotine strength and PG/VG ratio as you desire in the last section.
Not sure if this goes here but anyway, as I've said in the diyordie Facebook group I do not understand how saline solution can work, I mean the purpose of it.
I completely understand it's usefullness in cooking as it highlight most of the ingredients. But salt do not evaporate at the temperatures we use to vape. So If we put 5gr of salt in a liter of water (distilled) and heat it, the water will evaporate. At the end of the process you get back your 5 gr of salt. So is it a chemical reaction with the flavors while steeping ? Could someone enlighten me ?
In the past, people have used it as an alternative to PG (distilled water and salt, although distilled water is fine by itself). Some have claimed to use it as a flavor additive, but its more than likely just placebo.
The term "vaping" is a bit misleading as PG/VG doesn't actually turn into vapor, but an aerosol that is able to carry suspended particles that would be left behind by water vapor. That is also the danger of inhaling it, as the aerosol can carry nasty things into your lungs, from what I understand.
Ohhhh i didn't know that... it changes everything indeed, I'll do some research and I'll come back to you, thanks !
I want to get into DIY and im thinking of ordering my pg, vg and flavours from bullcity flavours. Has anyone ordered their pg and vg off them? Anything I should know before I order
I have never ordered PG or VG from them, but do order supplies and flavors. If you have a Prime account, Amazon is also a good place to get PG and VG.
I order my VG and PG from Bulk Apothecary. Super cheap and great quality product, not sure about shipping costs to Canada though. Use code "savings10" for 10% off your order.
Thanks but I already ordered from Diy-Ejuice! Got 2 250ml and a bunch of 10ml for like $60
I've just ordered from them, too. Zak is great and gives great customer service via email, at least. He's answered all my questions quickly, and I had a lot of them! They've got a great selection. Only problem I find is that they could use some descriptions for their flavours, for the newbie, that is. I guess that anyone who's been around the block knows the flavours they want. But he's got an extensive collection, that's for sure. And I hear the orders come quickly. Oh, and their mobile site sucks. No search function. Only ten flavours at a time to scroll through. Really difficult to deal with. But the desktop version is much better. Hope you enjoy your stuff!
~Magnus.
Is there website that I can buy TFA, CAP, and all those at one place? Or do I have to get them separately
There are tons of sites like that. Where do you live though?
Verified Vendors with a user review link at the end of each.
Hi, due to federal regulations I can no longer purchase the same e liquid that I've been using as my daily vape for the past 3 years (wild west tobacco 70/30 1/2 cool 14mg of nic). I have never made my own e liquid but came across this thread searching for an answer. Nevertheless I hope I'm in the right place for this post and very sorry if I'm not. Now to my question, I purchased a 15ml bottle of the same e liquid wild west tobacco but 50/50 pg and vg with 12mg of nic and added 3 drops of cool as per the vendor. The result was horrible, it clogged up my coil and the mix just didn't tast the same. They can not sell me the 70/30 and only 12mg of nic or increments of 3. After some research I bought a bottle of PG and VG and 100ml of nic. How can I make the base of my favorite eliquid with no nicotine into 70/30 and 14mg of nic? Thank you.
I've been trying to find a way to make concentrated Strength Flavors aka candy oil or lorans oils but I can't find a single tutorial. Just dyi how to make vape juice and sometimes how to make cannabis oil... but never found a tutorial to make candy oil. Hopefully you guys can help me
Yes,it's a premix e liquid not a concentrate. It is Wild West tobacco with a 50/50 pg/vg and no nicotine. Is it possible to to alter it to 70pg and 30vg mix and ad 14mg of nicotine? I do have a bottle of 100mg of pg nicotine and vg/pg bottles also that I got from liquid barn. Thank you.
Absolutely, but there's a caveat. Flavor.
If you want 70/30 juice you'll only use 60% of your original juice in that mix, thereby losing 40% of the flavor, which is substantial.
If you ignore the ratio and only add nicotine, you use 86% of the original juice, only losing 14% of the flavor, and end up with a 57/43 PG/VG blend.
For the sake of rounding out to an even 60/40 blend, to mix 100 ml of juice you'd use 80 ml of your original juice, 14 ml of nicotine and 6 ml of PG, at the expense of 20% of the flavor.
I'm not sure if any of this will work for you, but I guess there's only one way to find out. The one thing that would reduce the loss of flavor would be using a juice with nic already in it, thereby reducing the amount you'd need to dilute it.
Note that it takes time for flavors to blend with PG/VG. If you shake it up and vape it right away, you won't experience the full flavor. Let it sit and homogenize for a couple of days and it will be stronger.
Good luck and I hope this will work for you! If you reply directly to this post I can help you further, but there's a new weekly thread out now if you want the input of other people.